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Pat Isaac
03-10-2008, 07:25 AM
Good morning everyone,

Nice March day, sunny and cool. Spring is on the way as more of our spring birds have arrived and the sap in running in the Maples. Our bulbs are coming up and the snowdrops are in bloom. Yay...Off to the studio today to get ready for the photo shoot on Wednesday and to work on gulls.....:lol:
So come in and share your joys, concerns...or just the day to day routine and lets get aquainted.

Have a great day:) :) :)

Pat

Artchrispy
03-10-2008, 08:33 AM
I picked up a nasty adware virus called virtumonde which is a variant of vundo trojan. I'm 99 % sure I picked it up by following an artist's galley link to a artist gallery hosting website called "deviant art. " I'll probably have to reload windows. The spyware, adware,and antivirus programs claim to remove it but don't really. It renames and moves itself around. There is fixes deliberately made to correct it which don't work. Frustrating.

Pat Isaac
03-10-2008, 10:30 AM
I'm sorry you picked up a virus, Chris. That must be very frustrating. Fortunately, I've so far never had that problem and hope I won't. I have a Mac so they are not prone to picking up viruses.

Pat

Scarefishcrow
03-10-2008, 11:21 AM
Well Chris--as bad as it may seem, better your computer is sick than you!!
Hope you get it taken care of. Got you PM and am taking care of that this week. Hope your trip is a good one and your travels safe.

Bill
:music: :heart: :music:

Scarefishcrow
03-10-2008, 11:24 AM
Pat -- With all the rain you've had, I hope you don't get caught in another "GULL"eewasher on your way to the photo shoot. Hope the article comes out well for your group.

:music: :heart: :music:

wabbitt
03-10-2008, 02:17 PM
Hello world :wink2:

Unfortunately I did catch a real cold, but I think I prefer it to a cyber virus. It was a beautiful weekend and between my frequent naps I did manage quite a bit of art time, including another big self-portrait for class. I haven't been posting these lately, even though one was in OP.

I donated a bag full of art supplies to the local professional art association's fundraising "yard sale" which benefits the college where I take classes. It was stuff I've been wanting to get rid of for a couple years, including the worst of my no name oil pastels & colored pencils, tubes of watercolor, and flourescent colored printer paper I've had for over 10 years. As big and heavy this donation was, I can't even tell by looking at my art corner that I've gotten rid of anything! :lol: After dropping that stuff off, we stopped at the flea market where Mom spent all my cash. She just wanted a papaya...right.

It's almost lunch, I hope I can make it to the end of the day.

Scarefishcrow
03-10-2008, 02:48 PM
Julie-Sorry to hear of your cold. Hope you are better!

Bill
:music: :heart: :music:

Pat Isaac
03-10-2008, 03:39 PM
So sorry to hear that you have "the cold". Get well and Bill has chicken soup....You must post your OP portrait as I thought your last one in OP was well done.
Great donation..that is what I am doing with some 200 books in a few days.

Pat

Scarefishcrow
03-10-2008, 06:17 PM
Pat--Here's the gull that didn't make it into the PM I sent you!

It is on the "wonky pier" you liked!!!!
:thumbsup: :music: :heart: :heart: :music:

Pat Isaac
03-10-2008, 06:34 PM
That is too funny, Bill.....:lol: You are such a hoot...
Actually I have a pic of a laughing gull that used to visit the outdoor eating place where DH and I often visited in Maine. They even had signs, "please do not feed". I will have to try and find the photo.

Pat

Scarefishcrow
03-11-2008, 02:10 AM
Everyone--I cannot believe my luck. My wife has to go to Raleigh, NC in April for work and though I might like to come along. So off we go again.

Hmmm....Raleigh, N.C. Seems like there's something about that place that rings a bell. Oh....now I remember! Isn't that where Jerry's Artarama started and isn't that where their enormous home store is???? Gosh, what a coincidence. Think I'll see if my wife will bring an empty suicase along for me to haul stuff back??

Hmmm. Lucky, but not that lucky!!!! Oh, well, at least I don't have to worry about forgetting something for my sketch kit this time, do I???

BTW, Pat, I posted two sketches in the weekly sketch thread and dedicated one of them to you!!! Check it out.
Title: "Score: Gulls 1 Buoys 0"

It was quick, but it is the thought that counts, right?

Bill
:music: :heart: :music:

Pat Isaac
03-11-2008, 09:39 AM
Wow, how lucky is that!!! You may be lost forever in that store, I know I would. So many choices.....maybe you should bring a trunk...:lol:
Do you have a front view of a gull???

Pat

Shirl Parker
03-11-2008, 12:46 PM
Bill, Jerry's is in Raleigh, and it's Cheap Joes in Boone, NC and in Charlotte.

Scarefishcrow
03-11-2008, 01:44 PM
OH THIS IS TOOOOOOO MUCH!!! GUESS WHERE WE GO BEFORE RALEIGH?????

CHARLOTTE!!!!!!!

MY WIFE IS GOING TO CANCEL MY TICKET FOR SURE!!! SHOULD I TELL HER???


:evil: :evil:

Scarefishcrow
03-11-2008, 01:48 PM
Do you have a front view of a gull???

Pat

Surely, you jest!!! Do I have a front view of a gull??? Gulls from every conceivable angle comming up!!!

:D :D :D :D

Scarefishcrow
03-11-2008, 01:49 PM
Or you might consider

Scarefishcrow
03-11-2008, 01:51 PM
But in case you want a different perspective

Scarefishcrow
03-11-2008, 01:53 PM
Ooops, how'd these get in here????

Scarefishcrow
03-11-2008, 01:56 PM
Sorry, Pat, I couldn't quikly locate the bulk of my gull pics. Maybe later. Somewhere about 40 photos of just the head at close range. Oh well.

Hope these will suffice for now.

You want pics, I got em!!!


:music: :music: :heart: :heart: :music: :music: :smug: :rolleyes:

Pat Isaac
03-11-2008, 03:45 PM
I guess I'll have to be careful what I wish for...:lol: Thanks for all the photos, now I can start a gull reference file.....with a few buoys thrown in...
Good grief you may be lost forever amongst the paint tubes, paper and pastels....

Pat

Scarefishcrow
03-11-2008, 05:19 PM
Fear not, my good friends, I don't think there is the slightest chance that my wife will let me near any of those places without first frisking me to make sure I have absolutely no tangible resources to even barter with!!!!!

Pat-- That is one of my projects on the back burner. I literally have thousands (and I mean literally; over 9000 from last summer's Russia trip alone) of photos I have taken of all sorts of things from animals to places, to closeups of various objects from different angles, etc. that I want to put to use by posting in the Ref Lib. For example, I probably have a couple of hundred pics of palms from below, above, fronds from every conceivable direction, blowing in the wind, quietly standing, with and without coconuts attached, against various backgrounds, etc.) I just need to familiarize myself with the Ref Lib and how to go about setting up albums. (The dodo's, e.g., are from a trip to a natural history museum in London. Also have a ton of pics from the Albert and Victory Museum of decorative Arts with original and replicas of all sorts of items from glassware to carved ivory to casts of Trajan's columns, to replicas of cathedral alterpieces, casts of tomb effigies of monarchs, replicas of classic statuary, decorative portals, chests, window grillwork, and on and on. I think these would be valuable for artists as reference material (and I was not joking about not finding my major gull trove. On a trip to Britain we visited the Brighton Pier and I was able get a fantastic series of entreme closeups of a gull atop a fortune teller's wagon with it making all sorts of faces as it squawked away. I also try to take photos with composition in mind that I can work from without having to crop, etc. It seems always better to get a well composed photo and go from there.

Uhoh. Babble alarm just went off. Sorry.

(I did find out that there is a 5000 character limit to Posts :o :o :o ). Wonder how many people ever get that error message. My guess is not too many!!

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

"IF YOU HEAR A VOICE WITHIN YOU SAYING YOU ARE NOT A PAINTER, THEN BY ALL MEANS PAINT, AND THAT VOICE WILL BE SILENCED." VINCENT VAN GOGH

:music: :heart: :music:

Scarefishcrow
03-11-2008, 05:24 PM
Gotta love that "wonky pier" though, don't ya??

Pat Isaac
03-11-2008, 05:29 PM
All those photos would be such a great resource for the RFL. Go for it.

Pat

Pat Isaac
03-12-2008, 05:30 PM
Well, our group had the photo shoot today for the area magazine. It was kind of interesting to see how art directors and photographers work for a shoot. They talked about all the aesthetic poses and feelings that they wanted to come forth in their photos and set up the shoot accordingly. They spent about an hour in my studio taking photos and an equal amount of time in all the others. I am excited to see the the article and i feel that it will be a big plus for our group.
Now back to creating art.....

Pat

Scarefishcrow
03-12-2008, 06:33 PM
Pat--That is great news and exciting. I hope when the article come out you can share it with us. I know many veterans are probably familiar with your group, but I would be interested in learning more about your artists' community. It sounds very interesting.

Bill

Pat Isaac
03-12-2008, 06:41 PM
You can go to our website, www.4thfloorartists.org. I also do that site. We have had a lot of changes in the past year, but we are still functioning and growing again.

Pat

Peiwend
03-12-2008, 06:43 PM
Pat, congratulations on the photo shoot.

Bill, that scruffy gull looks like one of the gang that attacked me last summer. Well, now he and his cohorts are hiding out in Mexico.

_________________________Wendell

Pat Isaac
03-12-2008, 06:50 PM
Thanks, Wendell...they all look pretty scruffy to me, especially the ones on the shelf.....Mexico??....do they have them there too???

Pat

Scarefishcrow
03-12-2008, 07:57 PM
Pat--Gulls are the squirrels of the bird world. They are anywhere anything to eat can be found without having to expend much energy!

Speaking of energy, you run that website, too?????? Are you related to the Energizer Bunny or WHAT? I didn't have that much energy when I was young, much less now. Do you take steroids or what???

Wendell--That "scruffy" gull (I'll take that as complement on my loose style) doesn't just look like the one that attacked you, it is the one that attacked you. And unless I get my EGOP's before he returns from winter holiiday I have given him instructions to buzz you again this season!!!!!:evil:

Sorry, Wendell, I apologize. I'm just so depressed that everyone has EGOP's except me!!! And to make matters worse, my wife now informs me she's confiscating every credit card, checkbook and anything else of tangible value before she will even let me drive by Jerry's Artarama when we go to Raleigh in April. Then she changed our flight so we're going to Savannah instead of Charlotte when she found out Cheap Joe's was in Charlotte! It's enough to make a grown man cry, much less one that never grew up, like me:crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:

"BUOY" THIS SITUATION REALLY "GULLS" ME!!! "BOAT" DON'T WORRY! I'LL HAVE A PLAN PRE"PEARED" TO "SCUTTLE" HER PLANS. "BUOY" IS SHE "GULLIBLE"!

I gotta stop that, I'm even disgusting myself!!! "Pun"ctuation has always been a problem for me.

Cheers, and get well Wendell. It's hard to use someone that's sick as a scapegoat!


:music: :heart: :music:

Pat Isaac
03-12-2008, 08:09 PM
:lol: :lol: you are such a hoot... it's true about the gulls, reminded me about the left over popcorn we throw out under the bird feeder on sunday morning.(we do Sat. night at the movies w/popcorn) We are relatively near the coast and there are gulls on our pond all the time, so guess who eats the corn?...even they beat out the squirrels. It's a pretty funny sight.

Pat

Scarefishcrow
03-12-2008, 08:27 PM
Well, in that case, God Bless The Gulls. We have bird feeders out and have finally found one that the squirrels cannot figure out how to get to the seeds!!!! Unfortunately it requires welding metal plates over all the opennings which also prevents the birds from getting at the seed. Sometimes you have to compromise in life!!!!


:rolleyes:
Bill
:music: :heart: :music:

Peiwend
03-12-2008, 11:18 PM
Bill, I'm not sure where I saw it but your painting of the breaking wave is great! You really nailed it and I hope you'll do more paintings of water.

_______________________________Wendell

AngelaF
03-13-2008, 08:20 AM
Glad you have some spring like weather, Pat. The piles of snow here are gradually getting smaller and smaller. The mud is next, I fear. It is nice to hear the birds singing here and there!

Chris, hope you fix your computer, that sounds so frustrating. I will try not to go there, thanks for the warning.

Julie, sounds like a great weekend, despite your illness. I hope you are feeling better.

Great gull photos, Bill. Wow, what great opportunities on your trip -- I can't imagine going to both of those places -- what fun -- I guess you'll have to go in with a set amount -- like going to the casino:lol:.

I am still working on my first mural panel -- almost done, but have to paint out an eye and redo -- at least the acrylics make that realitively easy. I fiddled with it alot yesterday before realizing it needs a major move.

Happy painting, Angela

Pat Isaac
03-13-2008, 09:05 AM
Nice to hear you are working on your mural and having fun. My brother-in-law in Vermont always says they have 2 seasons there - winter and the 4th of July with mud in the middle.:lol:

Pat

Scarefishcrow
03-13-2008, 02:08 PM
Bill, I'm not sure where I saw it but your painting of the breaking wave is great! You really nailed it and I hope you'll do more paintings of water.

_______________________________Wendell

Wendell--(and I mean this seriously, something rare for me) I am speechless to receive a copliment from someone whose artistry of seascapes I've looked at on the web are breathtaking. I absolutly love your work and very, very flattered that you would take time to comment on it. Thanks. I took an enormous number of pictures (many hig speed series) of waves, breakers on rocks, etc that are great inspiration. I would love to learn to do water surfaces better because they are so fascinating. I have attached some (digitally modified photos) from the trip I am trying to work on now as a couple of paired pieces that are split from larger images.

Angela--Where did you get the idea my wife ever let me go into a casino. She would consider that the ultimate (most likely correctly) in reckless behaviour! Enjoy your mural work.

Oh Pat--I wish I has another pun about you know what, but I'm afraid I've hit rock bottom with regards to particular birds and boat accessories. However, have you ever heard the expression "When he hits rock bottom, he starts to dig!". :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Scarefishcrow
03-13-2008, 02:09 PM
The original photos I split to create the pair of "diptychs" are here

Pat Isaac
03-13-2008, 02:29 PM
I love these digitally manipulated photos, Bill.
Haven't heard that one yet...

Pat

Scarefishcrow
03-13-2008, 02:43 PM
Thanks, Pat. I have to thank my wife who actually took the two photos. The one with the two sitting on the fence I thought was neat, but would be better split into a pair with the right hand bird as the left piece of the pair. This would then be more balanced and place the bird in the left painting looking toward the one in the right.

I actually like the composition of the two pelicans and dock as is but think it would also make a great paired set. I love the way the water (very different effect in each) works.

To do this I stumbled upon an incredibly simple way to get this effect digitally. First I use a sharping routine (unsharp mask set to extreme in ACDSee Photo Manager) and then run the result through again. I then go to HSL and manipulate the saturation levels and lightness, mostly to get the effect.

I really like to use digital manipulations to help me envision things or simplify things in photos then use the ideas and try to see if I can approach it with OP. I am almost done with an attempt at the first one, but am not satisfied with how I did the water. Will post when done and get some feed back.

Bill

Pat Isaac
03-14-2008, 04:33 PM
We had some good news today. Our daughter who was diagnosed with colon cancer last summer had her follow up colonoscopy today and all was clear. We are very happy as is her family. Also our son-in-law in Maryland had and emergency appendectomy yesterday and he is fine and home, resuming most activities.
Bill, I know what the unsharp mask is but what is ACDphoto manager? What is HSL? Is that the contrast lightness tool?

Pat

Shirl Parker
03-14-2008, 05:14 PM
Group Show

Here's a link to the thread I posted in Watercolor about our Group Show.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=484315

Pat Isaac
03-14-2008, 05:17 PM
That's just great, Shirl. Congratulations!:clap: What a great space for the show.

Pat

Peiwend
03-14-2008, 05:46 PM
Pat, that must be such a great relief for you and your family.

All the best...

______________________________Wendell

Pat Isaac
03-14-2008, 05:49 PM
Thanks, Wendell. It is.:)

Pat

Scarefishcrow
03-14-2008, 06:01 PM
Pat--Congrats on the news. My mom and dad both died of cancer and I know what you must be going through. I have to run now but will answer your questions when I get back. Perhaps a good laugh will help you so I'm attaching a really crudely done OP sketch of where my EGOPs probably are! This is for you, too, Wendell.

Bill:lol: :lol:

AnnieA
03-14-2008, 07:07 PM
You're a hard act to follow, Bill. Your sketch is funny and imaginative.

Pat: I'm very glad to hear about your daughter and also about your son-in-law. It must be a huge relief in both cases. The website for your building looks good - nice intro to the group. Like Bill, I also am amazed by all you do and your boundless energy. Wish you could share it as I sure could use some more myself. The photo shoot sounds like it went very well and it's great that they had such an interest in all the artists.

Bill: I'm an unusually verbal person, but I had no idea there was a 5,000 character limit to WC posts. :lol: Too funny! Are you sure you didn't pull some strings with your wife's employer :evil:, just to get a chance to travel to what appears to be the Art Supply Store Capital of the World? Sounds like lots of fun! I got a chuckle reading about your wife's rein-in-the-artist spending strategies. :) Your photos all look great and I'm sure they would be much appreciated in the RIL. I'm not so certain about all your pun-ishment though. :p

Angela: Good to hear that the harbingers of spring are appearing for you. Don't forget to give us a link to photos of your murals, when they're done.

Shirl: a big congrats on your show and the sales. :clap:

I thought I'd be getting a lot of painting done today, but instead I finally put a call into the doctor, because my face has gotten more numb again. :( It's hard not knowing for sure what's causing it.

Scarefishcrow
03-14-2008, 09:22 PM
Annie--I am so glad to met and made friends like you in the OP forum. I really have not been as engaged and enthusiastic about something in a long time. I know that sounds terrible for a retired professor, but I loved my work but after 30 years and NEVER having done anything but go to or teach school I felt I was becoming stale and I had developed this intellectual infatuation with art and though I may never compete in anything, I feel like I am growing each day and I have made so much progress and learned so much from the people here. I might as well tell the truth, I am big time Adult ADD and that is part of my kinetic way of writing and thinking. I hope that you find out the cause of your facial numbness. Neurological problems are sometimes very tricky to pin down. My brother developed a neurological syndrome that, while not itself serious, was often connected to other serious complications and I understand how frustrating it is when, like him, they really could not nail down the cause. Take care of yourself! You are precious gem we want to admire for a long time around here!

Pat- sorry I had to run, but in an almost eerie coincidence, I have been having to drive my wife around today because she had a colonoscopy this morning! All fine. Having a history of colon cancer in my family I have to keep close watch and am so glad that your daughter's was caught early. Having lost both parents to cancer, and just last semester lost my very dear mother-in-law to complications after about 37 years of successfully battling breast cancer, I know how frightening the diagnoisis is. On the positive side, my sister called and I now have an additional great-grand nephew and a new grand nephew (named for both me and my brother; now I have two grand nephews that are namesakes; one for each of my two given names); One is to be married in August so i guess I have to head south.

Now, as to the questions, ACDSee is a piece of software that started out long ago as basically an image browser. It has developed into what some people would refer to as essentially and integrated image browser, basic editor and Digital Asset Manager (DAM); the means that it maintains a database on your images, allows you to edit the information in the database, extract information from the EXIF metadate stored by your camera when it takes digital photos and annotate, categorize, sort, add keywords, etc. to make it easier to find and sort large collections of images. HSL refers to Hue Saturation Lightness. It allows you to adjust these properties of the image. In this software there are other tools for making adjustments to exposure, brightness and constrast, histogram (highlight midtone and shadow) manipulations, cropping, etc. I have used it for a long time and like it but there are some other programs that are comparable.

So much for my life story!!

See y'all later!

:music: :heart: :music:

Peiwend
03-14-2008, 11:20 PM
Bill, good drawing but if that is Canada customs your parcel is going the wrong way!

_______________________________Wendell

Scarefishcrow
03-14-2008, 11:41 PM
Bill, good drawing but if that is Canada customs your parcel is going the wrong way!

_______________________________Wendell

AT LONG LAST, THE PROBLEM HAS BEEN DEFINED. :crying: :crying: :crying: :eek: :eek: :eek:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Pat Isaac
03-15-2008, 08:50 AM
:lol: :lol: Lve the drawing, Bill...now we know what the problem is...Congratulations on your new namesake Bill :clap: and thank for your thoughts re: daughter. It is in my husband's family, his father died of colon cancer and he had had precancerous problems, so it is very fortunate that our daughter's was caught this early.

Sorry to hear about the numbness, Annie, hope they find out what the cause is. I'll be thinking of you.

I have to run, but I'll be back to talk about the computer stuff.

Pat

Scarefishcrow
03-15-2008, 05:22 PM
:D :D :D :D

THEY'RE HERE!!!!
THEY'RE HERE!!!!
THEY'RE HERE!!!!
THEY'RE HERE!!!!

OH WENDELL, ORACLE OF THE GREAT NORTH, NOBEL PROPHET, BILUNGUAL KEEPER OF ALL ARTISTIST KNOWLEDGE.....YOU WERE RIGHT, I FORGOT ABOUT THEM FOR A DAY AND, VOYEELAH (:smug: ), THERE THEY WERE.

I STAND IN AWE OF YOU, OH GREAT ONE!!


Bill, your lowly servant
and accolyte

:music: :heart: :music:

Pat Isaac
03-15-2008, 05:38 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Mar-2008/35760-81895-33616-32965-woohoo-dancingtext.gif
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Mar-2008/35760-33616-28847-9813-klap_klap.gif
A toast is in order....
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Mar-2008/35760-85002-champagne_toast.gif

So glad the dogs finally found their way.

Pat

Peiwend
03-15-2008, 06:13 PM
Bill, I modestly accept your praise, but "NOBEL" prophet? That's dynamite! Surely you mean "noble".

You get mail delivery on Saturday? WOW!

________________________________Wendell

Pat Isaac
03-15-2008, 06:49 PM
So do I......you don't?

Pat

Scarefishcrow
03-15-2008, 07:43 PM
NOBEL? NOBLE?

OOOOOOH? EERIE FORCES AT WORK HERE!!!! WHO AM I TO QUESTION THE SUPERNATURAL FORCES THAT MOVED MY MORTAL HANDS TO STRIKE THOSE KEYS. NO, NO, NO. NOT ME!

NOBEL IT IS!

[however, one would think someone with you powers would be able to get mail on Saturday, though. Hmmmmm????]


Remaining your loyal servant and accolyte
(pending review of this mail thing).

Bill
:music: :heart: :music:

Peiwend
03-15-2008, 10:31 PM
We haven't had mail on Saturday ever since the government didn't want to lose any more money on the post office and made it a government corporation. At least we don't get any bills on Saturday. That would be a real downer. In my little village we pick up our mail at the Post Office which is run by a glass artist. She has a little Post Office counter in the little store she runs beside her glass studio. If someone gets a parcel it's BIG news here. You feel obliged to open it up in the Post Office and share the excitement. If you get magazines, it's considered good manners after you read them to take them back to the Post Office and put them into a box there. Then other people can pick them out of the box and read them. At least the Post Office lady can sleep in on Saturday. She is a single mother with small children and always looks tired.

Well, that's how things work in a tiny village.

_______________________________Wendell

Scarefishcrow
03-15-2008, 10:51 PM
We haven't had mail on Saturday ever since the government didn't want to lose any more money on the post office and made it a government corporation. At least we don't get any bills on Saturday. That would be a real downer. In my little village we pick up our mail at the Post Office which is run by a glass artist. She has a little Post Office counter in the little store she runs beside her glass studio. If someone gets a parcel it's BIG news here. You feel obliged to open it up in the Post Office and share the excitement. If you get magazines, it's considered good manners after you read them to take them back to the Post Office and put them into a box there. Then other people can pick them out of the box and read them. At least the Post Office lady can sleep in on Saturday. She is a single mother with small children and always looks tired.

Well, that's how things work in a tiny village.

_______________________________Wendell


So that's where the place in Louisiana I grew up in moved to!!!!! Wendell I've been looking to find it ever since I woke up one morning on a visit home and realized while lying in the bed I had slept in for so many years that the place I grew up in had gone somewhere else!


(I can't call it a town or village because it wasn't even incorporated at the time. I had 3 teachers for the first six grades and when I graduated 3rd in my High School class I missed the top 10%. The sign said "WELCOME TO OUR COMMUNITY" on both sides and our idea of a really hot time on saturday night was to drive down to the mercantile store (closed, of course); buy those little 6 oz. Coca Colas for a nickel from the vending machine, and sit on the hoods of our parent's cars, or someone else's parents' car, tell what we thought were dirty jokes but today coluld probably be told on the kid's station, and watch "THE" blinking traffic light at "THE" intersection....flashing red on the blacktop road we lived on, yellow on the honest to goodness concrete highway that came from the "BIG CITY" and lead to the Big Town in our Parish (for those of you not familiar with the idiosynchracies of Louisiana's constitutional foundation on the Napoleonic code rather than English Common Law read Parish=County)!

Can I come visit someday??? I remember when my grandmother subbed for the Postmistress and she let me come behind the cage and when no one was looking use that big rubber thing to cancel the stamps in outgoing mail. Do they let you do that up there still????


:music: :heart: :music:

Peiwend
03-16-2008, 02:19 PM
Hi Bill,

I'm sure my village looks nothing like Louisiana but the mentality is probably the same.

The two room school is still here but one room is used for pre-school and we sometimes have meetings in the other room. The flashing red light is in a larger village up the road. The little red and white firehall is still here with volunteer firemen hanging around. The old church has been sold and rumour has it that it will soon re-open as a summer art gallery. The community hall is used mostly as a summer theatre. The old general store is now open only in the summer and sells handmade chocolates as well as cappucinos and espressos. The other store is now a summer cafe. The old hotel (at three stories the tallest building) is now a summer B&B with a tea room. Most of the old homes are now summer homes for people from away. The two lighthouses still survive but one is now a small museum. Coke is still only sold in bottles here but they are now called refillable returnable containers.

In the winter, it still looks and feels like a small village. Although most of the buildings have found new uses, at least they are well maintained and still survive. Much better that than the alternative.

By the way, the Napoleonic Code is still the law in Quebec and the Acadians here in the Maritimes still speak the "old French".

______________________________Wendell

Scarefishcrow
03-16-2008, 04:03 PM
Wendell-- That sounds like a lovely place to live. Although I suspect winters can be quite nasty and you seem to have power outages. In Louisiana the french language was dying out to the point that years ago they had a program to bring French teachers to southern Louisiana to try and retain the cultural heritage. My father's ancestors can be traced directly back to Acadia and I have been reading a book dealing with the history of their ouster. My brother has traced the geneaology of our family, at least on my father's side back a number of generations and one of the Melancon families mentioned in the book are direct ancestors.

My father was relatively well educated (finished 8th grade) compared to most of his brothers and sisters (he was born in 1901). I recall as a child visiting his brother, Christoph, on the old family homestead and all the relatives would come, drink that thick black mud of coffee with about half milk to make it drinable and many of them still spoke amongst the older generation in French. They were a hardy people and we visited my Uncle Chris' widow about a year before she died (well into her nineties) and she had gotten up that morning to bake a couple of cakes since we were coming!!! Also longevity on my maternal side with my mother's father dying just shy of 100. We live just across a pasture from my maternal grandparents (my paternal grandparents died long beofre I was born) in a classic exntended family. I realize now that it was a priceless gift to grow up in that environement, even though I didn't realize it at the time. I often long for the peaceful and simple life (with good mail service,though) that your village sounds to have. It is on the coast, or no???

Bill
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Shirl Parker
03-16-2008, 04:14 PM
Wendell, when you say "the old french" do you mean the french like is spoken in Paris? That's the french I learned, and I found it very difficult to understand what was spoken when I was in Quebec (monthly for 3 years).

Pat Isaac
03-16-2008, 04:28 PM
What fun reading about you small towns. As a kid I used to spend summers at my aunt's 100 acre farm and the town was very similar to the towns that you are speaking of. One thing that always intrigued me was the telephone party line. Everybody knew everybody else's business...:lol: My cousins always made fun of me when I tried to do farm chores as I was the "city" girl. I learned lots of things there, but was never able to milk a cow. The cow always looked insulted...:lol:
I had trouble understanding the french in Quebec also.
We have been to Nova scotia and always hoped to go back and also visit PEI. Maybe soon.

Pat

Scarefishcrow
03-16-2008, 04:58 PM
One thing that always intrigued me was the telephone party line. Everybody knew everybody else's business...:lol:
Pat

Ah yes, the venerable 8-party line. Interestingly out ringing partner (one of us was one long the other two short) was my grandparents. My grandmother was a wonderful, but a tad possessive of my Mother and though she was indignant at even the slightest suggestion she would pick up and listen whenever the phone rang, we all knew she did! Anyone growing up in a community that small learned young that if you don't want the entire community to know what you did, then don't do it!!! Interestingly, every afternoon at around 4pm, either we would all go over to my grandparents house "for coffee" or they would come over to ours. Also, first stop on the way home from Sunday morning church services was at Grandma and Granddaddy's "for coffee"! They had a wonderful porch and their hous was built on a little hill up on brick pillars so the back of the house had about 3 feet clearance and crawl space under one corner. Great time playing in the dirt there. Every summer, though, we came to despise that nice front porch when the peas and beans from Grandaddy's garden matured because we all had to help shell them. The peas weren't so bad, but those Butter Beans (sort of like Lima beans) had pods you had to split open with your thumbnail and after several #3 washtubs of Butter Bean shelling, you poor thumbnail ached and was tender for days!!!

Well, so much for trips down memory lane. Hadn't thought about some of that in quite a while.

BTW, Pat, don't worry about the cow milking thing. I was never able to to it either, unless it was with a miliking machine!!

Oh, Oil Pastel, yeah, Oil Pastel. I knew there was something else I was supposed to be talking about!!!!

Pat, those EGOP's. Have you used them yet? I was kind of surprised because they are much firmer than I ever imagined. I assumed they would be softer that Senns and more like oil sticks, but mine aren't. Quite firm. Interestingly, two of the 31 I ordered came as Oil sticks instead of EGOP's. I didn't even have to look at the label to tell the difference; just slight pressure on the oil sticks and you could feel the softness of them. Haven't really done more than make a few marks, but wondered if you had formed an impression of them yet?? I've been rereading my books with chemistry of oils used in art media, and do I recall someone saying Senns are made with Safflour oil??? That would be categorized as a semi-drying oil, not a non-drying oil. You might also be interested in this link to an article about fatty acid loss over time in oil based media (related to ghosts on glass mounted workes or dulling bloom on the surface of works not mounted under glass:

http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/waac/wn/wn21/wn21-1/wn21-106.html

Curious as to what you might think about it.

Bill

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Pat Isaac
03-16-2008, 05:14 PM
:lol: This is a chat thread and we can talk about anything we want.....within reason of course :rolleyes: The memory lane excerpts are really interesting...glad someone else couldn't milk a cow and you were a BOY!! weren't they supposed to be able to do everything?..:p
The little bit that I tried my EGOPs I found them to be harder than I thought, but somewhere between OPs and pigment sticks. I'll probably give them a good try over the next few weeks. My experimenting is a bit on hold because of the show!!:eek: I am a very slow worker.
I looked at that link Bill and was surprised to learn of that situation. Didn't know it existed. I'll check it out more carefully.

Pat

Peiwend
03-16-2008, 05:21 PM
Shirl, a couple of years ago I had a friend staying with me and he travelled around visiting the Acadian communities in the Maritime Provinces. He is originally from Rouen in Normandie but lived for a long time in Paris and now lives in Montreal. He told me the Acadian French was "le vieux francais" or old French. He also said it reminded him of the French he used to hear when visiting his grandparents in the French countryside many years ago. The Acadians arrived here in the seventeenth century and were isolated from France until the latter part of the twentieth century. From what I've heard of Louisiana French it is similar to Acadian French.

I lived in Montreal for over twenty-five years and worked mostly in French. I was working in theatre (mostly classical), the media and teaching. Many of my co-workers were European. The people I worked with tended to enunciate clearly and use correct French. However I too have difficulty with some of the expressions commonly used in Quebec. I also have difficulty sometimes with some Parisian French expressions. If this sounds snobbish it's not meant as such.

_____________________________Wendell

Pat Isaac
03-16-2008, 05:31 PM
I always thought that the French I learned was the academic French and what was spoken in the the countryside and the communities was the vernacular. I found that to be true when I visited Italy last fall. I learned a small amount of Florentine Italian, but this was not spoken in the rural communities. My studio partner is Italian and she says even she can't understand some of the Italian that is spoken in some of the communities, so I guess, it is what you learn and where you were raised.

Pat

Peiwend
03-16-2008, 07:16 PM
Pat, I think that's world-wide. I once worked with an Austrian and a German, and they argued all the time over who spoke better German. Does anyone have trouble understanding English-Canadians, eh? And do New Yorkers speak better English than Bostonians?

________________________Wendell

Scarefishcrow
03-17-2008, 01:16 AM
An then there is Switzerland where you might speak dialects of German, French or Italian depending on where you are, as I understand it.

The old French spoken by the older generations of "Cajuns" was sometimes refoerred to as a "pigeon-french" because it was a combination of old acadian french combined with english words that became incorporated into the language. I love the "Cajun" accent, it has a lilting charm to it that I still love to hear when I get the chance.

I think that academic Foreign Language courses generally teach "High Form" or "Formal" rather than vernacular and dialectic versions. For example, my stepdaugther lives in Cancun and Mexican Spanish is quite different in many ways from the formal Spanish spoken in Spain. But evern there you have many regional dialects that are quite distinct I'm told.

I guess someday I would like to go to the area of old Acadia and see where my North American ancestors came from. It was a very strange situation since in many ways they initially had closer ties with the British than the French provences. They used to refer to the British in french as "My friend my enemy!" and quite actively traded with them.

Well so much for memory lane.

I am trying to learn more about oils and their drying properts (see post in standard thread) and I'm finding some perplexing things. I really don't know exactly what "nondrying" means to tell the truth. Ray Smith classifies Linseed oil as the only significant oil used by artists that is classified as Drying, things like safflower, poppyseed, and walnut oils are considered SeminDrying (????). Also, there is an interraction of certain pigments with the oils such that various pigments affect the "drying time" of oils. On the whole, I think there are a lot of questions about compositional properties of OP that need answering.

More later, perhaps.

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