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LarrySeiler
06-13-2007, 12:23 AM
Okay...so, with the weather being nice...who the heck wants to paint inside, and who is likely to check this subforum right now with all the lovely paintings in our PA forum???

But...what the hey..

I've been fortunate to have been a guest/featured artist for quite a few wildlife conservation group's fundraising banquets over the years, such as Ducks Unlimited, Trout Unlimited...and for the past five years the Ruffed Grouse Society...

This year marks a first, and quite an honor I think, which will be the guest/featured artist for our state's annual Department of Natural Resources Warden's convention. A three day affair filled with seminars for all the wardens of the state...a bit of fun here and there for them in-between, picnics and such...but on a Monday night is their big banquet. My wife and I will attend, put up for the night...and I'm working on a large 30"x 40" oil on canvas right now...having started it tonight. Good thing I have my Garrett's copal medium so that it will be dry in time!

A friend of mine locally just happens to be a state warden, so this afternoon he was kind enough to sport a long sleeve shirt (in near 80 degree temps), so that I could snap a bunch of pictures. Here was one of them...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2007/532-refwarden.jpg

The only thing he suggested and requested was I not make it obvious the painting is him. He figures...who of his many co-workers will want a painting of him on their walls? Sounds like they will be planning to put this in print, and if so...all the better for me. I'm not getting a lot for this as is, ... largely a donation of my time.

I used a former plein air piece...and apologize for the glare on this. Taken sitting on my paint table in my art room...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2007/532-pleinair_ref_ratriver.jpg

I worked from a computer in my room for the reference...here, a closeup of one area..

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2007/532-cpu_setup.jpg

I chose to work with the neutral midgray mud palette I've been playing with for the past four months or so...here, some neutrals for the warden which I painted first...
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2007/532-wardenpalette1.jpg

Here is the warden painted up to look spontaneously painted...
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2007/532-paintwarden_first.jpg

then mixed up the neutral mud to block in the trees...
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2007/532-treemud_palette.jpg

I very quickly painted in the trees...then mixed up paint and worked in the sky and water...so,
here it is...after first session...once again 30"x 40"

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2007/532-warden_endsession1.jpg

I'll be adding more suggestion of foliage, branches that the warden is trying to hide behind to glass the duck hunters, and post as this develops.

The job of wardens typically is spending time observing those hunting and fishing outdoors...counting how many birds and what kind are being shot, fish caught and so forth.

In a sense, this is close to an illustration, having narrative...and I wanted the warden to stand out strong. Painting him in there first gives me a measuring stick so that other darks, edges and various things do not conflict. I want him a main subject, and to feel closer...

Larry

Meimei
06-13-2007, 01:37 AM
They are going to love this!

LarrySeiler
06-13-2007, 01:46 AM
you know, Nancy...I was thinking with all the state's wardens at this thing, and my love of spending time outdoors??? It would be a very good thing if they do "love this" :D

hahaaa.....

thanks...

brianc
06-13-2007, 07:54 AM
Ha! Larry, the likeness of the warden is super. I took me a minute to see the duck hunters, but the wardens will all see them :D Maybe some ducks in the sky?

Sounds like a great event and an honor. And it never hurts to have a few warden adn DNR friends when one is out in the woods all the time :D.

LarrySeiler
06-13-2007, 08:18 AM
oh yeah...there will be ducks. Just got too tired last night to do anything more, and wanted to establish the stage setting. Wanted to emphasize the "emphasis" so I'll be able to set everything else in the narrative in a yet important but subordinate relationship to the warden. First things first...as they say.

As a former full time wildlife artist, I made it a point and a good habit of getting to know wardens and DNR officials wherever I lived. In fact, they have provided me hands on for my eyes only privilege to handle protected bird mounts...skins, to paint from that would then be returned. I owe them a good deal...and they have been gracious many times to share their own appreciation. A very amiable relationship.

thanks Brian...

Jason Seiler
06-13-2007, 09:49 AM
Dad, this is going to be aweseome!!! I can't believe how fast you can paint, wish I could paint that well and that fast . . . would save me some sanity!
-Jason

LarrySeiler
06-13-2007, 10:04 AM
hahaha...the good news is that you will paint fast...the bad news is that when you paint fast, you might be a bit older. Hopefully your very good talent will overcome deficits that my best intent had to strive to break thru...and you won't nearly have to wait as long. I doubt it seeing what you are doing.

For those unaware of Jason's work...check out his website and blog...
he just painted up a high end caricature for an up and coming issue of Mad magazine...and did an awesome caricature of Tiger Woods with other players looking on for Golf Magazine... Can't share them yet till the issues hit the market, but they are awesome!

www.jasonseiler.com
http://www.jasonseilerillustration.blogspot.com/

thanks Jason for poppin' in...hope I can pull this off decently. Not much choice eh? I'm the headliner for the convention one way or the other. Its got to work... :eek:

Based on our own discussions...can you see my emphasis is that this will be a painting first and foremost..? Edges...brushwork..

:)

Jason Seiler
06-13-2007, 11:46 AM
Based on our own discussions...can you see my emphasis is that this will be a painting first and foremost..? Edges...brushwork..

:)


Yeah totally, it's "real" art! I love it, can't wait to see the final!
-Jason

LarrySeiler
06-13-2007, 10:15 PM
Well...here it is after day two...
pumped up values and color, added work to the trees, some shrubbery (the Knights that said "Ni!" helped there...)

Also...added ducks...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2007/532-warden_endsession2.jpg

starting to feel out the light coming from the right...and more rendering to come..
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2007/532-warden_endsession2_closeup.jpg

Will probably add more ducks...but for now...this is the start. Note the one suggestion of a duck shot and folding. Funny how a twist and turn of a brush can produce that feeling...which makes painting fun!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2007/532-warden_ducks.jpg

brianc
06-14-2007, 07:22 AM
Looking awesome Larry. Those details and darker values in the distance are really unifying. Although... check the red in the forest on the left... my immediate impression was "fire" and it pulls the eye from the focal point of the hunters. Consider a little less chroma OR extending the red over to where the hunters are, as well as to the tops of the trees on distant left.

LarrySeiler
06-14-2007, 09:44 AM
Looking awesome Larry. Those details and darker values in the distance are really unifying. Although... check the red in the forest on the left... my immediate impression was "fire" and it pulls the eye from the focal point of the hunters. Consider a little less chroma OR extending the red over to where the hunters are, as well as to the tops of the trees on distant left.

Thanks Brian...

Actually...I like the reds of my reference plein air, which was filtered light coming thru the back of the forests. Will give especially that early fall feeling...so my intent is to beef everything else up 'till those reds look natural.

Doesn't fit at the moment, so I know what you're saying...but putting those reds in there helps set a bar for me to measure, compare and contrast so that it forces my hand to tweak things until the volume and mood of this thing gets turned up where I'm aiming.

If I play those reds down...then this painting is too dang near a finishing, and I don't want that happening just yet.

Good eye though...and you'd be technically right if I were near finishing, but hopefully explained...it makes better sense now...

come back...check it out later... ;)

Larry

brianc
06-14-2007, 03:07 PM
Thanks Brian...

Actually...I like the reds of my reference plein air, which was filtered light coming thru the back of the forests. Will give especially that early fall feeling...so my intent is to beef everything else up 'till those reds look natural.

Doesn't fit at the moment, so I know what you're saying...but putting those reds in there helps set a bar for me to measure, compare and contrast so that it forces my hand to tweak things until the volume and mood of this thing gets turned up where I'm aiming.

If I play those reds down...then this painting is too dang near a finishing, and I don't want that happening just yet.

Good eye though...and you'd be technically right if I were near finishing, but hopefully explained...it makes better sense now...

come back...check it out later... ;)

LarryNo problem, Larry, you are the expert :D Sometimes another opinion just helps one settle into his own opinion! I'll be excited to see how it completes.

Jason Seiler
06-14-2007, 03:38 PM
Looking really good! I love the falling duck, and the color and mood is really nice.

-Jason

LarrySeiler
06-14-2007, 06:50 PM
thanks Jason...

put the US Open Pro Golf tournament on in my art room today, and painted. Beefing up values, livening up and pushing some color. Starting to get that later afternoon/light feel now. Worked the warden some more too, but much to do...and I worked the sky, but its not done yet either.

Gettn' there though...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Jun-2007/532-warden_endsession3.jpg

I have to decide too if I can get away with as much the warden is now standing behind. If I should add more debris/foliage, branches...but at what risk compositionally. Too many visual voices spoils the eye flow...

LarrySeiler
06-15-2007, 07:02 PM
Funny...I used to put a couple hundred hours into every painting for near 20 years and now...finishing up my fourth session after about 12 years painting alla prima outdoors, seems like this thing is taking forever!

Each time, the session works on beefing up color and values a bit more. The sky later in the afternoon now...which I was aiming for. More color in the background trees...more work in the water and the thin ice...work on the warden's shirt...paints, and worked on the hand and binoculars. Still not done with the hand. Have to get the rendering/modeling down right, not there yet.

but...after the 4th day on it, here it is...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Jun-2007/532-warden_endsession4.jpg

brianc
06-16-2007, 03:54 PM
Sky's looking gorgeous. The red is better in the trees. Looking good!

LarrySeiler
06-16-2007, 08:22 PM
thanks Brian...

I'm going to sit on this for a few days now...see if it feels done, if I need to do much more...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Jun-2007/532-warden_endsessiondone1.jpg

added a couple more ducks as well...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Jun-2007/532-wardencloseupducks2.jpg

Larry

brianc
06-16-2007, 10:48 PM
Looks complete to me. Your colors are harmonious. Your light is consistent. I notice even the ranger has sunlight colors to bring him into the painting.

The ducks and the hunter's blind are very effective. I think it's done.

LarrySeiler
06-16-2007, 11:02 PM
appreciate the affirmation, Brian...

my son dropped me a line, said it looked good with his eye as well...

ts'what I hoped to hear...
thanks

Larry

LarrySeiler
06-28-2007, 09:19 AM
as a follow-up..
my wife and I had a grand time. We were treated celebrity style.

Found out the last time the state DNR commissioned an artist was 26 years ago, and an artist that had a good deal of influence on my work as a wildlife artist back then, William Koelpin. Felt it quite an honor to follow in his footsteps.

The painting went for near $3,000 in their banquet auction, and everyone was quite pleased. I may have picked up a commission too....but time will tell on that.

Larry