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11-14-2008, 01:05 PM
I have to expand from portraits to other motives. This is a picture I like and I hope I'll be able to paint it. I started with an underpainting of the man and gave some structure to the background. The painting size is 40 x 50 cm. The last time I tried to paint walls didn't work well. Every idea is welcome.
Here is my start:
11-14-2008, 04:46 PM
This is visually enticing gaensanger! I also like the color palette, extraordinary! I have questions, but I am going to wait and see what you reveal. So far the unvarnished truth of the matters presented shine through beautifully. Everything is convincingly used and lived in, including the man himself.
11-14-2008, 08:18 PM
I know this is not a helpful comment but for me at present the man and his chair are too good for the wall and the ground. I shall sit on my own chair and wait tho .... (I now do four dot cos Corby owns the three dot)
11-15-2008, 08:19 AM
this is good. i hope you dont mind me saying, for the back ground i would have put cling film on while the paint is wet and take it off when it is dry it would create the old wood effect i hope this helps irene ann
11-15-2008, 08:50 AM
Corby, thank you for watching! You know, this is a new area for me, lets see ...
Greensyster, I'm with you and feel the same. I hope I don't have this feeling any more, when I give the first glance to the wall and the door.
Irene, I didn't know the way with the cling film, but I'm learning all the time!
11-16-2008, 08:10 AM
I hate this stage! It allways looks destoried to me, I hope it isn't. I have to kill the wall with some more layers, this colour is too strait an intensive. Pictures like this always have the chance to dissappear in a edge of my house!
11-16-2008, 10:35 AM
I'm beginning to get a bit like this myself. I'm liking the colours this far.
11-22-2008, 12:00 PM
Sorry guy's, there was a little time inbetween. But I'm working in the "portraits swap event 2008" on the portraits forum.
But I gave the old guy the first colours. Now I know how to paint jeans! What I don't like, is the colour of the walls in the background. I have to give them more light. I'll do the same to the door. We'll see!
11-23-2008, 03:02 AM
Hi gaensanger (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/member.php?u=94183) !
It seems slightly broken up as to the background and the overall setting. With the introduction of color the harmony has gone. Could this simply be a matter of value? perhaps when the floor and the portions of wall are related one to the other in the completed painting the unity will have again shown itself. It does not seem so much a matter of more light or more dark over all it seems that there might be a graded flow of light on the surfaces that will display the unseen light source and thus tie the objects together.
11-23-2008, 10:53 AM
Watching. And like it.
11-23-2008, 12:49 PM
Dana, Corby, thank you for watching! You are right with the harmony. Starting with colours it was gone. That's the point I often have, starting with the colour.
I have to get the values to the right way. Today I gave some lighter and more broken colours to the walls and the door. It's now OK for me, some thin glances and I've got it.
Now I see to do some work on the person to get him in the balance to the rest. Also the chair needs some colour now (lighter). I hope I will get them together ...
Here is my standing after today.
brilliance as usual, your attention to detail is incredible and i love watching your progressions
have to ask tho ... what is the orange thing on his chair?
11-23-2008, 10:40 PM
Gaensanger, if you were doing a ladies bust, would you include the shoulder with upper gown or stop at the shoulders and fade out? One portrait painter told me that for heaven sake, quit worrying about the technicalities and just start painting, until I find my own style in portrait painting. I have done so with fair success. My third try turned out quite well but I noted another well done bust of a woman, done in pastels, just went to the shoulders and then faded out. Now I am wondering if that is preferable to including the upper portion of an evening gown and then tying it in with the background colors. Is their a preference or is it up to the artist.
By the way, I really enjoyed your WIP on the man seated in a chair. Since I am a senior I interpreted the "orange thing on the seat" as a cushion between him and that not so comfortable straight back chair. Very nice painting.
11-24-2008, 12:38 AM
Oh yes - well worth dropping in to see what advances you have made - and made them you have - I shall settle back quietly to see how you finish this off (but the redish cushion has to go! :) )
11-25-2008, 11:23 AM
La, thank you for watching and for all the honey!
Aires, I think it is your decision which way you want to go. I looked to my collection of pictures and I found both. It's a different effect and a different painting. Choose!
greensyster, when you say you like it, it is very special to me. Your paintings are beautilul!
11-25-2008, 02:11 PM
I've pulled up a chair watching how you have been working the colours here rather than commenting. You have a good balance of colour but I am wondering if the shirt should dominate more. I see you haven't got to that yet, so I'll wait and see.
11-25-2008, 07:24 PM
Very beautiful painting. It reminds me of my Papa.
Not sure what was on the chair, I had to look again. It looks like an orange cushion with a tassle at the end- it will be nice if the white tassle at the end fall/drop against the chair loosley. It looks like his lower body(bottom) is not right with the cushion. It divide his frail body more.
maybe put tWo tassles on the cushion. I had to second guess what was the orange.
No worries. He reminds me of my Dad. Sweet man.
Mr. gaensanger You always have nice paintings!
Not sure if it was you or someone else did a painting of Obama 2 years ago.
I would love to see it or can someone direct me who did it.
I tried to search - nuttin.
11-29-2008, 09:04 AM
I worked on the compexity of the colours. The wall is more dirty now. The idea was bringing the colours together. I am not sure if I did it in the right way.
What I still have, is a problem with the face. It looks like a mask. Do you have some advice for me?
Here is the painting:
11-29-2008, 09:24 PM
I like this painting a lot, but there is samething to do with this piece. Crop it, yep a know it looks russian camera stuff but a like the intensive colors! I think also there is work one his top arm.
Hi Alfred, the painting is coming along nicely. You have a nice eye for excellent compositions! I think the problem with his face may be that is too big in proportion to his body, which should be abt 7 to 8 heads tall.
11-30-2008, 01:50 AM
Maybe a hat? :) I think its his hair actually that give the mask like effect not the actual face.
I agree with KTusa about the arm.
Love what you have done with the walls and pavement.
12-02-2008, 11:31 PM
Very Hopperesque - what a sense of loneliness. I wonder if his facial problem is a lack of depth - I'm always surprised by how deep a head is in profile. (deep - wide - not sure how to say it) does that make sense? I like it uncropped. Little worried about the perspective on the open door - the lines look like they are parallel and they shouldn't be if the door is leading away from us. I really like the feel of this piece.
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