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Chloe_1
03-31-2008, 11:25 AM
Welcome to the April 2009 Oil Pastel Monthly Challenge. I am posting one day early because I will be working tomorrow, and won't be able to post during the day. I know some of you may get itchy fingers,and start earlier.:) We will be supplying two photos for you to attempt. You can do one or both. Be creative with the images - you can crop them, change colours, interpret them in any way you like. Post your completed paintings in THIS thread for everyone to see. And remember to comment on other people's work. Best of all have fun!

1.SWAN
The picture of this beautiful swan was taken in Steveston B.C. a little fishing village.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/31-Mar-2008/68155-IMG_2275Swan_from_Steveston.JPG

2.HENS AND CHICKS
This plant is a succulent plant from my garden.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/31-Mar-2008/68155-IMG_07002.Hens__Chicks_from_my__patio.JPG

Pat Isaac
03-31-2008, 04:28 PM
Thanks so much for hosting this month, Mariette. Great photos to work from.

Pat

sundiver
04-01-2008, 05:40 AM
Ooo, they're both gorgeous!

Shirl Parker
04-01-2008, 10:21 AM
These are great, I might have to do both!

Chloe_1
04-01-2008, 08:30 PM
Hi Pat, Wendy and Lueur. Looking forward to see what you all come up with:cat:

AnnieA
04-02-2008, 10:43 PM
Chloe: These are just gorgeous photos! I don't ordinarily take part in these monthly challenges but these are really tempting! Thanks for hosting.

Chloe_1
04-02-2008, 10:55 PM
Hi Annie.. welcome aboard;-)))

Bars
04-03-2008, 03:14 AM
What beautiful pictures, so hard to choose, then why choose, I might try both, count me in Bars

Chloe_1
04-03-2008, 08:46 AM
Hi Bars.. looking forward your rendition;-)))

tyree
04-03-2008, 09:30 PM
hi chloe!!!! great pics to choose from...think ill try that swan!! tyree:heart:

sparkling
04-04-2008, 03:35 PM
Chloe, these photos are so beautiful, they are pieces of artwork themselves :).

Chloe_1
04-04-2008, 05:33 PM
Hi tyree ,sparkling.

serenasocean
04-04-2008, 11:34 PM
Hi Chloe,

Thanks for hosting this month! These photos are lovely... you don't by chance have larger images? Are they in the RIL?

Thanks!

eyepaint
04-04-2008, 11:55 PM
Lovely photos! I'm in!! :)

Scarefishcrow
04-05-2008, 01:16 AM
I already have the swan sketched out and ready to color!:clap:

:music: :heart: :music:

truck driver
04-05-2008, 01:22 AM
Two takes on the swan. neither are finished yet
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Apr-2008/136518-04-04-08_2200.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Apr-2008/136518-04-04-08_2205.jpg

Chloe_1
04-05-2008, 02:13 AM
Hi serenasocean,eyepaint and scarefishcrow.
No I don't have a bigger photo serenasocean. Is it to small?
It looks quite big on my screen.

Chloe_1
04-05-2008, 02:15 AM
Nice start on the swan truck driver.. I like the curve in the neck on the first one, and the second one has a feeling of forward movement.

Bars
04-05-2008, 03:13 AM
:wave: Hi Bill like you I have done the sketch of Sir Swan,Choel, I can't wait to see what I'm going to do either:lol: The background has got me stumped. I see Truck driver is onto a good start. Must get on with it Bars:cat:

Bars
04-05-2008, 03:15 AM
Sorry Cloe, for the misspelling of your name. Callt a Senior moment. Bars

eyepaint
04-05-2008, 12:10 PM
Here's the swan. Sennelier on 9x12" Fabriano Ingres paper.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Apr-2008/96240-IMGP2847.JPG

Cheers,

Pat Isaac
04-05-2008, 12:25 PM
Rg, great start on these. I like the gesture on the first swan and the second looks as if he sees something that he needs to go after.
EP, nice OP painting....strong statement.

Pat

Chloe_1
04-05-2008, 12:56 PM
Very strong painting Eyepaint..Nice shapes!!


I've been working on the Hens and Chicks. It's on Colorfix paper 6x6.. Done with Sennelier and Holbein. Tweeking quite a bit on this one.. Comments and suggestions. Thanks for looking!

This was my initial painting, and picture was taken at night time, and looks truer to the colors.
1.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Apr-2008/68155-IMG_2459Hen_and_Chicks_Pastel_Challenge_for_March.JPG

This was done with more tweeking, and I added more reddish colors, and I feel I should of kept with the colors above. The pic was taken in daytime, and makes the background lighter.
2.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Apr-2008/68155-IMG_2464.JPG

Pat I switched the image around . I know you mean the number one picture.:cat:

Pat Isaac
04-05-2008, 01:01 PM
I really like the second image. You have captured the light very well.

Pat

Scarefishcrow
04-05-2008, 01:50 PM
RG: Great start. I like the color and curve in the neck of the left image. The second has a more abstract feel but interesting to see where you go with them!

Bars: I did a crop in on the head and upper part of the body and tweaked it a little with some computer manipulations and got some ideas for color scheme.

EP: Wow. Very nice swan pic. You didn't even have to figure out how to use your blue this time, did you? The picture was made for you. I really like the way you handled the water and the gradation from light to dark. Almost an impressionist feel.

Chloe: I'm not sure, now which to call one and which to call two, but as they appear to me on screen the first image is much brighter and I like the bold, bright colors and especially the yellows. The second is also good and is a more muted version. I think I understand what you mean about the light. I hope you don't mind, but I tried to correct the lighting to see what you were talking about with the darker background. I attached the uncorrected and corrected image. Is the corrected one closer to what the real one looks like? If so, both of them work but each sets a different mood to me.

Attached are the original image that appears second in your post and a version of that same image I tried a light equalization on. Is the second closer to the actual pic?

Bill
:music: :heart: :music:

eyepaint
04-05-2008, 02:01 PM
truck driver - I like the colours in the swan in your first picture, and the colours in your water in the second picture.
Pat - thank you
Chloe_1 - thank you :) I like your hens and chicks with the stronger contrast, brighter yellows, and darker background - I can't keep track of which is first or second :)
Bill - hehe - thank you. I really like impressionist work... and that of the fauves too... Anything that's not super detailed.

Cheers,

Shirl Parker
04-05-2008, 02:53 PM
Everybody's is looking good. I especially like that bright Hens N Chicks by Chloe.

I decided to try something different for me this month, and I have toned the background of my colorfix with watercolor, so I thought I would start this as a WIP, in case anyone's interested.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Apr-2008/113427-P1000691.JPG

This was done with Daniel Smith Prussian Blue (in honor of EP) :lol: :lol:

Pat Isaac
04-05-2008, 03:53 PM
I'm interested....and I think your blue in honor of EP is great...:lol:

Pat

Shirl Parker
04-05-2008, 03:59 PM
I added some blue shadows on the swan, and a layer of OP on the background, using Workstation OPs which came out of a book. No blending yet.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Apr-2008/113427-P1000692.JPG

eyepaint
04-05-2008, 04:00 PM
I'm interested....and I think your blue in honor of EP is great...:lol:

Me too :)

Pat Isaac
04-05-2008, 04:00 PM
What are workstation OPs?

Pat

Shirl Parker
04-05-2008, 04:35 PM
Me too :)

EP, Me too, you're interested in the WIP or Me Too, you think it's great that the blue is in your honor? :lol: :lol: :lol:

What are workstation OPs?

Pat

I ordered a used book called "Oil Pastels Workstation" by Jane Hughes and I had to order it from three different used book vendors through Amazon before it actually came. And beside some very basic instruction in using OPs, it contained 16 oil pastels labeled "Workstation" and some odd-sized paper of various colors bound into the book but with a perforation for removing it. I really like the OPs, as cheap OPs go, and I've tried to find a way to get more, but no luck so far.

I just got an itchy eye, and I gave it a pleasant scratch only to pull my finger back and discover my fingernail was full of blue OP. I don't think it's a good thing to use OP as eyeliner. :lol: :lol:

Pat Isaac
04-05-2008, 04:44 PM
Thanks for the info...I had never heard of that book. Blue OP liner...:lol: maybe you could start a new fashion trend..

Pat

Pat Isaac
04-05-2008, 04:50 PM
Shirl, I did a search on that book and I guess that is the only one like it and it can be obtained through various sources, like Amazon, but there is no mention anywhere of the brand of OPs.

Pat

Shirl Parker
04-05-2008, 05:28 PM
Here's some blending with a color shaper. I want to get the stroking going with the flow of the water at the top once I get a little lighter color up there and I think some tinge of violet/red from the light that's putting that pink on the swan's head and neck.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Apr-2008/113427-P1000694.JPG

Pat Isaac
04-05-2008, 05:32 PM
Looking good.

Pat

Shirl Parker
04-05-2008, 06:30 PM
Running out of light for the day and time to feed my best girl and take her for a walk, so this will be the last for today. I got some base white OP over the body and got some of the head/beak done. Lots of colors to add for shadows plus the water work mentioned above.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Apr-2008/113427-P1000695.JPG

Pat Isaac
04-05-2008, 06:36 PM
This is coming along just great, Shirl. Nice rich color.

Pat

Chloe_1
04-05-2008, 08:22 PM
Looking good Lueur. Great colors in the face area, and that little drop of water adds a little more character.

truck driver
04-06-2008, 01:15 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Apr-2008/136518-04-05-08_2155.jpg

o.k. heres the flower, first one I have ever done.

RG

Shirl Parker
04-06-2008, 08:52 AM
Good job RG. All those petals are tough.

Pat Isaac
04-06-2008, 10:07 AM
Nice first, RG and you are right about getting all those petals together, Shirl.

Pat

Chloe_1
04-06-2008, 10:38 AM
Way to go RG.. congrats on your very first flower! :thumbsup:

serenasocean
04-06-2008, 01:56 PM
Gosh, everyone's work looks great!

Chloe, no worries about the larger image.

Thanks :)

Shirl Parker
04-06-2008, 03:26 PM
Here is the current stage of my swan

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Apr-2008/113427-P1000701.JPG

Pat Isaac
04-06-2008, 03:42 PM
looking good. I really like all the nuances of color on the swan.

Pat

Chloe_1
04-06-2008, 08:56 PM
WoW Lueur.. This looks very nice so far!!

Scarefishcrow
04-07-2008, 01:30 AM
Thanks for the info...I had never heard of that book. Blue OP liner...:lol: maybe you could start a new fashion trend..

Pat

Actually, I have that book, too!

:music: :heart: :music:

Scarefishcrow
04-07-2008, 01:38 AM
RG--Good job on the flower.

Shirl-- After seeing your swan looking so good and not even finished, I'm ready to chicken out on posting mine since it didn't come out like I had hoped! Head's a little out of proportion and just couldn't get the hues mingled with the white to come out right so it ended up rather drab. However, since my resolution was to do all of these this year, I'm going to swallow my pride (oh, yeah. Forgot, I ran out of that a long time ago from have to swallow so much of it!)....and post it anyway. I feel my confidence waning on this one! 140# Strathmore watercolor paper with Gouache underpaining, holbein and senn overpainting. (Maybe I need crummy pastels to do good work???)

Bill
:music: :heart: :music:

Bars
04-07-2008, 04:14 AM
:wave: Hi gang, here is attempt, not quite finished yet, but thought I would post it to get your comments Bars:cat:

Bars
04-07-2008, 04:26 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Apr-2008/119075-resize_swan

Pat Isaac
04-07-2008, 07:26 AM
Bill, the swan is fine and you are doing very well. I probably wouldn't have put so much white into the water, but the swan coloring is just nice.
Bars, nice take on the water, it alsmost reminds me of rain. I like all your swan colors, though the yellow may be a little bright.

Pat

Shirl Parker
04-07-2008, 08:32 AM
Bill and Bars, those are both nice swans.

Bill, you might want to rethink your eye placement. It's really hard to see in the photo, but the eye is up in that little peak of black. I had to go looking for swan closeup photos to be sure where it was and there aren't many which give a good look at the eye. Here's one.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Apr-2008/113427-swan32b.jpg

Making the correction is not really important, but if you want to practice trying it, this is a chance. You can gently scrape off where it is with an exacto knife or something similar.

diquattrom
04-07-2008, 09:26 AM
Hello everyone. Great renditions of both the swan and flower.

Here is my contribution this month.

Scarefishcrow
04-07-2008, 11:54 AM
Bill and Bars, those are both nice swans.

Bill, you might want to rethink your eye placement. It's really hard to see in the photo, but the eye is up in that little peak of black. I had to go looking for swan closeup photos to be sure where it was and there aren't many which give a good look at the eye. Here's one.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Apr-2008/113427-swan32b.jpg

Making the correction is not really important, but if you want to practice trying it, this is a chance. You can gently scrape off where it is with an exacto knife or something similar.

Yes, I had trouble locating the eye. (:o :o as a biologist. I was too lazy to go get the field guide and check it out!!:o :o )

Pat--The white (you probably already know) is the sign of the last desperate attempts to salvage what one sees as a cause that is not turning out as one wanted it too! i.e., act of a desperate artist, scumble white over everything and call it impressionism!!!!! You are so polite, though, in your comment "I probably wouldn't have put as much white in the water." You had to be chuckling to yourself just a tad as you wrote such a politic understatement...:lol: ), I figure we have our good days and bad days, that one was so so.

Bars, Shirl, Michele: I have swan envy!!!!! :envy: :envy:

Bill
:music: :heart: :music:

AngelaF
04-07-2008, 11:59 AM
Alot of good work in a week!!!

RG - I like the colors in your first swan -- look very true to the photo. I like the water -- the light on the water is great -- in your second swan OP. You did good work on getting those petals drawn in the flower.

EP - Lovely colors, I like the expressiveness and quickly rendered look of your painting very much.

Chloe -- Both of your flower images look very nice, just different moods as has been said. I personally like the high contrast of the yellows and red in the night time shot.

Shirl -- your work in progress if very interesting. The background really works -- the whole painting is so luminescent! I like the drop of water, too -- I like how you reversed the composition.

Bill -- Though you got some suggestions about the eye placement, I do like the draftmanship you put into the head and eye. I like the highlight and roundness you achieved in the eye. Maybe Pat's observation about the white in the blue is what seemed to be throwing you off -- I couldn't put my finger on it, but that may be it.

Bars - I like the dark interpretation of the water and the way you made all the feather texture. I think the yellow may be just a bit bright also.

Michele -- beautiful rendering -- lovely colors -- so very realistic!

I am thinking of trying the swan -- I don't have a vision for it, though. May just plunge in -- will be hard to not copy from some of you! Angela

eyepaint
04-07-2008, 01:08 PM
RG - good job on your first flower.
Shirl - looks good
Bill - ha - love the look of the light over the dark (in your water). Your swan has an impish eye and expression
Bars - I like the different directions of strokes you used for the background. I agree with Pat that maybe the yellow is a bit bright - maybe it can be blended into the white a bit?
Angela - thank you :)

Cheers,

eyepaint
04-07-2008, 01:11 PM
Here's my version of the hen and chicks. Sennelier on 9x12" Fabriano Ingres paper.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Apr-2008/96240-IMGP2850.JPG




Cheers,

Pat Isaac
04-07-2008, 03:29 PM
I just love how you see things, EP. Nice abstract quality.
Michele, just gorgeous rendering of the swan, I can just feel the softness of the feathers.
:lol: :lol: Bill, you are too kind.

Pat

Shirl Parker
04-07-2008, 03:36 PM
Maaaaarrrrvelous EP.

Bars
04-08-2008, 04:20 AM
:cat: I have toned down the yellow but it is still scanning too bright, anyway here is the updated try.
Thanks every one for your comments.
don't know if I will try the next one or not. Can anyone tell me if they had problems drawing the swans neck. You should have seen my first try. :o I think all the pictures in this challnge have been great.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Apr-2008/119075-swan_2_jpeg_resize.jpg

Pat Isaac
04-08-2008, 07:59 AM
Looks great, Bars. Scanners often pick up certain colors brighter than they are. I haven't done the swan yet, but I do know from past experience that that type of curve can be very tricky. Your swan neck looks fine. I really like your background.

Pat

Scarefishcrow
04-08-2008, 04:04 PM
Great H&C EP. Pat's right, interesting to look at the world through your eyes.

Bars--I didn't take the chance, I traced! Good job. Like the water and atmosphere.

Great job Michele.

Bill
:music: :heart: :music:

Bars
04-09-2008, 03:03 AM
Thanks Pat and Bill, I don't think I will do the other picture. Bars

DGB
04-09-2008, 08:50 AM
Dont anyone believe Bars first swan neck was terrible,[saw it sunday] Bars this one is great.:clap: Congratulations everyone :thumbsup:a lot of hard work here. Well done. Dot. :cat:

truck driver
04-10-2008, 04:46 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Apr-2008/136518-flowers.jpg

I Couldnt leave it alone here is try 2

RG

Shirl Parker
04-10-2008, 05:15 PM
Very good RG. Nice color and detail.

Scarefishcrow
04-10-2008, 08:22 PM
RG I like your second attempt better. The colors are brighter and crisper.
Very nice.

Bill

AngelaF
04-11-2008, 08:34 AM
Bars -- you did a great rendering of the swan, especially for starting out. Placing your strokes in the direction of the feathers is really a more experienced and effective technique for acheiving the shapes in the swan.

EP -- nice colors.

RG -- Your second rendering shows a nice interpretive more relaxed painting -nice job.

Hope to get to the swan before the month is over. Angela

udlamjo
04-12-2008, 08:12 PM
Here is a quick and cheap one from me
under 2 hours on on cheap HP WC paper
Senniers OP and neopastel 10 x 8

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Apr-2008/116969-OP04-V002e.jpg
C & C are welcome :wave:

Mikael

Scarefishcrow
04-12-2008, 08:32 PM
Mikael..What a wonderful interpretation of the swan. The water ripples are especially well done. . They frustraated me greatly, but you really nailed them. The subtle color on the swan is good too. Very good picture.

truck driver
04-12-2008, 10:37 PM
Thats a quick cheap one? looks great.

RG

Pat Isaac
04-13-2008, 03:46 PM
Hey, Rg, back from my trip. I do like the bolder color in your second painting.
Beautiful swan, Mikael. I like the richness of your water color as opposed to the soft swan color.

pat

udlamjo
04-13-2008, 05:00 PM
thanks chloe for the pictures i think your version of hens and chicks is very good

Shirl: a very good reversed version of swan gonna try a wc underpainting sometime

Bill:thanks for you comment, your swan a nice try like pat i would not put so much white in the water only in the water ripples

Bars: I like your second version of the swan, look like it's night and it's raining.

Michele: very well done like the darkness in the water nice water ripples

EP: like your version of swan and hen and chicks you have special way to see colors.

Truck Driver:my two last OP i used Art Spectrum Colourfix,very expensive:( not selling in my country, must import it from england this time i used cheap WC paper instead . I like second version of hen and chicks more colurfull than your first try

Pat: thanks for you nice comments

Mikael :cat:

diquattrom
04-13-2008, 05:45 PM
Mikael nice job.

eyepaint
04-13-2008, 08:05 PM
Pat - thank you
Shirl - thank you
Bars - way to go - good face/forehead on the swan
Bill - thank you
RG - good job on the hens again (does anyone know which are the hens and which are the chicks?)
Angela - thank you
Mikael - thank you. Yours is lovely!

Cheers,

AngelaF
04-13-2008, 08:18 PM
Mikael -- very nice, very well done -- too bad you don't like the paper. An artist in Canada who is very good uses 300# cold press, is that easier to get?
Angela

udlamjo
04-14-2008, 12:31 PM
Angela Thanks i used 200# Hot Pressed wc paper very smooth even surface to work on don't like cold pressed wc paper to rough surface.

Mikael :rolleyes:

Chloe_1
04-14-2008, 10:36 PM
Tks. Mikael..
I like your swan. Nice colors. He looks likes he's peacefully gliding along on those beautiful waves in the water ;-)))

MadMaddy
04-17-2008, 09:23 AM
Well, it has been a long time since I posted on this forum. I lurk alot since OP's are really my favorite medium. I have been really busy with graphite portrait commissions, which is nice that I can make money but I really have missed my OP's. Anyway, I needed to get away from the technical and detail of realistic graphite work so I looked at the challenge this month and loved the pictures. I opted for the hen and chicks for the color.

It felt so good to do something a bit more expressive and colorful then i have been working on. Something I could be more creative with. So here is my effort with the challenge this month. So glad I could participate, I was afraid I would get burned out doing the other.

This is Senn's on 9 X 12 Terra Cotta Colorfix.

C & C always welcome.

Shirl Parker
04-17-2008, 11:08 AM
Wonderful Lara. The blending is par excellence. The light and dark contrast superb. Hope we see you more often. I bet you could do fantastic portraits with your OPs also.

Pat Isaac
04-17-2008, 02:47 PM
Awesome, Lara....Such vibrant color.

Pat

sundiver
04-17-2008, 06:30 PM
I just spent an enjoyable ten minutes cruising through this thread, enjoying all the eye-candy. I've got one image saved and in the queue, but still have several other projects. I'm not sure I'll get to it before the end of the month, but for now, kudos to you all !:thumbsup:

Scarefishcrow
04-17-2008, 08:58 PM
Lara-- Nice to meet you. Haven't seen your work before, but I can tell you are no novice when it comes to OP. Hope to see you around more often. Your H&C marvelously rendered.

MadMaddy
04-17-2008, 10:23 PM
Shirl, thanks so much and yes I have done a couple of portraits with OP's. I posted them here but it has been a while.

Pat, Bill, Thanks as well. I am excited to have participated again and I am looking forward to doing more work with the OP's since they are such a nice medium to work with. Though I do have more projects to do otherwise, I may try and do a piece just for me now and again.

serenasocean
04-17-2008, 11:40 PM
I've mostly finished my swan. Who ever said the neck was challenging... I agree!! It's not a perfect rendition, but I really enjoyed making it. C & C welcome. I may add more depth to the background later.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Apr-2008/65034-swan.jpg

Thanks Chloe, for hosting such a great challenge :)

serenasocean
04-17-2008, 11:40 PM
I wanted to add that everyone's work so far has been inspiring :)

Pat Isaac
04-18-2008, 04:20 PM
Beautiful swan, Serena. You have achieved great subtlety of color on the swan. Is this on Yupo?

Pat

diquattrom
04-18-2008, 05:41 PM
Lara, excellent piece.

serena, beautiful work.

Chloe_1
04-18-2008, 10:29 PM
Beautiful work on the swan serena..;-)))

serenasocean
04-19-2008, 02:23 PM
Thanks Pat, Lara and Chloe :)

Pat, this is on clayboard, my favorite :). What is Yupo?

Pat Isaac
04-19-2008, 03:16 PM
Sorry, wrong person....brain cramp..:lol: I really like clayboard too. Yupo is a very smooth shiny watercolor type paper.

Pat

Scarefishcrow
04-19-2008, 05:30 PM
Sorry, wrong person....brain cramp..:lol: I really like clayboard too. Yupo is a very smooth shiny watercolor type paper.

Pat

:lol: :lol: :lol: Brain Cramp!!!! At long last I now know what it is I frequently suffer from!!!! Thanks Pat:thumbsup:

Serena--The neck may have been a challenge, but at least you got the eye in the right place, unlike someone writing this post that shall remain unnamed. Beautiful swan!

serenasocean
04-22-2008, 11:13 PM
Thanks Bill :)

AngelaF
04-25-2008, 09:23 PM
Lara, very beautiful interpretation of the flower. Beautiful color and very nice rendering.

Serena, I love the brightness of the swan. You did a very nice job with this piece. Did you coat the clayboard with anything. If not, isn't a slick surface? Just wondering, I liike that clayboard can come cradled. Angela

serenasocean
04-25-2008, 09:46 PM
Hi Angela,

Thanks! Clayboard is available both smooth and textured. I use the textured one. I don't put anything on the surface, although I suppose you could.

:)

Chloe_1
05-01-2008, 08:48 AM
Thank you everyone for participating in the April challenge.
Wonderful work;-)))

Pat Isaac
05-01-2008, 08:53 AM
And thank you for hosting.

Pat

Scarefishcrow
05-01-2008, 09:03 AM
Thank you everyone for participating in the April challenge.
Wonderful work;-)))

Chloe--Thank you for hosting the challenge and providing "challenging" images for us to interpret!

We learn so much from things like this and see that others' eyes see the same scene in different ways.

It helps us learn that "liking" a particular piece of art is not always the same as "appreciating" the artist's interpretation.

That seems to be something we often forget and get hung up on; equating "liking" with "appreciating". The artists I most admire and typically "like" all have some works I don't particularly care for and when I open my mind and explore artists I think I don't "like" I sometimes find works that startle me and really excite me.

I recently visited the "debate" forum and so many people wast so much time and creative energy arguing about whether are particular artist is "good" or "bad". One thing I have realized here on the OP forum with things like the challenges and sketch threads, "good" and "bad" are matters of viewpoint. There is no absolute "right" or "wrong" in art. Van Gogh, the iconic symbol of the Great Artist" only sold 1 painting in his life, but has come to symbolize the very essence of "great art".

Sorry for the sappy, philosophical lapse, but thanks for taking your time to host the challenge!

Bill

sparkling
05-01-2008, 12:53 PM
OMG, last month passed quickly, I did not even have the slightest chance to finish my painting :( .
Yet for the record: I started it at least :angel: :wave:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-May-2008/97229-op_swan.jpg

Shirl Parker
05-01-2008, 01:21 PM
It's lovely Silvia. And it looks real close to finished. Are you sure it's not?

Pat Isaac
05-01-2008, 04:31 PM
My thought exactly. It is beautiful and may be finished. Love the vibrant color.

Pat

Scarefishcrow
05-01-2008, 10:44 PM
Oh Angela--If only my finshed paintings could look as good as your unfinishes ones!!!!!!!:wave:

Chloe_1
05-10-2008, 10:47 AM
I recently visited the "debate" forum and so many people wast so much time and creative energy arguing about whether are particular artist is "good" or "bad". One thing I have realized here on the OP forum with things like the challenges and sketch threads, "good" and "bad" are matters of viewpoint. There is no absolute "right" or "wrong" in art. Van Gogh, the iconic symbol of the Great Artist" only sold 1 painting in his life, but has come to symbolize the very essence of "great art".



Bill

Thanks for the input Bill:)
Yes, I do agree that there is no good or bad art, because everyone expresses themselves differently. I think suggested creative criticism is good though to help someone strenghten compositions, or a color that might give more pizazz to their existing painting.This is always helpul. In that way artist learn how to grow, and strenghten their style.
My two cents worth:p

Scarefishcrow
05-10-2008, 10:10 PM
Thanks for the input Bill:)
Yes, I do agree that there is no good or bad art, because everyone expresses themselves differently. I think suggested creative criticism is good though to help someone strenghten compositions, or a color that might give more pizazz to their existing painting.This is always helpul. In that way artist learn how to grow, and strenghten their style.
My two cents worth:p

Oh Chloe...I never intended my comments to be construed as suggesting we shouldn't offer constructive critiques and suggestions. I do so myself and learn greatly from those of others.

I'm afraid I made those comments out of the context of some dialogue I had been having via PM on the differences between "debate" and "dialogue". I won't go into my philosophical view here, but would be glad to share it with you if you are interested. I was somewhat put off by the "tone" and "ad hominem" attacks on peoples' viewpoints in the "debate" threads I checked out.

What I was trying to say was that this forum, IMHO, is filled with folks that DO OFFER CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM AND NOT SIMPLY PUT DOWN OTHER'S VIEWS BECAUSE THEY DISAGREE WITH THEM.

It was simply a personal "hot button" issue with me since I personally find "debates", as they are by definition, about persuading the majority one's viewpoint is the correct one, and not about engaging in diaglouge that seeks to explore alternative viewpoints with an open mind and somewhat more civil tone than I found in the "Debate:Art, Culture and Society" forum. Again, those that enjoy that arena are perfectly welcome to and have every right to utilize that forum, I was simply saying it is not my cup of tea.

I hope this makes sense. And I certainly didn't intend my remarks to be taken as being against the kinds of constructive critiques you seem to be referring to!!! :o :o

I hope this clarifies my comments and certainly hope you didn't take them as suggesting in any way anything negative about the way the OP forum operates. Quite the contrarty, I find this to be one of the nicest places I have ever found on the web, and the only place I ever felt comfortable interacting with others without fear of being "flamed"!

Perhaps I was suffering a temporary relapse of the childhood syndrome my Mother used to refer to as "...putting my mouth in motion before my mind was in gear....!" :wave: :) :music: :heart: :heart: :music:

Pat Isaac
05-15-2008, 07:33 AM
Here is Chloe's reply, Bill.

Oh no not at all Scarefishcrow, I wasn't thinking in that way.
I agreed with your statement, and just wanted to say something about constructive suggestions.. :heart: :cat: :thumbsup: :wave:



Pat

Scarefishcrow
05-15-2008, 12:10 PM
Here is Chloe's reply, Bill.

Oh no not at all Scarefishcrow, I wasn't thinking in that way.
I agreed with your statement, and just wanted to say something about constructive suggestions.. :heart: :cat: :thumbsup: :wave:



Pat

Good Chloe. I really love this place and the confrontation thing is just not my cup of tea which is why, in all the years I have been involved with computing (before there was a web) I have never participated in forums until I found this place and I love it and the people!!!!


Thnaks for hosting the challenge.

Bill:thumbsup: