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Carey Griffel
08-02-2008, 06:55 AM
Hello and welcome to the next installment of our "Masters of the Month". Th next two months we are going to study Anders Zorn, a Swedish painter who lived from 1860-1920. Zorn was actually the very first of our MOMs...way back in 2004. Here is a link to that original post (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156379).

This thread itself will be a "work in progress" as I hope to accumulate a variety of links and images regarding the study of this great painter.

To begin, here is a link to his wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Zorn).

And a few links to collections of his work:
http://www.anderszorn.info/
http://www.artcyclopedia.com/artists/zorn_anders.html
http://www.elevenland.com/zorn/ (etchings)
http://www.artrenewal.org/articles/2002/Anders_Zorn/zorn1.asp (ARC etchings article)
http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/art.asp?aid=1078 (ARC database)

An article here on WetCanvas by Matt Viinanen:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Articles2/15549/305/

If anyone else has any interesting links, articles, threads, images you would like to share here, please feel free! There is a wealth of information in just the first page when you Google his name, as you can see in my links above.

Consider this a playground of sorts...you can choose to copy a particular image, or do your own in a "Zorn palette". I will be back with some suggestions hopefully once I've digested some of this information myself!

Hope you're able to join us...and a peremptory thanks to all who do participate and make these threads possible and enjoyable.

~!Carey

Carey Griffel
08-02-2008, 06:59 AM
Here is one particular image that I have always found very striking regarding the palette and the composition:

A Portrait of the Daughters of Ramon Subercasseaux
32 x 25 1/2 inches, oil on canvas
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Aug-2008/32203-Zorn_Anders_A_Portrait_Of_The_Daughters_Of_Ramon_Subercasseaux.jpg
(large version here on ARC (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=7187))

Carey Griffel
08-02-2008, 07:01 AM
And an interesting WIP from the Painting from the Masters subforum, taking a watercolor and reproducing it in oils:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=218076

(This is another of his pictures that I find fascinating in composition!)

~!Carey

Rosic
08-02-2008, 08:48 AM
Matt Sammekull encouraged me ( newbie at the time) to pick up the brush and join him in the first Zorn MOM in January of 2004... that was my first serious attempt at oil painting and it's been my passion since. I may re-paint that first one just to compare the two. ;)

Thanks Matt!

Thanks Carey for keeping the MOM project alive and starting this one!

LGHumphrey
08-02-2008, 03:03 PM
Great choice, Carey.

Grotius
08-06-2008, 06:45 PM
A great choice indeed! Sort of spooky, because just two hours ago I Googled gouache because my mother has started working with it. In the Wikipedia article on gouache, the first image presented is Zorn's gouache of a woman bathing her child. Er, this link contains a naked butt; I hope it's OK if I post it here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gouache

Anyway, I didn't pay any attention to the identity of the artist, but I did marvel at the image, which didn't comport at all with my preconceptions about gouache. Then I encountered this thread, and I was perusing your links on Zorn, and I stumbled upon the same image -- as an etching.

http://www.artrenewal.org/articles/2002/Anders_Zorn/zorn1.asp

Pretty neat!

Finally, I can't resist posting this image of "The Port of Hamburg" (1891). I love to be on the water, and I'd like to work on my portrayal of water; this work might give me a nice opportunity.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Aug-2008/97183-Zorn261237.jpg

Rosic
08-06-2008, 10:39 PM
don't cha love that color harmony...

LGHumphrey
08-07-2008, 05:49 PM
That painting is so good that I can smell the salt water.

mawdwyn
08-08-2008, 09:37 PM
Wow! So many beautiful, amazing paintings! I hope I can find time to try doing
a "Zorn". Still need to finish my "Van Gogh" (from February!).
Great choice, Carey! Can't wait to see what everyone else does with this.

Kong
08-12-2008, 03:05 AM
He's a big influence on me and as I get older I move father in his direction .

No one does water like Zorn

lobbamobba
08-12-2008, 09:12 AM
Here are two pages I like.
http://www.zorngallery.se/
http://www.zorn.se/engmain.html

Rosic
08-14-2008, 11:12 PM
I have been playing with the Zorn palette today... I'll share the results when I get a photo.
B

!becca
08-15-2008, 11:31 AM
Is it acceptable to mix a little blue into the ivory black for the Zorn Palette?

Rosic
08-15-2008, 01:29 PM
Is it acceptable to mix a little blue into the ivory black for the Zorn Palette?

I did Becca... used a little Ultramarine Blue into my Ivory Black.

Rosic
08-15-2008, 03:35 PM
I did a cover of Zorn's...
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Aug-2008/17108-st_emmaread.jpg
Emma Zorn, Lasande
1887
Oil on canvas
40 1/8 x 60 1/2 inches (102.11 x 153.92 cm)

Using the Zorn palette plus Ultramarine Blue added to my Ivory Black...

6x8" on panel
Experimenting with his palette for the first time... didn't get quite enough warmth in her face...
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Aug-2008/17108-zorn_cover_3.jpg

6x8" on panel...
Painted from personal reference images from recent trip to Ireland using the Zorn palette...
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Aug-2008/17108-painting_for_pat_3.jpg

!becca
08-15-2008, 03:42 PM
Great work, Bernie, congratulations on your efforts. Such good detail at a small scale, I love the hand holding the paper. Your painting of Ireland is much warmer, both are very nice.:clap: :clap:

Rosic
08-16-2008, 07:40 AM
Thanks Becca... going plein air painting Sunday and plan to use this same palette.

mawdwyn
08-18-2008, 04:24 PM
Decided to give this a try...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Aug-2008/116300-Zorn_Anders_Martha_Dana.jpg

Got off to a really awful start and would have given it up, but it was too late to go get another canvas. So I scrubbed some more paint over her face to see if I could save it. :p It's not so bad now, so I'll keep going on it.
W&N Artisan, 20"X30":

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Aug-2008/116300-Dana-Zorn-Copy1.jpg

It doesn't look like her, but at least it looks human now!
Nice job on your portrait, Rosic!:clap:

mawdwyn
08-18-2008, 04:28 PM
Double post-trying to delete...

!becca
08-19-2008, 12:17 PM
Mawdwyn, aren't you brave. You tackled what I think looks like a tough portrait and have done pretty well. I look forward to progress photos.:)

mawdwyn
08-19-2008, 01:12 PM
Thanks, Becca. It's been a heck of a challenge so far - trying to get her to resemble the original. I keep seeing all the things I need to correct and hope I can get this done without overworking it. I really like the loose, sketchy brushwork in the original.
I'm looking forward to seeing some versions of Zorn's water scenes. I wasn't brave enough to tackle any of those!

!becca
08-19-2008, 01:37 PM
Well, I didn't try to do any of Zorn's original work, but I did paint this one yesterday usiing the Zorn Palette. It is 20"x24".

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Aug-2008/100116-my_paintings_006_copy.jpg

mawdwyn
08-19-2008, 01:50 PM
Nice work there. I like the subdued colors. Except for the clothes/hair, it looks like it could be from Zorn's time.

!becca
08-19-2008, 03:12 PM
Thank you, mawdwyn.:)

WC Lee
08-19-2008, 03:30 PM
Painted this using a slight variation of the Zorn palette: titanium white, yellow ochre, venetian red, and payne's gray.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Aug-2008/122017-sketch01347.jpg

oil on board, 5 x 7

Dana Design
08-19-2008, 03:35 PM
WC, that's exceptional. Nicely done.

LGHumphrey
08-21-2008, 04:07 PM
WC, excellent!

I did a quickstudy oilsketch this morning, trying to capture one of Zorn's selfportraits.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Aug-2008/60616-P1020373.JPG

LGHumphrey
08-22-2008, 02:31 PM
And here's today's oil sketch of his portrait of Hugo Reisinger, 1907. The original is in the NGA in Washington DC.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Aug-2008/60616-P1020379.JPG

Grotius
08-22-2008, 06:16 PM
Great work, Lawrence!

!becca
08-22-2008, 07:06 PM
WC, Lawrence, nicely done.:thumbsup:

aquarianpaintress
08-22-2008, 08:11 PM
Hi, Carey. This is the first MOM I have looked at. He is great! So textural and sensual--you feel like you could splash your hand in the water or feel the tickle of the pine needles. I agree with Kong above--the water is amazing. :~) I've just started here, and apparently this is a terrific service you offer to members, Carey. So from my first one, thanks.

Smokin
08-24-2008, 01:05 PM
Here (http://12.151.120.44/works_of_art/collection_database/all/listview.aspx?page=1&sort=0&sortdir=asc&keyword=zorn&fp=1&dd1=0&dd2=0&vw=1) are a few images from the Met's collection and one image you can zoom into to see all the details here (http://12.151.120.44/works_of_art/collection_database/all/frieda_schiff_1876_1958_later_mrs_felix_m_warburg/objectview.aspx?page=1&sort=0&sortdir=asc&keyword=zorn&fp=1&dd1=0&dd2=0&vw=1&collID=0&OID=110002417&vT=1).

LGHumphrey
08-24-2008, 05:20 PM
Thanks Grotius and !becca.

Another quickstudy, (too quick I think, why can't I slow down?)


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/24-Aug-2008/60616-P1020419.JPG

WC Lee
08-24-2008, 06:13 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/24-Aug-2008/122017-sketch01352.jpg

oil on board, 5 x 7
with slight variation of the Zorn palette consisting of titanium white, yellow ochre, venetian red, and paynes gray.

Rosic
08-24-2008, 07:21 PM
Bravo LG and WC... nice work indeed!

LGHumphrey
08-25-2008, 04:23 PM
Nice work as always, WC.

All my stuff is 40X30 cm., (16X12 inches), oil on unstretched canvas. Here's another.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Aug-2008/60616-P1020416.JPG

LGHumphrey
08-27-2008, 05:01 PM
"In Werner's Rowboat" 1917.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Aug-2008/60616-P1020421.JPG

kwg
08-27-2008, 11:38 PM
Another quickstudy, (too quick I think, why can't I slow down?)

I love your style Lawrence! Don't change your pace, you'll spoil your natural flow (IMHO).

LGHumphrey
08-30-2008, 05:11 PM
Karen, great to see you again, and thanks for the advice. When are we going to see your Zorn?

Here's one of his society ladies.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Aug-2008/60616-P1020424.JPG

Wattano
08-31-2008, 11:13 AM
I didn't they had these challenges. Nice idea

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa155/brightlantern/andrszorn.jpg

!becca
08-31-2008, 11:52 AM
WC, wonderful.:clap:

Lawrence, you have been very productive. Great pieces.:clap:

Wattano, lovely lady.:clap:

LGHumphrey
08-31-2008, 02:19 PM
Wattano, very nice indeed.

Here's my version of Zorn's Kitchen Maid.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/31-Aug-2008/60616-P1020434.JPG

Wattano
08-31-2008, 05:07 PM
Thank you.

Wattano
09-02-2008, 11:55 PM
LG I would go heavy with the paint or impasto. Juts as a trial one. for one painting. Have fun

LGHumphrey
09-05-2008, 04:24 PM
Thanks for the comments, folks. Wattano, I'd love to be able to paint like you say, one day soon I hope.

Here's a copy of Zorn's portrait of "Elizabeth Sherman Cameron."

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Sep-2008/60616-P1020440.JPG .

Wattano
09-06-2008, 12:14 AM
Nice keep it up. I like your work habits.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa155/brightlantern/zornlady2.jpg

mawdwyn
09-06-2008, 12:53 PM
Nice work, Wattano! I've been struggling with the same painting, and was going to post an update when I saw your version. I really got off to a bad start with mine, but didn't want to waste the canvas, so I kept going, even though it doesn't look like her. I still need to do the clothes and fix the hair, eyes, mouth...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Sep-2008/116300-zorn-dana2.jpg

Wattano
09-06-2008, 03:49 PM
I like it the paint handling and the character in the paintstrokes Madywn. a lot of life in it. here's the early version of my try

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa155/brightlantern/zorngirl2.jpg

mawdwyn
09-07-2008, 10:43 PM
Thank you, Wattano. And thanks for showing your earlier version. It's always interesting to see how other artists go about the painting process. Good job on keeping it loose - more like Zorn's style. I'm getting real close to the "working it to death" stage on mine!

abhie
09-08-2008, 01:24 AM
My entree to this thread.
Did this yesterday. Took me about three hours.
The only reference image was a small jpeg I got off artrenewal.org.
More images on my blog (link in sig).
I used the Zorn palette, but the original painting seems to have more yellow than usual , so I added a bit of Cad Yellow, and although I tried to make the green that Zorn used, I couldnt get the right hue, so I used a bit of sap green to the formula.


Study copy of Anders Zorn for WetCanvas
Kvinna som klär sig [Woman dressing]
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Sep-2008/53615-FINI-WEB.jpg

Here is a photoshop comp of the Zorn Palette:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Sep-2008/53615-full-orignl-WEB.jpg

abhie
09-08-2008, 03:00 AM
The final painting:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Sep-2008/53615-FINAL-WEB.jpg

LGHumphrey
09-08-2008, 05:40 PM
A beautiful painting nicely done, congratulations abhie.

jadehart
09-08-2008, 08:29 PM
The final painting:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Sep-2008/53615-FINAL-WEB.jpg

Wow! This turned out VERY nice.

abhie
09-08-2008, 10:42 PM
Thank you Lawrence and Jessica.
Actually the final image I posted above is much lighter.
The image of the painting on the easel has the right tones.
I didnt notice this yesterday.
Thank you for your comments.:thumbsup:

Here is the image with the right tones:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Sep-2008/53615-Final-DRK_WEB.jpg

Antuanetta
09-10-2008, 11:22 AM
I want to show what I did from Zorn, sorry. Oil on canvas 40x70.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Sep-2008/146224-1041;1072;1085;1085;1086;-1087;1088;1072;1095;1077;1095;1085;1099;1081;_1082;1086;1084;1087;1083;1077;1082;1089;_401093;70.JPG :wink2:

Antuanetta
09-10-2008, 11:35 AM
And the next work.... Oil on canvas 40x53 :confused: http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Sep-2008/146224-1055;1086;_1084;1086;1090;1080;1074;1091;_1062;1086;1088;1085;1072;__401093;53.JPG

Antuanetta
09-10-2008, 11:40 AM
It is my last work. Oil on canvas 40x65http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Sep-2008/146224-1076;1072;1084;1072;_401093;65.JPG

LGHumphrey
09-10-2008, 04:31 PM
Antuanetta, so happy to see you here! Please post the other 5 that you put on another thread, they are equally lovely.

Antuanetta
09-11-2008, 06:21 AM
Thank you for the kind words. I post my preceding work with pleasure. This is one of the first works, the attempt to copy water-colour picture with the oil. I want say, that the qualitative reproductions are inaccessible for me, so I take a reproduction from net and print with Epson 220. This process, as rule, results in the distortion of the colours, especially in shotwave part of the spectrum. I am not artist, I am biologist, so the names of majority of the colours I know only on my own language. This is the reason why I can say nothing about used palette.:crying: http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Sep-2008/146224-1076;1086;1078;1076;1100;_1087;1086;1089;1083;.JPG
Oil on cardboard 40x50.

Antuanetta
09-11-2008, 06:25 AM
Oil on cardboard 40x60http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Sep-2008/146224-1042;1077;1095;1077;1088;_1074;_1051;1072;1087;1083;1072;1085;1076;1080;1080;.JPG

Antuanetta
09-11-2008, 06:43 AM
Oil on cardboard 40x60http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Sep-2008/146224-1056;1099;1073;1072;1082;1080;.JPG

Antuanetta
09-11-2008, 06:48 AM
Oil on canvas 40x50http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Sep-2008/146224-1056;1072;1079;1084;1086;1083;1074;1082;1072;.JPG

Antuanetta
09-11-2008, 06:53 AM
Oil on canvas 42x60http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Sep-2008/146224-1050;1091;1087;1072;1085;1100;1077;_1074;_1089;1082;1072;1083;1072;1093;.JPG

LGHumphrey
09-11-2008, 03:59 PM
Lovely paintings, Antuanetta, if you tell us the names of the colours in your language I bet we'll be able to figure out what they are in English.

!becca
09-11-2008, 04:05 PM
abhie, beautiful portrait. Very well done.

Antuanetta, a wonderful collection of your work. A delight to see.

Thank you both for sharing.

abhie
09-11-2008, 11:10 PM
Thanks for the comments Ibecca.:thumbsup:

Antuanetta
09-12-2008, 12:39 AM
Lovely paintings, Antuanetta, if you tell us the names of the colours in your language I bet we'll be able to figure out what they are in English.

Thank you very much! The names of colours on my language: белила титановые, виноградная черная, охра желтая, краплак, ультрамарин светлый, кадмий желтый светлый, русская зеленая, лазурь железная, умбра натуральная, умбра жженая, неаполитанская розовая, марганцевая фиолетовая. That's all, I think.

LGHumphrey
09-12-2008, 02:23 PM
Antuanetta, you're using Titanium White, Black, Yellow Ochre, Ultramarine Blue Light, Cadmium Yellow Light, Russian Green, Laser Iron (a grey perhaps?), Raw Umber, Burnt Umber, Neapolitan Pink, and Manganese Violet. I don't know what kraplak is.

You said in that first post that you are not an artist but it is obvious that you are a very good one, so please keep posting.

Antuanetta
09-12-2008, 03:21 PM
Lawrence, thank you! Краплак is as a beet, dark-dark red. It is pleasure to read that I am a very good one. But I estimate myself beneath criticism.

Wattano
09-13-2008, 12:46 AM
all nice Antuanetta. You have a nice collection.

LGHumphrey
09-20-2008, 03:10 PM
Here's a H&S study of "Elizabeth Sherman Cameron," (the one I posted 2 weeks ago.)


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Sep-2008/60616-P1020443.JPG

!becca
09-20-2008, 10:09 PM
Very nice, Lawrence. Thanks for your contributions.

LGHumphrey
09-24-2008, 03:43 PM
This is after "Helga."

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/24-Sep-2008/60616-P1020444.JPG

LGHumphrey
09-30-2008, 02:56 PM
Here's my version of Emma Zorn reading the paper.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Sep-2008/60616-P1020450.JPG

LGHumphrey
10-11-2008, 04:25 PM
And here's my version of Zorn's "Woman Dressing."


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Oct-2008/60616-P1020453.JPG

!becca
10-11-2008, 04:38 PM
Lawrence, you pulls the stops out for color on this one, great paintings, all of them.

LGHumphrey
10-12-2008, 02:00 PM
Thanks Becca.

I wonder what the next MOM is going to be.

Rosic
10-12-2008, 08:37 PM
I wonder what the next MOM is going to be.

Good point Lawrence...

any suggestions or takers on launching a new MOM....

TheBaron
10-12-2008, 10:10 PM
Good point Lawrence...

any suggestions or takers on launching a new MOM....

I bet you have never considered LS Lowery. :p

Cormhag
10-13-2008, 10:40 AM
Well, I know I'm a new member of the forum but I've watched for ages and would love to try one of these. I wouldn't mind something seriously technical and light and shade driven. Something along the lines of Caravaggio but I'm sure he's probably been done to death! Anyway, I won't infringe on you too much but that's my two cents:o

TheBaron
10-13-2008, 09:10 PM
Well, I know I'm a new member of the forum but I've watched for ages and would love to try one of these. I wouldn't mind something seriously technical and light and shade driven. Something along the lines of Caravaggio but I'm sure he's probably been done to death! Anyway, I won't infringe on you too much but that's my two cents:o

You've been following Bernie around...he's a Caravan admirer too. :D

Carey Griffel
10-14-2008, 06:24 AM
Sorry for the delay about the MOM this month, all! I've been a little stumped on ideas to tell you the truth.

Cormhag, seriously technical? Hmm. We could give that a shot (and let it run for a while as that would likely take some work and time for a lot of people, especially with busy holidays coming up).

Okay. Two come to mind off the top of my head (and we haven't done them before, likely because it's kinda scary and *very* daunting! :lol: )...how about Leonardo DaVinci or Michaelangelo? Any takers?

~!Carey

Rosic
10-14-2008, 08:41 AM
You've been following Bernie around...he's a Caravan admirer too. :D

:evil: ... ahhhh George... you remembered. Thanks for introducing me to LS Lowery.

Caravaggio was one of the first MOM's but could be done again...

DaVinci or Michaelangelo... I don't think have ever been done in the MOM series... good choices Carey.

Cormhag
10-14-2008, 11:18 AM
It would be fun, no doubt! The only thing is that despite them being possibly the most famous artists ever, there are only a handful of works by them!

Carey Griffel
10-14-2008, 01:38 PM
Well, admittedly there might be fewer oil paintings...but we could also interpret other media into oil paintings (sketches, statues, frescos, etc). In fact, that might be a fun challenge to introduce.

More thoughts anyone?

~!Carey

LGHumphrey
10-14-2008, 03:25 PM
Leonardo sounds good to me.

Rosic
10-14-2008, 09:36 PM
Leda and the Swan... (http://www.paintinghere.com/painting/Leda_and_the_Swan_90.html) a WINNER...

Leonardo sounds good to me too!

A cool twist could be to paint some of his drawings and inventions in oils...

Carey Griffel
10-15-2008, 05:33 AM
I'm partial towards a Leonardo challenge myself. We'll do it! And I love the challenge of painting some drawings, inventions, and the like.

Okay, I'm short on time today, I will get to this as soon as I can (unless someone else wants to start it up and I will backup with some information, you are most welcome to do so, otherwise it likely won't be til tomorrow until I can get things together...in any case, if anyone wants to have some links or info ready, or to get an early bird start, please feel free!)

~!Carey

LGHumphrey
10-15-2008, 02:32 PM
Cousin Bernie, love that idea of doing oil versions of some of his drawings, count me in. La Scapigliata, here I come.

griffster
12-31-2008, 11:21 AM
This looks really great! I would like to participate in a project like this eventually!