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Rusla
09-01-2008, 02:24 PM
Hi All,

Sorry I am a little late with these pictures but I had to vendor two Highland Games this weekend and so much to get ready for these shows.

So for the newbies you can do these pictures any way you see fit change them or whatever, just have fun.

So here are two of my many pictures, one is of my baby Blue Jay who I was two feet from when I took the picture. She still returns to my house to eat and I call her Sapphire.

The second picture is taken from one of my most favorite places in the world, Ireland. This is a picture of Slieve League on the North West Irish Coast.

Have fun with these pictures.

Randi
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Sep-2008/127469-bluejay9.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Sep-2008/127469-Slieve_League.jpg

Scarefishcrow
09-01-2008, 02:39 PM
Thanks, Randi-Lee, for hosting this month. I have to take some of the blame off you since she you didn't tell everyone I meant to give you a midmonth reminder and forgot!!!:o

So, all's well that ends well. We have the challenge up and the pictures should provide a real challenge.

I have to ask you Randi, what do you mean by "vendoring some Highland Games". Probably a dumb question.


Thanks again for hosting and I don't know which to choose yet. The little jay is awfully cute, but I love the colors of the Ireland landscape. Is Slieve League the name of a small inlet? What is a League? Sorry for all the questions.

Bill

Rusla
09-01-2008, 03:10 PM
Hi Bill,

No problems on the questions.

Slieve League is the name of the inlet. A lot of Irish names have no meanings at all like "Burren" The Burren is an Irish word that represents an area on the West side of Ireland totally fantastic place as all of Ireland is. If I do more of these challenges you are bound to see many of my Ireland pictures and other places. An example of Irish names is Ballycastle meaning Castle town and Kilmacow which means Hill of the Cow or Cows Hill. it takes a lot of asking to find out what some of the names mean. League represents the distance of the inlet,that you see in the picture. I believe. It is a very small place about at 1.5 hour drive from Donegal on winding narrow roads to get there. There is approximately 10 homes there and a very small home run convienence store and then you have to get to a bigger town like Donegal or somewhere else for hotels or anything else or major shopping and restaurants. This picture was taken last October 3rd at about 5pm.

As for Vendoring Highland Games. I also work in leather, tooling and painting etc. So to work the Highland Games as a vendor which is selling things you have to have goods mostly representative to the Celts or Celtic which also includes: Irish, Scottish, Norse, Viking, French (Hugenots were Celts) and a few others. As I like Celtic/Norse Designs and I am Norse in heritage it works for me. I am hoping to also take some of my art next year pictures, painting and photographs of Ireland and Scotland to sell.

The Highland games involving: Highland and Celtic dancing, Pipe band and individual drumming and piping competitions, sheep dog competitions and demonstrations, hammer throwing, caber tossing (a big pole that looks like half a tree where they run and throw it, pretty tough to do in the snow.) I hear the caber weighs more than 70lbs, very burly men do this one. They often have renactment groups like the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) there and Viking, reneactment groups.

Randi-Lee

Scarefishcrow
09-01-2008, 03:58 PM
Hi Bill,

No problems on the questions.

Slieve League is the name of the inlet. A lot of Irish names have no meanings at all like "Burren" The Burren is an Irish word that represents an area on the West side of Ireland totally fantastic place as all of Ireland is. If I do more of these challenges you are bound to see many of my Ireland pictures and other places. An example of Irish names is Ballycastle meaning Castle town and Kilmacow which means Hill of the Cow or Cows Hill. it takes a lot of asking to find out what some of the names mean. League represents the distance of the inlet,that you see in the picture. I believe. It is a very small place about at 1.5 hour drive from Donegal on winding narrow roads to get there. There is approximately 10 homes there and a very small home run convienence store and then you have to get to a bigger town like Donegal or somewhere else for hotels or anything else or major shopping and restaurants. This picture was taken last October 3rd at about 5pm.

As for Vendoring Highland Games. I also work in leather, tooling and painting etc. So to work the Highland Games as a vendor which is selling things you have to have goods mostly representative to the Celts or Celtic which also includes: Irish, Scottish, Norse, Viking, French (Hugenots were Celts) and a few others. As I like Celtic/Norse Designs and I am Norse in heritage it works for me. I am hoping to also take some of my art next year pictures, painting and photographs of Ireland and Scotland to sell.

The Highland games involving: Highland and Celtic dancing, Pipe band and individual drumming and piping competitions, sheep dog competitions and demonstrations, hammer throwing, caber tossing (a big pole that looks like half a tree where they run and throw it, pretty tough to do in the snow.) I hear the caber weighs more than 70lbs, very burly men do this one. They often have renactment groups like the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) there and Viking, reneactment groups.

Randi-Lee

Now this all makes sense, and after hearing your explanation it is sort of aa "Duh...." moment, because I should have been able to reason out what you meant. These sound similar to an Irish, Celtic, Scotts, etc. version of the more English/Western European festivals that i have attended here in the midwest called Rennesaince Festivals. In fact, my niece, for a time, worked these selling small handmade brooms with the twisted knarled handles as similar festivals. There is a large one that takes place in September near Minneapolis which my wife likes to go to. I went once and have tons of pics of things like firewalkers, firebreathers, minsstrals, etc. since everyone is in character. I bought a heavy wool, bergundy colored traveling cloak with hood that I love to wear (used to get strange looks at school) but it is so much more convenient than throwing on jackets to go between buildings and is quite warm.

I knew a League was a distance measure and while she didn't recognize the name, when I showed that pic to my wife, who went to Ireland on a choral tour a couple of years ago (I opted not to go and sort of regret it now) she said she had been there.

I've always been interested in Western Europe and Russia, and have studied GB intensesly, but never read much on Ireland and I really need to do that. Sounds like some of the British names, The Firth of Forth, etc. My wife told me how beautiful Ireland was and I regret not going now. But now I know.

I look forward to them getting the RIL uploader fixed so I can upload some image collecctions of GB, Russia, Mexico and various places in the continental US that I have thousands of. Be glad to send you some of the Renssaince festival if you are interested.

BILL

Donn
09-01-2008, 03:59 PM
Looks interesting, Randi-Lee. I may try these in another media.

As a past member of the Oil Pastel Society, I'm bowing out of the OPs. I do have a set of 26 Cra-Pas Specialist oil pastels left to get rid of if anyone is interested. These are hardly used. Great for beginners.

I just don't like them.

Pat Isaac
09-01-2008, 04:15 PM
Thanks for hosting Randi-Lee and I stickied the thread. I just love that little Jay. My grandfather was born in Ireland and many of my relatives travel there every other year for the Cassidy clan meet in Fermanagh County. I have never been there yet, but who knows.

Pat

Scarefishcrow
09-01-2008, 04:47 PM
Looks interesting, Randi-Lee. I may try these in another media.

As a past member of the Oil Pastel Society, I'm bowing out of the OPs. I do have a set of 26 Cra-Pas Specialist oil pastels left to get rid of if anyone is interested. These are hardly used. Great for beginners.

I just don't like them.

Donn, we are sorry to see you go! But we each have to find the path that we enjoy and suits us. If OP isn't fun, then your art isn't going to be fun for you and that certainly will show through. I, for one, wish you the best with whatever pathway you choose in art and am glad you tried OP. If no one takes you up on your offer, PM me and I will give you my address and I will see that they make their way to some one that needs them. It is a generous offer.

I'm curious as to whether you ever tried other brands of OP as Specialists are quite hard and dry, more so than any other brand.

It would be interesting to know what it was about the medium that you found disappointing or was not to your liking. I'm not trying to be nosy, I'm a relative newcommer and trying to find out all I can about the medium, both positive and negative. Perhaps it will help me advise those considering OP with more informed and objective counsel.

Please stop by the Oil Gusher in the OP Talk and post a link to your attempts in your medium of choice so we can see what you do with the challenge.

I wish you the best and hope you at least gained an appreciation of what others can do with the medium even if it was not what you wanted to pursue.

Thanks.

and Best of Luck in your creative endeavors.

Bill:thumbsup:

Pat Isaac
09-01-2008, 05:20 PM
I thought I added that in my last post, but obviously didn't. I am sorry to see you leave us, Donn, but hope you will stop by now and then and visit especially the talk forum and let us know what you are up to. It is certainly important that you get satisfaction from your art.

Pat:)

Rusla
09-01-2008, 05:37 PM
Bill,

You should kick yourself for not going to Ireland. Needless to say I have over 2000 pictures of Ireland. There is no lack of things to paint in Ireland, I am very big on old architecture and history. However this time you did not get my architecture pictures. I am big on nature also and there is lots of nature in Ireland. If I was able to, I would move to ireland. The people, food, everything about it, I loved.

I would be interested in some of the Renassiance Fair pictures. I did not take any this year of the Highland Games...tooo cold, I was shaking.

To see Slieve League and many places we went, you would have to drive Ireland. My sister and I did that because we are not bus tour people and we like to go places most people wouldn't go to or get to. We also went to the very scary Bunglass Cliffs.

The Renaissance Fairs are different than the Highland Games. The Renaissance fairs are general Medieval etc. festivals not restricting to bagpiping and Celtic Dancing, which these mainly do and the games
of the Highlands. It is the demonstrations that may differ but they still have to be connected to the Highlands or the Celts. Where in a Renaissance Fair they have much more latitude. Highland Games last a day, Renaissence Fairs last in some places up to a week. In Alberta we do not have Renaissence Fairs...too many rednecks.

Randi-Lee

RainySea
09-01-2008, 05:44 PM
Donn, as a very new member of the OPS, I would like to say that I too am sad to see you opt out. But I hope you have found a medium that suites you and that you truly LOVE. I have a friend at work who tried to interest me in watercolor. I even tried taking a class with her and she loaned me all sorts of supplies in hopes I'd love it like she does. But it just wasn't for me. So I know where you are coming from.

Best to you.

Pat Isaac
09-01-2008, 05:45 PM
That's true. We have a huge Renaissance Fair in our area every year. It is very popular and will be starting in a few weeks. sorry to say I have never been to it. It goes on for about 4 weekends.

Pat

Rusla
09-01-2008, 05:47 PM
Donn,

I am a Holbein girl in oil pastels. It was my love of oil pastels that got me interested in the dusty's.

Randi-Lee

Scarefishcrow
09-01-2008, 06:00 PM
Bill,

. In Alberta we do not have Renaissence Fairs...too many rednecks.

Randi-Lee

:lol: :lol: Being from the South (US) I'm familiar with the term "rednecks", but I must admit I had not heard it was common in northern parts of the Continent. Does it carry the same connotation and why does that work agarinst Renessaince Festivals?

Wait a minute, Calgary.....Calgary Stampede....Rodeos....Cowboys...Hmm. Is my line of thinking what you were referring to?? Actually, the Renessaince festival outside Minneapolis last about a month; it is HUGE, with all sorts of vendors, leatherworks, weaponry, food, stages with all sorts of acts, like stepping into a medieval village. The people in costume talk in old style and make comments, often bawdy, to visitors . It is a real hoot. Apparently people come from alll over the country to participate. the cloak I bought was from a vendor from colorado.

If you love old architechture, you would have loved the 16 day trip (7 on a river cruise on the volgabaltic riverway) in Russia last sumer (10000 pics). many churches, ruins, red square, kremlin, st. petersburg, Hermitage, Kremlin Armory Museum, Museum of Icons, and on and on. Incredible.

Bill

Rusla
09-01-2008, 07:11 PM
Yes Bill, Calgary is cowboys and faker flakers who think they are and big time redneck and yes it means the same. My goodness in cow country you can't have something as sissyfied as a Renaissance Fair. That would be their opinion of them. Calgary is a cultural wasteland and therefore there is too much culture in Renaissance Fairs, the Highland Games did not become big here till a couple of years ago and Canmore about an hour away in the mountains, more artsy and cultural is the biggest show in Western Canada.

Oh I would certainly have loved the trip you had been on. I hope some day to go to Romania and see what is known as Bram Castle. Actually I would love to tour the world for many assorted reasons. So much history too little time.

Randi-Lee

Scarefishcrow
09-01-2008, 08:49 PM
Actually my brother and his wife went to Bram Castle several years ago.


It's probably that they are too embarassed to wear the codpieces at the Renessaince festival.:eek: :eek: :eek: :o

I didn't really say that, did I??? Scratch that. I mean forget I ever said that:smug: :o :rolleyes: :evil:

Bill

Rusla
09-01-2008, 10:31 PM
Bill,

I can't forget you ever said that...lol and more than likely you are right.
After all you are only macho if you wear a codpiece on the inside not the outside. Around here they would think that if you haven't chewed snuff, spit on the sidewalk, faked a southern accent, drank all the alcohol in a bar, and urinated in public, you are not a man.

I bet Bram Castle is magnificent. It would be a great castle to paint.

Randi-Lee

Scarefishcrow
09-04-2008, 09:59 AM
Can't decide, bird or seascape. Both would be great.

Maybe I'll do both. Bill

Rusla
09-04-2008, 11:02 AM
Well I made a promise to the Bird that I would do her picture.
Do both Bill, I might.

Randi-Lee

shamanmoon
09-04-2008, 06:27 PM
Taking a break from the piece I am working on this gave me the opportunity to be quick and sloppy.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Sep-2008/23206-_MG_8675.gif

Scarefishcrow
09-04-2008, 06:29 PM
Nice interpretation, Sherman. Like the bold blue water.

Bill

Pat Isaac
09-04-2008, 06:41 PM
I like what you did with this, Sherman. Great sketch.

Pat

Rusla
09-04-2008, 11:21 PM
Good picture, Sherman.

Randi-Lee

shamanmoon
09-05-2008, 12:15 AM
Thank you for the encouragement. I also meant to put down the size which is aprox. 3.5"x2.5".

Rusla
09-05-2008, 07:50 PM
That small? That is amazing! I couldn't even attempt to get that kind of detail into that size.

Good Job!.

Randi-Lee

Pat Isaac
09-06-2008, 07:53 AM
Wow, so much detail in that tiny space.

Pat

paul444
09-06-2008, 08:46 AM
A great little painting Sherman. Very free and loose.

upnorthtim
09-06-2008, 10:45 PM
Here is a WIP on the Irish coast. The first image is my pencil sketch. The second is an underpainting in watercolor. I had meant to scan another image less developed than the third one but I got carried away painting and did not want to stop. Its not done yet...there are some areas I'm not happy with yet...particularly the left cliffs and some of the middleground. I abandoned trying to get exact detail and grew the grass a little longer in the forground to help with the depth. C&C and suggestions would be great! Thanks for looking.

Tim

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Sep-2008/133319-irishsketch.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Sep-2008/133319-irishwashes.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Sep-2008/133319-Irishmid.jpg

RainySea
09-06-2008, 11:16 PM
Really nice sketch, Sherman. . . nice sky.
And especially nice detail for that small size!

RainySea
09-06-2008, 11:27 PM
Tim, thanks for the WIP. As a beginner, I always really LOVE to see those and helps me learn. I've really should try an underpainting one of these days. Your OP is really coming on great. I love the colors and the definition you already have and am very eager to see the final!!

Scarefishcrow
09-07-2008, 12:35 AM
Tim,

This is comming along very well. Great job on the beach and water. I see what you mean about the left cliff face, but you should be careful not to get it too dark. The sun direction is such it should be highlighting that fact more than the right cliff which is in the shadows. I'll be interested in seeing where you go from here. I really like the areas on top of the cliffs.

Bill:thumbsup:

Pat Isaac
09-07-2008, 11:12 AM
Nice start to this painting, Tim. I like your strong use of color and the wispy clouds.

Pat

eleven_1985
09-07-2008, 11:12 AM
I'm new to oil pastel. I like this place, I think I will try seascape one. :-)

Scarefishcrow
09-07-2008, 11:39 AM
I'm new to oil pastel. I like this place, I think I will try seascape one. :-)

Cathy, Welcome to the OP Channel and forums. We like this place, too, and are glad you decided to jump in and take part.

You say you are new to OP, have you worked with other media before? There are lots of folks here, myself included, that consider ourselves "just starting to learn" and everyone from beginner to seasoned professional has something to offer of values. We all try to benefit from helping one another and having some fun doing it.

If you ever have questions, just askl There are links in my signature line that will take you to various resources. The Get Started link is a good overview of OP and the various kinds and tools.

The Studio area, here, is where posts that contain art are generally made and the link to the OP Talk area is for general discussions or threads that request info or ask questions. In the talk area is a weekly thread called the Oil Gusher that is just general chat with folks here about almost anything.

We look forward to seeing whatever your interpretation of the ref image is.

Welcome, again. Please don't hesitate to ask if you need to know something. Someone will show up with an answer!

Bill:wave:

Pat Isaac
09-07-2008, 11:58 AM
Welcome to the OP forum, Cathy. I think you will like it here. Bill has given you lots of help for moving around our forum and feel free to ask all the questions you want.
Looking forward to your posts.

Pat

eleven_1985
09-07-2008, 09:27 PM
Thank you very much Bill, you made a very useful signature line, there are many good information there!!
I use to draw with pencil and carbon. It express things in black & white, it is beautiful. but I also like to find something more colorful. And I saw so many beautiful drawings here. So I bought myself oil pasel set, (cheap one :)) and turpentine to start. I did some experiements of mixing color, blending ..etc to get familiar to this media, I really like the results. I really think I will have fun here. :)

Rusla
09-08-2008, 01:57 AM
Nice going on Slieve League, Tim.
Welcome to OP, Cathy.

Randi-Lee

Scarefishcrow
09-08-2008, 08:53 AM
Thank you very much Bill, you made a very useful signature line, there are many good information there!!
I use to draw with pencil and carbon. It express things in black & white, it is beautiful. but I also like to find something more colorful. And I saw so many beautiful drawings here. So I bought myself oil pasel set, (cheap one :)) and turpentine to start. I did some experiements of mixing color, blending ..etc to get familiar to this media, I really like the results. I really think I will have fun here. :)

Drawing is a foundation skill that I wish I had paid more attention to, and that background will serve you very well working with oil pastel.

There is nothing wrong with starting out with cheaper brands to learn, but if you decide you want to do serious work, then I would strongly recommend exploring the various artist level brands. Each brand has a slightly different feel, working characteristics, firmness, dry vs. creamy, etc.

As a rule, the cheaper brands tend to be among the firmer, stiff, and dryer (less creamy and harder to blend) end of the spectrum and often are less intense in their pigment content.

You can purchase online from "open stock" individual sticks of various brands and try out to see what brands fit your type of work. I have sets of most brands because I find each has its own use for particular things.

Also, the paper or other support you work on will greatly affect your results and different people prefer different supports.

Right now, enjoy and play around to see what the medium can do. As you have questions, please don't hesitate to ask. Someone will be able to help you and we all try to help each other here.

When you post artwork people will generally try to give you suggestions as to how they might have done some things and you should feel free to give constructive criticism to others if you see things you think would be beneficial. I find giving constructive critiques helps me learn to spot problems in my own work better.

We are glad you decided to join in the fun and creativity.

Bill:thumbsup:

eleven_1985
09-08-2008, 12:12 PM
Thanks Bill! And here is my drawing, I think tomorrow I will continue add some thing here and there. This one is on A5 sketch pad. I find it is difficult to get details, you know for pencil drawing I can use very sharp pencil for little details, but oil pastel stroke is much bigger. so I end up use knife to get sharp edge. Maybe next time I should try bigger size. :cat:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Sep-2008/125453-2008-09-08-1.jpg

criticisms & suggestions are very welcome :)

Pat Isaac
09-08-2008, 03:44 PM
A really nice start to your OP painting. I really like the color, bright and sunny. One thing I use for details or sharper edges are color shapers (firm) and tortillion stumps. These really clean up the edges. You can also use oil pencils by Walnut Hollow or polychromo colored pencils.

Pat

Scarefishcrow
09-08-2008, 05:57 PM
Cathy,
This is fantasic. Excellent sense of depth. The cliffs are very well modeled as are the shadowed areas on the right foreground. If I had to find a nit pick to suggest it might be a bit more development of the left foreground. The ridges are not as well defined as on the right and it seems it could use a tiny bit more detailing in the grasses.

The color use is excellent and I would say you are off to a wonderful start with OP. Keep them comming and let us see how you progress.

Bill

Rusla
09-08-2008, 08:05 PM
Cathy the colours are great, very nice indeed.

Randi-Lee

eleven_1985
09-09-2008, 05:49 AM
Thanks Pat, then I need to do some shopping. haha... I like that. :clap:
I find a tool at office today, quit good to make some scratch, maybe use for details of drawing. oil pencils are very good option, it will be similar to what I use to do.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Sep-2008/125453-IMG_0268.JPG
Bill, Thanks for advice. I see what you mean, let me try.
Randi, Thanks for your kind words.:)

eleven_1985
09-09-2008, 08:27 AM
Here is my update. Add little on the left foreground, and use my new tool try to make it looks like grass. :D
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Sep-2008/125453-2008-09-09.jpg

Pat Isaac
09-09-2008, 08:49 AM
Looking good and the new tool seems to be working well. I would tend to lighten the cliffs on the right so the recede a little more. Right now the are the same value as the foreground shadows. Really like the softness of the sky and water.

Pat

Scarefishcrow
09-09-2008, 09:33 AM
This does look good, Cathy. The scratching (sgrafitto) worked well. Another suggestion for doing grass is to use a craft knife to form a sharp edge on your pastels and use very light, short strokes with that edge to get a finer line. Varying the shades of green and even yellow highlits here can make grass more believable that relatively uniform color.

Bill

eleven_1985
09-10-2008, 11:00 AM
Thaks Pet! Thanks Bill! Thank you for very valuable suggestions. I have little time today. and worked a little bit on the drawing again.... really don't when I can call it finished. always can find something can be improved.. :cat:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Sep-2008/125453-2008-09-10002-2.jpg

Pat Isaac
09-10-2008, 11:09 AM
Oh yes, looking really good now. The right cliff recedes. :thumbsup:

Pat

Scarefishcrow
09-10-2008, 01:30 PM
Cathy,
It is amazing how small changes can greatly affect a piece. You have really improved this from the first version and it is an excellent beginning in oil pastel.

Great job.

Bill:thumbsup:

eleven_1985
09-11-2008, 01:27 AM
Thanks Bill & Pat. I really had a lot of fun doing this. I'm sure I will do more OP. :)

paul444
09-11-2008, 08:41 AM
Nice painting Tim.
Cathy, A great painting which you have improved upon several times. Well done.

Here's my interpretation of the coastal scene. Its 6 X 4 watercolour paper using sennelier op's.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Sep-2008/82968-coastal_scene.jpg

Pat Isaac
09-11-2008, 09:17 AM
Nice work, Paul and it is so tiny. I love all the added colors in the grasses.

Pat

Scarefishcrow
09-11-2008, 12:19 PM
Very nice work Paul, and Pat stole my compliment on the addition of patches of color suggesting flowers on the foreground.

Bill:thumbsup:

Rusla
09-11-2008, 09:47 PM
Oh wow! Cathy that is so much better now. You have such great colour and detail in it.

Paul, that is also a great picture of Slieve League.


Randi-Lee

shamanmoon
09-11-2008, 11:25 PM
Cathy and Paul,

What wonderful and considered representations. Congrats to you both.

Shy

Rusla
09-12-2008, 08:44 PM
Here it is the first OP I have done in 13 years. It is my baby Blue Jay with Celtic knot branches. On 8x10 canvas board, not primed enough with Colourfix Fresh Grey, using Holbein student grade OP's.

C&C welcome.

Randi-Lee

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Sep-2008/127469-Sapph3.jpg

Scarefishcrow
09-12-2008, 09:49 PM
Well, Randi-Lee, not bad for the first one in 13 years! I really like the way you wove the branches to form the celtic knot pattern.

I guess I better decide which I'm going to do!!!

Bill

Rusla
09-12-2008, 10:00 PM
It was tougher than I remembered. I kind of got side tracked into dusty's these years. I guess I need to do an oil a month. I guess perhaps I may consider doing Slieve League.

Randi-Lee

truck driver
09-13-2008, 08:34 AM
for scratching i use are yall ready for this from an idiotic redneck truckdriver?
a piece of wood dowel sanded smooth, and sharpened to a point with a very good pencil sharpener. great work from everybody so far. I have decided that the Irish scene needs my attention. however I need to find one of my tools to finish it.. will show it to you soon, sorry to hear you are quitting oil pastels don, and just cuz you didnt go then dont mean you cant go next time bill. though stay away from d' brew.

RG

Scarefishcrow
09-13-2008, 11:08 AM
for scratching i use are yall ready for this from an idiotic redneck truckdriver?
a piece of wood dowel sanded smooth, and sharpened to a point with a very good pencil sharpener. great work from everybody so far. I have decided that the Irish scene needs my attention. however I need to find one of my tools to finish it.. will show it to you soon, sorry to hear you are quitting oil pastels don, and just cuz you didnt go then dont mean you cant go next time bill. though stay away from d' brew.

RG

I expect I will go next time, RG. BTW, I have also used a wooden dowel sharpened in a pencil sharpener. Great minds thing along the same lines.........What's the explanation here, though?:lol:

Bill:thumbsup:

upnorthtim
09-13-2008, 11:46 AM
Here is the latest version of mine. I had the same idea as Paul...add some foreground color to aid in the depth. I'm pretty happy with the left side cliffs now. I'm still not happy with my dark green gullies in the middle ground. C&C welcome!

Tim

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Sep-2008/133319-irishop.jpg

Scarefishcrow
09-13-2008, 12:06 PM
Great job, Tim. I really like the motion in the waves comming in and I really like the tiny touch of scumbled dark brown on the beach. Small touch, but it really makes big difference in creating a sense of texture and variety in the color.

Great job.

Bill

truck driver
09-14-2008, 01:15 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Sep-2008/136518-ireland.jpg

quickly drawn in the middle of the night sneakily even...

RG

Scarefishcrow
09-14-2008, 10:22 AM
Nice quick sketch, RG. Why did you have to be sneaky??

Bill

Bars
09-14-2008, 11:14 PM
:cat: Hi folks, haven,t posted for a while. Just nice to be back. I had almost forgotten how much fun op's can be.Done on sketch paper with some little op's I picked up really cheap. I was very surprised at how soft they are. What do you think?Will have to upload later. Server has a problem Bars

Scarefishcrow
09-14-2008, 11:21 PM
:cat: Hi folks, haven,t posted for a while. Just nice to be back. I had almost forgotten how much fun op's can be.Done on sketch paper with some little op's I picked up really cheap. I was very surprised at how soft they are. What do you think?Will have to upload later. Server has a problem Bars

Bars, Welcome back. We missed you. :wave:

Look forward seeing what you do with those OP.

Bill

Bars
09-15-2008, 02:12 AM
:cat: Glad to be back Bill, per usual having upload problems. Some things never change:lol:Bars

Pat Isaac
09-15-2008, 06:45 AM
Great sketch, RG, nice sky and I like the grass textures in the foreground.
Welcome back Bars and that is a lovely sketch. It has a nice sunny feel to it. Sorry about the upload problems.
Pat

Finnegan18
09-15-2008, 08:24 AM
They are all so great.

Scarefishcrow
09-15-2008, 11:51 AM
Great sketch, Bars. I really like the bright colors. Great to have you back.:clap:

Bill:thumbsup:

truck driver
09-16-2008, 03:45 AM
Nice quick sketch, RG. Why did you have to be sneaky??

Bill

because my wife wanted me to go to bed, and I didnt want to..

RG

Bars
09-16-2008, 04:10 AM
Thanks Pat and, I was really concentrating on the colours and seeing how well these op's blended. I thought the right side colours (hills) blended rather well, but having no really good op's have not much to compare them to. Bars

paul444
09-16-2008, 07:04 AM
Randi-lee, a great bird, I like what you have done with the branches.

Tim, a great seascape, you have achieved a good sense of depth.

paul444
09-16-2008, 07:07 AM
RG, A nice sneaky sketch, but I think she who must be obeyed will find out soon.

Welcome back Bars, nice sketch.

Pat Isaac
09-16-2008, 07:17 AM
Missed the baby bird, Randi-lee. Nice color on the jay and what a good take on the intricate branches.

Pat

Rusla
09-16-2008, 06:55 PM
Thanks, Pat, I have to get back into working with my OP's.

Randi-Lee

Sarina
09-19-2008, 08:08 AM
Hi all,

I've mainly been browsing, I was't a deliberate lurker just couldn't get the courage to post or the digital camera and pc to co-operate until now.

I chose the bird on account of less number of competition so far, lol. No just thought it would be interesting to learn more about close up pictures, I'm a complete newbie to oil pastels.

I don't have money to buy good pastels at the moment :( but it's fun anyway...
Will post the pic as soon as the site allows once this one loads up. :)

Sarina

Sarina
09-19-2008, 08:11 AM
Hi,

I think all your artwork is beautiful! Sorry for the double post, if it does go against any of your policies just let me know and I won't do it again, only your site said I can't post picture until I had two posts and I was hoping my introduction post was still lurking somewhere so I could put my picture up...

Please give me any comments on how I can go on further with the picture.

May aim is to continue having fun being creative!

Sarina

Picture = approx h24cm x w21cm - Using student oil pastels
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Sep-2008/153886-Bird.JPG

Pat Isaac
09-19-2008, 09:33 AM
Hi Sarina and Welcome to the oil pastel forum....:wave: You have a very nice start on this little jay. I would add more layers of color to the painting. I like your interpretation of the leaves in the background, gives it an almost abstract feel. Continue to have fun and be sure to ask any questions you might have. There was no double post. That is a rule of Wet Canvas about not posting a picture until you have had 2 posts.
Hope to see more.

Pat

Scarefishcrow
09-19-2008, 12:45 PM
Serina. Welcome to the Oil Pastel Channel and our forums.:wave:
We are glad you decided to take part in the Challenge and join us.

There are some links in my signature line that will take you to places where you can find out about how to Get Started in OP and you should read the "Sticky" posts in the OP Studio forum (this one) that tell you how to get around, policies for posting and critiques.

The following links will help you find your way around and know where things are: (You might want to bookmark these in your browser to find them again later):

Navigating the OP Forums (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7139794&postcount=1)
Getting Started in OP (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5946193&postcount=1)
Posting Guidelines (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=464090)
Critique Guidelines (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=453577)
Beginner's Introdction to WC! (http://http://www.wetcanvas.com/Articles2/14803/823/)

I hope this info will help you get oriented if you are new to WC! or just new to the OP Channel.

If you have questions, never hesitate to ask. Someone is always willing to try and help with an answer. There are people from every skill level, from those just starting out to experienced artists. We all try to help and learn from each other! Welcome, again, and I'm sure you will make many new friends here.

Serina, you have a good start and did a good job with the young jay. Pat has given you some excellent advice and I agree with her.

We look forward to seeing you around the forum.

This is one of the best places to learn by looking at others work and asking questions.

Bill:wave:

Rusla
09-19-2008, 08:00 PM
Thats a lovely little picture of the Sapphire bird, welcome to OP's. I remember her looking just like that then.

Randi-Lee

Scarefishcrow
09-20-2008, 10:23 PM
Well, Randi, here's my rendition of Slieve League, 9x12 watercolor paper 140lb, coated with gray acrylic gesso, using mostly Holbeins, some Senns, and Specialist. Severely overblended and done far to quickly. I may work on this some more when it sets up.

Scanner a bit dirty (covers up a multitude of sins):rolleyes:
Thanks for hosting this month.

Bill:thumbsup:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Sep-2008/108067-2008-09-20_21-16-24_0005.jpg

Pat Isaac
09-21-2008, 08:03 AM
Nice start, Bill and I would definitely do a little more work on this. I like the purple in the sky and the foreground could be darker so the cliffs recede. I like the feeling of brushwork in this.
Pat

Scarefishcrow
09-21-2008, 05:42 PM
Yes, I have been trying to work without constantly copying the ref image and as you can see, I have to work at this quite a bit more. Still trying to have my Artist Brain subdue my Intellecual Brain that wants me to draw what it thinks I see rather than what I actually see!

Definitely will rework.

Bill

Rusla
09-21-2008, 10:07 PM
Very interesting and lovely Bill, can't wait to see what other improvements you make to it.

Randi-Lee

Mmadsen
09-22-2008, 05:29 PM
Bill, Love it. It has a freaky "masters" feel to it. Picasso has a little influence or someone - . . . famous.

Mark

Scarefishcrow
09-22-2008, 07:15 PM
Bill, Love it. It has a freaky "masters" feel to it. Picasso has a little influence or someone - . . . famous.

Mark

I'm skeptical of the "Masters" but certainly agree it has a "freaky" feel! Good to see you Mark.:wave:

Sarina
09-23-2008, 02:01 AM
I agree, not that I'm good enough to really comment... hehehe I really like it too, it looks more like an actual oil PAINT painting... if that makes sense... definately has its own style, which I also have to learn later on once I get some of the techniques right... kind of dark and mysterious, almost like its out of a novel or something - spooky... :D

Sarina

Scarefishcrow
09-23-2008, 09:34 AM
I agree, not that I'm good enough to really comment... hehehe I really like it too, it looks more like an actual oil PAINT painting... if that makes sense... definately has its own style, which I also have to learn later on once I get some of the techniques right... kind of dark and mysterious, almost like its out of a novel or something - spooky... :D

Sarina

Sarina, sometimes those that are learning can bring fresh eyes and viewpoints that even experiences artists miss. That is the whole idea here. Not that what you or I say is right or wrong, it is how we see a work through our eyes. Comments and suggestions and offering these are also a way of learning for you. So look at other's work; make your own observations, see what others say, analyze these things and you will learn from them things you can apply in your own work.

Bill

Scarefishcrow
09-24-2008, 08:34 PM
Had another go at Slieve League. This time in an 8x10 sketchbook with CD Neocolor II brushed out with water. Somewhat less "freaky", but still not what I had hoped for. I guess that's why they call it a challenge.

Billhttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/24-Sep-2008/108067-9-24-2008_7-11-23_PM_-_0003.jpg

Pat Isaac
09-25-2008, 07:46 AM
Nice solid color in this, Bill. I especially like the sky. I do think the cliffs need to be darker.

Pat

Scarefishcrow
09-25-2008, 11:15 AM
I agree, Pat. The shadow areas seem to get lost in this.

Bill

mysurface
09-25-2008, 11:15 AM
When I saw Randi post up a nice photo, I can't help myself to pick up OP and start painting it. Here is mine.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Sep-2008/155060-sept2008c.JPG

I am using ATC size 3.5 inch x 2.5 inch black mounting board, my OP is CRAY-PAS Expressionist 36 colors. C & C are welcome.

Pat Isaac
09-25-2008, 11:32 AM
Very nice, Ong. I like your nice clean color and good grief, how do you do that in such a small area!!! Amazing.

Pat

mysurface
09-25-2008, 11:41 AM
Thanks Pat.
Ya, Its quite challenging, as the diameter of my OP stick is already 0.4 inch. But with small size of card, i can finish the painting very fast, its like within 1/2 hour on a small table. In fact I am actually painting in front of the laptop. But I can't workout the details such as the grass.

Well, I am wondering how Tanya Bond can. Her ACEOs are quite in details.

Pat Isaac
09-25-2008, 12:07 PM
Here is a WIP by Tanya, that might give you some insight into her process.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=448645

Pat

mysurface
09-25-2008, 12:24 PM
Thanks Pat!!

Her secret for details is colour pencils!

Scarefishcrow
09-25-2008, 03:16 PM
Surface,
Very good job on such a small card! Did you get some new Craypas Expressionists? I thought all you had were the Buncho Korean brand?

Bill

mysurface
09-25-2008, 07:23 PM
Thanks Bill,

Ya, I have both Cray-pas expressionist 36 colors and buncho 48 colors. :)

Rusla
09-27-2008, 01:09 PM
Great job, Ong! It is lovely on such a small surface.

Randi-Lee

Rusla
09-27-2008, 01:12 PM
Bill, I am with Pat on the cliffs being darker but this is even better and it is still the essence of Slieve League.

Randi-Lee

Scarefishcrow
09-27-2008, 04:47 PM
Bill, I am with Pat on the cliffs being darker but this is even better and it is still the essence of Slieve League.

Randi-Lee

I have to admit that I've been trying to do too many things at once and really didn't spend the time on these that I need to. Both were done in one fairly short sitting and withouth the thought that I need to learn to put into my work. I think a great deal about the images, and study them in great detail, but when it comes to working I still haven't learned the discipline to focus thoughtfully on what I'm doing and tend to get carried away with the excitement of the colors and choosing them spontaneously.

I really need to complete my studio, which is getting close, so I can have a more stable place to work and perhaps focus more on the pieces.

These are both beautiful references, and this has been a wonderful challenge, Randi. Thanks so much for doing it.

And we need to see more of you. Use those OP's when you get a chance! I have a feeling Michael will not be completely out of the woods with the halloween spectre until another challenge is finished later in October. Hope to see you there.

Bill

artbyDanielDyment
10-19-2008, 10:50 AM
I am so sorry for being so late. My scaner broke and I haven't had a camera until now. But here is my entry.
It is in my 8.5x11 sketchbook. It is done with Demco oil pastels. I am just starting in oil pastels, so I only have crappy student ones.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Oct-2008/140090-Slieve_League_on_the_North_West_Irish_Coast.jpg

Pat Isaac
10-19-2008, 11:00 AM
Well, I think you have done very well for just starting with OPs. Nice strong color.

Pat

Scarefishcrow
10-19-2008, 01:35 PM
Don't worry about being late. We're glad to have you post your work and welcome you to the OP Channel. If you are new to us, we ask you to please read the thread accessed by clicking on the Newbie link in my signature line. This will give you an overview of the way the forums here are organized and what they contain; also there are links to basic posting guidelines, critique guidelines and other useful info. If you are just getting started, then check out the Get Started link in my siggie line, too.

There are lots of beginners and plenty of users that are working with less expensive OP's for the time being. As you progress, you can explore the forums threads that contain lots of advice on what strategies are for moving to better quality OP's and what brands are available and how they differ.

You are off to a good start and the most important thing is the desire, interest and willingness to keep trying. You learn as much from your mistakes as you do from successes.

Persistence pays off and if you have questions this is the place where people will offer answers, support and encouragement.

Keep painting.

Bill:wave:

artbyDanielDyment
10-19-2008, 07:05 PM
Thank you to both of you! I like oil pastels a lot... I am getting better each time I use them. I seem to learn something new/use a new technique I like. I am also looking into investing into some artist oil pastels. I have got a lot of great info from here! :)

robertsloan2
10-20-2008, 07:09 AM
Daniel, your latest oil pastel is so striking. I just saw this, and you've outdone yourself here. The grass texture is great and you did so well with the cloud shapes too. I'm glad I glanced at your post. This is beautiful. Try the water lily in the October challenge, or the pumpkins, please, you are really doing great with these oil pastels!

artbyDanielDyment
10-20-2008, 08:22 PM
Daniel, your latest oil pastel is so striking. I just saw this, and you've outdone yourself here. The grass texture is great and you did so well with the cloud shapes too. I'm glad I glanced at your post. This is beautiful. Try the water lily in the October challenge, or the pumpkins, please, you are really doing great with these oil pastels!
I have no art homework this weekend! :) So I am going to be able to finally get some art of my own done. I will be sure to try one if not both of them.