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Nickel
02-03-2007, 11:42 AM
Hi and welcome to the Classical Forum.
Please post your classical style work in any media
that you are currently working on or have just finished!

Everyone is welcome to post in this thread - Newbies and experts. Contemporary, traditional and romantic styles are all welcome.

For the most part, this is a “show and tell” thread, if you would like more detailed help or critiques, please start a thread in the main classical forum.

We look forward to seeing your work...

Sincerely Nickel

Nickel
02-03-2007, 11:44 AM
I've started on Paddy's Valentine.
Will see if I can get a photo
later.

Nickel

Jolanta
02-04-2007, 11:36 AM
I am working on the copy of "Bacchante" by William Bouguereau which is done in oils. I am working in pastels on canvas gessoed in grey. I find it very helpful starting with tinted support. This is what I have so far.
The first image is the ref. second is my poor copy
Jolanta

rosebard
02-04-2007, 01:51 PM
Hi Nickel! Wow one year has passed already?? Valentine next month. Cool. :D Looking forward to see what you working on. :)

Hi Jolanta how you!!! It looks like a poor reference pic. I found a high resolution in ARC (http://www.artrenewal.org/images/artists/b/Bouguereau_William/Mailice.jpg). But still the face there is kind of dark. A beautifull subject. Always cool to see what you up to. :)

I worked a bit more on my friend portrait this weekend!!!

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/6070/p20400232mq9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Anita Murphy
02-05-2007, 12:51 AM
Super job Jolanta!

Rose - this is looking fabulous!

Jolanta
02-05-2007, 10:28 AM
Thanks Anita:D
Rose - thank you. This is a beautiful portrait you are working on. It looks so natural. You are getting really good:thumbsup: I am doing so many different things and experiments I will never be consistent artist hehehe!:D :lol: :eek:
Jolanta

Nickel
02-07-2007, 10:35 AM
Jolanta very nice skin tones! Did this take a long time?
Looks really good!

Hi Rose, your friend's portrait is beautiful!

Hi Anita, how are your chair studies?

I wiped my canvas back down on Paddy. Have
to restart my drawing was wrong and his head
looked too big for his body.

It helps to have a good reference. I don't think
mine is too good.

Nickel

Jolanta
02-07-2007, 10:55 AM
Thank you Nickel. I don't know much about oils and they give me a headache:eek: I love old masters work and want to learn from them. I came up with the idea to use different medium to make it look as close as I can to the look of oils. I did hands of Mona Lisa in colored pencils and they really look like oils. This one is in pastels on grey gessoed board. I love the way pastels go on gesso and grey color under helps a lot to keep pastels thin and unify the whole drawing. I finished it and I love it. I have to take a photo with my regular camera, develop and then I can show it to you. It didn't take long at all. About good ref. The image of my ref.here is poor because I had to resize it to upload it. I found good reproduction and printed it on glossy photo paper. It makes a big difference - colors are much better and contrast on photo paper to print ref.
Jolanta

Nickel
02-07-2007, 08:42 PM
Thanks Jolanta, it is always good to learn other ideas.
Looking forward to see your photo when you get it ready.
Thanks again for the information on how to make a good reproduction.
Nickel

Anita Murphy
02-07-2007, 11:20 PM
Nickel - my chairs move along slowly. Started working in pastels which are SO hard! My tendency is to end up with mud instead of sparkling colours!

Jolanta
02-08-2007, 01:02 AM
Anita - try to work with pastels in strokes instead of blending and use complementary colors to avoid the mud. You can make colors sing with strokes - your eye will blend them for you.
Jolanta

Anita Murphy
02-08-2007, 07:37 AM
Jolanta - I am working in a particular way under a mentor and only using strokes - idea is definitely to have singing colours. My problem is learning which colours I want and not ending up using every pastel in the box and having the paper so clogged with pastel that putting on another layer has the effect of blending them. I'm getting the hang of it slowly but its a long hard battle!

Jolanta
02-08-2007, 11:31 AM
This is how I learned about colors. Started with limited palette just few.
Cool colors (greens, blues) look the best next to warm (reds,yellows).
Warm on top of cool and vice versa. I use color wheel to find complements and they always work. Using different shades of one color looks great too.
Maybe you are trying too much at once? Just kidding. I know you will get it.
Can you show us what you are doing?
Jolanta

rosebard
02-09-2007, 11:33 AM
Cida is finished. :)

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9999/p2090005yx9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

rosebard
02-09-2007, 12:53 PM
A better pic:

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3884/p2090002qq8.jpg

Thanks for looking and commenting. :)

Nickel
02-10-2007, 11:58 AM
She looks really pretty Barb! I think you did good! :)

Nickel
02-10-2007, 03:39 PM
Sorry I meant Rose.

I'm always mixing up the B's.

saintlukesguild
02-10-2007, 04:53 PM
This is very very telling of your steady artistic growth, Bard. You get better and better with your every attempt. Something I see for your consideration, and not too late either... the light narrows the forehead overmuch, or else the face is too fat. Probably both. You have consistent light coming from 9 or 11 o'clock. The hair hanging our left should cast just a liiiiiiitle more shadow on the cheek, to trim the volume some. This would be equalized by similar trim shadow on our right. Once you have the cheeks less fat, you can guage how much, if any, the light on her forehead needs to expand our left, mostly. Maybe not at all. Most likely just a liiiitle bit.

The eyes are marvelous. Just enough departure from symentry to create an inner sparkle of fun and other admirable personality traits we are quick to imagine.

tyree
02-10-2007, 11:14 PM
rose....such a stunning portrait...tyree

rosebard
02-11-2007, 01:45 PM
Thanks Nickel and Susan! :) Np darling about barb and bard mixing up! :D :heart:

This is very very telling of your steady artistic growth, Bard. You get better and better with your every attempt. Something I see for your consideration, and not too late either... the light narrows the forehead overmuch, or else the face is too fat. Probably both. You have consistent light coming from 9 or 11 o'clock. The hair hanging our left should cast just a liiiiiiitle more shadow on the cheek, to trim the volume some. This would be equalized by similar trim shadow on our right. Once you have the cheeks less fat, you can guage how much, if any, the light on her forehead needs to expand our left, mostly. Maybe not at all. Most likely just a liiiitle bit.

The eyes are marvelous. Just enough departure from symentry to create an inner sparkle of fun and other admirable personality traits we are quick to imagine.

Thanks. I see what you mean about the forehead. I will look over those points again and fix. :) I am going to work on underpaintings again this year but my problem is always when I go over then with color. This will be a new year of exercising things I have learnt through the last couple of years and I hope I can make a new step forward by the end of the year. Your words are always so encoraging and helpful. Regards dear Luke. :)

Lets see! :)

osyang
02-11-2007, 06:31 PM
Hi Rose,
I cannot judge the likeness, but I think your grisaille is very good, lighting is consistent, the expression is natural and I like your edges. I should be able to recognize her anytime if I met her on the street! :)
Greetings,

Alex Sunder
02-11-2007, 06:48 PM
I´ve been posting in WC since december, almost every day i do. I didnt notice the Classical Art area, i will began to come back more times.

Rose, what a lovelly grisaille your Cida´s portrait. (BTW, thats my Moms name)

Jaw Drops!:eek:

I wish you could have done a WIP of that, so i could understand better your painting process. What did you used for your medium on this one? And how about the colors?

Cant wait to see the glazings!

Alex

rosebard
02-11-2007, 09:18 PM
Thanks Osmar. Cida came by for a cup of coffee today and was delighted with it. The likeness is quite right. But the forehead does need adjustment and I need to check what Luke pointed out.

Welcome to CA Alex! There isnt much to say about it. I started with a canvas tonned with mars black and odorless solvent. Then sketched roughly with charchoal to get placement of features. I always have problem with front view pose slighted turned to one side. It took me four layers to get it right. I started with raw umber and ivory tinted with white. I was planning to overpaint it with color but Cida loves monocromatic artwork and asked me just to make it look more towards black. It was greenish grey. I just removed the raw umber and continue to build form. Nothing special. I have used tiny bit of turp and stand oil at time. Really you dont want to see the ugly stages. :D But thanks for your kind comment. I plan to start an underpainting study to overpaint in color this week.

Hope you all have a great week drawing and painting!!!

WV.Artistry
02-12-2007, 12:33 PM
This is very very telling of your steady artistic growth, Bard. You get better and better with your every attempt.

I'll second that .. it's been a pleasure watching your skill develop, Rose.

KeithC
02-13-2007, 08:30 AM
Just started this oil on canvas painting (70cm x 100cm) of Bouguereau's 'Nymphes & Satyre' (x-posted in Painting from the Masters Forum as WIP).
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2007/80190-80190-ver1_sml.jpg
Keith

rosebard
02-15-2007, 09:45 AM
Thanks Richard! :)

HI Keith. Nice values. YOu off to a great start! Please keep us updated. :)

Jolanta
02-15-2007, 02:34 PM
I did finish my old master copy.
Here it is Bacchante by William Bouguereau. I did it freehand and didn't really go for exact likeness of the face. I learned a lot about skin tones, background and enjoyed it truly.:D
First is the ref. second my copy.
My scanner is not showing all the colors I have in the real thing - sorry
Jolanta

WV.Artistry
02-15-2007, 07:27 PM
8"x10"

oil sketch . .

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c11/r601020/Project%20200701/200702002.jpg

rosebard
02-15-2007, 08:08 PM
Hi Jolanta exquisite! It is great when we have this feeling of learning a lot from a piece! Thanks so much for posting it here. I always enjoy your drawings!

Hi Rich dear! Good to see your work again. Cool oil sketch! :)

I am finally going to have the time to work on the studio tomorrow!!! :)

WV.Artistry
02-17-2007, 01:47 AM
8"x10" oil sketch

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c11/r601020/Project%20200701/200702020.jpg

ValorieCox
02-17-2007, 12:43 PM
I´ve been posting in WC since december, almost every day i do. I didnt notice the Classical Art area, i will began to come back more times.

Alex, I'm glad you've joined us! I hope you'll add the Classic Arts forum to your WC! subcriptions (see 'forum tools' > 'subscribe to this forum') and drop in each day!

Wonderful Jolanta, you did a very nice job, I especially like your treatment of the folds in the fabric.

Richard, I'm loving these oil sketches, especially the citrus on the board--beautiful. I hope you'll continue to share them here!

Val

WV.Artistry
02-17-2007, 12:54 PM
Welcome to CA Alex! . .

Welcome Alex.

Rose.

Did you help Alex understand the difference in linseed oil, stand oil, etc? And if there is name differences in Brazil, can you post the interpretations? I'm curious . . and of course, if I visit your country, I'll need help shopping too :)

I hope you'll share some w/i/p's for your upcoming exhibit.

rosebard
02-17-2007, 02:43 PM
Welcome Alex.

Rose.

Did you help Alex understand the difference in linseed oil, stand oil, etc? And if there is name differences in Brazil, can you post the interpretations? I'm curious . . and of course, if I visit your country, I'll need help shopping too :)

I hope you'll share some w/i/p's for your upcoming exhibit.

Yep I did help Alex on that. We do have linseed oil (oleo de Linhaça), stand oil (oleo linhaça polimerizado) and refined linseed ( oleo linhaça refinado) oil in national brand which doesn't cost a lot. There are couple of places that have good stuff from abroad to buy, but much more expensive.

I cant wait for you to come to Brazil. Any date in mind?

I have couple of big projects to start but the new part time job isnt giving me much time to get started. :)

WV.Artistry
02-17-2007, 11:35 PM
Went to open studio today. Instead of sketching, I worked with clay . . not too happy with
this stuff, it droops and dries. But I have one ton of it. Sooo . .

Sculpture #5
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c11/r601020/Sculpture/5.jpg

This is my first attempt at working with a model and sculpture. My previous attempts have been invented anatomy.

Obviously . . no criticism necessary :)

Jolanta
02-17-2007, 11:59 PM
Hahaha! I like it:thumbsup: It is a sculpture with attitude:thumbsup: :clap:
Jolanta

ValorieCox
02-18-2007, 01:54 AM
I don't know Richard, I think it shows a lot of character and nice balance, with very little detail--just the essence. I think it's important and worth noting that you created and worked in the studio today, and maybe inspired a reader to two in the process. Thanks for sharing! Val

Monikalisa
02-18-2007, 11:02 AM
Cida is finished. :)

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9999/p2090005yx9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Hello Rose, and all:wave:
it´s beautifull, you captured her nicely laughing warm expression very well.

Nickel
02-18-2007, 11:11 AM
Hi Lisa welcome! :wave:

Nickel
02-18-2007, 11:16 AM
A study for our Valentine Challenge

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2007/39040-42.jpg
My
Paddy's Valentine

after

John George Brown
1885

Artwork at the Athenaeum
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=17169

Nickel
02-18-2007, 11:23 AM
Keith I saw your updated painting in the oil forum!
How about posting it here too!
It looks really good!
Nickel

danielmap
02-18-2007, 12:31 PM
Rose,
Use ivory black, the black mars is cold, ivory is hot and the greys more rich, sorry for my english!!!The indication is not my, from Sheppard!!!!

see you!

rosebard
02-18-2007, 12:44 PM
Nice familiar faces around!!!!

Hi Lisa welcome to Classical Art Forum. Good to see you my dear sweet friend!

Daniel are you my dear friend from Brazil? I just tonned the canvas with mars black and after I used ivory to paint the portrait. If that is you, why dont you give us all the pleasure of seeing that beautiful painting of Daphne and the cupid?

Nickel how sweet! Great job on your painting, I love it. :)

Rich, I have only tried clay for pottery. I have been waiting to get sometime free to try it for modeling heads. Just to feel how it is. Sculpture must be awesome. I love the gesture in your sculpture.

WV.Artistry
02-18-2007, 05:29 PM
:wave:


:wave:

Nickel
02-18-2007, 07:50 PM
Thanks Rose :)
Gave him to my sweetheart for Valentine.
He loved it!

I've started on the Feb challenge this weekend.

I read you have a show you are working on.
Hope you'll share some of the pieces here.

Hi Daniel, welcome :)

ValorieCox
02-18-2007, 09:02 PM
Nickel, wonderful valentine. I'm sure he loved it. That is just the sweetest little painting.

Hello Daniel, welcome! :wave: I hope you have something to show us, rosebard has peaked my interest. :)

Richard, did you work on something special today?

Val

rosebard
02-18-2007, 10:04 PM
Thanks Rose :)
Gave him to my sweetheart for Valentine.
He loved it!

I've started on the Feb challenge this weekend.

I read you have a show you are working on.
Hope you'll share some of the pieces here.

Hi Daniel, welcome :)

You have being leading some cool projects Nickel. I wish I have had more time to participate in them in the past year. What is Feb project about? The exhibition will be about portraits, so I need to get busy and try to get few of them ready by October. Plenty of time I think. I have couple of ideias ready but no time yet to start. I will show them for sure once I start. ;)

WV.Artistry
02-19-2007, 12:00 AM
Richard, did you work on something special today?
Val

Looked up a definition . .


Maquette
In sculpture, a small model in wax or clay, made as a preliminary sketch, presented to a client for his approval of the proposed work, or entered in a competition for a prize or scholarship. The Italian equivalent of the term is bozzetto, meaning small sketch.


Pretty cool huh? I've learned to sketch in sculpture.

:)

WV.Artistry
02-19-2007, 03:00 AM
8"x10" Oil sketch

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c11/r601020/Project%20200701/200702042.jpg

ValorieCox
02-19-2007, 12:04 PM
Sketching in sculpture, I love that! Fun to learn new terms too!
This is a beautiful oil sketch of the still life, thank you for sharing it Richard! I sure enjoy the simplity of line and color, which communicates so much.

Question for the group--Do you all want these 'In the Studio' threads to be weekly or monthly? Val

WV.Artistry
02-19-2007, 05:42 PM
. . weekly or monthly

Monthly

rosebard
02-19-2007, 08:34 PM
Monthly

Monthly is cool to me. :thumbsup:

One of my favorite work from Lisa. She painted it from life and it reminds me so much of Chardin, one of my favorite artists from the past.

Sorry Lisa I couldnt resist share it here. I got it from your website! She also posted it at Wetcanvas in Still life Forum (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=403095).


http://www.monikalisa.de/bilder/Stilleben/IMG_m0074_568x700.jpg

EXample of Chardin (http://www.artcyclopedia.com/artists/chardin_jean-baptiste-simeon.html)still life

http://www.lyons.co.uk/paintings9/Large/Chardin_goblet.jpg

Anita Murphy
02-19-2007, 09:52 PM
Great to see all this work in here. I'm working on a portrait at the moment - slight sidebar from what I should be working on! Will post when its daylight and I can get a decent photo.

Have a great day everyone!

ValorieCox
02-19-2007, 10:21 PM
Monthly sounds perfect, thank you both! Please know that anyone is welcome to start the monthly 'studio' or 'chat' thread at the beginning of each month.

Rose, Lisa's painting is amazing, I hope you can ask her to cross-post some of her works in the Classical forum, when appropriate, when she posts in Still Lifes or Oils. I'm sure the others would love to see her work regularily.

Anita, We'll look forward to seeing the portait you're working on. :)

WV.Artistry
02-20-2007, 01:07 AM
8"x10" oil sketch

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c11/r601020/Project%20200701/200702047.jpg

WV.Artistry
02-20-2007, 01:10 AM
. . Chardin, one of my favorite artists from the past.


He's really good to study.

gaensanger
02-20-2007, 01:53 PM
I am working on this right now, the size is 60 x 60 cm. It's done in oil. I am thinking about, how much I have to do to finish. I never know this, I just stop.

What do you think about the painting?

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Feb-2007/94183-Bild_06.JPG

WV.Artistry
02-20-2007, 03:54 PM
What do you think about the painting?

What do I think? I think I'll go outside now and bury my paint brushes :)

For the suggestion box : hand needs a bit of work, but not much, maybe check reference for wrist if there's missing definitions, tweak thumb, and then re-look. Might put more red in the ear and ignore reference to make it believable . . ears have a lot of visible blood in them like noses.

Drapery is fabulous, and I love the background capture. Are you a plein air painter? I'd be interested in the background palette if you don't mind sharing it.

Monikalisa
02-20-2007, 06:06 PM
I am working on this right now, the size is 60 x 60 cm. It's done in oil. I am thinking about, how much I have to do to finish. I never know this, I just stop.

What do you think about the painting?

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Feb-2007/94183-Bild_06.JPG

"It´s great!" I think about it. I love the light on her face and its warm color.Perhaps the whites of her eyes are a bit too white?
Awesome work!

Monikalisa
02-20-2007, 06:16 PM
One of my favorite work from Lisa. She painted it from life and it reminds me so much of Chardin, one of my favorite artists from the past.

Sorry Lisa I couldnt resist share it here. I got it from your website! She also posted it at Wetcanvas in Still life Forum (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=403095).


http://www.monikalisa.de/bilder/Stilleben/IMG_m0074_568x700.jpg

EXample of Chardin (http://www.artcyclopedia.com/artists/chardin_jean-baptiste-simeon.html)still life

http://www.lyons.co.uk/paintings9/Large/Chardin_goblet.jpg

Oh! Chardin? Thanks ... Rose, very complimentary! But although I have exactly this still life in my oldmaster still life archiv, I didn´t think at all of it whilst painting "Espresso".


Richard,
slowly but surely I could recognize your style, your are so productive, wow!

Monikalisa
02-20-2007, 06:19 PM
Monthly sounds perfect, thank you both! Please know that anyone is welcome to start the monthly 'studio' or 'chat' thread at the beginning of each month.

Rose, Lisa's painting is amazing, I hope you can ask her to cross-post some of her works in the Classical forum, when appropriate, when she posts in Still Lifes or Oils. I'm sure the others would love to see her work regularily.

Of course with pleasure, thanks! :)

ValorieCox
02-20-2007, 06:23 PM
Of course with pleasure, thanks! :)

Yay! Lisa's here! :D

gaensanger, wonderful, thank you for sharing this beautiful painting.

Richard, I'm loving these quick oil sketches you are doing, so much depth and richness! Val

WV.Artistry
02-21-2007, 02:26 AM
Richard, I'm loving these quick oil sketches you are doing, so much depth and richness! Val

Well . . if I ever do something worth looking at, there's always credit to give where it's due, because you see further when standing on the shoulders of giants.

Thanks.

gaensanger
02-21-2007, 04:09 AM
Drapery is fabulous, and I love the background capture. Are you a plein air painter? I'd be interested in the background palette if you don't mind sharing it.

Hello "iii", Here's the palette for the Background. I used burnt siena, white and terre verde. I painted on a very dark background (black & green). Hope that's the information for you! :cool:

Monikalisa
02-21-2007, 07:20 PM
I have posted some other still lives, you can look at here:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5432802&postcount=1

They are from ref pics and done in autumn 2006.

WV.Artistry
02-22-2007, 03:36 AM
I'll be in Washington, DC end of May . . if anybody has any favorites at the museum(s) there, let me know, and I'll try to get some pics, if allowed.

WV.Artistry
02-22-2007, 11:43 PM
8"x10" oil sketch

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c11/r601020/Project%20200701/200702053.jpg

bjs0704
02-23-2007, 11:27 AM
Hi Everybody!

I just stopped by to let all of you know that I'm doing alright. I've been busy with teaching and packing up for my move to Chicago. :wave:

It's really great to see all of the new faces in the studio and the gorgeous work! :clap: :clap: :clap:

Barb Solomon:cat:

ValorieCox
02-23-2007, 04:29 PM
Hi Barb, great to see you! :)

Richard, this last painting is wonderful, thank you for sharing these delightful sketches, they are very inspiring. Have a great time in Wash DC!

Val

Anita Murphy
02-28-2007, 07:40 AM
Going to stick this in here before we move onto the new thread for next month! :lol:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2007/58769-image4809tf7.jpg

Nickel
02-28-2007, 11:10 AM
Anita, this is really AWESOME! No fair posting this on the last day.
Please, please add him again for March.
Very powerful!

:) Nickel

Anita Murphy
02-28-2007, 12:02 PM
:evil: :lol: :evil: :lol:

saintlukesguild
02-28-2007, 12:29 PM
Who is he, Anita? Don't be shy...

Anita Murphy
02-28-2007, 12:42 PM
Luke - just a friend! Young enough to be my son ..... now there is a sobering thought!

WV.Artistry
02-28-2007, 01:42 PM
Anita . . when you put your mind to a drawing, it's just amazing what you can do. Unfortunately, the appropriately expletives to commend and compliment you, only print in asterisks. So . . well done!

Mostly, I've been walking about the earth to and fro . . looking for something to paint. And along this quest for the holy platypus, I've concluded that I have way too much fun and enjoy what I'm doing to ever be considered an artist :)

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c11/r601020/Photojournal%20200702b/200702256ulc.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c11/r601020/Photojournal%20200702b/200702087ul.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c11/r601020/Photojournal%20200702b/200702195ul.jpg

WV.Artistry
02-28-2007, 01:54 PM
I'll be in Sante Fe next month (equinox). . if anybody has any favorites at the museum(s) or gallery(s) there, let me know, and I'll try to get some pics, if allowed.

rosebard
02-28-2007, 02:20 PM
I am glad to visit in the last day so I dont miss this stunning work Anita!!! :clap:

Great pics Rich! Have fun in Santa Fe! :) And bring us tons of pics. :)


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2007/58769-image4809tf7.jpg