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HarvestMoon
03-29-2008, 11:48 AM
I bought one of the new 72 color sets of Derwent's Inktense pencils... thought I would share my color chart so the rest of you won't have to buy them in a blind leap of faith...:D

There are actually 71 colors- one of the pencils is an outliner- which appears to me to be a regular graphite type pencil...

far left is dry- then wet... then dragged across white paper...

Most of the colors are mouthwatering when WET... as they are intended to be...I especially love the magentas to purples...I am only disappointed that there are so many BLACKS to almost Blacks... like...
Sepia Ink
Indian Ink
Chinese Ink
Ink Black

then a few greys... I am a bright color person... don't need even one black or grey...but some of you may...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/29-Mar-2008/90309-inktense-1.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/29-Mar-2008/90309-inktense-2.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/29-Mar-2008/90309-inktense-3.jpg

Delofasht
03-29-2008, 12:30 PM
Mouthwatering eh?. . . I wouldn't have thought that, but I've never tried to lick, or errr eat, my art before. :lol:

But yeah I really like the range of colors and how bright they are, not too disappointed with the darks, they are extremely useful for creating a nice value study of something. I do like them but I wasn't extremely impressed by some of the lightfastness information, especially in the reds (which are my favorite colors in Inktense), but I do enjoy using them for sketches.

- Del

Mrs. Leadhead
03-29-2008, 01:21 PM
I've been working with Inktense pencils, like their dazzling colors very much, and have just started a new floral piece with them. Poppy Red and Fuchsia are better than the other reds and Sun Yellow is more lightfast than Cadmium Yellow, according to the lightfastness data on the Derwent website. I've been custom-mixing some of the colors I need, with the lightfastness chart at my side as a guide. I also spray the finished art with Krylon UV-resistant spray to help protect it from UV rays. For good measure, I'm also switching to having artwork with lots of reds, carmines, and pinks framed under conservation glass.
I've been using Inktense pencils on Aquabord, formerly called "Claybord Textured", which has little bumps that really grab the pigment. Once the damp brush hits it- whoosh!- it dissolves into a luscious wash and the tiny bumps are not so apparent.
They say that Inktense pigment is permanent (and it certainly is more staining). I learned that if I let it dry on Aquabord a long time- like overnight- I can use either some type of scrubbing brush or angle shader brush (wetted with clear water) to lift the color- or use a battery-powered eraser. It may not return to the pure white of the board, but it lifts a lot. Just remember to clean off those eraser crumbs right away!
Kristy
www.artshow.com/kutch/workshops.html

dhara
03-29-2008, 03:00 PM
ooh wow!
i love the vibrant colors of Derwent Inktense.

just got the 24 box. Played with it a bit and was stunned when i added water to the pencil strokes. Such beautiful colors.

Seeing this 72 color chart makes me want more :D
But first, i have to play a bit more with my 24 box

thanks for showing us the chart

Laura D
03-29-2008, 03:05 PM
Wow, I know from experience how much work these color chart can be. (You really don't want to know about mine- giggle.) The blacks and dark greys are something that wc artists tend to stay away from as they can muddy the other colors. I'd suggest you use complementary colors to do your shading. Diox Purple is wonderful for underpainting, I think Derwent's Deep Violet is Diox pigment.

Kristy, one of the best things I've found to get back to the virgin state of the paper is Mr. Clean Magic Eraser sponge. There are no chemicals (in the original version) it's just the structure of the sponge that makes it work so well. I've been able to get back to white with every color but the phthalocyenes and quincridone magenta. As with any lifting technique you have to use a very gentle touch and a lot of patience.

Mrs. Leadhead
03-29-2008, 04:23 PM
Mr. Clean!!! Wow- I had read a similar hint a few years ago but dismissed it, thinking that there must be some additive to the sponge which might affect the art surface. Now I'll need to add that to my shopping list.
Thanks, Luara!
Kristy
www.artshow.com/kutch

friesin
03-29-2008, 05:01 PM
Linda, thank you so much for this card !!

I am very fond of Inktense pencils, and I have just ordered the 72 range :clap:

Can' t wait to get them :thumbsup:

HarvestMoon
03-29-2008, 07:47 PM
Glad you guys like the chart.... now I need to actually use them to do something.... it has been a long time since I did a painting only with the inktense...so if these don't inspire me nothing will!

Laura D
03-29-2008, 10:56 PM
Kristy, they are cheeeeeeep too.

Linda, scribble and spritz!

vanity
03-30-2008, 05:33 AM
Unfortunately , not many of the new colours are lightfast :(
On the other hand... I am wondering in what way does using water affect lightfastness. Not that I am an expert , but I think it may make the pigment less lightfast (?) . Wouldn't that make Inktense a medium that is non-archival anyway?

HarvestMoon
03-30-2008, 11:36 AM
Vanity- I don't know about the lightfast issues... YIPES... I thought after the Prismacolor lightfast fiasco that everyone making NEW products for artist would surely make them lightfast.... huge SIGH.....this set was NOT CHEAP either....

vanity
03-30-2008, 12:26 PM
That is why I think of wc pencil as a medium that is great for illustrating / working with sketchbook etc. and not for creating pictures that we'd like to see hanging on the wall.
p.s Why Sanford's Lightfast pencils were a fiasco ?

HarvestMoon
03-30-2008, 02:43 PM
p.s Why Sanford's Lightfast pencils were a fiasco ?

no, not their lightfast line- but the regular line of prismacolors that was billed for many years as being for artists....

vanity
03-31-2008, 09:56 AM
Oh , I see.
I think I am going to buy them anyway . My cp addiction is too strong ;)

HarvestMoon
03-31-2008, 04:06 PM
Oh , I see.
I think I am going to buy them anyway . My cp addiction is too strong ;)

yes- exactly.... me too....I am totally fascinated by them....

Laura D
03-31-2008, 06:58 PM
Using water doesn't affect the lightfastness of a pigment. It is the pigment particle that can fade or discolor over time and/or the fillers used which can erode the pigment particles or cause discoloration under certain conditions.

Mrs. Leadhead
03-31-2008, 10:13 PM
Laura- I just bought a Mr. Clean Eraser tonight and used it on an Inktensed area on my Aquabord (Claybord Textured). Wow- you were right! I cut a wedge of the sponge so that I could aim it better into some tight spaces, wetted it, wrung it out, and it lifted the dried pigment so it was nice and clean, back to white. It didn't gouge or scratch the surface of the Aquabord, either. Thanks for the great hint!
Kristy
www.artshow.com/kutch/workshops.html

Laura D
03-31-2008, 10:41 PM
:thumbsup: :D

HarvestMoon
04-01-2008, 05:59 PM
where do you get the Mr. Clean Eraser? I use the textured claybord a lot now with gouache....

Laura D
04-01-2008, 10:36 PM
At the grocery store in the cleaning aisle. Cheeeeep too. I buy 4-5 boxes at a time because everyone wants to use them for regular cleaning. Go figure!

Mrs. Leadhead
04-02-2008, 10:17 AM
Harvest Moon-
I just bought an Ampersand Fiber Brush http://www.cheapjoes.com/art-supply/AMPFB_9654_ampersand-fiber-brush-tool-for-claybord.asp . It is also great for lifting watercolor pencil/Inktense pencil pigment from the Aquabord surface. Probably it would work well with your applications, too. Just be careful of the tiny "hairs" because they can be surprisingly sharp against your fingertip.
The Mr. Clean Eraser (original version) is terrific, but I use the Fiber Brush for smaller spaces where I need to tightly control the lifting.
Take care,
Kristy
www.artshow.com/kutch/workshops.html

HarvestMoon
04-02-2008, 10:17 AM
Laura- OH that explains it... do I clean (no)... LOL... thanks so much- I will get some!!!

Laura D
04-02-2008, 02:04 PM
:lol:

dotb
04-11-2008, 12:10 AM
Thanks for the chart and the info...I have been curious and thought I'd start with the small set...sounds like I might be wanting more after I try them!