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jenny5309
03-29-2000, 01:30 PM
Has anyone successfully combined encaustics with acrylic? Any help would be appreciated....thanks!

henrik
03-29-2000, 06:06 PM
Pls. excuse my ignorance... what is "encaustics"?

jenny5309
03-29-2000, 06:09 PM
Encaustics are paints which use wax as a binder.

henrik
03-30-2000, 03:38 AM
Thanks jenny!

CarlyHardy
04-01-2000, 02:38 PM
I have not used the two together, but in a book about collage...encaustics were used in small areas with acrylics over them to create interesting textured effects.
I suppose it is the principle of water based paints over the waxy surface of the encaustics.
carly

Drew Davis
04-01-2000, 09:21 PM
You can get acrylic to stick to encaustic? Wax is so much like oil.

vita brevis
04-04-2000, 08:49 AM
You may be asking for trouble. Encaustic is wax based, the solvent/thinner is turps or mineral spirits. Acrylics are water based.
A basic technique for encaustic painting is to apply it hot and fuse it.Aside from adhesion problems, the fumes could make you sick,in my own humble opinion.

msue
04-06-2000, 12:29 AM
I just watched a demo Sunday that was represented to the encaustic. However instead of using commerical encaustic paints, which the demonstrater didn't like, she used melted Crayola brand crayons. She did a base coat with beeswax then used melted crayons for the color. Learned I did encaustic painting with a group of 4 and 5 year olds and didn't know it. Surely there is more to real encaustic painting.

kayemme
04-06-2000, 04:02 AM
there is more to it than that.. but i suppose it depends what you want to do with it?

i saw a beautiful show of encaustic sculpture/painting things (kinda hard to explain, but were like boxes with many layers of encaustic pigments)

anyway, the artist would write something in one layer of encaustics and then layer more and more semi-transparent wax w/pigment over the tops so the images of the words were WAY down in these box things..

was very cool.. i ordered a catalogue from enkausticos (i can't remember the web site name, but you can find it w/a simple search) because i really want to start working with them, though i understand it would be best to have a full studio to ensure proper ventilation.

so i am going to invest in my product, but i won't really be able to use them for a while

the stuff looks kinda 'xpensive but you can do just about anything with it.



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jenny5309
04-06-2000, 01:01 PM
Hi everyone!

Thanks for sharing your expereinces! I've been doing a bit of investigation since I sent that question...and here's what I've found.

First of all, a GREAT source of information is Karen Jacobs, (www.karenjacobs.com) She has a fabulous section of her site on encaustics and links to incredible resources. www.rfpaints.com (http://www.rfpaints.com) is one of the best. Expensive yes, but you can also make your own encaustics....85% beeswax with 15% damar resin plus pigment will give a strong, durable paint.

And as to my own question...I contacted an artist whose work I admire very much, Jaq Chartier (www.drizzle.com/~eyespy/JC/index.html) She uses a combination of acrylic and wax, generally wax OVER acrylic, not the other way around. I think a technique like this will take a lot of experimentation, as Jaq's paintings are very unique.

I know all of this information really helped me, hope it helps others! I really do encourage nayone interested in encaustics to check out these two artists. Their work is absolutely beautiful and inspiring.

mudmunk
05-26-2000, 01:37 PM
I just got Enkaustikos' contemporary set and have been having a blast learning to use this medium. I did one small test area were I laid an encaustic layer on top of an acrylic layer and liked the results I got. I would enjoy chatting with other encaustic artists. My AIM and MS Messenger (use the same nic for both) is mudmunk. My ICQ #24753847

Shriner
07-11-2000, 07:24 PM
Hey! I just posted a question about encaustics under "alternative mediums" or something like that. Is anyone still visiting this thread? Here are a few things I have bookmarked as I have looked around:
http://www.fineartstore.com/enkaustikos/ http://www.encaustic.com/www.encaustic.com.html http://www.rfpaints.com/ http://bigjohn.bmi.net/anhufman/ http://www.sfo.com/cgi-sinopia/bbs_forum.cgi?forum=encaustic

This last one is a forum which might help... I'd like to see this dicussion get going again - or maybe under the other post...

thanks!

donjusko
07-14-2000, 06:29 AM
Hi,
The original question was can you mix acrylic and encaustic wax.
Well, yes and yes.
Here's a medium I found some writing on from literally "The Dark Ages, 1250". It was called "Cera Cola". What they did was emulsify the bees wax with ammonia, a double Boiler is needed, keep stirring! What you will get is a water soluble wax soap to add pigment into. You could add acrylic paint or dry pigments. Either way, when it dries the gas ammonia is gone and the finished painting is insoluble in water. Back then in Greece wax was a big paint, whether it was hardend in boiling water and applied hot, mixed with turpentine and mastic or as an emulsafied soap.
There is more information on my site, search the keyword "wax"
http://www.mauigateway.com/~donjusko/final.htm
Don