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Unni
02-20-2001, 05:32 AM
Hello all,

I am new to wetcanvas and admit to have found this forum very informative.

I have a question on Lee Hammond's book on Pencil drawing. I found her work very interesting at http://leehammond.freeservers.com/index2.html. (http://leehammond.freeservers.com/index2.html) What does anyone think of her book titled "HOW TO DRAW LIFELIKE PORTRAIT FROM PHOTOGRAPHS"?

I am thinking of buying one on hearing from wetcanvas. Or if anyone could suggest a better book, I would appreciate that very much.

Unni

[This message has been edited by Unni (edited February 20, 2001).]

berkking
02-20-2001, 12:00 PM
Hi Unni,

A warm welcome to WetCanvas! This is an awesome experience all by itself.

I visited the web link you posted. There were a few drawings and CP works but it would be difficult to determine what to think by just a few pictures. However Mrs Hammond is obviously very skilled with a pencil. Perhaps you could post some more messages so we are able to understand what it is that you are trying to answer.

Welcome again. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

Nik

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Sandi
02-20-2001, 12:41 PM
I have that one. There are all kinds of insider tips she shares about cp. She also shares lots of valuable information that is transferable to other subjects as well. ie...her skin tone transition exercises are a must for many subjects/styles/mediums.
I don't know how it compares to other portrait books however.

Keith Russell
02-20-2001, 10:07 PM
Greetings:

This isn't a book on portraits, per se; but instead it's a book on figure drawing in pencil, and it's excellent, one of my favourites:

"The Artist's Complete Guide to Figure Drawing" by Anthony Ryder.

Keith.

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kayemme
02-24-2001, 12:57 AM
in my opinion, lee hammond's work is plastic and generic.

i've seen (her!) books around and i can always tell that she's done them because they all look the same.

do yourself a favor.
get a mirror. sit in front of it. look at yourself. draw what you see.

then, if you want to draw from photographs you'll have the knowledge base of life drawing behind you.

good luck.

k

Unni
07-13-2001, 04:54 AM
Thanks for ur response. I think one would do justice to refer some good materials/books before venturing into sitting in front of a mirror and drawing what u see. It's not that easy Kayemme.

Thanks anyway.

Unni

arourapope
07-13-2001, 02:20 PM
Actually Unni, I think Keyemme's advice is very good. I use photos alot now mainly for convenience, but spent many years prior to this drawing from life. Working with a live model helps interpret photos in many ways.....for example, your eyes have the ability to let in more light when looking into shadows. A camera doesn't. Drawing from life gives you the practical experience of observation; when working from a photo later, you can guess a bit at what is in that patch of utter darkness that appears in the photo, and give it more dimensionality than if you just painted (or drew it) as utter darkness. Does that make sense at all?
Also, there are inherit problems with working from a 2 dimensional object that can be overcome alot easier if you have the practical "from life" experience behind you.
I don't know how much color work you intend to include, but colors in photos are seldom (if ever) really true to life. Hence, the difficulty in photographing paintings. If you approach a photo reference with the experience of having worked from life first, than you can infer what you're looking at better.
Good luck, and let us know how it goes!
Aurora
ps. In all fairness, though, I have never seen the book you are asking about, btw.

Ivyleaf
07-13-2001, 04:57 PM
Unni:

You may also want to try posting your question in the Drawing forum...or maybe the Portrait forum...or perhaps the Figure forum, since not everyone comes into debates.

Good luck on your quest!

TeAnne
07-13-2001, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Unni
Hello all,

I am new to wetcanvas and admit to have found this forum very informative.

I have a question on Lee Hammond's book on Pencil drawing. I found her work very interesting at http://leehammond.freeservers.com/index2.html. (http://leehammond.freeservers.com/index2.html) What does anyone think of her book titled "HOW TO DRAW LIFELIKE PORTRAIT FROM PHOTOGRAPHS"?

I am thinking of buying one on hearing from wetcanvas. Or if anyone could suggest a better book, I would appreciate that very much.

Unni

[This message has been edited by Unni (edited February 20, 2001).] I clicked on your link and this is all I can get.
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Possible Reasons:
You may have spelled the URL incorrectly.
This site may have been removed due to a violation of Freeserver's
"Acceptable Use Policy".
This site may have been moved to a different server.

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Pen
07-14-2001, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by Unni
Hello all,

I have a question on Lee Hammond's book on Pencil drawing. I found her work very interesting at http://leehammond.freeservers.com/index2.html. (http://leehammond.freeservers.com/index2.html) What does anyone think of her book titled "HOW TO DRAW LIFELIKE PORTRAIT FROM PHOTOGRAPHS"?

Unni



I have one of her books on colored pencil portraits, and though she certainly has some good instruction in it, there's something about her work that I don't like. I guess it's on the verge of cartoonish to me. I much prefer Ann Kullberg.

http://www.annkullberg.com/index.htm

Rod
07-14-2001, 04:40 AM
I am reading the book
"HOW TO DRAW LIFELIKE PORTRAIT FROM PHOTOGRAPHS"?
at the moment, 132 pages of information.
Some very good examles and step by steps although some of the finished portraits look at little stiff, heres a page from the book that will give you an idea.

Another book I found useful was ,
" The Artists complete guide to Figure Drawing " by Anthony Ryder
Rod

scottb
07-14-2001, 09:08 AM
Moving this over to the Portraiture forum ... :)

journey341
07-16-2001, 03:54 PM
Well, I just guess I have to disagree about Lee Hammonds book. AS A BEGINNER, I think it is a FABULOUS book... I think it is important to use it only as a PROCESS however, not an end result. BUT, having said that... this book was my BIBLE for a long time....There is always time to develop your own style...this book is good for TECHNIQUES.. especially the shading aspect and the idea of gradiated tonal values. I didn't "get" it before reading that book and practicing.

Here is an example of a before/after of the same drawing. ALL of the improvement is based on the techniques I learned in her book.

I highly recommend it for the beginning "realist" graphite portrait artist.

Jodie

journey341
07-16-2001, 03:55 PM
Here is the "after"

Jodie

Unni
07-19-2001, 01:16 PM
Thanks everyone for the responses.

aurorapope, I agree with your suggestion of working from life though it's a lot more difficult for beginners in art.

Ivyleaf, I do not know if it is possible to move this to the debates forum (may be the moderator can only do it).

TeAnne, I get the same error message now. Let me see if I can locate the new URL for you.

Pen, thanks for your response.

Rod, I understand that you like the book.

Journey341, I can see the difference in your work after you went through the book.

Well everybody, I received the book in question and admit that it is a really good one. Basically, it gives step-by-step instructions on how to work with every part of the human body. Once you learn the technique adopted by Lee Hammond, you could improve further and finally get to the technique that suits you best. After all, books only assist you in developing new techniques that you do not know about, and once you master them it's you who finally adopt those techiques. I believe that one can succeed only by "practice and practice" (that's what Lee mentions at the beginning of each chapter in the book).

Thanks anyway for everyone who made contribution to this query.

Unni

geckonia
07-23-2001, 01:13 AM
http://208.56.253.82/index.html
http://www.leehammond.com

Unni
07-23-2001, 07:36 AM
Thanks Ann for the web site reference.

Unni