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soap
05-01-2007, 08:33 AM
Hi
I am planning to do this as my next painting but after figuring out a lot in Photoshop, I cannot make up my mind at the moment about which shape the painting to do in.

The first Photoshop set up is less rectangular than the next, which is much wider than its high. The wider one would fit a standard piece of pastel paper and frame (!) better, but although it would be handy it should not decide what to go for.

The more squarish one shows a bit more of the man's head and there's more space underneath his hand. There are some other differences in colours etc, but I am only wondering about the overal shape of the painting now. Anything else I'll figure out during the painting process.

You might not see that much difference (I am going on about nothing??:confused: :p ) but,

which one do you think is better?? The top one or the bottom one?

This just a photo edit - no painting yet!
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-May-2007/15421-composition.jpg

Thanks! Cannot wait to get started...

LEIGH RUST
05-01-2007, 09:04 AM
While both comps have their merits I feel that the bottom one is a little more intimate. I'd possibly suggest that you keep the base at the same position as the top piece. That way you can get the space under the hand and those wonderful lead ins with the folds on the sleeve. While I wouldn't suggest removing much of the man's head perhaps zooming out a bit to add some more space to the sides may help combine the best of both layouts.

Artistammy
05-01-2007, 09:50 AM
I like the bottom one also.
Tammy

Bringer
05-01-2007, 10:06 AM
Hi there,

I prefer the bottom one.
It transmits better, not only visually but also in terms of sensations, the cumplicity/love (sp?) between both.

Kind regards,

José

soap
05-01-2007, 10:36 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-May-2007/15421-comp3.jpg Thanks for that...
going by your advice - I amended it like this....added a bit on the left and right....

hmmmm....
Suppose I better get started...LOL

THANKS

AnnieA
05-01-2007, 10:48 AM
Oh yeah, that last one works great. Good advice, Leigh. It looks like this is going to be a fantastic piece, soap. :)

I'm just curious: is this something you painted digitally from a photo reference, or is it an edit of an actual photo?

soap
05-01-2007, 10:53 AM
Annie, I just digitally painted over the photo. First to get rid of the background, then I moved the man about a bit, then I 'painted' to get rid of some edges, change colours etc etc. I hope I solved some problems at this stage, not only composition, but also edges, dark and light etc. No doubt the actual painting will look completely different, LOL!!
Thanks for your input!

LEIGH RUST
05-01-2007, 11:05 AM
I'm looking forward to watching this develop. The new comp is perfect

Karen Margulis
05-01-2007, 01:41 PM
I vote for the bottom one as it seems more intimate. I can see why you are excited about starting...this is going to be wonderful!!!

Karen

Viuhti
05-01-2007, 03:36 PM
Hope I don´t make things more difficult with a different opinion. I woul´d cut off some from the right side to make it even more close together. But you can allways make the final desicion with matting, right. All in all it looks great!

Merethe T
05-01-2007, 04:21 PM
Pulling up a chair.....lovely comp, will be interesting to watch this come to life!

Merethe

Netty
05-01-2007, 04:48 PM
This is going to be a really beautiful painting. How fantastic! you did this on photo shop? I have photo shop but have not learnt how to work it yet!! Man, I am going to have to learn!!
Love your comp !

Annie:)

DAK723
05-01-2007, 09:44 PM
Just my personal opinion, but I would crop the right edge. I have done so in Photoshop.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-May-2007/82335-15421-comp3cropped.jpg.jpe

Don

winecountry
05-02-2007, 01:18 AM
I believe the one you chose will work, but I do agree with the crop Don did, why? because the negative space around the child is a better balance and more interesting shape and adds energy to the comp. Notice the shape of the lower right corner negative space in each one ...just my 2 cents
pulling up a chair...although I should be sitting in mine finishing my own!
Colleen

soap
05-02-2007, 03:38 AM
Thanks all, and thanks Don for the crop.
I got started on a piece of Colourfix paper and I'll see where I'll crop it once its done or during the process....
I might start again as this Colourfix paper doesn't suit me at all - I cannot seem to layer much with the softer pastels as the tooth fills up so quickly! I only got it out since I am out of La Carte....grumble....

I'll keep you posted (another thread I suppose)
thanks!!

*Marina*
05-02-2007, 04:38 AM
Eager to see the progress on this. Great picture and composition.