View Full Version : True fire panel
08-01-2007, 02:52 PM
The Monster Laptop company here, recently asked me to paint a few true fire laptop covers for them. I started painting a relatively big panel first and then decided to give it to the shop owner as a present, so that they can display it on the shop wall. Here is how it looks at the moment. The final clearing has not been applied yet, I just used a rattle can varnish to fix the layers I painted so far, then lightly brushed it with a horse hair brush. I think I like the look and leave it like this. It has a blast feel to it, as if the flames coming forward in the middle...The first three pics show it in daylight and before brushing the surface. The last two were taken indoors, that's why the colors look slightly different. I think brushing took away some powerful yellows and overall it looks better balanced.
It was painted on the laminated side of a 4mm thick MDF panel...I used both some opaque and transparent acrylic auto as the paint and a double action Sata Graph 3, with 0,2mm nozzle, as the airbrush. I am not happy with their service in my country at all, but I love the quality of the brand and cannot give up using their airbrushes...
08-01-2007, 04:46 PM
hi there optic,well heres a contradiction but i hope i can explain my view?
i like real flame and some are better than others what also creeps in is individual style and i personaly like what you have done as it is a little stylized which may be against it as real flame becouse its not ment to be stylized
well that how i view it and i would say dont try to hard to become another mike lavelee as what is always needed is individuality
i like your style i would have it on my car bike or whatever above all i like the colours im seeing on my moniter
ps the satagraph 3 is a rebadged harder steenbeck evolution as sata do not make thier own airbrushes and is much cheaper sold by harder agents, all spares are available readily from genesis art chicago USA www.chicagoairbrushsupply.com take a look at the infinity brush its the latest version of the evolution also check out the fine pressure control valve for your sata 3
fantastic service a third cheaper than german suppliers.
An evolution/satagraph 2in1 thats a 0.2 and 0.4 set up with two cups 2mm 5mm is only £87 from germany
you can also get a 0.15 set up for your brush either the evolution or better still fit an infinty set up with special needle cap
the satagraph 2 is a triplex by gabert of leipzig germany also much much cheaper than the rebadged sata version
08-01-2007, 05:20 PM
Thank you for your comment, you made it well.. clear enough, don't worry, and I agree with you. I know there are many people following Mike Lavalle and you know me, I guess everyone generally finds my work optic style, it comes naturally. Tru fire trend has found its customers in Istanbul too and there is a demand that gives some some direction to artists' choices...Thanks for your support, I guess the title came just normal when writing it, and probably I wasn't careful enough. Perhaps just to say "Fire panel" would have been better as I did it at some other forums and on youtube, after I posted this here.:o
Many thanks for the info about the airbrush types, good to see someone with the knowledge of... well... mostly European brands...I am planning to buy a Harder and Steinbeck, as they aren't sold here I was going to order one from Germany, but now I heard where I can get it cheaper..Thanks for the useful info once again, I'll check it with the place you mentioned...:thumbsup:
By the way I applied a clear coat on the panel, here's a quick shot...
08-02-2007, 03:15 AM
hi there optic the clear has given the piece a lot more depth and clarity ,as it usualy doese .
glad the info was of use
08-02-2007, 07:29 AM
I'm glad you took 'true fire' to a somewhat different direction. Everyone is trying to mimic Lavallee's style, so yours has a refreshing look to it.
It does look like the fire is advancing toward the viewer, much like those gas explosions. I like the idea.
One good thing about Mike lavallee's method, that I believe should be implemented, no matter how stylized your fire is- is the use of the color combination he came up with. These colors with the use of candies, realy make the fire glow, and less color shifts (like the green in your fire).
08-02-2007, 10:49 AM
I think that you said it best Optic this is that Optic style it really is your own thing. I have to agree with Pilon I would like to see a little less green cast but i love the fact that you did your own thing as you always do.
Thanks for the post.
08-02-2007, 12:15 PM
Hi Paul, Pilon and Sam,
Thank you all for your posts. It is strange how green it looked in some pics but I actually didn't touch neither green nor blue at all. Of course application of yellow over black base could create some green effects but it changed a little bit after the clear and sometimes camera flash might make the colors a bit different than they actually look. Anyway, my wife took the panel to the shop today, and she says as the walls were all pistachio green in their shop, it looked even greener there...:) :lol:
Here are some more pictures added showing the panel after the clear...
08-02-2007, 01:04 PM
very nice! I like the fact the flames don't look overworked. Doesn't look like fire too much to me but looks really nice. Green... yeah, yellow over black could cause it. Prob did. Can always spray some red over any green areas and cancel it. Will also dull it a tad but can't have it all I guess.
Nice job and keep doing the Can style!
08-02-2007, 02:27 PM
Great work Optic
I love the fire, it your style.
08-03-2007, 02:04 PM
Hi Tim and Glen,
Thanks for the posts. Here I send the links to the videos of painting process. The very first one starts a bit funny, a bit of a too much ghosty I suppose but if you will be patient enough you'll see something in it soon.:lol:
You are free to call it whether "optic style" or "Can style" or "Can optic style", the name isn't the most important thing, what matters to me is to improve it and make it live longer than I can. You know my wife does all my translations, even though I don't speak much of English I try to introduce it to as many as possible. Many thanks to you all for your support which is so valuable to me. Hey, I really love you all, please keep this in mind...;)
vBulletin® v3.5.8, Copyright ©2000-2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.