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haridasa67
08-20-2007, 07:30 AM
I was in a local art-supplies shop the other day, just browsing around, when I came across this section of open stock oil pastels called Erengi. They are from China and seemed to be with a fairly good consistency.

Almost all shops online in the USA are out-of-stock with Erengi. Now, either its a high-selling brand or its been collectively(and quietly) taken off the shelf by retailers in USA for some reason.

Does anyone have any experience with this brand? Lightfastness, permanency?
Just thought to get some info on these pastels.
Thanks
Anoop

LJW
08-20-2007, 09:59 AM
Hi, Anoop. I'm sorry I haven't heard of these, so I can't say what they're like. The general consensus among us in the OP forum is that Sennelier, Holbein Artist, Caran d'Ache and Cray-Pas Specialist are the only professional OPs available. Most other OPs are quite waxy and, therefore, hard to blend. Jane

starblue
08-20-2007, 01:07 PM
The latest Jerry's catalog has introduced Erengi's (so they're coming to the US market, not leaving it). They're claimed to be artist's quality. Pricewise they're roughly on par with Specialists and have open stock. As of early August they weren't yet available online or in stores yet. That's all I know.

BTW, here's a link to them: Erengi's at Jerry's (https://www.jerrysartarama.com/art-supply-stores/online/6494). There's no direct link from their Oil Pastel intro page, I had to search their site to find it.

Andi Rebirth
08-20-2007, 01:50 PM
I saw those on asw which is part of Jerry's, I was suspicious because of the price. I use senn. and nothing else anymore. It says they are artists quality but so do alot of other brands. I could not find a list of what was in them...ratio or otherwise. I too was curious.

Pat Isaac
08-20-2007, 05:44 PM
I am not familiar with them, but if they are inexpensive, then the quality is probably not artist. That is not to say that they might not be good to try.

Pat

pumkin54
05-25-2009, 02:55 PM
Sorry to revive an ancient thread, but since I had a similar question, I figured others might still be wondering too. I thought I would share the results of some of my research.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Fine-Art-Oil-Pastels-are-Worth-the-Cost
This comprehensive comparison of different oil pastels includes a dedicated analysis just on Erengis (about halfway down the page, but the whole thing's worth a read). It convinced me to splurge and buy a box.

http://www.explore-oil-pastels-with-robert-sloan.com/erengi_review.html
This has a sort of blog post on an artist's experience experimenting with Erengis. He too convinced me to buy a box.

Hope that helps and sorry if dead thread revival is a no-no.

Pam

Scarefishcrow
05-25-2009, 06:19 PM
Pam, Thanks for the links and welcome to the Oil Pastel Channel and forums!

Do you like the Erengis? Below is some info on where to find What.

Just to help you get oriented to this place, click on the link in my signature line called <GO FIRST> (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7172380&postcount=1) and it will take you to a thread that contains links and overviews of all the subforums in this Channel and what is in each one. There are also links to basic OP info and guidelines about posting, critiques, etc.

The following link contains an annotated list of links by topic discussed for recent threads that deal with issues commonly asked by people starting out in OP. Looking through those with give you some additional insight into materials, techniques and various issues dealing with OP:

<FAQs LINKS> (http://wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7494753&postcount=1)

That should save you some time searching around.

This place is great because there are people of all experience levels and we try to have everyone help everyone else. So if there is any way we can help, we will do our best to assist you.

If you have any questions, just start a thread in the OP Talk (http://wetcanvas.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=432)forum and ask away. In the OP Talk forum is a weekly thread called the Oil Gusher which is a thread started each Monday that is a"no topic" thread. People can just say hi, let others know what's going on in their life, catch up on what going on with others, or just meet folks.

Hope you share the fun of working in OP with us! Lots of
Look forward to seeing your work around the forum!!

Welcome to the OP Family!

Bill:thumbsup:



Sorry to revive an ancient thread, but since I had a similar question, I figured others might still be wondering too. I thought I would share the results of some of my research.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Fine-Art-Oil-Pastels-are-Worth-the-Cost
This comprehensive comparison of different oil pastels includes a dedicated analysis just on Erengis (about halfway down the page, but the whole thing's worth a read). It convinced me to splurge and buy a box.

http://www.explore-oil-pastels-with-robert-sloan.com/erengi_review.html
This has a sort of blog post on an artist's experience experimenting with Erengis. He too convinced me to buy a box.

Hope that helps and sorry if dead thread revival is a no-no.

Pam

halthepainter
05-27-2009, 11:59 AM
I'm new to oil pastels and purchased a set of Farber Castell's and didn't care for them and subsequently bought a 50 set of Erengi and a 36 set of Gray Pas, Specialists and a basic set of 8 Senneliers.

My favorites are the Sennelier and to me the other two sets are fairly comparable. If I had to choose between the two, would probably go with the Specialists.

Just remember I'm a new guy without a lot of experience. I'm still just learning.

truck driver
05-27-2009, 07:52 PM
I'm a new guy without a lot of experience. I'm still just learning.

Me TOO!

rg

pumkin54
05-28-2009, 03:44 AM
I ended up buying two sets of 50 Erengis. They're on sale right now at Jerry's for 19.99, plus I had a coupon! 15.99 each! :D Never used oil pastels, so I hope I like them since I bought two boxes... >.> Very impatient for them to arrive. It feels like Christmas.

PS: Here's the link if anybody's interested. Not sure how long they'll be on sale.
http://www.jerrysartarama.com/discount-art-supplies/Pastels/Oil-Pastels/Erengi-ArtAspirer-Oil-Pastels-and-Sets/Erengi-ArtAspirer-Oil-Pastel-Sets.htm

Edit: Wait, I take that back. About 5 years ago, I bought a few Senneliers, but I wasn't really sure what to do with them. I remember they were very soft and liked to get everywhere but where I wanted them to go. I hope these Erengis aren't the same way.

Pat Isaac
05-28-2009, 07:44 AM
Welcome to the OP forum, pumpkin. I hope you like your new OPs, and they are harder than the Senneliers.
Looking forward to your posts.

Pat

Scarefishcrow
05-28-2009, 11:38 AM
I ended up buying two sets of 50 Erengis. They're on sale right now at Jerry's for 19.99, plus I had a coupon! 15.99 each! :D Never used oil pastels, so I hope I like them since I bought two boxes... >.> Very impatient for them to arrive. It feels like Christmas.

PS: Here's the link if anybody's interested. Not sure how long they'll be on sale.
http://www.jerrysartarama.com/discount-art-supplies/Pastels/Oil-Pastels/Erengi-ArtAspirer-Oil-Pastels-and-Sets/Erengi-ArtAspirer-Oil-Pastel-Sets.htm

Edit: Wait, I take that back. About 5 years ago, I bought a few Senneliers, but I wasn't really sure what to do with them. I remember they were very soft and liked to get everywhere but where I wanted them to go. I hope these Erengis aren't the same way.



Everyone has their own personal bias and it depends on how you work and what you are comfortable with. I personally find uses for everything from CP Specialists to Senns. I think the Erengi will be a good, economical compromise between firmness and blendability. The next step up the scale might be toward Caran d'Ache NeoPastels which are similar is size and shape to the Erengi but a bit creamier.

Let us know how you like them!

Bill:thumbsup:

Tom Perry
05-29-2009, 02:42 PM
I bought a wood box set of the Erengi Art Aspirer At my local Jerry's. The set contains 90 colors and two set of clear medium extenders/blenders .

I think they are softer than the specialists and a very good buy. I use the specialists as for underpainting and the Erengis when striving for a little more detail then finish up with the Senneliers for hilights and accents.

pumkin54
06-03-2009, 01:20 AM
Got my Erengis today! Don't have anything to compare them to since, other than that brief stint with the Senneliers, I haven't used OPs before. I like how they're not as uncontrollable as the Senns were (to me). The colors are very bold and bright, they blend very nicely. I tried both a Van Gogh colorless blender and linseed oil. The oil > blender. Now I just have to, um, learn how to paint and come up with some ideas for subjects! :D

lisaastrup
01-24-2012, 06:50 AM
bumping this old thread, I would like some fresh comments on the
OP's, please ? :wave:

halthepainter
01-24-2012, 09:34 AM
Lisa, my Erengis are my go to oil pastels. I have a large set and use them or Gray Pas for most of my paintings. They are a bit on the firm side but since I tend to apply my strokes rather firmly, I don't mind them being a bit firm.

I have been using my Erengis for a couple of years now and am content with them. I will use a few Senneliers now and then for final layers, but not often.