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Bugdiddley
06-13-2008, 10:30 PM
Hi. Not a newbee exactly, but a lurker for a while, then no computer for another stretch of time.

Though I usually use (mostly) Caran d'Ache OPs, I saw a sale on Erengi's that caught my eye-- the 96 color portable wooden box. Since everything I do is en plein air, portability and convenience are a plus. Additionally the color selection was, I thought, attractive.

However, when I searched the site I found no strong opinions of the Erengi brand at all. There was an interesting comparison of hardnesses, but beyond that nothing too technical.

Have any of you posters had a greater opportunity to evaluate the Erengi's in recent times? How do they mix/blend? Do they flake or break or melt easily? I'd really appreciate any additional information.

Thanks,

Bug

Bugdiddley
06-13-2008, 10:34 PM
Sorry for posting this in the OP Society section. I clicked on the wrong prompt. Can some generous moderator take pity on me and move it to the appropriate place?

Sorry,

Bug

Pat Isaac
06-14-2008, 07:58 AM
Hi bug and welcome to the forum...:wave: I moved your thread to the talk forum where it will get more attention. I haven't used the Erengis, but many have, especially our guide Bill. He has the complete set and really likes them. Hopefully he will give you a full description when he sees this. He is presently away, but gets on line daily.

Pat

Scarefishcrow
06-14-2008, 07:36 PM
Hi bug and welcome to the forum...:wave: I moved your thread to the talk forum where it will get more attention. I haven't used the Erengis, but many have, especially our guide Bill. He has the complete set and really likes them. Hopefully he will give you a full description when he sees this. He is presently away, but gets on line daily.

Pat

Well, tries to get on line daily:rolleyes: , somehow Starbucks wasn't cooperating yesterday and I surrendered!

Anyway, I have the Erengis and have used them. I must warn you I'm not a professional or anything like that, but was, up until February, a lurker myself!! Anyway, with that caveat, I personally like the Erengi very much. I have to say, at the risk of boring some old hands that have heard me say this before, it really depends on what you want to do as to what brand is best for you. It is a very personal preference and, in fact, Leslie's out of print book on oil pastel begins by stating that ideally an OP artist should have a complete set of every artist grade brand to take advantage of the full spectrum of its versatility!

The following links are to some posts I made in a thread I started to develop color charts for the brands of OP I have. The first is to a series of photos of the OP's themselves (fullset) and the second has selected color swatches of about 30+ of them next to craypas specialists and a few NeoPastels.

http://wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6660895&postcount=27
http://wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6666231&postcount=31

They are about the same size and shape as the NeoPastels (one of my personal favorite brands) and while not completely the same in texture and application, my personal opinion is that they are about as close in working characteristics to the Neops as any of the artist quality brands come.

I will have to find the threads, but some of the work I have posted has been in Erengi and I will try and post links to those threads later.

I think if you like Neops you will probably find this a suitable less expensive alternative. I would suggest that you go to Jerrys Artarama where you can order a FREE set of 4 sticks to try out!!! That way you can decide for yourself if you like them before committing to the set purchase!

The box in well designed, very similar that of the craypas specialists, but the hinges on the lid do not allow the top to be opened beyond a 90 degree vertical, so you can't use it to hold the second tray like you can with the Craypas Specialist wood box set. A minor inconvenience but might be of some concern to you as a plein air artist!

If there are any other questions, just let me know.

Look forward to seeing some of your work posted!!

Bill
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Bugdiddley
06-15-2008, 08:38 AM
Thanks, Pat, for moving my misposted query. And, Bill, thanks for your specifics.

It is indeed interesting to note restriction on the box hinges. It's also pretty exciting to have a economical alternative. I think I'll take your suggestion about a trialing several Erengi OP's before taking a plunge.

It might be a while before I can post any pictures as I'm a digital dunce: I was given a camera earlier in the year, and we have one of those of those scanner/fax/copier machines, but I haven't spent the time to figure out how to use either of them yet.

Bug

Scarefishcrow
06-16-2008, 03:49 PM
No problem, Bug! Glad we could help. If you figure the camera or scanner out and need some help uploading the images or info on size restrictions there are some links to info in my signature line that might be useful.

BILL