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scribblet
01-04-2008, 04:58 PM
Hi: this is my moose which is not quite finished yet but would like some advice on what to do or where to go from here.
thanks

hmm okay, no moose try again

hidy
01-04-2008, 06:04 PM
Hi Scriblett, it seems that your lovely moose has become overworked in some places, whilst it is underworked in others. The treeline is working pretty well, but it could use a little work to define it more, particularly where you have used the two different greens under the trees on the right. The colour needs to follow through a little more, so you could perhaps run a little of the bright green into areas of the olive & vice versa. This will make ths area sit a little more harmoniously together.

The moose has lost his subtlety and is overworked, as you may have been putting the paint on, then taking it off again too many times which has left you with a dark outline. Try building the colour up from the outline in to restore some balance - then leave it alone. Of course his eye needs work too.

His antlers could use a little more strength in them also, which will change the compositional dynamics of the painting positively by introducing some strength into the top half of the painting. The other thing that may help is to make the foreground a little richer as it comes forward. This will give the painting a little more depth.

I have fiddled about with it very quickly myself but it is difficult when it is so small. The colours i have used are not right by any means, but i hope it will give you a sense of where you can go with it. Good luck with it and enjoy the learning process that each painting offers you.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Jan-2008/36128-moose.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Jan-2008/36128-moose3_Small.jpg

WaterMike
01-04-2008, 10:55 PM
The shapes of the moose and the antlers look great to me. Maybe you need some darks in the background and some even darkers in the water...

painterbear
01-05-2008, 05:12 AM
Hi Scriblett,
You've had some good advice from Heidi and Mike about adding darks in various places to bring out the form and shapes. They will make a big difference.

Can you tell us how large the painting is, what paper and paints you used, etc.?

Sylvia

scribblet
01-05-2008, 10:33 AM
Thanks for the replies. I used 140# Arches cold pressed, WN and MS Graham paints. It's a 1/4 sheet but didn't paint right to the bottom, probably about 3 inches up.

I had to resize the pic. for an attachment because it wouldn't post with the insert image thingy. I could use photobucket if necessary.

painterbear
01-05-2008, 10:43 AM
I could use photobucket if necessary.

If you want to use PhotoBucket for a larger size image, leave the one you have here above and add only a link to the image on PhotoBucket. That way, people can click on it to see the larger size, but it will still be archived here in Wet Canvas if it changes on PhotoBucket for some reason. :D Be sure to change the title slightly when you save it though. ;)

Sylvia

Brian Barnes
01-05-2008, 04:35 PM
Looks like all it needs is some highlighting and shadow to make it stand out and give 3D form.

Good place to use the ProxaBrush treatment I demo'd in my "Resurrecting Whites" (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=169809&highlight=resurrecting+whites) thread.

Using masking tape, scalpal, and a Proxabrush you could do as follows:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Jan-2008/33172-moose-with-proxabrush.jpg

For his back, scrub gently next to the masking tape and fade outward for a soft edge. On the antlers scrub out little cut out sections.

Then add some more shading, shadow, and reflections and you're done.:)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Jan-2008/33172-moose-with-hilites.jpg

Hope this helps.;)

BrianB

lpb
01-05-2008, 04:49 PM
RE: Proxabrush
Hi, can I jump in with a somewhat tangential question? I found a proxabrush, but the brush part rotates, it is not fixed. It is rather difficult to work with because the brush keeps moving. Is this the way all of them are? It looked like the ones in the pics were fixed in one position.

Brian Barnes
01-05-2008, 04:58 PM
The one I use is as in the picture above. It doesn't rotate. I think it's also known as a travelling proxabrush because it comes with a protective lid (like a pen). The last one I bought came two in a package. Get them at most pharmacies.

I agree if it rotates it would be impossible to use.:(

BrianB

bluegenes
01-05-2008, 06:25 PM
Wow, this really turned out to be an informative thread! :thumbsup: Let us know, Kathy if you try out these suggestions!

Patty

scribblet
01-09-2008, 06:10 PM
Wow, I'll have a go at it but I thought it was really too far overworked. I did add some darks to it as suggested, but it still looks like a kids painting - not painterly.

Great help and thanks.http://img118.exs.cx/img118/2813/y5qartist.gif

hidy
01-09-2008, 07:07 PM
Hi Scriblett, once a painting is overworked there just 'aint much you can do to save it. WC is a delicate and confident art, but i hope that you gained a little extra confidence & knowledge by seeing this painting through - even if it goes to mums or the bin.

We often learn the most by what goes wrong of course and as long as you are able to identify what isnt working, you can make steps to avoid the same mistakes again. That is the process, so good luck.