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06-27-2006, 10:07 AM
:wave: here is my new project. To be continued... what do u think about it?

06-27-2006, 10:33 AM
I think this is going to be fantastic!


06-27-2006, 10:50 AM
Very nice start. Please post a closeup or two if you can so we can appreciate your fine details. -Rob

06-27-2006, 11:17 AM
Beautiful soft colors on the cloth... shiny black hair.... beautiful!

Waiting (patiently) for an update!


06-27-2006, 11:32 AM
This is beautiful...are you using a reference photo?

06-27-2006, 12:13 PM
Such a gorgeous painting!
WOW-I can't wait for the update!

06-27-2006, 04:54 PM
Wow, this is beautiful so far. What size paper is it and what kind of paper are you using? Looking forward to the updates!


06-27-2006, 06:37 PM
Lovely so far! Very delicate. Which paper and pencils are you using?

06-28-2006, 12:13 AM
Very pretty! Love all the detail so far, a close up would be nice :D

06-28-2006, 03:17 AM
Really great, can't wait to see more.

06-28-2006, 05:07 AM


06-28-2006, 07:33 AM
Very beautiful!:) Will be watching for an update.

06-28-2006, 08:04 AM
Looking absolutely stunning! Can't wait to see more! :)

06-28-2006, 09:43 AM
The intricacies in her kimono and head piece are just stunning!! You are obviously taken with the eastern influence and do gorgeous work!

This piece has special appeal to me since I was born in Japan and even tho we were only there for a short time after my birth, something inside whispers to me whenever oriental subjects arise. There's a wonderous enjoyment from seeing your work since it sparks this whisper!!

Thank you so much for sharing your work! I'm extremely anxious to see the progress of this!!

06-28-2006, 06:28 PM
This is beautiful. I too am fascinated with the Geisha's bright colors and intricacies of the fabric. I am looking forward to seeing the progress.:thumbsup:

06-29-2006, 07:55 AM
:clap: Fantastic!!! 've just started to dabble in color pencil. I've done many drawings in charcohl and pencil, but not colored.

I know the picture is not done...but I like the layout just as it is. Maybe a hint ..very soft fine outline of a hint.. on the umbrella in her hand and how it opens behind her. Enough to suggest, but not over power.
Like I said..I like it right now.
Keep it up!:wave:

07-05-2006, 05:04 AM

07-06-2006, 06:48 AM
My Oh My, How lovely is this!! I see you work in blocks too. How long do you work at a setting? May I ask what brand of pencils are you using? Stunning work!! Azure

07-06-2006, 08:29 AM
This is looking very good. :thumbsup: Wanda

07-06-2006, 08:39 AM
Love it! It's really beautiful. :)

07-06-2006, 08:30 PM
Wow...this is REALLY stunning. It's almost like a too suspenseful novel: it's so beautiful that I can't wait to see how it turns out!:clap:

07-07-2006, 02:31 AM

07-08-2006, 01:39 PM

07-09-2006, 12:39 AM
I can't wait to see how you develop the patterns in the kimono. I'm wondering, too, how much time that will take! It's certainly a worthwhile and ambitious project. I hope that you provide us with updates soon!

07-09-2006, 04:57 AM
:wave: yes. I'm sure its an ambitious project and its one of the reason i thought it was a nice challenge i could rase up. The final result will be gorgeous, i think so. I wanted to make it for my japanese girlfriend, she's appreciating a lot untill now :) .
Just a question... some people around think the two hands are too different and sound like a default. I don't think so, beause it comes from the original picture. Your opinion would be interesting for me.
I keep on posting, do not worry its my pleasure. hang on !:)

07-09-2006, 01:28 PM
Stunning is a good word! The fabrics are just wonderful.

The hands are very different. The one bunching the fabric is large enough to be
masculine. Take for comparison the little finger of the hand holding the fan (?), which might be too delicate and tiny for the hand its on, and then compare it to the index finger of the lower hand. Huge difference. However, I did not notice the lower hand and how much larger it is, until I read your post mentioning it. I have been far too caught up in the fabric and face to be bothered by it!

I keep checking in for more. Its beautiful.


07-10-2006, 06:32 AM
ok thank u, i will see to improve this part :wave:

07-10-2006, 06:34 AM
thx for replies, i have just corrected the upper hand and it should match the other one. Yes there will be a fan right behind... to be continued ;)

07-10-2006, 07:16 AM
This is just beautiful. I can hardly wait to see the kimono develop. I am really looking forward to watching her develop. Thanks for sharing this wonderful piece with us.

07-12-2006, 02:18 AM
i'm about to start the background now. :wave:

07-13-2006, 05:19 AM

07-13-2006, 09:31 AM
Just beautiful!

07-13-2006, 11:16 AM
This is really wonderful. On one hand, it's encouraging to see what can be done with this medium, but on the other hand, something like this sets a standard so high that I feel like I could never achieve it. Oh well. :rolleyes: That won't stop me from admiring those who CAN do it. :)


07-13-2006, 11:39 AM
ok now how did I miss this!:eek:

awesome stuff:clap: what have u planned for the back ground?

07-14-2006, 08:07 AM

07-14-2006, 04:18 PM
This is stunningly beautiful. The fabric is gorgeous.

Lovely work, looking forward to seeing more! :)

07-15-2006, 03:59 AM

07-16-2006, 05:29 AM

07-16-2006, 08:39 AM
The parasol magically appears. :) Beautiful work!

07-16-2006, 03:27 PM
:clap: Beautiful work!! You have shown colored pencil work to me at a new level and have given me something more to aspire to!!!


07-18-2006, 02:48 AM

07-20-2006, 10:25 AM
This is so beautiful, I love the way it is coming along and the detail is amazing. Cant wait to see more.

07-20-2006, 12:23 PM
Just stunning work! I can just see that parasol framing her face.


07-20-2006, 01:49 PM

07-20-2006, 03:17 PM
Just beautiful, I am not sure how long you have been drawing but the standard (quality) of your work really is one of the highest I have seen on Wetcanvas :)

07-20-2006, 04:59 PM
Absolutely gorgeous!:clap: :clap: :clap:

07-20-2006, 06:17 PM
Just wanted you to know that I rated your thread. This is just outstanding. Midge

07-22-2006, 07:27 AM
OMG, this is INCREDIBLE! I only wish I could do something like this. Thank you for sharing with us mere mortals!:eek:

:clap: :clap: :clap:

Will be looking for more of your work.


frieda L
07-22-2006, 06:29 PM
c'est magnifique!!!

07-22-2006, 09:01 PM
This is beautiful. I love how she is coming to life on the paper.

07-23-2006, 11:26 PM
Amazing, amazing, amazing.

07-24-2006, 02:09 AM

07-31-2006, 02:13 AM

07-31-2006, 03:16 AM
oh I've been watching this one for a while and it is great. You've done a great job on it. want to see more geishas :D

Greetings Vany

08-01-2006, 03:04 AM

08-01-2006, 09:36 PM
Wow, I hope to have as much success with the CP's as you. It is absolutely beautiful.

08-01-2006, 10:01 PM
Absolutely amazing, you have a real gift.

08-02-2006, 02:18 AM

08-02-2006, 11:00 AM
Just gorgeous!

08-02-2006, 12:15 PM
hi and sorry not to have replied earlier about my tools. I like using my 72cps box from LYRA (german brand) and combine them to some retail Prismacolor cps i found from ebay. Different cps materials mixed, can bring a pretty nice result.
Wish you enjoying a lot my following projects. thx

08-06-2006, 05:36 AM

08-06-2006, 04:44 PM
WOW! Truly amazing detail!

08-07-2006, 06:25 AM

08-07-2006, 09:10 AM
This is stunning!

08-09-2006, 02:14 AM

08-09-2006, 09:44 AM
Fascinating - I bet you are putting in more time on the parasol than you did on the rest of it. This still blows me away. :)


frieda L
08-09-2006, 10:24 AM
you are getting closer to the finish,,,

08-10-2006, 02:16 AM
thanx a lot to all. Yes, it takes more times to get along the parasol than the geisha herself. But finaly i haven't been closer to the end than today :)
The final result won't be bad, i think.
Maybe i have to think about the following idea during my spare time in JP next week :p
thx again... and stay tuned

08-10-2006, 03:30 AM
Just wanted to let you know that i am still watching, awed and stunned! This one is so delicate and beautiful. I admire your patience!


08-11-2006, 08:10 AM
Still watching, this is a fabulous piece!:)

08-12-2006, 04:33 AM

08-12-2006, 08:04 AM
I've been quietly watching. This is stunning & beautiful.

Just a small suggestion, though... You may want to check how the edge of the umbrella is going to meet behind her. I hope you don't mind, but I pulled your last update into photoshop to show you what I mean...


Looking forward to the next update!

08-12-2006, 10:37 AM
:) thx tess. I didn't do that but i can see i'm not as wrong as i thought. Just want to precise that i don't use a scanner or whatever, to preprint previously my drawing. I just use the sight (make sense?) to be the closest to the original one. I don't use measurements at all (hope my english is handlable). Thx for support.

Rosa Weitzel
08-13-2006, 10:42 AM
:wave: Very, very nice. A pleasure to watch the drawing unfold. You do beautiful work. I will keep checking back to see the finish.


08-14-2006, 01:47 AM
This is absolutly stuning!!!!!

08-14-2006, 10:10 AM
I am still here, watching this breathlessly. You are building up to a great climax. Thank you for sharing this piece with us.

08-14-2006, 07:55 PM
This is one gorgeous piece. If it's small, it will be a gem framed. If it's large, it will just blow people away in a show. Love it!

08-15-2006, 08:00 AM
hope my english is handlable

You're doing well with it!

Looking forward to your next update!


08-15-2006, 11:07 AM

This is an incredible piece. The parasol acts like a frame around her. But I also like the geisha without the parasol. She had the look of a "china" doll, especially on the white background. It might make a good second in the series piece. Very, Very nice.


08-16-2006, 11:11 AM
I haven't posted before, but I have been mesmerized by the work you are doing on this!!! :clap: Sorry to come in so late...

I was reading Tess' post about the parasol. Good point. However, according to the angled handle resting on her shoulder, the circumference would rather be an ellipse. Anyway... All that is needed is a convincing perspective!

09-07-2006, 07:52 AM

09-29-2006, 04:54 AM

09-29-2006, 06:46 AM
Oh wow, background still to go huh? This is wonderful!


09-29-2006, 08:18 AM
Stop! Stop! You're killing me. :wink2: It was perfect already!!

09-29-2006, 09:02 AM
This is just wonderful. You have taken us on a fantastic journey. But, as I can see, the ride is still ahead of us. The background. Phew! You set a tough standard to follow.

09-29-2006, 09:55 AM
As a big fan of the country and Japanese art I think this is one of the best works in CP I've ever seen!:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: Well done!:thumbsup:

09-29-2006, 10:13 AM
I think it is excellent, such delicacy.
Best wishes, Ken..

09-29-2006, 10:24 AM
This piece is stunning!!

Sorry, but the parasol just doesn't look right at the bottom (which would be right behind her). It doesn't seem angled enough to justify this offset. Since you seem to be aiming for realism this one small detail catches my eye.

Exquisite piece and the colors are so vivid!!

09-29-2006, 10:27 AM
This piece is stunning!!

Sorry, but the parasol just doesn't look right at the bottom (which would be right behind her). It doesn't seem angled enough to justify this offset. Since you seem to be aiming for realism this one small detail catches my eye.

Exquisite piece and the colors are so vivid!!

Yes, now that you point that out, I see it too. Dang! That's gonna bug me unless it's fixed.


10-01-2006, 05:53 AM
This piece is stunning!!

Sorry, but the parasol just doesn't look right at the bottom (which would be right behind her). It doesn't seem angled enough to justify this offset. Since you seem to be aiming for realism this one small detail catches my eye.

Exquisite piece and the colors are so vivid!!

yes i agree. But i couldn't catch back this detail so far, and i decided to move ahead for the remaining. I'm the first to be sorry about it but i can tell it passes through by having a look at it (on the paper i mean)
sorry again! i wanted to get closer the reality but its still tough work for me :) (hope my english is handlable)

10-01-2006, 09:31 PM
This is absolutely gorgeous work!!!! :clap: Wow! I can't believe I missed this thread until now.

BTW, what size and kind of paper is this?

10-02-2006, 02:33 AM
This is absolutely gorgeous work!!!! :clap: Wow! I can't believe I missed this thread until now.

BTW, what size and kind of paper is this?

hi, thx for comment. Size is A3 (don't know the american size) with 180g :wave:

10-12-2006, 11:13 AM

just to have a look on my continuing project... :wave:

10-13-2006, 10:36 AM

10-13-2006, 01:51 PM
This is so beautiful! I love the incredible detail! Great job! :clap::clap::clap:

10-13-2006, 05:48 PM
Looking absolutely stunning :)

10-13-2006, 06:20 PM
Just so beautiful, I never thouht such beautiful things could be done with colored pencils. Excuse my ignorance but it is now that I am just getting into art and everything is new to me. Congratulations on your geisha ,is is breathtaking,Lidia

10-14-2006, 01:23 PM

thx for all of your comments, its almost completed.

10-14-2006, 03:39 PM
Oh my gosh....:eek: you just have to keep going. This is amazing.
The detail is staggering but you are pulling it off beautifully.

10-15-2006, 12:30 PM
Can't wait to see more updates! :clap:

10-17-2006, 01:18 PM

10-17-2006, 07:57 PM
Wow. That about sums it up. Wow.

10-18-2006, 08:56 AM
This piece is exquisite but now you've added elements which totally competes and distracts from the geisha, which is the focal point.

10-18-2006, 09:12 AM
This piece is exquisite but now you've added elements which totally competes and distracts from the geisha, which is the focal point.

I must agree. I thought it was done with the completion of the parasol. It is the artist's prerogative to be selective about what is included and excluded, and just because something is in an original scene, it doesn't mean that it will make it better. It is a fantastic piece, and perhaps the additional content will add something in the end, but it already stood on it's own without it.


10-18-2006, 10:58 AM
I am afraid I agree...

It's been said that what every artist needs is someone beside, ready to hit her/him on the head and say: IT'S DONE!

One of the fascinating problems with CP is how good they are to render details, and many times we fall in love with them. Eventually we learn to plan and decide from the beginning what is assential and what is not.

You have done a fabulous job with the geisha, and I am curious to se how you wrap it up.

SPECIAL NOTE - Please take all these as the objective, constructive comments they are to share the benefit of our experience... :)

10-19-2006, 01:54 AM
I don't necessarily agree about the background. If it was left white, the face would have been pale and would not stand out. While her clothing and accessories are drop dead gorgeous, a missing face would not be good either.

I think that the background elements are putting the woman in time and place. I can't wait to see what shows up next!


10-19-2006, 06:20 AM
I also agree that the background detail above the wood is detracting from the stunning figure. The question is, what can be done at this point if it's determined that a mistake has been made? It seems unlikely that this area could be returned to white, so I would probably think about removing as much of the color as possible and covering with a solid, subdued color (deep olive, maybe, to pick up a bit of the color in the clothing?) This is a tough one. I'd be interested to know what other solutions people might come up with.

10-19-2006, 12:13 PM
We were not talking about BG colour Kathee, but details in the BG that are taking attention away from what is the main attraction of the piece, the figure. Especially when it has been rendered with so much skill and sensitivity...

Cindy's suggestions are excellent!

10-19-2006, 01:57 PM
I say wait until you see the entire picture. Once the background is complete the entire picture will come together. The artist is doing wonderfully.

Keep it coming, and don't let others discourage you. Many great artists did complete works, with lots of details.

10-19-2006, 02:34 PM

The dark shadows from background should bring up the geisha with parasol more on the front. Actualy the whole completed draw should match.

10-19-2006, 03:53 PM
Although I can see what others are saying about the background, I actually think it is great to see the overall picture in so much detail. She would have looked fine on a plain background, but I think she also looks fine put into this scene. To me she stands out because of two things: the contrast of the red parasol against the darker drabber background scene, and the softness and fineness of the geisha herself compared to the straight lines and hardness of the background.

11-01-2006, 09:36 AM
project completed... she's not so bad finaly :wave:



11-01-2006, 09:43 AM
Great detailed work, but I still can't get past the umbrella not being round (at the bottom / behind the geisha. :(


11-01-2006, 10:00 AM
Wow! This looks so profeesional. It has a very finished, smooth quality to it. :D

11-01-2006, 10:03 AM
I am stunned. This is so beautiful and detailed. Congratulations!

11-01-2006, 10:15 AM
You have done a superb job on this! :clap: :thumbsup:

At this point, what is left is to look at it objectively to learn for the next one. Are all those details necessary? In my opinion, the whole image would have gone into a higher level if the background was simplified, but a few of us have expressed our opinion already. It is all material to think about instead of romantizing art and accepting that "everything goes"... It is true that "Many great artists did complete works, with lots of details.", but they were successful in the art world when they had enough experience to know what to keep and what to discard, and not everybody has the ability to recognize that.

It is your work and YOUR learning journey. Enjoy it and be open to respected teachers' views. You will be the one to benefit from it.

From "Robert Genn Twice Weekly Letter":
Share the joy of your gift.
Seek honest evaluation from authoritative sources.
Understand that divergent opinions deserve study.
Find and nurture symbiotic friendships.
Build self-confidence through personal processes.
Keep a foot in the real world.

11-01-2006, 10:43 AM
I am just a novice and spend most of my time lurking but I think this is absolutely beautiful.

grumpydragon (Trish)

11-01-2006, 02:21 PM
Glad to see it finished, been following it almost since the beginning. (found it two days afterwards) It's an amazing piece, and I am a detail fanatic so I understand all the details in the background being in place. I'm still young too though, and have yet to determine when I want the extra details and when I do not. It's a difficult line that I keep trying to figure out.

The thing about the parasol... every time I look at it my brain tells me somethings off about it, but then I look at the whole thing and my brain says it's fine... just a slight distortion from the angle it's being held at. <Shrugs> It looks like it's being held directly behind her but it's not, it's resting on her shoulder, which would make it slightly oblong. The thing that tells my brain that it's not right is totally not the circular part... it's the right side of the parasol, the space between the spines. The red parts there are wider... there by telling my brain that the perspective is off, and that the right side is closer than the left is but the way it's being held should imply otherwise. All that being said it's entirely possible the reference photo was taken on a windy day and that the parasol is actually swaying a little bit and would take on distortions because of such. <Shrugs> Once again it's not entirely relevent.

In the end, the painting is amazing, truly something to be proud of and hopefully it'll be well appreciated for many, many years to come.

- Del

11-01-2006, 02:23 PM
Such gorgeous work. Well done.

11-01-2006, 05:41 PM
This is absolutely gorgeous. The initial impact is so much that I haven't looked for the things that other's are talking about. To me the parasol is the foil for the fantastic work on the geisha, so it fades into the background for me.

Well done, and I hope to see another of your pieces soon.