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ginakra
02-26-2009, 04:00 PM
Hi all, I've wanted to dive into cp, but I seem to be sensitive to the wood they encase pencils in. :( So I bought some Art Stix on ebay, hoping I could sharpen them and use them as cp's. (?) We'll see, lol. Anyway, I don't have them yet and was wondering how best to sharpen them. Do they fit in any type of sharpener? I was hoping not to have to use a knife.
Thanks,
Gina

objectivistartist
02-26-2009, 05:37 PM
Actually, using a knife is the best way for those... just cut away from you [on the table, not the lap] if ye afraid of getting cut, tho cutting toward you gives better blade control - use an X-acto knife or even one holding a razor blade, tho the handles on those are usually large and harder to hold for this purpose...

ocmd123
02-26-2009, 05:40 PM
Another option, Kohinoor makes a woodless pencil.

ginakra
02-26-2009, 06:26 PM
Thanks to you both, for your replies :)

Elaine, I have the Kohinoor pencils, but the color range is limited (24 colors, which is probably quite enough for the experienced), and the laydown is just not quite the same, at least to me. If they made more colors, like Prismacolor, especially lighter colors, I'd be so much happier with them. I can't seem to get a gentle enough touch and also to cover the paper when I want a lighter color. The light green is too neon. Of course, I barely know what I am doing, so that -could- be the problem! lol!

Robert, I'll use your cutting tips and try them if I must :) I was hoping there was a sharpener with a big enough hole/sharpener to accomodate them. Yes, I'm afraid of losing a thumb, but I also have some repetitive stress injuries that flare badly when I do that type of thing and I'd rather be drawing. Maybe I can somehow lure my husband into carving them for me ;) Thanks for the tips! :)

Gina

ocmd123
02-26-2009, 07:05 PM
I got to thinking outside the box a bit and went searching for carpenter pencil sharpeners. Now they are flat, not square, but this (http://www.getabeaver.com/) one looks to have a round opening. (Scroll down to the second sharpener.) I've emailed the company to find out how large the opening is. I'll let you know what the response is.

ManedWolf
02-26-2009, 07:15 PM
You might like to try the Cretacolor Aqua Monolith woodless watercolor pencils, available in 72 colors:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Products/censura.php?csid=89fad76de0da63baa9b0b6500941dc4c&cmd=details&itemid=672

or Caran d'Ache Neocolors:
http://www.carandache.com/m/index.lbl
(under the headings Colour > Children > Pastels).

Have you tried cotton gloves with wooden pencils?
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2009/151084-PAWPRINT.JPG
Heikki

pinkrybns
02-26-2009, 07:25 PM
Hi Gina,

Hmm, Art Stix are not very long.

Once you managed to sharpen them, however you do it, you'll eventually need to get a pencil extender in order to hold them.
Like this (It's also not square. I've never seen one with a square opening.)
This is one by Faber-Castell, but there are other brands out there, they all work the same way.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2009/22382-pencil_extender.jpg

You can also try a sandpaper block to sharpen the Art Stix further, once you shave them down a little with a knife or blade.
sandpaper block
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2009/22382-sandpaper_block.jpg
.

Judy

TessDB
02-26-2009, 07:54 PM
I've used artstix a fair amount and haven't needed to sharpen them (of course, I wasn't trying to do super-tight detail with them, either). With 4 crisp corners due to their shape, it's pretty easy to get a fine line down. And once the corner starts to soften, you just rotate. and then use the sand block like Judy suggests.

There's these pastel holders listed at Jerry's (and other art supply dealers) : http://www.jerrysartarama.com/discount-art-supplies/Pastels/Pastel-Accessories/Pastel-Holders.htm

The #10 is said to work with Nu-pastels (another Prisma/sanford product) and I'm fairly sure are the same size as the artstix.

Hope that helps!
Rosemary

pinkrybns
02-26-2009, 07:56 PM
why is there not a Jerry's in Holland?
:lol:

ginakra
02-26-2009, 08:00 PM
I got to thinking outside the box a bit and went searching for carpenter pencil sharpeners. Now they are flat, not square, but this (http://www.getabeaver.com/) one looks to have a round opening. (Scroll down to the second sharpener)

By golly, Elaine... that just might work!! :clap: Thank you so much for emailing them, do let me know if you think it might work. Thank you!

ocmd123
02-26-2009, 08:04 PM
Could you use a foam grip (http://www.thewritingpenstore.com/FoamPencilandPenGrip-5Pack.aspx) on a regular colored pencil so you wouldn't be touching the wood?

PaulaIA
02-26-2009, 08:04 PM
Hi Gina, I have a pencil sharpener that may be what you are looking for. It is made by General's and it is for flat pencils.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2009/125435-21426-1002-2-3ww-l.jpg

After reading your question I dug out my art stixs and tried to sharpen it with the flat point sharpener and it worked well. I think it cost around $5.00 and I got it at Hobby Lobby.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2009/125435-artstixs.jpg

The second pix is of the sharpened art stixs.

Paula

ocmd123
02-26-2009, 08:07 PM
By golly, Elaine... that just might work!! :clap: Thank you so much for emailing them, do let me know if you think it might work. Thank you!

I think Paula just answered the question! It would be for the same type of pencil.

ginakra
02-26-2009, 08:14 PM
Hi Heikki,

You might like to try the Cretacolor Aqua Monolith woodless watercolor pencils, available in 72 colors:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Products/censura.php?csid=89fad76de0da63baa9b0b6500941dc4c&cmd=details&itemid=672

Got 'em! LOL! I've found they are waaaay too hard. Colors are dull, however I think if I found the right paper they might be better lay down. I will probably end up combining these with the koh-i-nor to get sort of what I want if the art stix don't work out. I guess what I need are woodless prismas. :cry: I wonder why they don't make them?

or Caran d'Ache Neocolors:
http://www.carandache.com/m/index.lbl
(under the headings Colour > Children > Pastels).

Now these I'll need to check. These are more like a crayon though, right? Are they comparable to prismas?

Have you tried cotton gloves with wooden pencils?


It's actually not a skin problem (I wish it were), it's an upper respiratory/eye/ear reaction. Horrible! :( Thank you so much for your reply! I'll take a look at the neocolors.

ocmd123
02-26-2009, 08:18 PM
Hi Heikki,

Now these I'll need to check. These are more like a crayon though, right? Are they comparable to prismas?



Yes, they are more like a crayon, and no, they are not like Prismas. They are great with water, wonderful colors, but that is the only way I prefer to use them.

ginakra
02-26-2009, 08:22 PM
Gosh, I can't keep up with all the helpful replies! Lol! Paula, that looks PERFECT! Thanks so much! I would have never thought of carpenter pencil sharpeners! Thanks both of you!

Thanks for the tip about the extender as wall, I'll pick up one of those too. I found one at ASW that is an #8, that says it works with stix, so I'll double check and get the right size.

You all are so friendly and helpful. Thank you!!

ocmd123
02-26-2009, 08:25 PM
Give us a problem and we let loose with all of that creative problem solving that artists are so good at! :lol: :lol:

PaulaIA
02-26-2009, 08:29 PM
Gina, You are welcome. I am glad I could help:clap:
Paula

ocmd123
02-28-2009, 11:02 AM
Just to follow up, here is the response I received to my inquiry about this carpenter's pencil sharpener (http://www.getabeaver.com/).

Hi Elaine,

The opening on the top of the carpenter pencil sharpener is 5/8", or approx. 1.5 cm. There is a plastic disc that centers a carpenters pencil that can be removed if you need to use the full 5/8". People have used them for the chunky, oversized pencils, cosmetics, and even for pool cues. (?)

Hope that answers your question!

Tim

"J"
02-28-2009, 05:50 PM
Thanks for all the info. I ordered one of the carpenter ones. They take paypal so it was so easy to order.

ocmd123
02-28-2009, 06:14 PM
Glad it was helpful! It would be great if you and Gina stop back in here to let us know how it worked.

"J"
03-10-2009, 01:22 AM
I got the carpenter's sharpener. I put in it an oil pastel 3/8 inch diameter and it will sharpen that easily. The piece that is inserted for the square pencils doesn't appear to be able to pull out. But it worked with the round stick.

I also was able to put in and sharpen the larger colored pencils like Lyra skintones and the Koh-I-Noor large sized multi colored pencils.

It is a very heavy duty metal sharpener. About 2 inches long and the blade is almost that long. The screws on the blade are readily accessible for changing the blades. Don't know where you get the replacements as I didn't check the website.

Overall I think it would work for most any larger pencils or crayons.

ocmd123
03-10-2009, 07:29 AM
Thanks, Jeanne! If you have any artstix, could you stick one in and see how it goes?

Ittybit
03-11-2009, 10:51 AM
I went to a demo put on by Prismacolor a short while back and the representative recommended the small manual sharpener put out by prismacolor to sharpen the stix's. I personally have not tried it yet, but just wanted to pass along the info.