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Teea
07-23-2007, 06:36 PM
Basic 102: Drawing fur

Hi, everyone and welcome! Hope you all had a wonderful start for the week and still have some energy left to pick up your favorite pencils, a nice comfy spot, some snacks and of course, a list of good music to play.

In this class weíll be taking a close look of our furry animal friends and learn how to draw them the most realistic way possible- yes, Iím sorry, youíre looking at yet another realism fanatic! In my eyes the world only exists in details, thereís nothing whole, just a lot of small textures. It can be frustrating at times, but fascinating and beautiful as well. Iíll not only teach to draw fur or the other features, but to take notice to these small parts that eventually will make your drawing come alive.

The key to draw anything lifelike is patience. Here, youíll need it- now, donít throw your pencils away! If you did, go get them back. Once youíve learned the technique and know what to look for, it will be easy. And what makes this even easier for you is the fact that fur is never perfect, you only need to get the feel to it. Donít get discouraged if you donít succeed at the first round. Take this as an experiment. Have fun!

The class is now divided to two parts:


The basics.

Drawing an animal of your choice. When starting, Iíll talk about:
- line drawing
- Important features- eyes, nose etc.
- More about making of different areas.

Teea
07-23-2007, 06:38 PM
The tools weíre going to use are basic:

Pencils
Use what suits you the best (will be using: Faber-Castellís 12 set).
Youíll need at least: 2H, HB, 2B, 3B and 6B

Hereís an alternative: Iíve been using a sepia toned pencil a lot lately. Youíll only need one for the entire work, but to use this pencil requires small learning curve. It feels quite different, a lot of blending involved and is bit tricky to lift when applied, but once youíll get used to it, itís faster and real fun to use. Pretty sure that can be found at any art store. Hereís a picture what it looks like: http://www.dickblick.com/zz204/66a/ (http://www.dickblick.com/zz204/66a/)
Colored pencils are ok, but could be better to test the technique with a graphite pencil first.Paper
A good quality paper will make a difference! The best paper to use is either smooth or has a plate finish (will be using Bristol smooth). But of course, you can use what youíre familiar with- but I donít recommend to use student grade paper at all.

Blending stump and/or tortillon (if you donít have these, no worries, use cotton buds)

(optional) Kneaded eraser/ blu-tack

Pencil sharpener

If youíre going to use a sepia pencil, thereís an own sharpener for them. The normal small one will either be, well too small, or then it will eat the pencil to pieces.

Teea
07-23-2007, 06:39 PM
The Fur

The coat of the animal is there to protect- usually against too high or low temperatures or as a camouflage for both the pray and the predator. The fur consist two main types of layers:

Ground hair is the bottom layer consisting of wool hairs- usually short, thin and soft. It’s actually so soft that it’s mostly the reason why the pet hair gets tangled.

Guard hair is the visible top layer what also contains most of the pigmentation. It can be: long/short, matte/shiny, straight/curly or soft/coarse. Also the pigmentation can make it to be striped or spotted.

One important thing you have to realize is that we’re not going to draw the actual hair itself, but the shadows surrounding the hair. I did once draw the single hairs, and still do it in painting, but trust me, it’s an insanity factor. Drawing the shadows will make drawing long and short fur almost the same. I didn’t know what to call it when I started, just thought it’s the most logical way to work, but it’s called negative drawing- I know Mike Sibley has been referred earlier as well, but he’s an amazing teacher and fantastic artist and he knows how to explain this so much better than I do. If you haven’t heard of negative drawing before, I insist you to read through this class we had earlier with Mike: http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=364891 (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=364891)

The negative drawing is only one way to do it though- it works well for me, but not necessarily work for someone else. So everything shown here can be mixed with your own techniques; try and see what works best for you.

Teea
07-23-2007, 06:46 PM
The basics


Using the reference

To draw anything realistic, or at least when youíre starting out on something new what you havenít done before youíll need a good, sharp photo to work from.

This is how a part of a tiger looks under an extreme zoom:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Jul-2007/84111-differentref.jpg

1. The normal color mode.
2. Grayscale mode.
3. Toned to be brighter.

1. Using the color mode is the best way to work, you can see light and color variations what in most cases will disappear when changing to the 2. grayscale mode. The grayscale is great when you want to see the shadows and darks well, but donít use it all the times, when youíre done, continue in color. If you want to bring more light to the dark parts, to see whatís in there or to add something extra to your work, you can brighten the picture 3. but again, when youíre done with the studying, go back to the normal.

Important! In the reference youíll need to take close notice to both of the length of the hair, the direction itís growing and of course light.

- The length of the hair determines the length of the line to draw.
- The direction of the hair shows which way the line should be drawn.
- Light: short fur defines the bone structure and muscles more than the long hair.

Reinhard1
07-23-2007, 06:54 PM
Teea, this sounds interesting and I wish so much I had the time. Maybe when all is over I'll sneek in here and give it a try. I'll be peeking in from time to time to see what I could apply directly to drawing human hair.

All the very best and thanks again for sharing and teaching.

Teea
07-23-2007, 06:55 PM
My way- a work in progress


This is going to be an overall image of how I work- if Iíve rushed some areas and it left questions, please feel free to ask.

Hereís the reference I used:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Jul-2007/84111-ref.jpg

Line drawing:

You can begin with an outline, the more there is information the easier the drawing will get (done with a grid here) - but as you get better and draw more of these, the challenge and difference is a warm welcome. I like to draw without an outline, but thereís own risks. Itís important to get all features right at this point, because if thereís something wrong in the outline, there will be problem in the finished work as well- and now the mistakes are still pretty easy to repair. So take your time to do it well. I usually first sketch it to a separate paper, then scan the sketch and clean it- after itís done, I print it and trace it to the paper Iíll be using, whatís Bristol smooth this time.

The outline:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Jul-2007/84111-line.jpg

Iím used to finish one small area at a time, but my working steps are following: 1. Darks, 2. mid tones, 3. the lightest parts and finally 4. the finishing details, like lifting graphite with a kneaded eraser for achieving a glare or adding individual hair and finally blending.

I started this picture from the left ear.

At the reference, study the direction again. We need to know which way weíre going to draw the lines- This time no close study is needed to see that the fur in the ear is short, so weíll need to draw the lines short.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Jul-2007/84111-closeup_ear.jpg

To get this kind of effect, work to the direction of the fur and start drawing random short lines. Do not draw them in line; it wonít look natural, by doing so it kind of looks like tangled hairÖbut of course if youíre after that kind of texture, then go ahead. Push the pencil enough to get dark and continue making the lines until youíre to the color- what happens now when youíre leaving gaps as making random lines is that youíll automatically leave lighter areas, these will be the highlights that can be either toned down or then brought up with a kneaded eraser.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Jul-2007/84111-making_shorthair.jpg

After finishing the ear I moved on to the right. The darkest of darks are placed first. By doing so youíre able to compare the following mid tones and light better- youíll know how much to add just by watching your own drawing. Weíll also go this through because of another matter- you canít have missed the sentence ďpush the darksĒ around here. Itís a common problem, people being afraid or then hasnít realized to make the blacks dark enough. Iíll have an eye on this, so beware, :lol:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Jul-2007/84111-kokokuva1.jpg

See, how the right edge is uneven? The white area now shows where the next layer of fur is going to be. I have drawn around the ends of the new hair- it doesnít just show the end of hairs, but it works as a guide, you can read the reference just like a map and then when you look at your drawing, youíll know where to add what.

Teea
07-23-2007, 07:06 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Jul-2007/84111-eyebrows_closeup.jpg

Here you can see a close up of the fur. The same small lines have been made to run from right to the left. A new type of fur is showing- the long ďeyebrowsĒ. First draw again all the dark/ darkish areas, then when these are done, watch carefully how the long fur is growing in your reference and try to get the line you draw to follow the shapes of the dog.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Jul-2007/84111-eyebrows.jpg


The picture continues the same way. I notice Iíve wanted to jump on to make something else. Try to avoid this; itís better to move on slowly from one line to another. But here I have jumped to make the nose- Iíll talk about making the nose and eyes a bit later- those are, in my opinion, the most interesting parts and gives so much life to the subject.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Jul-2007/84111-kokokuva2.jpg

Ok, now letís talk a little about blending. Overall, use blending when you want the area to look soft. On other hand, if you want the end result to be sharp, but want it darker, do not blend but tone with a pencil. How you use the stomp or tortillon is the same way as you use a pencil. ďDrawĒ lines or make dots etc. Use it carefully.

You can draw by using the stomp and then get highlights easily with a kneaded eraser. To do this youíll need to get the stomp full of color, so I recommend keeping the other end clean for general blending and the other for drawing:


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Jul-2007/84111-blendedhighlight.jpg

Again have had a small jump :D


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Jul-2007/84111-kokokuva4ja5.jpg


And here's the final, all finished!


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Jul-2007/84111-dachsy72p.jpg


:wave:,
We'll start with the assignments tomorrow, so see you then!
~Julia

Teea
07-23-2007, 07:16 PM
Hi, Reinhard! Glad to have you peeking in- I'll be checking in here every now and then after the class is over, so no worries, come draw when you have the time :)

Take care,
~Julia

JayD
07-23-2007, 07:17 PM
Julia, this is absolutely fascinating. I guess I will be breaking out the ol' Sheltie--haven't done Bailey in ages!

Judi1957
07-23-2007, 07:21 PM
Great intro Julia! I was going to post my ref-buy my scanner is not working. Oh Mondays!

I am sooo excited to draw my beloved Lucky dog who is romping in the world beyond.

:clap: :clap: :clap: Thanks so much my friend for taking your valuable time to help us!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

pakc
07-23-2007, 07:35 PM
this is amazing....I am going to have to try your tips and technique.
Julia...thanks for sharing.

*Deirdre*
07-23-2007, 07:38 PM
I've stayed up to say hi...and thanks for doing it Julia! See you tomorrow!:wave:

Gordon T
07-23-2007, 07:44 PM
wow if mine turn out 1/10th as good as this I will be as pleased as punch as we say here in good old WET! blighty, can not wait to get started

Lady Carol
07-23-2007, 08:13 PM
T, I had no idea you were so talented. You didn't let on in chat :lol:

mjenk
07-23-2007, 08:49 PM
Wow...just beautiful! I have never tried my hand at animals, so this is going to be an exciting challenge! Thanks for teaching this class!

joane
07-23-2007, 09:26 PM
Wonderful lessons Teea! I would like to know which pencil you recommend for each area--that is when would you switch to the softer leads and what works best for the smoother areas and so on?? I practiced a bit making the lines and found the sharper the pencil lead, the smoother the lines looked.
Thank you so much for sharing your time and talent!

emme05
07-23-2007, 10:58 PM
Really great info so far, already learning.

Beautiful portrait.

I have one cat and two dogs, one dog is a Standard Poodle with Oodles of curls, I don't know where to begin on him, so I'll start with the cat! :D

Thanks again, looking forward to the assignments.

mauricar
07-24-2007, 12:53 PM
I am working on a poodle. I hope that is all right.
Midge

Teea
07-24-2007, 03:09 PM
Hi, Jay! Great to have you join in. Can't wait to see Bailey again, lucky dog to have you draw him :D

Hey, Judi! Omg, mondays...sounds like the machines don't like mondays either lol...but please post your ref when you can, would love to see it! :heart:

Hi, Pam- good to see you! I'm happy you're going to give it a try :D let us know how it's working for you, ok? Hugs!

Aw, how kind- Hope you didn't have to stay up too late, Dei! :wave:

Hi Gordon, can't wait to see your work, it will be great, I'm sure!

Hey, Carol. :lol: Well it's better to keep some things in secret, makes life so much more interesting :D

Hi, Michelle! Welcome. I'm happy to hear you're going to give it a try- very, very nice to hear! :D

Hi, Joane! The pencil to use depends what result you're after- The softer the pencil is, the more color it will give- so use soft leaded pencils (B-6B) for the dark parts and not as soft pencils (H, 2H, HB) for making the light parts as well as to toning. I use a lot of 3B- it's kind of in the middle, can be used for both dark and light. Glad to hear you're testing ^_^

Hi, Michele (emme05)! A cat and two dogs?? How wonderful! When you're starting the poodle, post the ref first, maybe I could help you to get started.

Hey, Midge! Yes, of course! That sounds great to me :D

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Oh, and btw, I've kept repeating a blending "stomp"...don't know what stomp is, but stump sounds more like it :lol:

OK. Now to the first assignment!

This is a simple one to give; I want you to draw some fur.
This following picture is a close-up of a tiger:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/24-Jul-2007/84111-furassignment1.jpg

Remember the three things:
the length of the hair, the direction itís growing and light.

Have fun and when you're done, post your results here :)
~Julia

Loretta7
07-24-2007, 07:01 PM
This looks like an interesting class. I've taken a picture of my doggie, Bella. She's short haired and a reddish color with white markings. Can't wait to get started :wave: .

Loretta

Judi1957
07-24-2007, 07:14 PM
Hi Julia!:wave:

I am wondering how large we should do this. I am guessing as you are probably viewing your eyelids-Zzzzzzzzz- so I am going to go with 3" or 4" square.

Wait till you see my Lucky dog-she has eyebrows just like you show in your eye drawing. Looks like I have an advantage to start. Whew!:D

Looks like we have an excellent size Class! :clap: :clap: :clap:

*Deirdre*
07-24-2007, 07:24 PM
I''ve done my practice piece...a little quickly I fear...but my dog is a yellow lab...so no stripes...just changes of tone:wink2:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/24-Jul-2007/33616-tigerskin.jpg I did get a bit lost in the pattern...but figured the tiger wouldn't mind!

Judi1957
07-24-2007, 07:32 PM
Lovely Speedy Dee!:clap: :D

mjenk
07-24-2007, 09:38 PM
Dee- you are exceptally speedy! Very nice!
Teea- I was wondering like Judi about size. I started mine at about 4x6. At what points would you blend or use an eraser on this? Right now mine looks a bit more like scribbles...but I ready to learn :)!

rasberry
07-24-2007, 11:49 PM
ooh im excited your lesson looks amazing :-) i will start on my fur example tonight... hi Michelle.. he he notice teea said something about pushing the darks lol no escape for you ;-)
Naomi

tyree
07-25-2007, 12:37 AM
:clap: dee...terrific tigery fur...tyree

"J"
07-25-2007, 01:36 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Jul-2007/84176-tiger_fur.jpg

winecountry
07-25-2007, 02:02 AM
Hi,
I don't draw much, it makes my hands hurt, so I usually paint or use pastel...this was instructive...and I really liked the negative drawing thread.
I used a 6 B to make the darks, but even as heavy as I could it made only a dark grey ...so learning curve ahead.
Colleenhttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Jul-2007/103030-tiger_fur.jpg

Teea
07-25-2007, 02:26 AM
Wowies, you guys! You're all off to a great start! :clap:

I'm in a hurry, so will come back later this evening to reply- have a work day ahead (hurrah. :lol:)

Those who are wondering about the size, small square (4x6) is fine, just don't make it too small that it will make doing the lines difficult! This is only a study, so let's make this easy for your drawing hand :D

Colleen: what kind of paper you're using?

Have to run,
Hugs!
~Julia

winecountry
07-25-2007, 02:39 AM
Hi Julia
Bristol smooth in a pad by strathmore
Cheers!
Colleen

Janby
07-25-2007, 07:04 AM
Lovely tiger fur so far :clap:

Must get started on mine :rolleyes:

bigs
07-25-2007, 07:13 AM
This is my wonky scan of the tiger fur - I did a bit of a crop (did a tiger pastel not that long ago & went cross-eyed :p)


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Jul-2007/92218-tiger_fur.jpg

Gordon T
07-25-2007, 11:32 AM
gosh this harder than I thought any way did the tiger fur now I have cheated a bit as I have not done all the sample you gave because I would of had a sample that was massive so I did around the white of the eye http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Jul-2007/41972-fur.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Jul-2007/41972-84111-furassignment1.jpg

birdlady
07-25-2007, 12:22 PM
I got a little time so did a quicky will probably have to go back a darken more :o

really nice work so far everyone.

Laurie

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Jul-2007/5126-tiger_study_1.jpg

Judi1957
07-25-2007, 12:33 PM
Those who are wondering about the size, small square (4x6) is fine, just don't make it too small that it will make doing the lines difficult! This is only a study, so let's make this easy for your drawing hand :D



Study-LOL-I'll post later when I get home-but went for a detailed drawing. Me not always listen so good teach:o -spent 2 hours on it so far:lol: :D

eyepaint
07-25-2007, 12:50 PM
Hi everyone,

I like the tiger fur I see so far.

Here's mine. 2B mechanical pencil, 4x6, approx. 1 hour
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Jul-2007/96240-IMGP9785.JPG

As you can see, I need this class and I need to practice. I know some of you are speedy, but if you could add the time you took and whether you used a blending stump or other tool that would be helpful so we can learn from each other :)

Cheers,

Judi1957
07-25-2007, 12:53 PM
Opps-sorry All-these all look wonderful:clap: -like you followed the teachers instructions :D

binkie
07-25-2007, 02:58 PM
Everyone's doing great on the fur. Gordon, you're right. Tiger fur is harder than anticipated. Sorry about the darkness of the photo; it's the best I could get.

binkie

joane
07-25-2007, 03:05 PM
Tiger fur is really a tough one--I did this in about 2 hours with a few interruptions--Bristol smooth, 2B pencil--I know it is "rough" and needs many more layers--quite frankly it looks better on paper than after being scanned--it was kind of a disappointment to see the scanned result, but the light tells the true story!
Have fun everyone--we are in for some tough work ahead!:D

Gordon T
07-25-2007, 03:11 PM
everybody is doing all the picture that was given to us but me! oops! but I spent 2-3 hours doing what I did so if I did it all I would not be finished in time for christmas, I used 2h,2b,hb,6b pencils on mine no blending at all

mjenk
07-25-2007, 04:48 PM
Everyone's fur is looking GOOD! I don't usually like 'pushing' the darks (Naomi knows me), but I did find it a little challenging to get darks using strokes. I felt like I had to use a lot of pressure and the pencil point got dull quickly. So much to learn...:)!

tyree
07-25-2007, 04:49 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Jul-2007/65063-tiger_fur.jpg teea...i used .05 mech pencil ..4h to smooth ..3b for darks...on bristol smooth..very little blending..electric eraser to help with whites..and lighter area...3 hrs ...tyree

tyree
07-25-2007, 04:58 PM
:clap: :clap: everyones doing some great renditions of this assignment..good work!!! tyree

joyceg
07-25-2007, 05:38 PM
I wasn't sure if I could participate in this class or not as I have been working on a couple of large oil paintings, but I really would like to join in so here is my effort--I used sketch book paper and an hb pencil, made the mistake of starting to work from the left and since I'm left handed that created problems of smudging. Also I found that I kept slipping into circulism instead of staying with the tiny lines. So as you can see I've already learned several lessons by doing this drawing. I spent at least 3 hours but had quite a few interruptions so I really don't know how long it took. Hope to do better next time.

I'm very impressed with everyones' work, can't wait for the next steps.

mauricar
07-25-2007, 06:36 PM
This probably sounds rather dumb, but do I use a scribble stroke, or short scattered strokes? 4x6 is rather large for me in this amount of space (just over the eye) It is coming out rather ugly. What am i doing wrong?
Midge

*Deirdre*
07-25-2007, 06:39 PM
The fur is flying in, thick and fast...everyone's doing great fur!!:D :thumbsup:

Judi1957
07-25-2007, 07:31 PM
Yeperoo Dee-the fur is flying!

Sue, Gordon, Laurie, Elizabeth, Binkie, Joane, Michelle, Susan and Joyce-those are Furtastic!:cat: :clap:

Midge:wave: -Not sure but perhaps keep layering---though the teach will probably correct me:lol: -but that is what I have been doing. I am posting my progress work-and just starting tonight on the right side. Started with lines only-one direction as per the growth angle. Found going back and forth did not really work (for me) The left side looks more furlike so far-and that is from building up layers, more layers where dark, and lifting with blu-tack and a sharp tipped eraser.

"J"
07-25-2007, 08:37 PM
EP mine took about an hour. I used a .05 mechanical pencil and did use the shading stump a little to soften.

gourdburner
07-25-2007, 11:33 PM
Hope I'm not too late to join in the fun. Great Class Teea.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Jul-2007/52477-DSCF4564.JPG

Gordon T
07-26-2007, 03:49 AM
Judi have to agree with you yours does look like fur so far well done
Debbie never too late to join welcome aboard
Midge I would not use scribble strokes on the fur use small single line strokes and build it up with layers using different pencils

IslanderNL
07-26-2007, 06:54 AM
There sure is a lot of fur here! I love seeing the different techniques and styles, just beautiful.

I guess I'm in the same boat as Judi in some ways :D. Even my 'studies' tend to be indepth. And I don't think a study has to be quick and easy, it can be as complex as you like.

This took about 2 hours perhaps, .05 mechanical pencil 2B lead on Canson sketchpad and is about 4 x 4. I didn't blend or use a stump, but then I don't usually do that anyway, I just build my layers.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jul-2007/67422-tiger_fur.jpg

Gordon T
07-26-2007, 07:00 AM
Jeanette you did a good job on this and I dont usually do blending on fur either unless it is supposed to be out of focus

Alessandra Rosi
07-26-2007, 09:18 AM
Good work everyone!
Here's mine, done with sepia pencil on shoellershommer (I hope I spelled it correctly) paper, , it took me almost 2 hours, and i did some blending with the stump. I hope I'll do better in the next assignment... :(
Alessandra
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jul-2007/71279-esercizio_002esercizio_pe_copia_piu_piccola.jpg

Mustbenuts
07-26-2007, 10:38 AM
All the furs are wonderful. It doesn't seem you all need fur lessons!

I'm slow. I spent about 4 hours on mine and the result is 4 x 3. On the black stripes, I used a carbon pencil and that was a mistake. When the pencil was sharpened enough to draw fine hairs, the tip would crush slightly and give a wider mark. I won't do that again! I used an HB pencil for the rest of the piece and Strathmore sketch paper. I can see that I need these lessons. Bless you Julia!!

In the WDC, I've scanned my drawngs to upload with not very good results. Today, I used the digital camera and am happier with the likness.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jul-2007/107653-FurPhoto.jpg

Andrea

winecountry
07-26-2007, 01:26 PM
It all looks like fur yet each one is different!...doesn't look like I spent enough time on mine...20 min
Colleen

Gordon T
07-26-2007, 04:28 PM
Colleen it does not matter how much time you spend on your drawings I have done a drawing in a week where someone like Reinhard could be on his for months so it is as individual as you are

scrappie
07-26-2007, 05:10 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jul-2007/88717-furassignment1.jpg

Gordon T
07-26-2007, 05:13 PM
very good scrappie looks like fur to me

mauricar
07-26-2007, 07:10 PM
I figured out why I have been having such a hard time with this. I normally draw the eyes and nose first on whatever I am drawing (people and animals, that is). There are neither on this piece. Guess I'll have to draw an eye, and then erase it. (lol)
Midge

Gordon T
07-26-2007, 07:35 PM
it is odd just drawing fur because i normally start with the eye first as well but as we are learning to draw fur then it stands to reason we will be drawing fur so i will have to get to alter my prospective on where to start, i think this is why i had trouble to do this one I did two or three (i think it was three) goes at this and didn't like any of them

mauricar
07-26-2007, 08:45 PM
Thank you Gordon. Now that I know you had problems also, I don't feel so bad. I'll keep trying.
Midge

barbaara
07-27-2007, 05:45 AM
Hello:wave:
I am just in 101 classes to beginners , but i now that here so friendly company and even rookie can have a little fan width in big boys sandbox:D
It takes to me 4 hours and still not finished. Size 10 x 15 cm (I dont understand
absolutely nothing about inch mesurements:confused: ) I used a pencils 9B , 7B,2B,2HB , Not eraser or blender .http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Jul-2007/107203-Picture_019.jpg
:heart:

*Deirdre*
07-27-2007, 07:29 AM
Barbaara...that fur is amazing!! :clap: I want to stroke it...even if it IS a tiger!!:lol:

Gordon T
07-27-2007, 11:34 AM
barbaara that definately looks like fur well done

"J"
07-27-2007, 11:43 AM
Barbara beautiful fur.

Judi1957
07-27-2007, 12:21 PM
I will fourth that Barbara!:clap: :clap: :clap:

barbaara
07-27-2007, 12:33 PM
Thank you all for support!
And BIG thanks to Teea! You works a perfect! Isot kiitokset tššltš puolelta vettš!:D

Judi1957
07-27-2007, 12:38 PM
Hey All:wave:

Julia is a bit under the weather:( -but will be back in a day or so. :thumbsup:

emme05
07-27-2007, 01:46 PM
Feel better Julia (((HUGS)))

You all have done so great with the fur study :D I am still laying in the strokes, about half way finished, not tellling how long it is taking me, lol :P I'm SO SLOW.

Does anyone have a comment on this, or perhaps it can wait until Julia feels better;
Julia said we aren't drawing each hair, rather drawing the shadows, yet I feel like I am drawing each hair by putting down so many layers of directional strokes.
Am I doing something wrong, or not understanding the process: growth direction, shadows, and light? ??? (I'm using mainly 2b, b, hb, .5 & .7mm mechancial leads on Bristol Smooth (My Fav)Thanks

Gordon T
07-27-2007, 04:06 PM
emme i dont know if your doing anything wrong but if you are then so did I because I did the same

Gordon T
07-27-2007, 06:28 PM
Julia get well soon and we will see you when you are well enough to cope with us

*Deirdre*
07-27-2007, 07:53 PM
Feel better Julia (((HUGS)))

You all have done so great with the fur study :D I am still laying in the strokes, about half way finished, not tellling how long it is taking me, lol :P I'm SO SLOW.

Does anyone have a comment on this, or perhaps it can wait until Julia feels better;
Julia said we aren't drawing each hair, rather drawing the shadows, yet I feel like I am drawing each hair by putting down so many layers of directional strokes.
Am I doing something wrong, or not understanding the process: growth direction, shadows, and light? ??? (I'm using mainly 2b, b, hb, .5 & .7mm mechancial leads on Bristol Smooth (My Fav)Thanks
Julia rated Mike Sibly's class on Negative drawing to show us HOW....try reading this (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=364891&page=10)

emme05
07-27-2007, 08:13 PM
Gordon Thanks for commenting, now I don't feel so alone about the 'method'.

Deepat Yes, NOW I remember Julia did point us toward Mike's class as the best way to explain it! Thanks for the kind reminder - I looked it over and think the part on the grasses will really help me personally, as it seemed to make it 'click' for me.
As I missed that class I think I will print it off and try to learn some more. Thanks again for you help.

Surfroney
07-28-2007, 09:55 AM
What a beautiful drawing. Im hooked on animal art now and know I have a long way to go,so appreciate your sharing.
Froney

*Deirdre*
07-28-2007, 12:37 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jul-2007/88717-furassignment1.jpg
Michael...yours is amazing too! You didn't say what size it was or the pencils you used though...will you enlighten us?:)

mauricar
07-28-2007, 09:32 PM
Life has gotten in the way of my artwork. I have a couple of projects that I must attend to, and that will take about 2 weeks. I will check back with you all from time to time, but will have to catch up then.
Midge

scrappie
07-28-2007, 11:19 PM
Michael...yours is amazing too! You didn't say what size it was or the pencils you used though...will you enlighten us?:)
Deirdre thank you for the comment, drawing size 3"x4" used 4h,H,F,2B,4B

emme05
07-29-2007, 01:52 PM
See you then Midge, Take Care :)

Julia, Hoping you are feeling better each day, :) I will try to get a pic and post my 'Study' today or tomorrow, for me it is slow going.

Teea
07-29-2007, 06:44 PM
Hey, lovelees!

Hope all is well- looks like you don't need a guide to draw fur- talented people! Fantastic work, everyone- so proud of you all :clap::clap:

let's see, missed a few posts...

Loretta: Glad to have you join our furrious class! Can't wait to see Bella.
Dee: You did great with the first assignment- you've achieved good darks, the direction is just right and it has that soft look, well done! Be careful not to overblend the light areas tho'- not a problem here :D
Michelle: When I started, I used the eraser so much it were glued to my hand :lol: later on I've learned not to use it until the very end when I want to bring back some lost highlights or makes something lighter. What comes to blending- when you want the end result look soft, then blend it- in this picture, the start of the hair looks quite soft, but the end of the hair is sharp..the start which is a little unfocused will get blended, but the end will stay untouched:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/29-Jul-2007/84111-blending.jpg
Then your study! It's GOOD. When doing darks you can well let the pencil point get dull. You don't have to draw the darks in lines, just a few so it wont be just this black spot.
Naomi: Good to see you! Now, where's your example? Hmm :evil:
Jeanne: Good work with the study! It's just a matter of style and taste, but more darks would bring the other tones more visible- the light parts and direction are all :thumbsup:
Colleen: You said earlier when you're drawing it makes your hand hurt and it's difficult to get really dark? It can be the pencils..but in the end you should be able to create the darkest parts by using a 3B. Have you tried holding the pencil more close to the lead? If you hold the pencil too far it can cause pressure to your hand.
Jan: Yes, you must! will look forward to it.
Sue: lol, cross eyed? Yep, always hoping that the feeling is just a feeling and it wont show in other way when someone looks at our eyes. Very well done study! You could, if you want to, to try get a bit more darks- but our pet friends most likely don't have black stripes...other than shadows.
Gordon: The crop is fine, what works for you is ok- nothing is easy at first, unless you're unnatural talented-type, ( I only know one so far and that's Armin :D )To the rest of us it will get easier after each study. Eventually you'll have your own technique to use- what I show, may not work for you. Test, make mistakes and you'll learn- and seems like you have, well done. Good tones, there doesn't have to be much at the white areas as you have done here.
Laurie: Very nice quickie! Definitely tiger fur- good darks! :clap:
EP: And I like the tiger fur you show and in 1 hour? You're fast! White fur is always a bit tricky; we can't use colors as in painting, but only show in tones- if there's too much, it will easilly get lost among the other tones, so be careful with the whites. A hint, this will get really good if you now lift some of those lines at the lighter parts.
Binkie: The picture is quite dark on my screen, but it looks like a really good study!
Joane: I know, scanning does really a lot of damage to the overall values :( but there's a trick- you can print out a grayscale and place it next to your drawing when scanning, the scanner will recognise more tones and the result will be better. I see you have studied the direction in your study and it has a good base of lines to continue- well done!
Tyree: Oh I love the variety of styles! Good pencil choices- and the study is very well done!
Joyce: The combination of lines and circulism looks really interesting- seems to work well together, will look forward for your next studies. To prevent smudging/ dirt from hands, keep an extra paper under your drawing hand all times.
Judi: You've got it :thumbsup:
Debbie: Never too late to join! And now when we had quite slow start, we'll be doing some extra :cat: Good study!
Jeanette: Excellent! Have nothing to nit! And you're right about the studies- they are important, that's why it doesn't matter how much we'll spend time with them, as long as we take the time to see what's there.
Alessandra: What do you mean hope you'll do better in the next assignment? Of course! I think you did great on this and you'll be even better at the next one :D Interesting style. How's the pencil working for you?
Andrea: Carbon pencil? Think I did something similar and it did go horribly wrong as well (lol) maybe not for fur then? But your study looks really good, even if you had problems with the pencil :thumbsup:
Scrappie: wow's, good work!
Midge: I'm an 'eye' person too..have to at least imagine it there before doing anything- that's why I nearly always start with the eyes; have to have something to watch :D What works for you, works here- draw an eye first if it's easier that way.
Barbaara: Fantastic fur! Very well done!
Michele: Thank you! Will look forward on seeing your study! *hugs*

Phew. Hope I got everyone!

~*******~


Now, I want your opinion: would you like to get more assignments like this of different types of fur? Something precise you'd like to me to show? Or draw from your own references?

~Julia

Gordon T
07-29-2007, 07:20 PM
I quite enjoyed doing the fur assignment so learning different furs would be benificial to us all as we will probably draw other furry animals at different times so I personally would like more assignments please, glad to see you are recovered from your illness its good to see you back

tyree
07-29-2007, 07:35 PM
I quite enjoyed doing the fur assignment so learning different furs would be benificial to us all as we will probably draw other furry animals at different times so I personally would like more assignments please, glad to see you are recovered from your illness its good to see you back i agree with gordon...more assignments of different fur...and i too am glad your feeling better !!! tyree :thumbsup:

scrappie
07-29-2007, 07:56 PM
i agree with gordon...more assignments of different fur...and i too am glad your feeling better !!! tyree :thumbsup: More Fur assignments.

bigs
07-29-2007, 08:39 PM
Glad you are feeling better - its a wonder that you actually survived getting through that reply though Julia - pheww!!

More fur is fine with me - anything that helps me learn works for me!!

birdlady
07-29-2007, 09:07 PM
so good to hear you are on the mend again Julia. I am up for more fur also but would also like to get into the other areas of the animals , eyes , nose etc. I think all of it would be benefical to us. I also would like to see you interpertation of the areas we cover so we see how the teachers looks. :)

Thank you again for doing this for us.

Laurie

joane
07-29-2007, 09:38 PM
The more practice, the better! Thanks for the time spent with all the individual critiques. Glad you are back with us and feeling better!
Joane

joyceg
07-29-2007, 11:54 PM
Julia, so glad you're back with us and feeling better.

The sample you showed Michelle of blending, not blending was very informative and I would personally like to see more types of fur, particularly smooth fur (as in short-haired dogs), if that's possible. Actually, it would be great to see more samples of your work, and perhaps you could point out the methods you used in creating the different types of fur as you did with the tiger, we could each choose which one we wanted to copy.

Don't know if that would create chaos or not with everyone doing something different so whatever you decide -- it so kind of you to teach this class, that is the important thing.

Alessandra Rosi
07-30-2007, 06:46 AM
Hi Julia, thank you for your encouragement! I like the sepia pencil look, but as you can see in my sample piece, i had some problems, especially in keeping fur sharp, since the sepia pencil I have is more or less like a pastel pencil, so it doesn't keep a sharp point like a graphite pencil...but then I look at your work, and i see that you achieved perfection with that sepia.... so I hope I will do someting better next time!
As for next assigments, I'm with Joyce, seeing more samples of how you do that wonderful fur, etc...
thank you so much for helping us!!
Alessandra

mjenk
07-30-2007, 09:07 AM
Glad you're back and feeling better! Thanks for the response and I vote for more fur too (I think Joyce said it very well).

artastic
07-30-2007, 09:19 AM
I lost the original post, but would like to join in
will start on the first assignment after work today
thanks for the great instruction Teea

winecountry
07-30-2007, 11:44 AM
thanks Julia, I learned several things doing this and it has helped my painting and pastel work still not that crazy about pencils, but would love to try more assignments on this subject!
Colleen

Teea
07-30-2007, 05:40 PM
Hiya :wave:

So more fur assignments it is :evil:

We'll continue with the short fur, but this time the subject changes to a dog- This crop is from RIL, a black labrador by moya (http://www.wetcanvas.com/RefLib/showphoto.php?photo=75697&si=labrador&perpage=12) Thank you for the reference, gorgeous dog! The shiny short fur shows the shape of the subject- what is underneath the fur, like bones and muscles, are highlighted.

- The drawing can be in any size- depending how much time you have and what you're most comfortable with.
- start with an underdrawing: roughly sketch the tones you see and then draw the darks first.
- careful with the blending! Leave some white too to the light part.

You can choose from:

1. Just a crop of the fur:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Jul-2007/84111-short_fur_assignment.jpg

2. For those who would more like to start from the eye :D I'll show an eye tutorial later as well as how to make the nose:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Jul-2007/84111-short_fur_assignment2.jpg

I'll do this this time as well (the eye ref) and show the steps of how I'd do it.

~Julia

Gordon T
07-31-2007, 09:07 AM
this is my second attempt at this assignment the first one looked like a cross between Lon Chaney's woolfman and the dulux dog http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/31-Jul-2007/41972-fur.jpg

bigs
07-31-2007, 09:21 AM
Well there's no wolfman there now Gordon, lovely - I'm still working on mine have put in the middle shades and now working on putting in the darks and lights - but I really do like a landmark like the eye.

Boy is this a slow process!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/31-Jul-2007/92218-fur_again_-_1st_scan.jpg

Gordon T
07-31-2007, 10:58 AM
Sue your drawing is coming along nicely and when you add the darker tones will stand out even better, by the way you are right it is a slow process but it works

"J"
07-31-2007, 02:38 PM
Here is my assignment 2

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/31-Jul-2007/84176-fur_assignment_2.jpg

Gordon T
07-31-2007, 04:06 PM
Jeanne this is good it looks like what it is supposed to look like and that is fur

"J"
07-31-2007, 04:34 PM
Thanks Gordon. Your's and Sue's look very nice. I decided since you both had yours done, I had better get busy. I am glad mine looks like fur, as I have probably done a hundred or more animal drawings. They are my most favorite thing to draw. Especially dogs. I love dogs and have 3 babies of my own.

birdlady
07-31-2007, 05:22 PM
what great results all of u are having. Hope its fun for u as it is for me.

welllllllll here is my rendition but will say I got really confused trying to do the right side of the eye. I just could not see what the direction was on the fur even after I blew the picture up. Man does that mess with the pixels. I also lost the crisp whites in the hilite areas and the soft look of the eye. I used the darkest pencil I had ( eberhard faber EBONY jet black smooth) and am still not happy with the dark parts but

It still was fun to do this.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/31-Jul-2007/5126-short_fur_mine.jpg



Laurie

Gordon T
07-31-2007, 05:53 PM
Laurie I think you did fine on the highlights, and your darks are also fine what you have to remember is if we could draw fur properly we wouldn't be doing this class we would probably be teaching the class instead,remember rome wasn't built in day I can asure you I am not anywhere near satisfied with my fur (and i have been drawing tigers and lions and bears oh my) and I am sure many of the others feel the same,

scrappie
07-31-2007, 06:34 PM
Assignment 2http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/31-Jul-2007/88717-short_fur_assignment2.jpg

artastic
07-31-2007, 06:49 PM
looks like I could use some more darks too, also used a 6b ebony for the darks
also submitting the first assignment as I started late
seems to be some smudging going on

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/31-Jul-2007/104250-assigments_12.jpg

eyepaint
07-31-2007, 08:52 PM
Julia - thank you for the feedback on assignment 1. I tried to lift out the darks with the wrong type of eraser so I redid the sample in 2B mechanical pencil. I wasn't happy with the result so I've looked at Mike Sibley's Negative Drawing class, tried a few exercises, and then tackled this one.

Here's my assignment 2. I used a range of pencils this time (2H, H, F, B, 2B) on 4"x4" square in my sketchbook. I'm not sure of the time I took, but it was at least two hours.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/31-Jul-2007/96240-IMGP9954.JPG

Cheers,

tyree
07-31-2007, 11:54 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/31-Jul-2007/65063-assign_2_fur.jpg assign 2 ...i used different pencils for this one ...graphite hb, 4b...and mech .05 and staedtler 4h for blending furs...i think i like my first assign. better for pencils, but wanted to try graphite for the dark dark...2 to 3 hours time...tyree

bigs
08-01-2007, 02:31 AM
Boy everyone is doing great - I'll to get going and finish mine off!

IslanderNL
08-01-2007, 08:22 AM
I guess I was the odd one out and used the crop of fur as in the first assignment, but may go back and do the section with the eye.

My complaint in doing a very close up section like this is that there is an unreality to it and I find the extreme closeup rather confusing as it blurs the fur detail, so I use my imagination to some degree here. I mean there is detail in the image, but it is rather grainy at this level of magnification.

Anyway, here's my sample for # 2. Its 4 inches square, done with 2B mechanical pencil on Canson sketch paper with some 4B and 6B for darker sections. It didn't help that I grabbed the drawing on the way out the door this morning to scan it at work, as I didn't have time at home. And Tropical Storm Chantal rained all over it, so its a bit wrinkled. :(

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Aug-2007/67422-Lab_fur_2.jpg

Gordon T
08-01-2007, 09:18 AM
everybody is doing fine on their fur it is amazing to me how we are all using the same reference and we all have different results, I know that if we were all the same it would be boring and also we are all at different standards with our drawing ability's but it still is facinating looking at the results and even though we are all different they all look like what they are supposed to look like FUR

bigs
08-02-2007, 03:25 AM
Jeanette, I agree with you its hard when its so close up - its just not the same as when you do the whole animal or a head study even.

Well everybody else has done so well I suppose I should post my finished bit of fur its 5" x 5" :

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Aug-2007/92218-fur_again_-_2nd_scan.jpg

IslanderNL
08-02-2007, 06:16 AM
I've tackleld the eye version of this patch of fur. I think I got sidetracked again and used a bit of artistic license. :lol: But here it is.

Again 4 x 4 inches, mostly 2B mechanical pencils with a touch of 4B and 6B for the intense darks.

As I have a municipal holiday today for a regatta, I can spend the day drawing :clap:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Aug-2007/67422-fureye2.jpg

Gordon T
08-02-2007, 06:32 AM
Jeanette I love that eye

rasberry
08-02-2007, 08:12 AM
Hi everyone!! just jumping in to say yup im still alive and keen on getting started on this class.. i have had a shocking virus that dosent want to let

rasberry
08-02-2007, 08:23 AM
oops my keyboard died lol anyways as i was saying silly virus hasnt want to let up.. but hoping to be back to the drawing board tomorrow!!.. im seeing some fantastic work here and i cant wait to join in :-)
Naomi

Gordon T
08-02-2007, 08:52 AM
NAOMI glad your feeling better

Alessandra Rosi
08-02-2007, 09:15 AM
A quick one from me this time, (about 4o minutes more or less), on fabriano student grade paper ( I know I should'nt use it, but this is just a study...)
with sepia pencil.
Alessandrahttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Aug-2007/71279-Cane_seppia_003_tagliato_copia_smaller.jpg

*Deirdre*
08-02-2007, 11:23 AM
Whew! Managed to catch up, I hope...where does time go?:confused: :wink2:
Ebony pencil on Canford Montval approx 5x5

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Aug-2007/33616-eyefur.jpg

nes
08-02-2007, 03:44 PM
Hello, can i still join in? I have never done anything like this before, but I love to learn! It was even harder than I thought it would be! I think it is still a bit 'rough', maybe I should sharpen my pencils more often or use harder ones? I used hb, 2b, 4b and 6b. Maybe it is just not finished (although it took me almost 2 hours, a great lesson in patience! Well, here it is:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Aug-2007/104172-IMG_4185.jpg

binkie
08-02-2007, 04:10 PM
All the fur and eyes are looking furbulous!!!! Tried to make my pic a little lighter this time.

binkie

scrappie
08-02-2007, 04:20 PM
Nice work by every one.:clap:

barbaara
08-02-2007, 05:07 PM
Everybody makes wonderful works!
My aua is take for me 3h, I jused 9B, 7B ,3HB and 2 mehanical pencils. The area where started nose a little messy, I cant catch the furs direction,
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Aug-2007/107203-pontu.jpg

joyceg
08-02-2007, 05:09 PM
Thought I was never going to find time for this but decided to just sit down and do it--5x5 on Bristol Vellum. I used 2 Staedtler Mars 2 mm clutch pencils, not sure what size but probably 4B and H. Took me several hours with frequent interruptions (my idiot dog doesn't always know if he wants to go out or be in plus I had a phone call from a friend I hadn't heard from in a while)

Nice work, everyone, I'm really impressed with all the talent here. Sorry not to comment individually but I'm sure you'd rather hear comments from the teacher.

Gordon T
08-02-2007, 07:15 PM
well done Deidre,Nes,Binkie,Barbaara and Joyce I think everybody has done well
ALESSANDRA I know everybody is learning on this forum but I have to say I think yours has got to be one of the best I have seen well done.Now that doesn't mean everybody else is not good because as I said I think everybody has done brilliant

gourdburner
08-02-2007, 08:00 PM
Ok, this is my third try on this one. I'm finally at least fairly satisfied. This was tough! Sorry not a very good picture of it either.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Aug-2007/52477-DSCF4613.JPG

joane
08-02-2007, 09:26 PM
This is my attempt at the shiny fur--decided not to do the eye--just concentrate on the fur. Everyone seems to be "hanging in" with this--in spite of the frustration that comes with doing something that requires such intense concentration--at least it does for me!

bigs
08-03-2007, 03:00 AM
Wow, these are all so great!
I know nobody here needs lessonns on eyes they are all fantastic but boy some of the fur is makes me want to go back & try again!
What's next Teach ?

eyepaint
08-03-2007, 11:05 AM
Wow, these are all so great!
... some of the fur is makes me want to go back & try again!

Me too! This has been taking concentration, as Joane says, and I was getting a bit frustrated. But I think I see some small improvement in mine (compared with a dog I drew in February), so that's exciting. When I see fur drawn by other students - yikes! More practice needed :)

Sue - for more practice, there's a dog in the weekly drawing thread here in D&S. I've started it but oh my it's taking a long time.

Gordon - thank you for your kind comments regarding everyone's work.

Cheers,

binkie
08-03-2007, 12:38 PM
Julia,

Again, thank you so much for the fur lessons. I can't believe how much I've improved already with your guidance. KUDOS!!!!

binkie

Alessandra Rosi
08-03-2007, 01:11 PM
Thank you Gordon, I think we have all done a better work on this assignment,
maybe it was an easier reference or... we have already improved! But let's see what the teacher will say...:rolleyes:
Alessandra

Gordon T
08-04-2007, 02:34 PM
yep teacher knows best (reminds me must get apple for teacher (always was a teachers pet) ).

"J"
08-04-2007, 03:22 PM
Speaking of the teacher. Do you think she has the flu again? I hope she is ok.

Gordon T
08-04-2007, 04:46 PM
probably took one look at the students and thought '' I'm out of here"

tyree
08-04-2007, 04:55 PM
:thumbsup: :wave: wow...after looking at everyones...it makes me want to do mine over...great job everyone!!!! tyree:clap:

bigs
08-05-2007, 02:32 AM
EP, I've started the dog in the D&S Forum but like you its slow going

nes
08-05-2007, 03:34 AM
So I did the tiger as well. Quite frustrating.. guess I need some advice.. should I do more layers? Maybe closer together?
I think you all did a wonderful job on yours! nes
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Aug-2007/104172-IMG_4187.jpg

Gordon T
08-05-2007, 09:47 AM
Nes your tiger fur is ok it just needs more layers in parts so that it doesn't look so flat and that you get different tones in the fur and the same for your darks, although it is difficult to see your scan as it is a bit dark but that is why your taking the class so you can learn about these things so keep it up

nes
08-05-2007, 11:52 AM
Thank you Gordon for your encouraging words!! I am quite enjoying this class since I never really worked with pencils. But I do feel a bit lost so hope the teacher will give me some more advice! Maybe I will work a little bit more on my tiger.. Thanks again! nes

Mustbenuts
08-05-2007, 12:55 PM
Hi All, The lab furs are looking so good. I'm not very happy with mine but felt it was time to get it submitted. My attempt is 3 1/2 x 3 1/2 on Bristol smooth with graphite 4B through 2H.

I've enjoyed the fur assignments and can't wait to see what we get next.

Andrea

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Aug-2007/107653-LabFurPic0001.jpg

Teea
08-05-2007, 05:06 PM
:wave:

Oh my goodness! The progress you all are making is mindblowing- fantastic work everyone! I'm deeply sorry for not being able to be here lately- Unfortunately, life gets on the way: Got a new job, takes time to get used of doing long hours :o Now have few days off from work and can spend it all here and do art, what can be better?! I'm really glad to see the support you're giving to each other, such great group :D:heart:

I'm still wow'ing: it's amazing how fast you've learned- it should be me giving the apples! Great job with the eye, everyone got the reflections and moistness just right- fur looks the way it should- very well done, we can move to a little longer type of fur now! It's going to be the same, just the lenght of the lines will change and the importance of making the darks first will show. Right, now I'm off to write the demonstration :smug: Good to be back! Can't wait to draw something...

Nes, you did very well with the tiger- if you like, you can add few darker spots or lift some graphite at the mid tone area for more depth- :thumbsup:

~Julia

nes
08-06-2007, 12:44 PM
Hi Julia thank you for your comment! Still have a few questions though: how do you get your fur to shine? I did the dogfur but I was not really satisfied about it. Maybe it needs more layers? How many layers do you normaly do? (this one took me allready two hours..) Do you draw the hairs closer together? :o Sorry about all these questions but I really want to learn! I love this class! :thumbsup: Looking forward to the demo, hope you are enjoying your new job!
Nes

Teea
08-06-2007, 04:04 PM
Hiya :wave:


The next assignment is about making long fur, but it's combined with drawing the nose. Did a short demonstration. I wish you'd do the nose first, so leave room to the fur. My apologies of the close working habit, it's just what I'm used to.

This is the one we'll be making:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Aug-2007/84111-wholeref.jpg

And a close-up of the nose for the following demo, you'll need to do a lot of blending here:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Aug-2007/84111-noseref_close.jpg

1. started with a linedrawing then darkened the nostrils. When you look the nose real close you can see a cell type of pattern, made a few random circles, changing the size now and then:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Aug-2007/84111-1.jpg

2. Toned an area:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Aug-2007/84111-2.jpg

3. Blended he area as well as some of the cells:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Aug-2007/84111-3.jpg

4. I started at the corner of the nostril- the technique is really close to circulism, only difference is the circles are fairly large. Drawing the circles, doing small scribbles and toning until I feel it's good enough, then move to another area, tone it first, then blend it:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Aug-2007/84111-4.jpg

5. Continued the same way. Introduced a small part of the fur at the side:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Aug-2007/84111-5.jpg

6. More filling and blending:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Aug-2007/84111-6.jpg

7. And here it's nearly finished, some parts have been restored with a kneaded eraser. It's left at this stage until the rest of the picture is done- then I can come back and tone the highlights that doesn't have to be so bright. In the light parts I used 2H, rest is done with a 3B.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Aug-2007/84111-7.jpg

You can move on to the fur itself, but will show making of it tomorrow.
:cat:
~Julia

*Deirdre*
08-06-2007, 04:13 PM
WOW Julia...that's one fabulous nose!! :thumbsup: Great demo too!! Must away...and start on it right away!!:wave:

Teea
08-06-2007, 04:22 PM
Thanks, Dee :D Looking forward on seeing your study! :clap:

Hi, Nes- Youíll need to leave whites among the fur to look like it has a shine- it can be challenging at first, so what you can do is try to lift off some of the graphite youíd applied. About the layers, Iím not quite sure myself lol, I finish a small area at a time, but could say maybe 3-5 depending how dark the area is and the lines are drawn real close to one another- it takes time, thatís for sure (my normal studies are around 7-8 hours.) And please do post your dogfur study as well, would love to see it :D

~Julia

birdlady
08-06-2007, 05:58 PM
wow I LOVE your technique Julia. It all makes sense and seems easy but will see how it goes. This one is gona be fun fun fun :) :lol:

Laurie

Gordon T
08-06-2007, 06:33 PM
ok got the nose done the scan is a bit close because my scanner has decided it wants to play andI dont want to play so we are not on speaking terms at the moment

emme05
08-06-2007, 10:11 PM
Julia WOW!!! This Nose is Great! Thanks for the indepth demo. I'm still working on the tiger fur, lol, life is too wild right now, but these studies I can take with me. I hope to catch up soon, hehehe! :) I'm definately in the back of the class, but I sneak peeks when I can and appreciate your efforts for all.

Everyone is doing such great jobs on the furs and eyes and now the nose...Gordon, that is looking good!

gourdburner
08-06-2007, 11:21 PM
Here's my long hair. I can see I've still got a ways to go. :rolleyes:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Aug-2007/52477-DSCF4627.JPG

eyepaint
08-07-2007, 02:39 PM
Hi everyone, I worked on the nose. Julia - thank you for the detailed step by step.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Aug-2007/96240-IMGP0129.JPG

Cheers,

IslanderNL
08-07-2007, 03:30 PM
Wow, excellent nose Julia! I love it. Nice clear demo, thanks so much.

Gordon, what a super nose! The dog that is...but I'm sure yours is fine too. :)

Debbie, this is wonderful, lovely and soft looking. My only comment would be to add some darks to really bring out the shine on the nose and the strands of fur.

EP, great sheen to that nose. Its great.

I'm working on mine, should have something to show tonight or tomorrow morning.

Gordon T
08-07-2007, 03:46 PM
Emme thank you, dont worry about falling behind take your time if you start to rush everything to catch up you will only end up with unsatisfactory work and then you will become dispondant and then poor julia will have the hard job of picking your spirit back up again
Debbie this is good but I agree with jeanette about the darks I think mine is not dark enough either
EP You have a good nose there but i think yours needs darkening too
Jeanette Thank you for your comments and my nose is damp and wet as well LOL

mjenk
08-07-2007, 04:02 PM
WOW- everyone's doing such a great job here! I was away for a couple days, then my internet service died on me :evil:...but I'm back and ready to take a stab at that nose! Thanks Julia for all the great info!

Gordon T
08-07-2007, 04:12 PM
I have darkened my nose a bit more so that it is black not grey and my printer has appologised to me and is working proper again http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Aug-2007/41972-fur.jpg

Reinhard1
08-07-2007, 04:49 PM
Still being deeply immersed in Armin's class I find only very little time to go checking into other threads. My goodness are you all doing a great job here. I'll be peeking in once in a while to see you all grow under the excellent guidance of Julia.

mjenk
08-07-2007, 05:05 PM
Here's my nose...I still feel like I really have to use a lot of pressure to get the darks on the bristol paper. Why does Julia have to make it 'look' so easy? :lol: Gorden- looking good! Glad your printer is playing nice with you!

gourdburner
08-07-2007, 05:57 PM
I darkened it up some but this is where I get into trouble. I'm afraid of the dark it seems! :rolleyes:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Aug-2007/52477-DSCF4634.JPG

Gordon T
08-07-2007, 06:11 PM
Michelle I like your nose, is your paper a smooth paper as it seems textured to me and that could be your problem as to not getting your darks
Debbie never be scared of your darks ( I was once) because they can be your friend when doing a drawing

barbaara
08-07-2007, 06:14 PM
Hei!
Thank you Julia for great demo! Pure bliss when you understand at last why and how to do something! We can see day by day how everybody grows and learn new trikcs.So good draws from everyone.
Thanks again Julia!::heart:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Aug-2007/107203-Picture_038.jpg

Gordon T
08-07-2007, 06:22 PM
Barbaara your very brave tackling the fur I was going to do the same but Julia said she was going to show us how it is done and as I didnt want to ruin what I had done I thought I would wait, but you have done an excellent job on his fur wish I had your confidence to go ahead and do it well done

barbaara
08-07-2007, 06:49 PM
Thank you Gordon! But I think I made a new width Julia.Because I dodnt make the nose Julias way and it doesnt looks good for me,allso the fur!Better wait the teatch!

mjenk
08-07-2007, 07:26 PM
Gordon- Thanks. It's Bristol Smooth 300 series paper. I noticed when I resized it in Corel Draw it seemed to 'add' the texture...? not sure why.
Debbie- That's why were here...to overcome our fear of the dark! Looking really good!
Barbaara- You're making great progress on this!

nes
08-08-2007, 06:22 AM
Barbaara, I really like your fur!
Debbie, I guess we all are afraid of the darks... it's my problem too, I don't know why.. it's just a piece of paper...
Michelle, your nose is great!
I am going to give it a try as well! (I wish there were more hours in a day..)
Nes

bigs
08-08-2007, 07:44 AM
Wow there are great noses here and Barbara that is great looking fur. Here is my nose have just popped in some loose gestures of the long hair - it look slike a Briard's nose - is it?

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Aug-2007/92218-my_nose.jpg

nes
08-08-2007, 10:02 AM
Hi all, here is another nose! I was ready to give up.. this is sooooo difficult! Maybe I didn't do enough of the basic drawingtechniques.. :confused: but I am learning so much and that is the most important thing! Hope Julia is going to do the demo of the long hair since I have no idea how to start...:eek:
you have done well, bigs, I guess you are right, must be a Briard. Looking forward to all the 'long hair' drawings! nes

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Aug-2007/104172-IMG_4188.jpg

eyepaint
08-08-2007, 12:22 PM
Jeanette - thank you
Gordon - thanks for your note about the darks.

Here's an update on the nose (fingers crossed that it's darker?)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Aug-2007/96240-IMGP0132.JPG

Cheers,

birdlady
08-08-2007, 01:07 PM
wow some really great noses in here and appreciate those that went on to do some of or all of the fur. MEEEEeee TOO!!! I dont do to good on getting darks in.
:o

Laurie
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Aug-2007/5126-my_nose_done_.jpg

Gerri Mc
08-08-2007, 01:24 PM
"I figured that if I couldn't call myself an artist then I knew no one else would either." PAKC

This drawing is really beautiful - can't wait to try the technique on my lovely long haired cats!


Thanks also to PAKC for the great quote above - I'll try to remember it when my confidence needs a boost.

joane
08-08-2007, 01:47 PM
Here is my first attempt at the nose--I have discovered I know little about a dog's nose and had difficulty finding the "landmarks" at the lower border of the nose. I find colored photos help me with that more than the grayscale. I tried it anyway to practice the technique. Some very nice doggie noses here!

Gordon T
08-08-2007, 04:19 PM
well we dont seem to have many problems when it comes to noses(noses have always run in my family LOL) there are some very good demonstrations of that here well done all

*Deirdre*
08-08-2007, 07:20 PM
No one knows until they've tried drawing a nose - just how messy it can get!! Euch!! Did I just say that?:eek: :eek: :D

I actually tried twice - once on watercolour paper...then on Bristol...but you may as well see both...neither is great...but I'm still practising, right Julia?:lol:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Aug-2007/33616-nose.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Aug-2007/33616-nose1.jpg

joane
08-08-2007, 07:34 PM
I think your "noses" look just great Deirdre--I have started on my second one and like it less than the first one!! Oh well--back to the drawing board hohoho!

mjenk
08-08-2007, 08:38 PM
Everyone's nose are looking sooo good! Great job everyone!

scrappie
08-08-2007, 09:53 PM
WOW REALLY NICE WORK EVERYONE:clap:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Aug-2007/88717-longhair_and_nosie_1.jpg

IslanderNL
08-09-2007, 09:51 AM
I think my dog is sick.

His nose isn't half as shiny and wet as others here. :( I shall try again I believe - or call the vet. :D

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Aug-2007/67422-dog+nose.jpg

*Deirdre*
08-09-2007, 10:29 AM
I like all the other noses...you'll all done brilliantly!:clap: :clap: :clap:
Perhaps no 3....?:evil: :wink2: :D

Gordon T
08-09-2007, 10:29 AM
jeanette I can cure your dog for you just go darker on the darks

Angelhaven
08-09-2007, 12:00 PM
Julia, I have been in the background trying to make my fur drawings up to the high standards others have been doing but I know I need a lot of help so have chosen to put my efforts forward at this time. All comments welcome.

Julia, thank you for helping us all:clap:

IslanderNL
08-09-2007, 12:18 PM
jeanette I can cure your dog for you just go darker on the darks

A miracle! :lol: I'll do that, thanks Gordon

Gordon T
08-09-2007, 03:03 PM
Angel you dont have to worry about getting to our standards because what I see in your work you are already there but you can join us as we try to get to julia's standard

"J"
08-09-2007, 04:33 PM
My dog nose

Gordon T
08-09-2007, 07:57 PM
nice nose Jeanne

"J"
08-09-2007, 09:17 PM
Thanks Gordon.

sadscribbler
08-10-2007, 07:23 AM
There's some fabulous work here and the tips are really helpful. I'm a few days behind everyone else so I hope you don't mind if I join the fun. I did look at the negative drawing class first and here's my clump of grass that I did in about 15 minutes:http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Aug-2007/94652-b102_16_01.jpg
Its about 10x15cm.

Then I went straight onto the tiger exercise:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Aug-2007/94652-b102_16_02.jpg
This is 15x10cm using H, B & 3B pencils. I spent about 40 minutes on it. The paper is basic quality, I didn't sharpen the pencils often enough and I think I rushed it in my enthusiasm. I'll keep trying and see if I can catch up!

John

sadscribbler
08-10-2007, 09:00 AM
......and here is the dog exercise, 10x10cm.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Aug-2007/94652-b102_16_04.JPG
I can see that mine is a bit sketchy compared to most of the other posts. I must be more patient. I must be more patient. I must be more patient....

John

nes
08-10-2007, 09:46 AM
Love to see all those noses! Well done everyone!
John, I guess that is our biggist problem... patience... how will I ever do a 'whole' dog... Your exercise are great, good luck with your nose!
And.. are you all going to start the long hair or are you going to wait for the demo? Nes

Teea
08-10-2007, 07:01 PM
Absolutely fantastic work, everyone! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Bah, I've been sucked into the work vortex- were suppose to have few days off, but sadly it never happened. Oh well, still have the late night hours to use :D I made a start for the demo.

The starting point in drawing both long and short fur is the same, lines that may have a small difference in length:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Aug-2007/84111-1.jpg

When drawing short fur, the lines are kept short and random- in long fur lines are drawn together, so it will create an illusion of continuous line- this line can be altered at both ends:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Aug-2007/84111-2.jpg


1.
Lightly sketched some of the outline to be sort of a map to help me where I should be heading- the outlines are not as dark as seen here, scanner loves to pick them up for some reason. There's a lot of dark here, so it's basically just toning until there's nothing left of the poor pencil :o

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Aug-2007/84111-longfur1.jpg

2. Continued to fill in the darks.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Aug-2007/84111-longfur2.jpg

3. Fur'ing along. Lifted off some graphite to save lost highlights and blended.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Aug-2007/84111-longfur3.jpg

Will come back to reply and continue with this one, but now really need some sleeeeep :)
G'night :wave:

~Julia

nes
08-11-2007, 09:05 AM
Thank you Julia, for your time! Hope you had some sleep! I am practising the
long fur but mmmm it doesn't look as smooth as yours at all....:crying: But as they say.. practise makes perfect... :confused:
What kind of pencil did you use? I tried hb, 2b and 3b but it doesn;t look good.. do you first do an erea in the same gray tone and then darken it just by pressing harder or do you use different pencils? I guess with the long fur we use neg. drawing even more? pff will I ever learn. Thanks again for your demo;s :thumbsup: , Nes

Gordon T
08-11-2007, 11:11 AM
did this bit last night/this morning I am quite pleased with the outcome I think I am getting better even though we have only just started the course just learning the basic way of starting has helped me so thank you julia for that http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Aug-2007/41972-fur.jpg

tyree
08-11-2007, 01:30 PM
:wave: gordon...thats looking really good!!! tyree

artastic
08-11-2007, 02:42 PM
hee is my nose and another with fur
this is SUCH a good thread and I am learning so much from everyone
thanks so much for your instruction teea, and your time

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Aug-2007/104250-nose.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Aug-2007/104250-nose-long.jpg

they scanned in kind of grainy, I think they look better IRL

nes
08-11-2007, 03:30 PM
Gordon and bonnie well done!! :thumbsup: :clap:

Gordon T
08-11-2007, 07:55 PM
Tyree, Nes thank you
Bonnie these are looking good, the scanning does alter the drawing a fair bit at times which can be annoying

joane
08-11-2007, 08:53 PM
Now that I see it scanned, I don't think I have enough contrasts, but practice makes perfect--I hope! Will do this one again too--this is drawn on my third drawing of the nose!

Gordon T
08-12-2007, 04:34 AM
Joane this is fine it just needs some darks added and it will look a lot better

bigs
08-12-2007, 07:32 AM
Boy you folk are quick - playing-catch up again! :D

joane
08-12-2007, 10:46 AM
Thanks, Gordon
It is actually much darker than the scanner shows--I really think this time I didn't leave enough lights. Will play around with it and see--I want to try it again anyway. Everyone is doing so well with this--seems to be something lots of us want to master!

duene
08-12-2007, 12:37 PM
Hi, I'm Duene. I just discovered this class and hope I am not too late. It looks to me like a lot of very talented people here! Here are my first three drawings.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Aug-2007/92645-fur0074.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Aug-2007/92645-eye_and_fur0075_copy.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Aug-2007/92645-nose0076_copy.jpg

duene
08-12-2007, 12:41 PM
How do you attach a thumbnail? I am inserting images, but while scrolling through pages of replies, it seems to me thumbnails would be easier for people viewing the posts.

Duene

Gordon T
08-12-2007, 12:42 PM
hello Duene no your not to late to join and you are most welcome your three assignments are very good I perticulary like the second one very good well done

Mustbenuts
08-12-2007, 02:56 PM
Forgive me. I'm late with my first nose. I wasn't happy with it and planned to redraw. I did redraw just below my first nose and added the fur from yesterdays assignment. So, now you get the good bad and ugly. :evil: I've been having upload problems and had to use Manage Attachments for the WDT. Hope Image Uploader works this time

Julia, I'm enjoying the class immensely. Here's another enormous thank you.:clap:
What a great collection of noses with Fur. :thumbsup: A whole class of super stars.

Andrea

Mustbenuts
08-12-2007, 03:19 PM
Noses and fur are looking so good I had to comment. Gordon, you should add "Speed Demon" to your signature. Love your nose and the highlights are perfect.
Bonnie, I really like the second nose and the fur flows.
Joane, Hi from WDT. Your nose texture is perfect. I had to redo my nose as well. The scanner is still making me crazy. :D
Duene, you will love this class. The Lab eye and fur are super.
:clap::clap::clap:
Can't wait for our next assignment.

Andrea

joyceg
08-12-2007, 03:38 PM
Trying to catchup here, did the nose and fur together. The scan doesn't seem to pick up the darks as much as are there.

Did this with mechanical pencils, .9mm, .7mm, .5mm, HB and 2B on Bristol Vellum, approx 5"x5"

Good job, everyone and thanks, Teea, sorry you are working such long hours.

eyepaint
08-12-2007, 05:07 PM
Julia - thank you for your instructions and sorry to hear that you're working long hours.

I added fur to my dog's nose. This ref photo makes me think of a long-haired hippy with wavy hair :)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Aug-2007/96240-IMGP0612.JPG


Cheers,

Gordon T
08-12-2007, 06:49 PM
Duene here is how to load thumbnails;- at the bottom of the quick reply box is a box marked go advanced press this and you go to another page with smileys and everything when it is loaded if you scroll down to the aditional options box you will see a small box that says manage attachments press this and another page opens go to upload image from computer and press browse this will take you to your files pick the picture you want to load (please note they have to be a certain size ) double click it and you will see the file name in the box next to the browse box then press upload when it is uploaded the file name will appear in the space next to upload then scroll down to close this window press this button then scroll down to submit reply and it will load, I hope I have made this as clear as possible for you it sounds complicated but it is so easy to do

DGrau
08-12-2007, 11:59 PM
Everyone is doing such a wonderfull job. Got some free time today, may not be able to do a complete dog but will go as far as I can. Thank you Teea for all of your work and explanations.
david
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Aug-2007/34090-teea-study.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Aug-2007/34090-teeas-nose.jpg

duene
08-13-2007, 02:02 PM
I have added hair to my nose drawing, but just couldn't get enough dark. I started with a harder lead, and jusst couldn't get the dark black to layer over it.



Thanks, Gordon for the instructions on how to upload a thumbnail. I think using thembnails will make it easier to view images.



Duene

Gordon T
08-13-2007, 06:55 PM
I ( the speed demon) did a bit more of the fur on this one as I wanted to see if I could do it, sorry about the quality of the picture but my scanner has decided that it wants to win our private war and is not working at all at the moment!

birdlady
08-13-2007, 07:38 PM
a very nice addition to it Gordon. I like how u got your darks. Which pencil did u use for that part? It just keeps getting better in here with all of us. :)

Laurie

Gordon T
08-13-2007, 07:47 PM
Laurie thank you the pencils I have been using are 2h then hb then either 3b or 6b

joane
08-13-2007, 08:51 PM
Out in front again Gordon--I am jealous! Very nice fur--your practice certainly shows--now if you will just add a couple more hours to my day too please!!

scrappie
08-13-2007, 11:40 PM
The furs all look wonderful:clap: update on my fur jobhttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Aug-2007/88717-longhair_and_nosie_2.jpg

sadscribbler
08-14-2007, 05:06 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Aug-2007/94652-B102_16_14.JPG
Seeing everyone else's work is really helpful. I did the nose (right) but didn't like it so I started again (left). I'm more pleased with the new nose but don't seem to be getting the hang of the long hair. I sharpened my pencils, used finer strokes and practiced not making hooks on the ends! It's still just like a tangle. Help! Have I blown it or is this version still recoverable?

John

Gordon T
08-14-2007, 06:14 AM
Joane unfortunately I do not have any spare hours to give you I would if I could but I can't
Scrappie looking good so far
John your noses are fine and you have done a good job on the fur I think you just have to add more fur to it to make it thicker, so no you haven't blown it
managed to get scanner working (another victory for the speed demon:clap: )so here is a proper scan of my drawing

nes
08-15-2007, 06:10 AM
Just to let you know I am still there... just haven't a lot of time to draw.. here is my progress so far. Trying to do the negative drawing but still find it very hard!
Had a look at all your noses with fur and they look wonderful!:thumbsup: :clap:
Try to keep up with you all!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Aug-2007/104172-IMG_4205.jpg

birdlady
08-15-2007, 11:48 AM
nes good start and will watch for the finish on it.. ok Gordon thats what I used on mine too after reading your post :)


Laurie


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Aug-2007/5126-nose_and_fur_.jpg

birdlady
08-15-2007, 11:50 AM
why is it AFTER u post u see improvements that should have been made BEFORE u posted what a dumb looking mouth. Hey did we ever figure out what the breed was on this one?

:mad: :(

Laurie

Gordon T
08-15-2007, 12:30 PM
Laurie you have done a good job on this fur and don't complain about the mouth as you can't see the mouth on the ref so it is guess work

"J"
08-15-2007, 03:09 PM
The reference looks to me like the long haired Dachshund on the teacher's website.

birdlady
08-15-2007, 08:26 PM
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm J... I went to her site and didnt find it or is it the sepia one on the front page your referrring to? but ty for telling me

Laurie

"J"
08-15-2007, 09:52 PM
Sorry Birdlady I led you astray. I remembered a long bearded doxie but it was the one you saw on the web page. Totally different dog. My bad...senior moment.

Someone Bigs I think said it might be a briard. Looks similar but the briards I saw on google had more facial hair. I will be anxious to see what we are drawing.

I will sit back and keep my mouth shut (errr fingers still) and make sure I have my facts straight next time.

sadscribbler
08-16-2007, 04:33 AM
Laurie I always notice more mistakes AFTER up-loading. I'm glad its not just me!

Gordon Thanks, I'll keep going.

I thought I was drawing highland cattle!!!

John

nes
08-16-2007, 09:00 AM
I did some more... I guess I need some reassurance if I am on the right track! Don't you find it difficult to see which part of the fur you are doing?
I keep getting confused! nes


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Aug-2007/104172-IMG_4223.jpg

sketch-a-holic
08-16-2007, 11:30 AM
I know I am way behind but we had some major down time at work yesterday when our system went down so I had a chance to start on the first two assignments. They are about 4.5 x 4.5 in. and are done in a really cheap sketchbook with a rose art Quest 0.7mm Mechanical pencil. (very technical!! =) I borrowed it from my coworker. Most of the tiger one was done with a Ebony pencil until i got frustrated and switched to the mechanical one. I noticed it was a lot harder to get the darks very dark with it, but... it worked better than the ebony pencil. I am planning on attempting the dog nose today. Oh, and the tiger took about 30 min, and the dog about 1 hr with minor interruptions... silly work! =)

All comments and criticism welcome. =)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/Soccer_37/815.07tigerfur.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/Soccer_37/815.07BlackLabEye.jpg

Gordon T
08-16-2007, 05:01 PM
Nes let me reassure you you are doing fine thats a good portrail of long fur you have there
sketch- a- holic good work on the tiger fur, and your highlights on your short dog fur are very good keep up the good work

scrappie
08-16-2007, 05:15 PM
Number two drawing using a Reeves 3b graphite pencil, bluetack and tortillon.


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Gordon T
08-16-2007, 08:27 PM
Excellent!!

scrappie
08-16-2007, 08:47 PM
Gordon thanks I also enjoy all of yoour works.
The furs all look excellent:clap:

birdlady
08-16-2007, 09:00 PM
true Gordaon and TY :)

J ...dats ok will be interesting to find out what it is from the teacher :)

sadscribbler ..we be in the same boat then :lol: cattle huh :)

nes thats lookin good

sketch-a-holic ..glad u got in and u got the break.. I love my ebony pencil for darks but also use the 6b a lot

WOW scrappie great job!!!!

scrappie
08-17-2007, 06:32 PM
Wheres the teacher

Gordon T
08-17-2007, 08:02 PM
unfortunately she has to work long hours and cannot normally return to us until the weekend

joyceg
08-20-2007, 05:43 AM
Is the class still on??

Gordon T
08-20-2007, 07:12 AM
as far as we know but julia has weird hours for working so we have to be patient and wait but it is worth the wait

Teea
08-20-2007, 03:40 PM
Yes, the class is still running and I'm back, although a living coffee zombie, but ready to get some drawing and painting done- you have no idea how terrible I feel not to have been able to be here- wish I could have known better :( Will draw over the nights now to get this thing moving again. Fortunately, the utterly long days are almost over and pet commissions are waiting to get started; so can happilly say to be back to normal arty life soon.

2nd part of the long fur is on the way :D
Thank you for being so patient!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Aug-2007/84111-coffee.jpg

~Julia

scrappie
08-20-2007, 05:07 PM
Julia take your time were not going any where.

Mustbenuts
08-20-2007, 06:11 PM
What scrappie said. Andrea

Gordon T
08-24-2007, 09:06 PM
still here?

birdlady
08-24-2007, 09:12 PM
I am Gordon

"J"
08-24-2007, 11:30 PM
You guys feeling lonely?

eyepaint
08-24-2007, 11:49 PM
Teea - if you need an angry mob to charge your boss so she or he will give you enough time off to work on your art with us, just let us know. We can hop on the next plane heading your way. :)

sadscribbler
08-25-2007, 04:50 AM
Welcome back teacher http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Aug-2007/94652-0708_251.JPG

John

nes
08-25-2007, 05:06 AM
well, it gives me time to catch up.. Looking forward to the next assignment though! Nes

joane
08-25-2007, 10:57 AM
Hello all, just got back from vacation and hoping to catch up, but looks like I am in the same place as everyone else. Sorry Teea doesn't have time to "play" right now--will patiently wait for her return.

emme05
08-26-2007, 12:10 PM
:wave: Hi All!

You are all doing or have done SO fantasically on the assignments. I myself have been so busy with life I'm still working on the Tiger Fur! Almost finished with that though. :)

While we are waiting for Julia we could always practice what we've already done, meaning look for different dog eyes and noses in different poses, oh and the surrounding fur! And see how we do :) Just a thought.

See you all soon!

Gordon T
08-26-2007, 01:36 PM
Michele you must be the Monica Geller/Bing (Friends) of the class the one that all the other class pupils want to take outside and tie them up to keep them away from the teacher so we dont get any homework LOL

emme05
08-26-2007, 02:42 PM
Gordon LOL! Hilarious! :lol:

AND, it is so easy for me to talk about more homework, when I haven't finished the first assignment yet, lol! Plus still working away on the project from Armins class :eek:

But I can Cheer you all on! :p

Gordon T
08-26-2007, 07:54 PM
Michele so really your the chatty one at the back of the class that never gets their homework done

emme05
08-27-2007, 03:55 PM
Ah, Gordon Never say Never! lol. But it will seem like ForEver! I"m so busy right now and I've been taking my tiger fur piece with me places, a few strokes here & there,

The tiger fur is 5 x 7 inches, the other assignments I'll go smaller....Plus I had this 'problem' - I wanted to use only mechanical pencils, but my darkest was a 2B, that was so slow going! So, I broke out the wooden 4B and 6B and happy things began, darks were much easier to obtain, I'm learning.

But yeah, I do sit in the back and talk alot! :p

Gordon T
08-27-2007, 06:05 PM
well can't wait to see this tiger fur so please hurry and post it

nes
08-31-2007, 09:12 AM
Hi all, here is my last assignment, I've learned a lot just by doing this! hope we soon get some more! nes

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/31-Aug-2007/104172-IMG_4252.jpg

Gordon T
08-31-2007, 07:01 PM
Nes this is very good, hope we have more to do soon as well

Gordon T
09-01-2007, 09:14 PM
:music: DUM DEE DUM DEE DUM DUM DUM DOO:music:

scrappie
09-02-2007, 07:16 PM
:confused:

Gordon T
09-03-2007, 07:43 AM
lets build a camp fire and roast marshmellows and sing some songs while we wait :eek: :music: gin gan goolie goolie watch ya gin gan goo:music: :eek: :lol: :thumbsup:

IslanderNL
09-04-2007, 09:20 PM
I presume that this class is not continuing as the instructor hasn't posted for two weeks. However, I'll check back now and then just in case.