thought for the day

[Rod]

Nice words,Nice thought, keep them coming,Rod http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/cool.gif

[kemshmi]

If one is truly good
They surely never would
Act as if they're better

Goodness being blest
is just ingenuous
For being with is best
(RJW)

[kemshmi]

Earth wakes slowly at dawn,
Then blossoms to brightest morn,
Resplendent with song,
Good cheer and glowing hopeful promise

[Gisela]

Nice Kemshmi,
I'll have to make this a daily ritual to sooth my soul.
Thanks
Gisela

[kemshmi]

The one lesson that cannot be taught by another, is experience..

Enjoy
kemshmi

[Rod]

So get involved , or experience will never be gained.
Rod.

[kemshmi]

One need never feel foolish when being sincere..

Have a Beautiful Day http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif
kemshmi

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[Gisela]

Keep 'em coming!!
Gisela

[kemshmi]

Pleasant manners succeed even with irritible people http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
{I~Ching}

[Gisela]

Hmmmmm...There are some people that I am extra pleasant with...just because I know that it will iritate them...<grin>
Gisela

[kemshmi]

Ultimately for an artist to find his/her creative nitch..is a definite needed goal to be sought for..How an artist goes about this can be both enigmatic and metaphysical. It is understood that creative~self~expression itself helps "the being be defined" that is, one learns about themself through the creative process. For an artist to know his/her creative nitch they must know about themselves, therefore by experimenting and attempting various methods, motifs and mediums, fully ingageing in the artistic creative process one can explore the various avenues that will lead to self understanding and growth. Through the process of elimination certain experiments and avenues can omited similarily some will be accepted as the artist begins to identify with his/her own work.
Without seeming narcissistic..I like to display my new work where I can see it and I go over what I have done..what worked well, what didn't..somtimes just looking enjoying the piece.

(excuse me if I have a slight case of type~o blood)

kemshmi

[kemshmi]

Wouldn't it be great if the world was so good, nobody wanted to change it..
http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
kemshmi

[Gisela]

Kem,
You are priceless, really!
Gisela

[kemshmi]

All one needs in a moment of weakness is a second of strength

thanks Rod and Gisela http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

kemshmi

[llis]

Kem: I agree with Gisela and Rod...you are priceless. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

[kemshmi]

"There is nothing more difficult for a truly creative painter than to paint a rose, because before he can do that, he has to first forget about all of the roses that were ever painted."

- Henri Matisse

{I saw this on wetcanvas..)
aaARrrggggg..I have to agree!!!
kemshmi

[Bruce Rohrlach]

Whether you think you can or think you can't, you are right
-- Henry Ford

[kemshmi]

cogito ergo sum/I think therefore I am..Rene DeCartes..DeCartes was a French philosopher, and felt that the only thing that he could prove as definite was that he was a conscious being..personally I have come to believe: sum ergo amo/I am, therefore I seek love (to love is to seek love)

I also paint,
kemshmi

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[sandyartist]

Loved this! "I paint, therefore I am"
Anonymous, maybe me?

[kemshmi]

heres a good one from DiVinci:

"Mona, sit down!!"

http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif kemshmi

[llis]

ROFL http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

Your best one yet Kem!

[Rod]

Very Masterful, he must have a whip too http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Gisela]

Rod...what is it with you and that whip...? http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/wink.gif Next thing you know, you'll be running around the chat room wearing black leather.
Gisela

[Bruce Rohrlach]

Gis : re-the whips - seeing as we have Pierre's Pad, Bruin's Classroom and your Bar, I think Scott should create Rod's Dungeon ? http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/wink.gif

Here's a less philosophical but more practical quote by Nicholas Chamfort : "Swallow a toad in the morning and you will encounter nothing more disgusting the rest of the day" ...
               


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[kemshmi]

The true work of art is but a shadow of the divine perfection.

Michael Angelo

[seaking]

To do is to be...Aristotle
To be is to do...Plato
shoo be do be do.Sinatra ;-)

And a very good day to all! Adelphia


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[seaking]

Originally posted by kemshmi:
The true work of art is but a shadow of the divine perfection.

Michael Angelo

Kemshi, who is Michael Angelo?
could you mean Michelangelo Buonarrati?
check out
artchive.com. It's a very informative art history site. Adelphia

[kemshmi]

Michael Angelo..yeah, thats dis guy lives down in the Bronx..he gotta a sister Angela too

Aldolphio, actually, thanks for the correction, I'm sure I knew that but was just kinda dreamy when I posted http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

another triva..Rembrandt..now without looking it up, was this his first middle or last name?

and to continue with the name, what name did Vincent Van Gogh use to sign his paintings (again no looking it up)

El Greco the Spanish painter who worked with Goya had a monica so long that he would have had to have been a muralist rather than a mannerist just to sign his paintings..
know what it was??

one more, who is kemshi?

[Bruce Rohrlach]

Every artist dips his brush in his own soul, and paints his own nature into his pictures
-------- Henry Ward Beecher

[Mich451]

"An artist must be educated to the ways of this world - and to ways not of this world - and learn to hear with his eyes and see with his ears, and above all, remember to feel with his heart. What is painted will then be merely an extension of that process."
Michelflyn (Mich451)

[CarlyHardy]

Rembrandt van Rijn...don't remember the middle name...sort of like Herman..maybe.
chc

[Phyllis Rennie]

Kem.,, Reminds me of the time I made a statement about Michaelangelo at the dinner table and one of my kids asked, "Michael Who?". Phyl

[kemshmi]

Originally posted by kemshmi:
Michael Angelo..yeah, thats dis guy lives down in the Bronx..he gotta a sister Angela too

Aldolphio, actually, thanks for the correction, I'm sure I knew that but was just kinda dreamy when I posted http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

another triva..Rembrandt..now without looking it up, was this his first middle or last name?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rembrandt Van Rijn

and to continue with the name, what name did Vincent Van Gogh use to sign his paintings (again no looking it up)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>he signed them: Vincent

El Greco the Spanish painter who worked with Goya had a monica so long that he would have had to have been a muralist rather than a mannerist just to sign his paintings..
know what it was??
>>>>>>>>>>
Domenikos Theotokopoulos

one more, who is kemshi?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>kemshmi http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/cool.gif

(((((I had to look the name up, except my own, I knew how to spell that one))))))

[kemshmi]

what does it mean if someone says "your special"
first, the person is complimenting, by acknowledging you... http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

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A childs dreamworld is a magic (special) place, treat it with respect, nurture it with love, and if you believe, learn from its innocence, insightfulness and its unquestioning faith (RJW)

kemshmi

[kemshmi]

ok guys..you know WHY you should walk a mile in someone elses shoes before you insult them??

kemshmi http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/cool.gif

[Rod]

Theres always a reason for a persons action, always check the reason before condemning the action,
Rod.
Try to always understand.

[seaking]

"Be kind to you web footed friends for a duck may be somebodies mother."

or??? that person could be really well connected....oops!


or??? you really need to know the person before an insult can be effective, if that was the intent in the first place.


or??? could paranoia be merely a hightened sense of awareness, based on experience?

[bruin70]

because if his feet are smelly,,,it might be the shoes......

i think el greco's monica was about 13.5 inches

van gogh signed his name "wishing i were degas"


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[CarlyHardy]

If someone is willing to give you their shoes while they walk barefoot over harsh ground..probably you should forget about insulting them.
carly

[kemshmi]

you guys were right on the punchline..cuz that way you'll be a mile away and you'll have a new pair of shoes http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

(except Rod who was just being sweet and thoughtful http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/wink.gif )

[kemshmi]

what is it that everyone seeks, cant be touched, and looks different to anyone who finds it?

kemshmi
(hint, this is a "serious" one) http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Keelie]

ALMOST too serious for me!

How about his one? (to digress)
"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."

Author unknown (by me, anyhow!)

[Rod]

Sharing, guess that would be a kind of love.


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[Rod]

But there again, perhaps I'm just being sweet and thoughtful again.
Thought artists were like that?

[Mich451]

Reflection?

[henrik]

Try reading the first sentence without reading the other...

I eee oai o ooa a e ooi eee o oe.

Ths sntnc cntns n vwls nd th prcdng sntnc n cnsnnts.

Compare to how dark values/shadows in a painting define form and meaning...

[CarlyHardy]

He who laughs last, thinks slowest.
carly

[kemshmi]

Yes, is happiness..to be happy

some of the other diversions were pretty funny though *grin*...

Rod..some artists I have met were..well..not so sweet and thoughtful as you are!! (most of them are paranoid schitzophrenics, with dilusional tendencies and prone to tempermental violent fits as well as hypersensitivity..just to mention a few of the obvious charictaristics) http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

kemshmi

[kemshmi]

HEY!!..Carly!!..what about..umm, umm, uh..oh I forgot..darn

http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/frown.gif

[oleCC]

contentment, which could include love, happiness and success (a relative term)

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[bruin70]

happiness.....you can be in love and still not be happy

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[sasha]

God grant me the Senility to forget the people I never liked anyway,
the good fortune to run into the ones that I do, and the eyesight to
tell the difference.

[sasha]

God grant me the Senility to forget the people I never liked anyway,
the good fortune to run into the ones that I do, and the eyesight to
tell the difference.

[dan]

Kem what was it you were seeking when you began reading philosophy? Also what prompted this search?

[Mellryn]

"Just as a prophet is not honored in his own town, so is a great artist seldom appreciated and valued in their time."

Just a thought posted on my site by a good friend of mine -- Hope he's wrong! :eek"

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My site and my mail -

Feminine Desert (http://artistnation.com/members/lofts/leivan)
michelle_leivan@hotmail.com

[kemshmi]

hi traveller..someone had just mentioned Robert Henri in the chat here..do you hve the book..The Art of Spirit, written by him?
was the question of the study of life vs/ the study of technique directed to me??


Dan..philosopy is sort of an aside..the quest for knowledge for me was first knowledge for the sake of knowledge, and then became more focused on trying to understand personal (mystical) experiences that I had no way to define..so the main things I had in mind were, What is Truth?, What is the meaning of Life?, things of that nature, not easy questions..I read several hundred books loosly catigorized as "occult sciences" and more directly, religious belief systems from around the world and throughout history, including "mythology" from various cultures....and I finally came to a place in where the books could take me no further in the study of self, the answers are found within, I had gleaned knowledge from the masters writings, and was then on my own..so I began meditation..in search of Truth and True Self..

Sooooooooo
thought for the day..
Begin with what is personally true for you and you may come to see what is Universally true..

kemshmi

[traveller]

Yes, I have his book and about 4 others about him. In my opinion, he was one of the greatest teachers. The number of his students to become great artists is amazing. George Bellows, Edward Hopper, John Sloan and countless others.

The comment was not at all directed toward you. I just think that in our quest for expression, we tent to lose sight of how to get there, and why. Today, and maybe always, artists are given the idea that great art comes from someone's skill. Skill is important, but it's not the reason we strive for it. That would be like saying that english professors make the best poets. What you have to say is always more important than how you say it.

Traveller

[Phyllis Rennie]

"We judge ourselves by our intentions and others by their actions."

[Phyllis Rennie]

"We judge ourselves by our intentions and others by their actions."

[Phyllis Rennie]

"We judge ourselves by our intentions and others by their actions."

[kemshmi]

Phyllis..who is that quote from??..along with my search came a need to look at my own behaviors, actions, patterns etc, and as I discover(ed) areas that were not in the best light to work on changing those things in myself..a lot of intrspection..and then action as necessary..

kemshmi

[traveller]

"We, as artists, aren't concerned with getting before the world as persons who have said one good thing, but as persons who are worth hearing again and again, expressing new thoughts each time. Develop wit, not technique - a mind full of various thoughts about various things - wit."

"Poor Kenyon Cox! He had to take the place of Bouguereau, you know. He is industrious but he has no wit, no will. He could draw wonderfully if he had anything to draw. Bouguereau could have done masterpieces, but he did sugar and plums. Bouguereau is popular with the weak; a man like Manet who comes with something strong, people say, "Out with this blasphemer!" Are you studying life or are you studying technique? Which interests you most?

Robert Henri
1865-1929

Just some thoughts.
traveller

[kemshmi]

maybe the quote is meant to make one look at thier way of being with others..

kemshmi

[traveller]

The man who has great emotions might burst into tears-but that is as far as he will get if he has no practical side. The artist must have the emotional side first, the primal cause of his being an artist, but he must also have an excellent mind, which he must command and use as a tool for the expression of his emotions.
The idea, which is the primal thing for a picture, is all in the air; the expression on the canvas is a case of absolute science as it deals with materials. A great artist is both a great imaginer and a great employer of practical science. First there must be the man, then the technique.

Robert Henri

traveller

[cagathoc]

"...this is an occupation known as painting, which calls for imagination, and skill of hand, in order to discover things not seen, hiding themselves under the shadow of natural objects, and ti fix them with the hand, presenting to plain sight what does not actually exist."

Leonardo de Vinci

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Cindy Agathocleous

"What if imagination and art are not, as many of us might think, the frosting on life, but the fountainhead of human experience?" - Rollo May from The Courage to Create

[cagathoc]

"When I started to paint, I felt transported into a kind of paradise.... In everyday life, I was usually bored and vexed by the things that people were always telling me I must do. Starting to paint, I felt gloriously free, quiet, and alone."

Matisse

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Cindy Agathocleous

"What if imagination and art are not, as many of us might think, the frosting on life, but the fountainhead of human experience?" - Rollo May from The Courage to Create

[sasha]

"A little bit of all the people in the village rubbed off on old Parker--until he wasn't Parker anymore, he was just another part of the village."

movie Old Sourdough

[Phyllis Rennie]

Kem, I don't know who first said it and I didn't mean to say it 3 times. Technologically challanged, I am.

I find myself thinking about it a lot though. It reminds me that other people have a different point of view than I do and theirs is often just as valid as mine. And that a whole pile of good intentions doesn't mean anything if I don't act on them.

[kemshmi]

thanks Sandi, Phyllis, traveller..and everyone..guess I miss~placed a few days http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

why clean old paint off of your easel?? (just a thought) http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/wink.gif

Kemshmi

[kemshmi]

thanks Sandi, Phyllis, traveller..and everyone..guess I miss~placed a few days http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

why clean old paint off of your easel?? (just a thought) http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/wink.gif

Kemshmi

[Keith Halonen]

Thought for the day from an unexpected source...

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"It is doubtful whether there is such a thing as impulsive or natural tolerance. Tolerance requires an effort of thought and self-control. Acts of kindness, too, are rarely without deliberation and thoughtfulness. Thus, it seems that some artificiality, some posing and pretense, is inseparable from any act or attitude which involves a limitation of our appetites and selfishness. We ought to beware of people who do not think it necessary to pretend that they are good and decent. Lack of hypocrisy in such things hints at a capacity for a more depraved ruthlessness. Pretense is often an indispensable step in the attainment of genuineness. It is a form into which genuine inclinations flow and solidify."
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Bruce Lee
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Tao of Jeet Kune Do
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Ohara Publications 1975

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Keith (http://www.sonic.net/finearts/index.html)

[cagathoc]

Fifteen childhood characteristics that encourage creativity and innovation and that frequently get lost in adults:


1. Seek out things that are fun to do
2. Jump from one interest to another
3. Curious, eager to try new things
4. Smile and laugh a lot
5. Experience and express emotions freely
6. Creative and innovative
7. Physically active
8. Constantly growing mentally and physically
9. Risk often - are not afraid to keep trying something that they aren't initially good at
and aren't afraid to fail
10. Rest when their body tells them to
11. Learn enthusiastically
12. Dream and imagine
13. Believe in the impossible
14. Generally don't worry about things
15. Passionate


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Cindy Agathocleous

"What if imagination and art are not, as many of us might think, the frosting on life, but the fountainhead of human experience?" - Rollo May from The Courage to Create