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dbjs
01-28-2007, 02:30 PM
A friend of mine asked me to do a tutorial on how I make silver on velour with pastels. I found this picture in the RIL and thought It would make a great velour drawing.
So here's the ref:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Jan-2007/70378-silver.jpg

And here's my first wip:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Jan-2007/70378-wip1lille.jpg

Here I've used a Derwent pencil 2B to make the sketch on my velour paper. After the sketch is made I start by taking a Mungyo 225 Madder Lake Deep red soft pastel to make the red lines in the fabric. After putting on a base layer I take my black pastel pencil and make the light shadow areas. After that I take a white pastel pencil and gently mark the highlight on the red fabric.
Tune in tomorrow or the day after for the next wip :)
Thanks for looking! :wave:

David Patterson
01-28-2007, 02:43 PM
That's about as far as I would get!:lol: That kind of detail drives me nuts now! :confused: This looks as if it's going to be a "Ponting" style painting, which will look very nice. Great start to your velour...in the infamous words of some Governor..."I'll be back"!

David

*Marina*
01-28-2007, 02:52 PM
Will be following this one. Looks as if you made a good start. It is indeed a photo of Dianna Ponting. There is even a thread about it. http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=291833

rasberry
01-28-2007, 04:32 PM
looking great!! your braver than me.. i would take one look at that and run the other way lol... i cant wait to see more :-)
Naomi

Piper Ballou
01-28-2007, 04:54 PM
this is going to be fun to watch....thanks for showing it as a WIP
piper

Merethe T
01-28-2007, 05:23 PM
Ah goodie, another WIP! :clap: I love the detailed comments as you go along,very interesting read....I've saved the same photo,it's in my "to do" file, lots of details and shadows, fun stuff...

Gonna sit down and have front-row seat for this, looking good.....! hmmmm,next update tomorrow....gee, gonna need some food then....popcorn, anyone....;)

Punky2
01-28-2007, 07:41 PM
This looks great.
I love WIPs!

Terri

JON805
01-28-2007, 07:45 PM
Looking forward to this WIP, thanks!

Trilby
01-28-2007, 10:49 PM
always appreciate a WPI, this promises to be a good one, popping up the pop corn.
TJ

dbjs
01-30-2007, 08:51 AM
Thanks to all of you! :D I'm very glad you like it so far.

Here's the next wip:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Jan-2007/70378-wip2lille.jpg

In this step I have used the same colors as the last ones, and the same tecknike. :)

binkie
01-30-2007, 06:11 PM
This is a great demo. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: Although I came a little late, I've managed to squeeze into the front row.

binkie

dbjs
01-31-2007, 06:51 AM
Thanks binkie! and welcome to the show :lol:

So for the next wip:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/31-Jan-2007/70378-wip3lille.jpg

This time i have made a little more of the facric. I'm still using only 3 colors. Namly the Mungyo red, pencil white and black.
I've sharpend my black really sharp and with it I gently start marking the reflections in the silver. I make sure that I've got every detail in there that I can se. The more details the better it will look at the end. I've also lightly marked the shadow area underneath the silver "thing" (what's that called?). So I'm off, back to the drawing board again. Thanks for looking :wave:

Paula Ford
01-31-2007, 01:16 PM
Looking forward to seeing the progress on it.

(Gee, it would have taken me 2 years to draw this.)

Paula

Netty
01-31-2007, 02:51 PM
Well I am squeezing in the front row next to Binkie, eyes glued!!!!

Always wanted to know how to paint silver and this is looking pretty good!!!
Thanks dbjs for putting this together

Annie-Maree:)

dbjs
02-01-2007, 03:49 PM
Paula and Annie Thank you both! I'm very glad you like it so far.

Here's the next wip:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Feb-2007/70378-wip4lille.jpg

On this wip I've continued to work on the fabric, same as the last time. I've also begun the silver handel. Now I use a light brown color and a crimson lake red, a black and white and a small amount of blue. When making silver I've found that putting in a blue tinge every now and then makes it look even more silver like. Taking a close look at the handel you can see that I've made black lines that follow the form, and that there's a brown streak in it to.
I'm thinking of making the apple in a green, yellow and red coloration. I think that will break the red colors a bit. Or they will be all to dominent. What do you think?
Thanks for looking. :wave:

Jo Castillo
02-01-2007, 11:28 PM
I like the red, on red, on red. But then I just like red! :) Sorry I can't be more help on that decission. Your work is beautiful and precise.
Jo

katsarecool
02-01-2007, 11:39 PM
This is beautiful so far! I am pulling up a seat as close as I can get. Truly awesome!

nvcricket
02-02-2007, 12:07 AM
I'm in here too. I hope everyone realizes this is on velour----velour is not a forgiving paper, and mistakes are hard to correct. Dorte has this mastered!
You have probably already started on the apple, if you're thinking green go for it! It would be interesting how you interpret the red reflection from the fabric onto the green apple...
I've said my piece now to sit back and watch the rest of the show!

Thanks!!
Carol

dbjs
02-02-2007, 01:09 AM
Jo, Nancy and Carol thank you very much for looking and giving your oppinions.
Carol, I haven't started the appel yet, That's what I'm making last. :) If I don't I'll proberly smudge it out as I work on the other parts of the drawing :lol:
hm...yeah It's going to be very interesting to make that apple. hehe ^^ I hope I don't ruin everything!!

Alecto
02-02-2007, 12:12 PM
My personal preference is for minimalist color, so were it my drawing I'd go with a red apple, but I'm kind of excited about the possibility of you sticking a little yellow/green in there. Hmmm, that didn't help, did it? :rolleyes:

BTW, I think that silver piece is called a tureen.

NancyPH
02-03-2007, 01:32 AM
Hey Dorte! This is looking really good. I can't wait to start on mine too!! Thank you so much for doing this. It's cool too that we have the same pastels, so I can follow right alone. However, I'm going to be using suede board instead of velour. I love suede and it's worked beautifully for my cp's. Thought I'd give pastels a try on it too.

Hmmm ...... green apple or red apple ....... ??? I don't know which would look better, but the complimentary colors would be interesting. The only thing that concerns me is that a green apple may draw too much attention to the apple. Then again, I guess it all depends on which item you want to be the center of attention - the silver or the apple? Maybe you should play with it in paint shop pro or photoshop to see what it would look like before you actually do it.

Anyway, you're doing terrific on this one, like you always manage to do. :D

dbjs
02-03-2007, 05:19 AM
Thanks Nancy and Alecto.
I've been playing with a photo of an apple I took and I've put it in the original ref. Here's the manip:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-Feb-2007/70378-silver2.jpg

I think this looks better than the original. I've also added som water drops on the apple, just to give it some "life".

Here's the original ref, so you can compare without going to the first post:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-Feb-2007/70378-silver.jpg

Alecto
02-03-2007, 10:52 AM
I also like the green-shouldered apple better. So much for my way of doing things. ;) Great work so far!

dbjs
02-03-2007, 05:32 PM
Thanks Alecto. :D

For those that are interested here's 2 links to youtube where I've put wip video's of the drawing. You can se how I work. I thought that you might want to se how I work. :)

video wip1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDfI_cyb69w

video wip2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AICLDnIFTAI

Thanks for looking. :D

PaulaT
02-04-2007, 08:16 AM
Dorte, That was absolutly fabulous!!!!!!! To be able to watch somebody work helps so much. I will be waiting for more and then hope you do an WIP of animal on youtube also. Thank-You for that Paula

dbjs
02-04-2007, 10:07 AM
PaulaT thanks!! :D I'm so glad you took the time to watch the video's!

Here's the next wip:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Feb-2007/70378-wip5lille.jpg

And this time I've made comments on the video's and tell you about why I do as I do. Thanks for looking:

Video wip3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x9ExDHNH2k
Video wip4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDABnjds6DI

*Marina*
02-04-2007, 12:15 PM
Dorte, looking at your photo's with the red and the green apple. It all depends where you want to focus on, the silver pot or the apple. Something to think about.

nvcricket
02-04-2007, 01:24 PM
Thanks for the videos. I love the music, but prefer to here your little tips, like continue to rotate the pencil as your are applying the color to be sure to keep the color pure in your strokes, and it keeps them sharp. Great tip!
Carol

dbjs
02-05-2007, 01:28 AM
Marina > Yes that is the question. But I'm set for the greenish apple. :)

Carol > Thanks for your response! I greatly apprisiate to hear you comment on the videos. I'll see if I can make another video where I comment.
The music is The Moody Blues btw. :)

bnoonan
02-05-2007, 11:59 AM
Dorte - this is really impressive and I'm going to be coming back and watching regularly to see what you've mastered. Thanks for taking the time to share this with us on the way!

Barb

Jo Castillo
02-05-2007, 04:05 PM
I'm enjoying this, videos, too.
Jo

dbjs
02-06-2007, 01:38 AM
Barb and Jo, thank you both. :D I'm glad to know you follow this.

Now for the next wip:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Feb-2007/70378-wip6lille.jpg

I've made a 3 part video of how I make the handel finished and start on the top part. You can see them here:

Part one;the lower handle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMOJ2x1KcVw
Part to; the upper handle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY0hsztjDTs
And part three; the start of the top:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH2Lr3tvNXc
On these 3 video's I am commenting, but sorry for the not very good sound. I can't figure out what that constant noise is! I must buy a microphone one of these days. :)

I've also made a video of how I sharpen my pencils and change blades in my knife:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w5WFEAcmoQ

Thanks for looking. :D

*Violet*
02-06-2007, 02:45 AM
just back from being away for a week and i've found this ... fabulous!! ... *finding a spot in the bleachers* ... will check out the youtube videos tomorrow as it's late now ... i'm looking forward to your next installment and seeing the videos !!

Holley
02-06-2007, 05:16 AM
Wow, this is looking great! You do beautiful work!

*Violet*
02-06-2007, 12:00 PM
loved the videos !! ... keep 'em coming ... esp the speedy ones ... ;)

Bhavana Vijay
02-06-2007, 04:24 PM
Beautiful work as always Dorte and it was nice seeing you in the video!!:wave: :D

binkie
02-06-2007, 08:50 PM
This is really coming along beautifully!!!!

I tried to watch your video but I have dialup and live in an area that has problems getting reception with the streaming. (I think that's what it's called) Anyway, I'm bummed. I would really like to watch your videos!

binkie

Takeyce
02-06-2007, 09:21 PM
wow.. this is fantasic. Thanks for sharing the process.

Merethe T
02-07-2007, 10:20 AM
Awesome job so far, Dorte....I'm enjoying this WIP greatly... :) Gonna check out your video's too,gonna be fun!

So what's next...? Green apple...? Can't wait to see it done, I gotta say a green apple sounds good...

dbjs
02-07-2007, 11:06 AM
Violet, Holley, Bhavana, binkie, Takeyce and Merethe thank you all for looking and commenting! :)

Merethe, Here's what's next:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Feb-2007/70378-wip7lille.jpg

And here's a video of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ETL3XKlkdg

Thanks for looking everyone! :wave:

Bringer
02-07-2007, 03:59 PM
Hej,

It's getting there, yes it is.....
Thanks for posting the video !

Kind regards,

Josť

jochem25
02-07-2007, 04:42 PM
this is great, i can`t wait until it is finished

Netty
02-07-2007, 09:12 PM
This really is looking fantastic!!

Annie-Maree:)

Art Leat
02-07-2007, 09:57 PM
Like Cravia, and because I'm a rank newbie at pastels, I love the details. Please keep them coming.

dbjs
02-09-2007, 01:08 AM
Josť, Jochem, Annie-Maree and Art Leat thank you very much for your kind words. I hope to have the next wip for you soon. :) Thanks for looking! :D

t-sue
02-09-2007, 01:27 AM
This is just awesome!!! Wish I could get my silver pieces in the china cabinet to shine like that, much less a pastel piece!!!

Merethe T
02-09-2007, 04:48 PM
Looking good, looking real good......silver and reflections are terrific! I watched your video's too, great fun to look over your shoulder! Still waiting for the apple..... :D

dbjs
02-10-2007, 02:03 AM
Tammy and Cravia, thanks for looking!
hehe, Merethe I will get to the apple soon!

Sorry there hassn't been an update on this piece, but my very good frinds dog had to be put to sleep yesterday. Fie was her name, I drew her portrait not so long ago. She had epelipsi, and those attacks were really bad! She had them all night, and they desided to put her to sleep so that she wouldn't suffer any more. I'm so sad, I really loved that dog. She was only 7 years old!
I'm sorry for babbeling it all out here for you to read, I just miss Fie SO MUCH. Fortunedly they still have Anton. He's still there to cheer them up. It's just so frustrating to loose a dog like that.
Thanks for reading this.

bock
02-10-2007, 02:05 AM
I have been watching too and am anxiously awaiting that apple. You have us on the edge of our seats. Beautiful work and I really enjoyed the videos.

Pat

dbjs
02-10-2007, 06:06 AM
Ah...I got myself together and finished the silver piece. I hope you'll like it.
I wan't to say a HUGE thanks to all of you for watching and commenting on this!
I'm still edeting the movie about the last stages, but I hope to have it finished tonight or tomorrow. I'll post a link when it's up. :wave:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Feb-2007/70378-silverdone.jpg

Usha
02-10-2007, 08:04 AM
Your painting is amazing!!!:clap::clap::clap: There is a lot to learn from this wip. Thanks a bunch.
Usha

johndill01
02-10-2007, 09:25 AM
Just wanted to say thank you for this beautiful piece and thanks for all the work that was required not only to photgraph the steps, but to also post video's of your work. This is greatly appreciated.

John

dbjs
02-10-2007, 11:49 AM
Usha and John thank you so much!! I'm very very pleased you like it. :)

Here's the link for the last video wip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z61FXpfu_k

*Marina*
02-10-2007, 01:53 PM
Beautiful painting, Dorte. Well done.

*Violet*
02-10-2007, 01:56 PM
Just wanted to say thank you for this beautiful piece and thanks for all the work that was required not only to photgraph the steps, but to also post video's of your work. This is greatly appreciated.

John
john says it well and that's ditto for me too ... :clap::clap::clap: to ya

sailmary
02-10-2007, 08:19 PM
Thank you SO MUCH for doing the video for us and sharing. I'm going to a workshop in March about how to paint metallic containers, and this has given me an advanced peek at the process. It was very useful. Thanks again.

Mary

Nancy Leone
02-10-2007, 10:30 PM
Wow, that's one shiny sugar bowl. Thanks for the wip.

Piper Ballou
02-11-2007, 06:54 AM
WOW.....thanks for posting the little videos, thisi really turned out great
piper

Merethe T
02-11-2007, 10:26 AM
Great finish! I like the green apple...:) The silver is excellent, had fun watching this WIP and the videos - thanks for doing this!

Jean270
02-11-2007, 03:14 PM
Hi dbjs! So sorry to hear about Fie! I can relate to how you feel! "Molly", the St Bernard that I had posted some time ago, was put to sleep while I was working on the portrait! It was very hard to finish the portrait because of those sad eyes just looking at me. It was almost as if she knew that something sad was going to happen. Thanks for the WIP on the silver still life, very informative.
Jean:wave:

dbjs
02-12-2007, 02:18 AM
Marina, Violet, Mary, Nancy, piper, Merethe and Jean: I can't tell you how much your words mean to me. I'm rather overwhelmed by you kind words. Thanks a BUNCH! I'm very glad you can use the videos and the wip's. :)

Sandy K
02-12-2007, 09:27 AM
I think I have died and gone to heaven...........lol.........do you know how much you have helped me in the YouTube videos. I just can't express my thank yous enough. The painting is just so awesome.........and I learned so much about technique. I basically am an oil painter and I can see the similarities in the techniques. Maybe I will accomplish the pastels now that you have shown me some things that I will try. Your work is incredible. Thank you again from the bottom of my heart for sharing your talent; mostly with people like me who are just starting out in Pastels. I don't know how to rate threads yet but if I can I am going to put it in the mentor thingie.

bruce johnson
02-12-2007, 05:04 PM
Brilliant Dorte, This has been an outstanding WIP, and I look forward to many more... you have my mentor point... :clap: :clap:

dbjs
02-13-2007, 01:55 AM
Sandy > wow, strong words! I can't tell YOU how much your words mean to me. I'm really glad you like it, thanks for stopping by and commenting! :D

Bruce > Thank you very much! I'm proud that a great pastelartist like yourself likes it!! :)
Please, can you explain to me how the mentor thingie works? I don't think I understand it. :lol: Or if you've a thread where it's explained I would love a link. Thanks again.

Sandy K
02-13-2007, 08:32 AM
Sandy > wow, strong words! I can't tell YOU how much your words mean to me. I'm really glad you like it, thanks for stopping by and commenting! :D

Bruce > Thank you very much! I'm proud that a great pastelartist like yourself likes it!! :)
Please, can you explain to me how the mentor thingie works? I don't think I understand it. :lol: Or if you've a thread where it's explained I would love a link. Thanks again.
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I couldn't do the mentor thingie because opted out of the awards things when I joined. Stupid me. I went back and looked for an hour on how to change that status but I found no "undo" method.

I promise this is the last question. I REALLY am ordering today. How would you rate the Munygos with softness. Equal to the Rembrandts or the Senneliers, the Schminkes?

dbjs
02-13-2007, 09:26 AM
Sandy > Hm..... Schminkes are the softes then comes the Senneliers and then Mungyos and then the Rembrandts (to me anyway). I find that the mungyos are very very good on velour paper but so are the Rembrandts. I'm no fan of Schminkes. They are auwfull with velour but they work very well on the Art Spectrum paper. Hope it answers you question :) You know where to find me if it dossn't ;)

Sandy K
02-14-2007, 01:41 PM
I finally figured it out Dorte how to change some things in my profile.

I don't know what it means but you got a "Mentor Award" from me for helping me so much in my quest. I clicked the button and it says you got it but I have no idea where it shows or what it means.

Thank you again from the bottom of my heart and good luck to you!

dbjs
02-14-2007, 02:39 PM
Thanks Sandy, I'm glad to have been able to help!!

I asked Bruce and he told me it's an award system where one get's points from other users and when you've accumelated so many points you get an official award that appears on you profile. Cool ain't it? :)

alicat
02-14-2007, 05:34 PM
I've just been popping over to the pastel forum since yesterday and seen your WIP for this work - it's stunning! Thank you for showing us how you work. :clap:

Sandy K
02-14-2007, 06:08 PM
I've just been popping over to the pastel forum since yesterday and seen your WIP for this work - it's stunning! Thank you for showing us how you work. :clap:
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well if you keep helping people like you helped me, I am sure you are going to get more mentor points............!!

mustang202
02-14-2007, 08:36 PM
I was totally blown away! The videos were amazing!! I really loved them and learned a lot. Unbelievably realistic!

dbjs
02-15-2007, 01:37 AM
Ali > Thank you very much!! I'm very glad that you like it!

Sandy > Hehe ^^ thanks!! I'm just glad I could be of some help to you. :)

Mustang> I'm glad you like both the videos and the drawing. Thanks for commenting.

mrking
06-05-2007, 08:23 PM
I like the composition. The only thing that bugs me is the lens flare. It is what it is - a LENS flare, established in the picture by the lens of the camera.

In real life the 'flare' would not be there. It would just be a bright white highlight area. To me the flare takes away from a good still life.

Just my opinion.

Mike

Adiecain
06-06-2007, 04:12 PM
I'm enjoying this....