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artbyjune
01-04-2008, 02:13 AM
:thumbsup: Welcome to the three watercolourists project!

We are going to look at the work of 3 watercolourists: Turner, Klee, and one other painter of your choice.

The aim is to compare the work of the 3 different artists and perhaps copy I or 2 of your favourite paintings from their work. But if you can only manage time to look at the work of 1 watercolourist, I hope you will still join in and share your findings.

Instead of copying, or in addition, you could select a technique or idea taken from one of the watercolourist’s works, and apply it in a composition of your own.

:clap:
To start us off on our watercolour adventure, I will introduce Paul Klee, a 20th century Swiss artist who did innovative work in watercolours, and then Nickel will introduce William Turner, a 19th century British landscape artist.

For the third watercolorist, you can choose any favourite watercolour artist from history or maybe a contemporary artist. A few suggestions are: Samuel Palmer, William Blake, Whistler, Nolde, Schiele, Roualt.

Please tell us which artist(s) you will study for the programme and give a little background or a link to this artist and his/her works so we can all join in the fun!!

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artbyjune
01-04-2008, 02:15 AM
Photo of Paul Klee

artbyjune
01-04-2008, 02:20 AM
A bit about Paul Klee from http://www.brittannica.com (http://www.brittannica.com/) article.

Paul Klee was a gifted violinist and briefly considered music as a career.
The diaries he kept from 1897 to 1918 are valuable documents rich with detailed accounts of his experiences and his observations on art and literature.

In 1899 he was admitted to the Munich Academy, which was then under the direction of Fran von Stuck, the foremost painter of Munich. Stuck was a rather strict academic painter of allegorical pictures, but his emphasis on imagination proved invaluable to the young Klee.

Between 1906 and 1909 Klee became acquainted with the work of the Postimpressionists, van Gogh and Gauguin, and the Belgian artist James Ensor. He also began to explore the expressive possibilities of children's drawings. These influences imparted to his work a freedom of expression and a willfulness of style unusual for the time.

Klee linked cubism with children's art in his work. He was also fond of charicature. These elements resulted in a union of the farcical and the sublime.

Klee's late paintings and drawings are strongly influenced by the harsh distortions of Pablo Picasso's work of the 1920s and '30s. What the Spanish master gave to Klee in these final years was a means of expressing the urgency Klee felt as his health declined. Images of dying and death in last work.

Some techniques:
1. coloured drawings, made by tracing a drawing—usually onto watercolour paper—through a transfer paper coated with sticky black ink or oil paint, and colouring the result. See “Twittering Machine” (1922), which depicts a comic apparatus for making birds sing.

2. pictures made entirely of coloured squares, horizontal striations, or patterns resembling basket weave

3. Taking a line for a walk: polyphonic paintings, where the line captures forms which are then coloured to separate them in the space created by the line.

For images go to

http://www.abcgallery.com/K/klee/klee.html (http://www.abcgallery.com/K/klee/klee.html)

For an article, see

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/klee/hd_klee.htm (http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/klee/hd_klee.htm)


:thumbsup:

artbyjune
01-04-2008, 02:24 AM
A few watercolours by Klee:-

1. Conqueror
2. Hermitage
3. Futureman
4. A young lady's adventure

artbyjune
01-04-2008, 02:26 AM
Hopefully, it will be useful to compare the work of Klee, a non-representational painter, with other more classical/representational painters.

Nickel
01-04-2008, 09:07 PM
Hi June, Hi Everyone!

Let me introduce you to a painter I admire.

"Joseph Mallord William Turner"

This is his self portrait

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Jan-2008/39040-595px-Joseph_Mallord_William_Turner_083.jpg


Oil at the Tate

I call him Turner.
Others shorten his name to J. M. W. Turner
(1775-1851)
He is classifed historically as a British Romantic painter.


There is tons of information on Turner on the Internet and here at WC.

I have a list of external links you can explore his many techniques, his life, his loves, everything you might want to know. I suggest since we are looking at his art that it would be best to start with just looking at what he painted.

While looking at a Turner ask yourself how many times have you been in a verbal conversation with someone, anyone, and to clarify a point, or to help avoid miscommunication, someone, or even you might say, “Let me draw you a picture.” Well, Turner, didn’t communicate clearly with verbal or written words. Turner, however, is one of the most beautiful of artistic souls who used pure art as language. Painting was his poetry, his thoughts, the natural world he lived in communicated with a stroke of his brush.

Here is a perfect example to explore the language of Turner.
This painting is just pure art.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Jan-2008/39040-colour.jpg

Colour Beginning
1819; Watercolor, 22.5 x 28.6 cm; Tate Gallery, London

What more is needed to say, "see the moonbeams?"

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Jan-2008/39040-moonlight.jpg

Moonlight
c. 1840; Watercolor with dabs of body color, 24.5 x 30.3 cm; Tate Gallery, London


What more is needed to say, "do you see the light?"

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Jan-2008/39040-maggiore.jpg

S. Giorgio Maggiore: Early Morning
1819; Watercolor, 22.4 x 28.7 cm; Tate Gallery, London

This is a study I attempted last month.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Jan-2008/39040-39040-42.jpg



Technique

http://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/artist05.html

Additional information

http://www.nationalgalleries.org/whatson/exhibition/5:368/4562
http://fllac.vassar.edu/masterdrawings.html
http://www.turnermuseum.org/
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Joseph_Mallord_William_Turner

artbyjune
01-05-2008, 07:29 AM
Here are a couple of things I painted last month inspired by the art of Paul Klee (one of my favourite painters, I should add!).:D

The first is called 'Circus'- and its based on his method of taking a line for a walk and then applying colour and letting your imagination find the forms. I enjoy this free way of working.

The second is based on his transfer ink drawing method. I used printer's ink to draw/transfer the lines and then coloured with watercolours. The ink was not waterproof and so a mix with the colour happened. I think it would be good to try out oil paint for the lines, with the transfer method, so there would be less mix of the black and the watercolour. This second one was a WDE entry, ATC size, and the challenge was to draw an illustration for Lewis Caroll's 'Alice' books.

artbyjune
01-05-2008, 07:39 AM
BTW, Nickel, the site you recommend for Turner is excellent for introducing many major watercolourists and watercolour techniques. I am going to enjoy rummaging around it.

http://www.handprint.com

Grainne
01-05-2008, 09:27 PM
British watercolourist Michael Chaplin was commissioned by the Tate Gallery in London to make a series of film clips explaining/using Turner's techniques. In fact, he was actually allowed to use some of Turner's pigments and materials.

These film clips can be found here (http://www.tate.org.uk/britain/exhibitions/turnercolourandline/room2_watercolour.shtm)

This page also has a wealth of information about Turner in links on the left.

Enjoy!
Grainne

tyree
01-05-2008, 11:56 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Jan-2008/65063-homer_-in_a_fla_jungle.jpg :wave: hi june & nickel...would it be alright if i did a study of winslow homer, the american naturalist painter? i wasnt quite sure if im following directions correctly:p ...this painting is called 'in a florida jungle' 1886....watercolour...tyree

artbyjune
01-06-2008, 09:16 AM
Hi Grainne. Thanks for popping by. And many thanks for that link to Turner in the Tate. It will be very useful. Will you be posting your own study of a work by Turner?

Hi Tyree. The aim is to study 3 different watercolour painters so you can compare their styles. But that is the highest aim of the project. If you want to study the work of just 1 of your favourite watercolorists that will be great too. I am flexible about it.

The main aim is to do some watercolour painting and a bit of study of a major artist's work.

I would love to hear more about your chosen artist and why you chose this painting. And I am looking forward to your own study of it!!

Have a great time painting!!

tyree
01-06-2008, 01:21 PM
:wave: thanks june...i understand now:o ....i will try studies of the three....now to see if all my watercolours are dried up:p tyree

Nickel
01-06-2008, 06:08 PM
Hi June, glad you like the Handprint link.
I think he has everything anyone would want to know about
much of anything :wave:

I am strecthing paper today and wanted to ask about
taking a line for a walk, how do you do that, where do you start?

I've found out I am a pretty bad paper strecther. But it's only like the third and fourth time. I don't much like to do it, but hey, I am only using 90 pound paper. :angel: :eek:

Grainne thanks for the link :thumbsup: I learned very much~:wave:

Hi Susan, I like the painting you picked out ......:evil: I see that big gator!!!:wave: It's cool!

jasminerose
01-07-2008, 01:18 AM
hi everyone . im new too this and was wondering what do we do ? do we read through the info on the watercolurest and then paint a picture or write about them ? a little confused , hi tyree . good too see you . jasmine

artbyjune
01-07-2008, 09:28 AM
Hi jasmine, welcome to the watercolour project. The main object is to paint something yourself inspired by the work of one of the watercolourists in the list (or perhaps your own favourite watercolourist if s/he is not mentioned here).


You can study just one artist if you like. Or you can study 2 or 3 to compare techniques.

Its all for your own benefit so you have the decision as to how you want to study!!

For the sake of the rest of us following along, we may not know the artist or the painting you have chosen to study and so if you can write a bit about the artist or the painting and why you chose it or give a link to info on the web, we'd be happy to read that.

But if you want to just post your art work with no writing, that's OK too. The main aim is to paint!!!

artbyjune
01-07-2008, 09:36 AM
Nickel, I will get back to you on the taking a line for a walk method. Its rather fun and a lot of interesting images can come from this technique.

If you can find some heavyweight paper, you'll find you don't need to bother with paper-stretching, which can be difficult to do!! Although there is a paper-stretcher on the market which is a board with grooves along the sides and rolls of plastic to fit into the grooves which makes paper-strtching easier. I have one, but I never use it.

I got my paper stretcher board at:-


http://www.artsupplies.co.uk/cat.php?cat_id=44

Nickel
01-07-2008, 05:41 PM
Hi June, here the independent art store in town closed. We have one decent place left for art supplies at a local college, but it is a nightmare to get to because of parking. But if one can park, within a mile, one can have a really good cup of coffee and a bagel while listening to a live band. Most everything I buy is online. That's a whole other story you know :) I saw that paper stretcher board demoed somewhere, You Tube maybe. I am just stapling mine down. I really don't mind the thinner paper. The thicker paper, well, looks a bit thick. :) Silly, right? I am looking forward to learning about walking the line. :)

artbyjune
01-07-2008, 11:01 PM
I think an article on 'walking the line' could be wirtten...have no fear, I won't write one here!! Besides its 4 am. I just hope I write something sensible and useful. :lol:

You can think of it as Klee's method inspired partly by the 'automatic drawing' method of the surrealists.

To get you started, you can break the method down into 2 types.

1. Keeping the line within the picture plane. Don't let it meander off the page.

2. Let the line meander off the page and on again.


Mainly, the line is drawn in an unbroken 'one-go' as it wanders over the page. (But you can do 2 or 3 separate wanderings.)

You can have your line wander mainly in a rectangular set of movements, or in sharp angular turns, or in meandering curves, or a combo, over your page.

It can be quite good if the pen or pencil feels as if its moving over the page by itself, as in the automatic drawing technique.

What do you do when you have your line and its 'walk'? You can experiment with various ways of applying watercolour to complement the line. I'm sure you can come up with many ways. Klee experimented a lot with this.

1. You can lay on washes over the whole page.

2. You can colour in the little boxes or shapes made by the intersecting lines in your work.

3. You can spray paint on the page

You may want to step back from your evolving work to see if imagery is suggested by your net of lines. If you see something in your lines, you can shade using washes or cross-hatching etc to make it more evident.

Alternatively, leave it as an abstract and bring your colours into balance as you see it.

I hope that is sufficient info to get you trying this out. Take a line for a walk over the page!!:D

Here's one of mine which is angular turns and twists for the line and a bit of all over colour wash. I haven't taken it beyond the abstract yet.

artbyjune
01-07-2008, 11:04 PM
Nickel, if you do small watercolours, even on thin paper, you don't really need to stretch the paper. Mainly stretching is required for larger work.

jasminerose
01-08-2008, 06:59 AM
wow thats interesting never seen that before . do we do one off the line drawings now or keep learning more about the artists ? then chosse our method. as you can see im lost already .lol jasmine

Nickel
01-08-2008, 09:16 PM
Jasmine, your not lost, your with us :wave: Just go ahead and paint a painting. I am going to try a line drawing, and a Turner style painting of my backyard. And a few studies of others. I always have good intentions to paint anything and everything. :)

Thanks June, for many things. :heart: Well my little scrap of paper here is all curled and laughing at me, gee, that's ok, I'm going to get my revenge shortly and put paint on it anyway.

I've had a few too many things to do yet this week and look for time tomorrow to start on a few decent painting study to show.


Susan I am looking forward to that gator!!!! :wave:

artbyjune
01-09-2008, 02:13 AM
Hi Jasmine, choice can be confusing, don't I just know it. Often I feel as if I have a hundred things I'd like to do and end up quite frustrated. Basically, I think its good advice to just pick one idea that you particularly like from the thread and do that. We are all learning from each other here!

Lots of ideas will come up but you can just note them as we travel along. Only do the one that really interests you from amongst them.

Talking of papers, Klee and Turner experimented lots with different papers and surfaces. For instance, people might like to try a coloured/tinted paper sometime. Turner liked blue paper. Klee painted watercolours over a chalk ground (gesso) and on muslin.

I won't get around to any new watercolours until Firday I think. Perhaps I will try a Turner-style sunset.

Looking forward to seeing your new paintings everyone!!

Any questions, just ask, and we will answer to the best of our ability.:thumbsup:

jasminerose
01-09-2008, 03:06 AM
wow thankyou for the link too the painting demo ,. I am going too try doing his turner style . thankyou . jasmine

tyree
01-09-2008, 08:51 AM
hi jasmine!!!! looking forward to your turner painting...i thought your horses in the wde turned out wonderful!!!! ill be working on my little project this weekend...thanks nickel and junebug!!!! tyree:wave:

jasminerose
01-11-2008, 04:10 AM
I did this on the style off turner . hope that is what im ment too do ? its a small picture . watercolour . using the method off his puting the paper in water and having a very wet paper and then just dropping in the colour into the wet paper . I really enjoyed doing this style and also reading up on him . thankyou please tell me if this is not right . and give me some ccs . jasminehttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Jan-2008/97398-Friday,_11_January_2008.jpg

jasminerose
01-11-2008, 04:22 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Jan-2008/39040-97398-turner_style_watercolur_painting__.jpg

this one was the other method they had for him it was the resin on the paper first . althogh I dont have that and used the other stuff you use too cover white paper . its ment too be cows in the field and then paint the washes over the the cows and then the rest when that is dry . I tryed too copy his method as much as possible . jasmine

artbyjune
01-11-2008, 09:47 AM
:thumbsup: Hi Jasmine. Good for you!! First to post your Turner studies.

I love your sunset landscape with tree. I think you've really cottoned on to the wet in wet method in this one. The hot red/brown land gives me the impression of the Australian landscape tradition.

With the cows in the field, I think you could vary the fence posts a bit so that some are indistinct to look as if they are fading into the distance. At the moment they are all a bit too similar and as a general rule its good to have some variety.

You could easily remedy this by brushing over the distant fence posts with clean water and then dabbing with kitchen paper towelling to lift off some of the brown colour.

Did you use brown straight from the pan or tube? Sometimes its a good idea to mix brown from colours you already use in the painting, e.g., green mixed with red gives nice variety in browns.

You could go on and copy a 'Turner', if you like. Its best to start by copying one with not too much going on in the picture. Simple shapes and not too many different colours.

Looking forward to more wet-in-wet paintings from you.:clap:

artbyjune
01-11-2008, 10:23 AM
:) Hi everyone. I manged to do a couple of 'Turner' inspired watercolours- yesterday and today.

The first is a rough copy of a Turner view of 'Nantes'. I picked this one because its on blue paper and the washes looked interesting. I wanted to try out coloured paper for watercolours. I used a grey pastel paper.

I was amazed at how much Turner could suggest by a little dab here and there. Not that my dabs are much good, I'm afraid!! Still it was fun to try.:lol:

The second is a wet-in-wet landscape from a photo of fields in morning mists, in the English countryside. Not sure if it succeeds actually.

For my third artist, I think I'll pick William Blake...some figures for a change of pace.:D

jasminerose
01-11-2008, 04:12 PM
wow they are awsome june . did you paint right up too the edge off the paper or is it a trimed picture ? how did you get the paint so close too the edges ? they are very lovely , misty . im not having much luck at getting that misty feeling on my pictures . too get the colur depth and the mist is hard . thankyou about my pictures . I will try that with the fence and also try some copying off his work too . I love that site we went too too see how he did his work , hes a great painter but so would I be if I did as much as him so I dont feel too bad that im not that good its all learning isent it . yes I did use the brown from the tube . yes thankyou I will try doing that a good tip . jasmine

artbyjune
01-12-2008, 01:48 AM
Hi Jasmine and many thanks for commenting.

I trimmed the pictures to show but they are painted to the edges anyway.

Are your paintings from life, imagination, or from photos?

I agree with you about Turner, his work is brilliant...and he painted so many...he must have painted a masterpiece a day. I was just thinking about that after flicking through a book on his travel painting. He seems to have spent lots of time on trips abroad...in France and so on, travelling about sketching. Sounds like a great way to spend the time.:wink2:

I haven't checked out the video site yet. I am on dial-up still. So I may not actually be able to view them. More's the pity. But I am glad you liked the video and are inspired by them.:thumbsup:

Jacek
01-12-2008, 04:07 AM
Hi June, what a wonderful Turner’s game of light! You managed to obtain such a nice softness with reduced colour scheme.
This project is very tempting. I wish to participate and give a try to follow your description of Klee’s painting manner - Taking a line for a walk. I always admired him. Hope it would be possible this weekend.

jasminerose
01-12-2008, 04:23 AM
hi june my pictures are from a magazine . its an art mag that we have here in australia and they were someones paintings that were featured in the magazine . jasmine

artbyjune
01-12-2008, 07:34 AM
Hi Jacek and welcome. I hope you will join in with the project and I look forward to your klee-inspired paintings. I love Paul Klee's work.

Hi jasmine, were the paintings you studied originally in watercolours or some other medium...just wondering.

See you all later!

Jacek
01-12-2008, 06:33 PM
So this is result of my try to follow Klee’s painting manner - Taking a line for a walk.
I hope he would forgive me watching it from above … :rolleyes:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jan-2008/32077-Klee2_resize.jpg


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jan-2008/32077-Klee4_resize.jpg

Light grain drawing paper 20x30cm, ink and watercolous

jasminerose
01-13-2008, 03:48 AM
love that jakey . wow its turned out fantastic . when im better im going too give that a try . the pain im in at the moment is too bad too do any art today . I think it may have been acyrilic ill go and cheak it . dose it make a diffrence ? jasmine

jasminerose
01-13-2008, 03:51 AM
jacey how did you do that ? it is fantastic . love how it turned out . im still not sure how you take the line for a walk is it a peice of string or your imagination? thankyou jasmine

Jacek
01-13-2008, 04:22 AM
Jasmine, I try to follow June instructions on Klee manner of 'walking the line'. The way I draw the line is a play between the planned rule and freedom of letting it go its way. I draw the line quickly and spontaneously, but in certain rhythm of changing direction and distortions at these points (meander). You are right it is a kind of “string or imagination”
As June advised, I try to do it in unbroken 'one-go'

You can think of it as Klee's method inspired partly by the 'automatic drawing' method of the surrealists.
...
Mainly, the line is drawn in an unbroken 'one-go' as it wanders over the page. (But you can do 2 or 3 separate wanderings.)
You can have your line wander mainly in a rectangular set of movements, or in sharp angular turns, or in meandering curves, or a combo, over your page.
It can be quite good if the pen or pencil feels as if its moving over the page by itself, as in the automatic drawing technique.


I like you brave Turners. I would try it once too.
Good luck with Klee! :)
I wish you get better and overcome the pain or at least that painting will help you to forget about it for some time

jasminerose
01-13-2008, 04:47 AM
thankyou very much . yes art dose help me too forget my pain . infact without it I would find life very tiresome . but mainly I have God too heal me . jasmine

artbyjune
01-13-2008, 06:07 AM
Hi Jacek, what marvellously playful paintings!! Lots of movement and celebration in them. I am very certain Klee would approve! I hope you will try a 'Turner' style. Looking forward to that.

Hi Jasmine, I hope you will try 'taking a line for a walk' when you are feeling better. I do hope the pains disappear soon!


See you later.

Jacek
01-13-2008, 09:26 AM
Thanks June for encouraging comments :) Glad you like my wandering lines!
Hm… Turner, very tempting, but rather unreachable. However I admire him most.
At the moment here are two more Klee’s bit more daring

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jan-2008/32077-Klee5x.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jan-2008/32077-Klee1x_resize.jpg

Goldenoriole
01-13-2008, 11:43 AM
Hi Nickel
Loved the way you described Turner's style-'Painting was his poetry'.Very often we struggle to describe that intangible/beautiful elements in creations we see and paint but are not able to-you have done it for Turner's creations very aptly
am new to the world of painting as well as wetcanvas.will be trying to borrow and learn from Turner's style in my study

tyree
01-13-2008, 02:55 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jan-2008/65063-old_man_wc.jpg :wave: this is an ink and w/c of mine...its not recent...but, i thought it similar to klee's style...i use this style still in my pencil work of darks and lights and odd geometric shapes...ive been enjoying jacek's line of kites!!!....i hope to have examples of turners and homers soon...tyree

jasminerose
01-13-2008, 08:51 PM
i love that tyree . and jacey your pictures are awsome . im going too give that a try . jasmine

jasminerose
01-13-2008, 09:06 PM
kacek, wow awsome . I just went and saw your website . you are an amazing artist ! I love your style off work . something for me too work towards one day I hope . how long have you been painting and what is your style called and is there a book that I can get too try your style off work ? its so free and easy and lots of colur and expresion . i love it . thanks jasmine

artbyjune
01-14-2008, 05:27 AM
Hi Tyree, I love your ink and watercolour painting. Jacek, 2 more inspired by Klee. Lovely work. A sense of freedom.

Goldenoriole, welcome, and we look forward to viewing your artwork!!

Nickel
01-14-2008, 11:20 AM
Hi Jasminerose I am glad to see your paintings. Bravo! I like the fence painting! :thumbsup:

Hi Jacek, your lines & kites have life! I've enjoyed seeing their travels! Bravo ! :thumbsup:


Hi Goldenoriole, welcome, and thank you. Together, let's make some poetry in paint! :wave:

Hi Susan, Cool Beans ;) painting! I do like this style from you. It is very different than your more recent paintings. I love everything you do!!! :wave:

Hi June, Your paintings are so misty! So romantic! I so enjoy them!:thumbsup:

I'll be posting soon! :wave: Nickel

jasminerose
01-16-2008, 03:29 AM
thankyou Nickle jasmine

Nickel
01-18-2008, 10:28 PM
These lines took a walk and Ralphie had his eye put out
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jan-2008/39040-4.jpg

tyree
01-19-2008, 08:55 PM
nickel....wow...yours too is a different style for you, but i love it,,,nice fluid movement with the lines and terrific colour combinations....good job!!!! tyree :clap: :clap: :clap:

artbyjune
01-19-2008, 10:48 PM
Its beautiful Nickel. It reminds me of a sunset over the sea.
And also reminiscent of a Klee work: 'Woman in a peasant dress' 1940, for style of line.

Jacek
01-19-2008, 11:57 PM
Hi nickel, the lines and colors have good fun together :music:

Jacek
01-20-2008, 12:03 AM
lines went dancing... :music::music::music:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Jan-2008/32077-JK_aq_Lisboa2xx.jpg

WN watercolor on Arches 300g Rough paper 28x36cm

artbyjune
01-21-2008, 01:00 AM
I love the dance!!

azulparsnip
01-21-2008, 03:14 PM
June - the purple yellow landscape is interesting , unusual. The Klee studies are marvelous,

Jack - your line walking is a good demo - I thind the dimension the white added to the line is wondersful

Jasmine - your are off to a great start with the turners

Nickel - woah.......that is complicated the wavy lines and blue/green is invocative of water, and from there my imagination takes a loooong walk........fun

I want to watch the video link on Turner posted by Grainne before I study one of his but I just gotta walk a line tonight......!!!!! Want to finish one Millais I started for the other " pre raphaelite" thread.

I have been sooo busy, not creating at all an am feeling kinda flat for it.

Nickel
01-21-2008, 10:50 PM
Azul good to hear from you! You've been missed Big hug!:heart:

Susan, June, Jacek, thank you for the comments.

Jacek I need to put on my dancing shoes :)

Your line do indeed feel gay and light and have a fanciful rhythm :thumbsup:

Jasminerose are you doing anymore paintings?

I still owe one to illustrate a poem. I finally found my poem, lost in a book, but found now. Painting is kind of like eating a big festive dinner, you want some of everything, but there is just not enough room to eat it all, lol, unless you really like to feel uncomfortable & over full for a few hours later.

Jacek
01-21-2008, 11:21 PM
Thanx June, Jasmine, Nickel and Azul for your kind comments,
After weekend dancing, Klee lines went back to work :D

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2008/32077-jkrenz_chiado_026.jpg

WN watercolor on Arches 300g Rough paper 28x36cm

artbyjune
01-22-2008, 02:41 AM
I love the fragmented nature of the colour in your latest, Jacek. How do you make the white lines? Is it wax/oil pastel resist or white gouache? Or maybe soft pastel?:thumbsup:

Azul, I am looking forward to seeing your walking line. Its a relaxing, meditative way to paint, I feel. I hope you find the time to get back into your art in a big way soon.:wave:

Jasmine, Are you going to take a line for a walk?? We'd love to see it.:heart:

After all this, I feel I ought to take some new lines out for a walk soon. :lol:

I have been looking at some watercolours by William Blake, the 19th century English poet/painter. Petrhaps he is best known for his often quoted 'Tyger, Tyger, burning bright, in the forests of the night'...poem.

I don't know whether to make a copy of one of his works or whether to illustrate one of his poems?? Maybe by the weekend I'll have something to post.:D

tyree
01-22-2008, 09:14 PM
jacek,,,these are wonderful,,,love the flow and colours...super....~~~hi azul...looking forward to seeing something from you!!!.....hi nickel and junebug...got this great new book from the library 'power of art' by simon schama ...has histories and paintings of caravaggio, bernini, rembrandt,david, turner, and van gogh,picasso and rothko...wonderful book...if anyone is interested...i will give you a quote from book about turner..."above anything else he was a dramatist of light, the most stupendous britain has ever produced'....tyree:wave:

jasminerose
01-23-2008, 07:17 AM
Yes thankyou nickel ive done a line painting at last . but its not very good . for one thing im still trying too get the blue out off my background . whenever I do a scan picture it leaves this blue haze on the background . see what you think . jasminehttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Jan-2008/97398-Wednesday,_23_January_2008_2_painting_line.jpg

jasminerose
01-23-2008, 07:18 AM
I am going too do another one it is really relaxing isent it . jasmine

jasminerose
01-23-2008, 07:23 AM
Tyree, yes i would love too cheak out that book . thankyou .I will ask around for it when was it in print ? thankyou from jasmine

tyree
01-23-2008, 06:25 PM
jasmine,,,, i love that painting,,,fantastic!!!! great design, beautiful colour...(that book was printed in 2006)....tyree :clap: :clap: :clap:

jasminerose
01-23-2008, 08:27 PM
thankyou tyree . ill look for it online . this is the same painting but some stuff added today .http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Jan-2008/97398-Thursday,_24_January_2008_walking_the_line.jpg

jasminerose
01-23-2008, 08:33 PM
this one is a pastel colur since I love pastel colur . jasminehttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Jan-2008/97398-Thursday,_24_January_2008_3_line_walking_pastel.jpg

jasminerose
01-23-2008, 08:36 PM
im on a roll now I think im going too make another one today as im so loving doing this its so relaxing and helps my pain . thanks guys for this class ive absoultely loved it . and I have learned heaps about the artists. thankyou for your kindness giving us your time freely like this too help us improve . jasmine

Jacek
01-24-2008, 01:23 AM
Hi Jasmine, I love your Klee paintings. I see you managed to get rid of blue haze in the first one. The pastel one, so beautifully delicate is much in his color palette. I am looking forward too see more! :clap:

Jacek
01-24-2008, 01:31 AM
Thank you Tyree and June, glad you like it! This project is realy inspiring and a lot of fun!
I love the fragmented nature of the colour in your latest, Jacek. How do you make the white lines? Is it wax/oil pastel resist or white gouache? Or maybe soft pastel?:thumbsup:

The white lines are drown by oil pastel.
:wave:

artbyjune
01-24-2008, 02:39 AM
Jacek, oil pastel resist with watercolour is one method I am interested in trying out soon. Maybe a project on this coming up next month or the one after! Henry Moore (UK) used the resist technique in his 'bomb shelter' drawings. Very effective.

Jasmine, I am so glad you are enjoying the 'take a line for a walk' method of Paul Klee. I find it so enjoyable and relaxing too. I think because I can use the colours without having to worry about likeness to objects. I find it a good way to learn about the pigments in your box, and mixes of hues.

And I love your lyrical sweeping designs. The pastel colours are beautiful. .. so delicate. The stronger coloured drawing has an interesting spatial quality.
The red seems to recede and the blue comes forward. The little spots at the top in the red remind me of a figure.

I haven't been doing watercolours this week so far. Maybe Saturday.

fala
01-24-2008, 03:05 PM
I have been reading this thread with interest and decided to try one of Klee's methods. I hope it is all right to jump in here:) It has a few touches of colored pencil.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/24-Jan-2008/89214-Klee,_Daisies,_postcard.jpg

Jacek
01-24-2008, 04:36 PM
Absolutely great composition of Klee lines and colours, Annette!

artbyjune
01-25-2008, 12:02 PM
Beautiful work, annette. I love the way the lines cross the daisies and it produces a change of tone.

azulparsnip
01-27-2008, 09:29 AM
Jasminrose - that really changed the painting, couldn't tell it was the same one,

Fala - looks like the daisys are moving

Here is mine titled What would you do with a Pony tail? but I am not pleased with the overall composition......it falls flat....

artbyjune
01-27-2008, 04:24 PM
Its a beautiful sweeping abstract, Azul. Not sure what you mean when you say it falls flat. Could be you are too near to it. Or maybe you might want to think about making a few areas slightly darker in tone? Or add a few hatching lines? Actually, I think it works very well as is. It has a wonderful dream-like, surreal, quality.:clap:

jasminerose
01-27-2008, 08:05 PM
Here is another one I did . http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Jan-2008/97398-Monday,_28_January_2008_taking_line_walking.jpg

jasminerose
01-27-2008, 08:08 PM
still cant get that cropping tool too work . I love your flowers fala they look like they are danceing and so happy the yellow really adds too the happyness in them . love them . jasmine

jasminerose
01-27-2008, 08:10 PM
azulp love your wild abstract look its free and easy . awsome jasmine

azulparsnip
01-28-2008, 02:20 PM
June - Yes, thanks for the suggestions!!!.......what I meant by flat was that when I looked at it nothing stood out and my eye was not encouraged to meander, and you were right - the tones all being medium made it flat.......I have a long way to go to have the abilities I'd like but it is a joyful journey nevertheless........here I added some crosshatch and darkened some areas with ink......I procured a small book on Palmer.....He'll be my next colorist to study.

Jasminerose - thankyou, and unusual color combo on the triangleland, I love the effect of an angled view/ I'm - standing-on my-head sort of feeling......

artbyjune
01-28-2008, 03:50 PM
Azul, your painting has good impact and definition now, I think. Glad you are enjoying your watercolour journey. Palmer is a watercolour artist I admire too.:wink2:

Jasmine, I like your recent angular painting. I think you have definitely got the 'take a line for a walk' bug!!:clap:

artbyjune
01-29-2008, 09:53 AM
:) This morning I got the urge to start my copy of one of William Blake's works. I'm working from a tiny illustration in a book but I did my initial drawing a bit bigger...around 6 by 8ins maybe. The original painting is titled: 'God blessing the 7th day'. I think I'll search for a bigger copy of it on the web.

I hope to get around to the watercolour tomorrow, or this week sometime, at any rate. Its the first Blake work I've copied- very enjoyable to do.

I love the design of this work by Blake and as I copied it, I could feel the influence of Michelangelo on Blake- in the limbs and the profiles.:wave:

artbyjune
01-30-2008, 09:57 AM
OK. I coloured the graphite sketch of the Blake copy with watercolour to seehow it would turn out. (Its on heavy-weight cartridge, about 8 by 12ins, as it turned out).

It was enjoyable to paint...but if I were to do it again, I'd do it on watercolour paper. The cartridge paper didn't stay wet for a wet-in-wet approach.

I like the Victorian-style design of the image though!:wave:

Has anyone else picked a 3rd watercolourists to study? (Apart from azul and also nickel, I think, doing Samuel Palmer?)

mimitabby
01-30-2008, 11:53 AM
I have been enthralled by Turner for quite some time. Thank you so much Nickel for the link to the Handprint article about him.
I have to quote some of what he wrote:
"Turner's subtle method of building up color into a prismatic haze. The basic value composition of dark blue mountain and yellow sky was laid down in broad foundation washes of muted color that were sponged, wiped or brushed out to modulate the color mixtures and luminosity. Over this still damp image Turner then applied light, drybrush strokes of more saturated paint thickened with gum vehicle to shade forms, modulate colors, define edges and smooth transitions; as the painting dried he also used touches of water and breadcrumbs to wet and then lift away paint to make tints or highlights. He finished with a painstaking texture of stippled dots and dashes to model the foreground forms and clarify details."

Here's the Blue Rigi the painting being discussed:
http://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/IMG/PAINTERS/turner4.jpg
I guess I'm going to try and do a Turner-esque painting. I have done some already, what I'll call auras, but I never did them with a series of washes. That might enhance the way the colors come out.

Nickel
01-30-2008, 02:59 PM
Fala I like the way your painting makes me happy!
The lines are so unexpected, delightful!

Jasminrose I like seeing how your lines explore the paper.
They have a real energy!


Jacek your paintings, wow, you've got feeling that abounds out of each one.

Azulparsnip your lines hide stories I always enjoy. I look for them. They are unique and special.

June, You are so adventerous! I should say your art lives on the wild side! :)
I've not got to Palmer yet. I will explain.

Mimitabby, that's some painting! Are you going to try a study of that one?

I have to admit anytime I go researching an artist, or artists, I am always like a child in a candy store wanting to experience each candy I come upon. It's horrid in that I loose track of my orginal intent...:eek: Oh well, I am an original serendipitous traveler.

Really, I am not much of a watercolor artist. I struggle fighting the media with every stroke of the brush. I've not given up, I seem to think it may take a few years to find my way. :D

Here are some of the people and work I've been looking at. Some of them you will have to follow a link off site to see their work or read more about them.

I'll start off with Durer's Young Hare
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durer

I've always wanted to do a study of this rabbit.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Jan-2008/39040-540px-Durer_Young_Hare.jpg

1502, Watercolour and bodycolour (Albertina).

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Jan-2008/39040-nature_durer_largeturf_lg.jpg

Albrecht Dürer, The Large Turf, 1503, watercolor and gouache on paper, 41 x 32 cm, Graphische Sammlung Albertina, Vienna.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Jan-2008/39040-durer-wing-of-roller.jpg

Albrecht Dürer, Wing of a Roller, 1512, watercolor and gouache on vellum, 20 x 20 cm, Graphische Sammlung, Vienna.

From here, Susan you will find more Florida Alligators :)
And June this painting by Sargent used a wax resist for the alligator's teeth.



John Singer Sargent (American, born in Italy, 1856-1925), Muddy Alligators, 1917, watercolor over graphite on off-white wove paper, Worcester Art Museum, MA.

Click here to visit the painting and read more.
http://www.worcesterart.org/Collection/American/1917.86.html

And this artists' watercolor is described as "Audubon-on-Viagra"



Walton Ford
(American, 1960-),

Falling Bough, 2002, watercolor, gouache, ink and pencil on paper, 60 3/4 x 119 1/2 inches, private collection, TN.
http://www.kellysalerno.com/art21/images/image50.jpg



http://nymag.com/nymetro/arts/art/n_7839/

If I haven't bored everyone, I've a few more I could show & tell :wave:

mimitabby
02-01-2008, 11:41 PM
Well, I finally finished my Turneresque painting.
I copied the idea of the Blue Rigi
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/entertainment_enl_1172759995/img/1.jpg

with our own Mt Rainier on 12x116" 300 lb arches. it was fun. In my version the ducks are being admired, not shot.
:D. i have NO idea how he got it to look so brilliant. My painting has similar values, and many layers of wash, but
still, no comparison.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Feb-2008/73379-turneresque.jpg

artbyjune
02-02-2008, 08:06 AM
Hi Mimi, you've done a wonderful job. You've captured a softer light than Turner and I think it works beautifully in your painting.

Nickel
02-05-2008, 03:01 PM
Mimitabby, your painting turned out very well. I like the misty clouds back toward Mt. Rainier! I think you did good! :thumbsup: The only way I've learned to find brilliant light in painting is to place light next to a dark. Turner was just terrific in finding those lights and making them magical! I've often wondered what it would have been like to live before pollution, electric lights, and other things that make our light we paint in today different.

azulparsnip
02-10-2008, 10:56 AM
Nickel, those are very glorious Durer's............I know whatcha mean about that candy store!!!!!

Mimi - great job on the landforms and mist

Well, I finished the book on Samuel Palmer, now to copy one of the works. It seemed like Palmer was always in someone's shadow. Turner's stuff made it big in the exhibits and Linnell, his instructor was helping "finish" his stuff. He was a wonderful artist though. Maybe he wasn't too concerned with all this because he kept on making and growing in his art.

June, I envy you getting to see the real pieces.

azulparsnip
02-10-2008, 10:57 AM
June, the Blake is lively and has your happy warmth glossed all around.

azulparsnip
02-17-2008, 12:44 PM
I was not satisfied with the Ponytail piece inspired by Klee so I went after it again here. .

I'm presently working on Sleeping Beauty by Burne-Jones for the preraphaleite thread.

artbyjune
02-18-2008, 05:29 AM
Hi azul, the ponytail image is beconing more complex and engrossing. Very fine. And I am looking forward to the 'sleeping beauty'.

fala
02-18-2008, 12:16 PM
I like ponytail better every time. It is a facinating painting.

I have been peeking in from time to time, but I have been sick and in the hospital. So forgive me me for lack of participation, please!

Nickel
02-19-2008, 08:35 PM
Azulparsnip, I like this painting. It's a happy painting I think and it makes me look, and look and look. About Palmer, I'd like to spend some time to study and read more about him.

Fala, I hope you are feeling better. http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2008/39040-FeelBetterSoon.gif