View Full Version : Oldies and goodies, 21 feb-6 mar, (Goya)

02-21-2009, 12:30 AM
:) Hi and welcome to the oldies and goodies project.

We look at a famous artist's work and make some study/copies. You can use any medium. You have 2 weeks to complete your copy before we move on to our next artist's work.

(You can post work after this date as the thread will remain open).

This time, the artist is GOYA.

02-21-2009, 12:30 AM
Francisco Goya (1746-1828), Spain.

Goya painted genre paintings, religious work, still life, and supernatural images. Some are very light and breezy (early works) and some are dark (so-called ‘black’ paintings of his later life).

Goya was a forerunner of modern art. His work inspired French artists such as: Daumier, Millet, Courbet, and Manet.

At the age of 14,Goya took art lessons from a local teacher who encouraged his pupils to study old masters works in engravings and make copies. A traditional teaching tool.

I visited an exhibition of Goya’s work a few years ago which is why I am interested in this artist.

Hers are some links to biographical information on Goya:

http://www.museodelprado.es/en/ingles/collection/pintura/pintura-espanola/goya-y-la-pintura-del-siglo-xviii/ (http://www.museodelprado.es/en/ingles/collection/pintura/pintura-espanola/goya-y-la-pintura-del-siglo-xviii/)

http://goya.unizar.es/InfoGoya/Work/Pintura.html (http://goya.unizar.es/InfoGoya/Work/Pintura.html)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Goya (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Goya)

You can view a selection of his paintings here:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Goya (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Goya)

02-21-2009, 12:35 AM

I've chosen this self portrait by Goya, done in later life, as the painting to study. Mainly because it has wonderful soft edges.

You can use this work, or choose any other work by Goya.

Looking forward to seeing the results.

Happy painting.:D

02-21-2009, 09:35 AM
Hi, June

Here is something I read this morning, that is sort of interesting, about a famous Goya painting. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123482699317795087.html

02-21-2009, 02:13 PM
Hi Trafford, that is an interesting article about 'colossus'. That painting seems in keeping with a lot of Goya's dark paintings to me. The debate continues...

02-22-2009, 07:43 AM
Hi - Nice overview of Goya, June. Thanks. I'll check out the links in the meantime. It feels good to be able to put a face with a name and all the paintings. Draws it all in closer.

Traffie - ya got me curiosity up......I'm gonna check out that link NOW:D

02-22-2009, 07:55 AM
I read all about the dispute, loved the language used and the little bit of bashing......... "Most devastating is the repudiation of these hollow new theories by the dean of " was amusing.......
I looking forward to copying this work in pencil, pen & ink and maybe some pastels - ambitious , eh.

02-25-2009, 03:13 PM
did this last night - I was tired....Goya looks tired too :)

02-26-2009, 12:06 AM
Hi azul, a good likeness. Do you think maybe his eyes should be smaller in relation to the face...it depends on your aim( realism vs expressionism)...very expressive as is, and he was championed as an expressionist by the twentieth century art world. His head is at an interesting angle in this portrait. I like your vigorous pencil marks.

(I am going to try and get to an attempt at this at the weekend. Hopefully!)

I am also looking forward to your versions in ink and pastels.:thumbsup:

02-26-2009, 10:02 PM
Thanks for the comments June....yeah, I know the proportions are way off, I hope to do a better study soon.

Looking forward to seeing what the weekend brings you.

02-27-2009, 10:05 AM
Hi, June

Here is something I read this morning, that is sort of interesting, about a famous Goya painting. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123482699317795087.html

Oh! MY! GOODNESS! That can't be true!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Well !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


"This leaves a flawed and inadequate argument based on the interpretation of stylistic evidence."

I'd have to agree!

02-27-2009, 10:15 AM
Azul, check his forehead height. I love the nose and mouth!

02-27-2009, 10:53 AM
I think the goya self portrait is going to be a bit of a challenge alright!

03-01-2009, 09:41 AM
Hi Nickel, yep the Goya's headtop kinda is small, I don't think flat tops were "in" back in his day.

YES - it's March!!!!

03-01-2009, 03:34 PM

Those down-tilted eyes and that expressive mouth are definitely his!


Great set of links...quite interesting to see how he potrayed himself over time, together with that later years more photographic-looking potrait by Vicente Lopez y Portana..

I'm another who's glad this thread will be left open for more submissions..:) !

03-02-2009, 09:28 AM

Here's a quickie study in oils of the Goya self portrait. Its about 10 by 12 ins on canvas, alkyd oils, mainly yellow ochre, alizarin and French ultramarine with some black and white.

He's looking a tad 'grumpy' I'm afraid. I may get around to another version later.:wave:

03-04-2009, 11:16 PM
Oh June, this is good, the nose, upper lip, mouth area is well done with just a few lines - poetic....infact that describes the whole portrait .......I like what you did with the light on the forhead too........I hope to get the ink one tommorrow, maybe tonight......:evil:

Mette Rörström
03-05-2009, 12:34 AM
June...:clap: :clap: :)

This is one I tryed,a drawing ,Goya. "Aun aprendo"( I am still learning)
His was drawn with black chalk...
I used pencil on drawing paper ( A4 ).


03-05-2009, 05:40 AM
June, the self portrait turned out very well......I have to try working with oils someday. You get a whole different feel and acrylics are so cold.

I think Goya probably was grumpy.

Mette, love your sketch of the old man. :clap:

03-05-2009, 06:03 AM
Nice one Mette - is that "after" one Goya did? can you post it too?

got this done last night

Mette Rörström
03-05-2009, 09:30 AM
Thank you!
Sorry I forgot to upload this...
here is the drawing Goya did...


03-05-2009, 11:19 AM
Hi Mette and azulparsnip. I love your drawings...both of them are very expressive. Are either of you going to go on and do colour versions?

Mette Rörström
03-05-2009, 11:50 AM
artbyjune...I think I will find another to do in color.....as the original was drawn in black chalk, it feels wrong to put color on it. :)

Mette Rörström
03-05-2009, 12:57 PM
trafford....thank you! :)

03-06-2009, 12:52 PM
OK Mette, looking forward to seeing your next 'Goya'.

Trafford, have you tried the interactive acrylics yet? They feel more like oils, not so hard and plasticky, and blending is easier with them. Not that I am criticising ordinary acrylics as I like to use them too!

I am enjoying learning to use oil paints.

Forgot to say 'thank you' for the nice comments on my 'Goya' copy from azul, trafford, mette...... :thumbsup:

03-06-2009, 06:45 PM
thanks June but I won't be able to do a color copy like I'd wanted - time got away with me......but drawing him I began to see a tenderness I wish I'd been able to come across with in my drawing, he seems like such a perceptive, tender soul......has the same sad look Rembrant had in later years........this has been a most productive challenge, Thanks June for hosting.

03-06-2009, 11:07 PM
Hi azul, yes... I think it would be good to study some of the master artists in greater detail, over a longer time period (perhaps later). But the brief 2 weeks study of this project and on to the next artist ....is setting us a good challenge, and pace, and teaching lots about artists and art history.

03-07-2009, 06:38 AM
Here is my segment from the Goya painting "Las Viejos" (Time).


Tried photo and scanning, but still couldn't get color right :(

and the original......


Really liked doing Goya.

Mette Rörström
03-09-2009, 04:44 AM
Here is my version of Goyas painting....
Oil on canvas..24 x 30 cm.


and here is the original....


03-09-2009, 05:34 AM
Fantastic work, Mette and Trafford. I had not seen these 2 Goya paintings before. You both did them so well.

I love the facial expression, especially the teeth, on your lady Trafford.

I love your soft edges in the self portrait, Mette.

Goya is certainly an inspiring artist. Maybe we could do him in depth later.

Mette Rörström
03-09-2009, 05:55 AM
artbyjune...thank you! :)