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dbjs
01-18-2007, 07:39 AM
So I've started on the next commision this time a male dog called Anton. I've promised to make another wip thread and this is it.
Here's my ref photo:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jan-2007/70378-lilleanton.jpg

And here's the first wip:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jan-2007/70378-wip1lille.jpg

C and C's welcome. Thank you for looking! :wave:

Merethe T
01-18-2007, 09:08 AM
Dorte, great start, this will be another stunner! You're so good with eyes, so full of life and personality....great ref to work from! I'll be watching...

Mary Brigid
01-18-2007, 09:21 AM
oh Great Dorte. I am really interested how you will get the shapes and proportions of this black doggie. I will be back with a steaming hot cup of coffee nestled down in my chair to watch this one. You are very generous with your time and your talent. Someday I will paint an animal.... but the thoughts of it scares me to bits.
Can you tell me please what kind of paper you are using?
Mary Brigid

dbjs
01-18-2007, 10:10 AM
Thank you Merethe. I'll post a wip of the eye next, so you can se how I make them.

Mary > Yeah, that's the hardest part about Anton, he's black on black in the most places, but I have a trick or to too do just that hehe ^^ About the paper, I use Velour paper, which makes a GREAT bace for animal portraits.

Here's 7 wip's on doing that eye:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jan-2007/70378-1.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jan-2007/70378-2.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jan-2007/70378-3.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jan-2007/70378-4.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jan-2007/70378-5.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jan-2007/70378-6.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jan-2007/70378-7.jpg

Hope that tell's you how I do the eye's ^^ :cat:

Merethe T
01-18-2007, 10:33 AM
Great wip of the eye....we do have the same approach,lol! I saw in you last thread that you've ordered "Animals that touch the heart"...great book, I have it myself, and did pick up some great tips there. She has the same approach for painting the eye. Don't know if you've seen Gaka's work here at WC...if not I totally recommend looking up his threads - brilliant work and most inspiring to see his WIP's...he gave me some great tips on painting the eye, very talented and generous artist....

Now, I'll let you get on with your work, lol......still watching! :)

dbjs
01-18-2007, 12:49 PM
Merethe > Yes I'm looking very much forward to getting that book! I hope it arrives soon.

I know his work, he's very talented!

Oh...speaking of work, here's my next wip:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jan-2007/70378-wip2lille.jpg

Paula Ford
01-18-2007, 12:50 PM
:eek: WOW...thank you for the eye demo. I always wondered how you do that!!

Paula

dbjs
01-18-2007, 02:56 PM
Thank you Paula, I'm very happy you like it. Now you know my secret about the eyes ^^

Here's another wip. I finished the nose. I'll put up a scanned version tomorrow, but right now I'm sitting at the drawing tabel so theres no room for the scanner. :) Good thing one has a camera!
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jan-2007/70378-IMG_2881.jpg

Charles Perera
01-18-2007, 07:10 PM
absorbingly interesting. Thankyou very much

Charles

The Art Corner
01-18-2007, 07:41 PM
Thanks so much for the demo. This is looking great, can't wait for the next update.

*Violet*
01-18-2007, 07:54 PM
as usual ... wowsers ... and many many thx for the wip ...

Dea
01-19-2007, 04:30 AM
Thankyou for this WIP, I got given a copy of Animals that touch the heart for Christmas. I want to try a painting on velour but I have to buy at least 10 sheets so I am still deciding if I will.
It is good to see how you work, your painting is excellent and very cute so far.
Deanna

Dea
01-19-2007, 04:33 AM
Thankyou for this WIP, I got given a copy of Animals that touch the heart for Christmas. I want to try a painting on velour but I have to buy at least 10 sheets so I am still deciding if I will. I understand it can be quite difficult to work on but the result definitely looks worth it.
It is good to see how you work, your painting is excellent and very cute so far.
Deanna

dbjs
01-19-2007, 07:32 AM
Charles, Shoshana Violet and Deanna, thank you very much for the kind words, and for looking. I'm very glad you like what I've made so far.

And Deanna, You should really give it a try with the velour paper! I know it cost's a bit to get, but you'll regret it if you don't give it a go. And if you don't like the paper, you can always sell what you got left to someone else who want's to try it, that minimizes you loss ;)

And It's wip time again. Now if there's any part you would like to see in wip details please tell me, I'm taking photos as I draw.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Jan-2007/70378-wip4lille.jpg

watergirl
01-19-2007, 08:12 PM
Are you spraying fixative on as you work? I always seem to have a haze of pastel when I use velour.

dbjs
01-20-2007, 03:37 AM
Molly > No, I'm not using fixative, only at the end do I fixate the drawing, and then only lightly. I find fixative frustration to use, because some brands remove the white colors of the pastels, and others makes a really thick layer that makes the velour go stif. So I use a siennelier soft pastel fixative at the end. So far that's the best one I've tried yet. About the haze, yes I get it to, it's very irretating really, but I live whit it. The only problem is that when using white velour as I do, and black pastel, the black color tends to "fall" down on the paper and make a layer of it self some placec. This I have found can be removed by taking a piece of masking tape and dabbing it on the velour where the black layer is. Just do it gently and you get most of it of. Or if you've got an airbrush you can just blow it of. Hope that answers you question. :)

dbjs
01-20-2007, 10:24 AM
I'm not totally done with the toung yet, but it's getting there now. Here's another wip:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Jan-2007/70378-wip5lille.jpg

watergirl
01-20-2007, 06:07 PM
Colors please? Tongues are so tough! :)

dbjs
01-21-2007, 03:12 AM
hehe Molly, I've used 4 diffrent colors:
Ivory Black 67B
Chinise White 72B
Dark violet 25B
Crimson lake 20B
That's Derwent pastel pencils.
I've got a wip picture of each tongue layer I put on. So later I'll post them for you to see. I just have a couple of corrections to do first.

dbjs
01-21-2007, 05:26 AM
So here's the wips for the tongue, using the 4 colors I mentiend yearlier:
Starting of with the black color, I put an undertone layer on:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2007/70378-1.jpg

I carefully mark the transition from tongue to fur on the "lip" area:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2007/70378-2.jpg

Then another layer of black:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2007/70378-3.jpg

First color layer. here I'm using the Crimson lake:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2007/70378-4.jpg

A layer of Dark violet, note that I'm not putting on to much pressure, and therefor the layer is transparent.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2007/70378-5.jpg

Here again the Crimson lake color. This time using a little more pressure:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2007/70378-6.jpg

Dark violet, goes on again. I'm just slowly building the colors so they blend togeter and make the right colors for the tongue.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2007/70378-7.jpg

dbjs
01-21-2007, 05:35 AM
I'm just reinforsing the black middle line of the tongue here:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2007/70378-8.jpg

Then a layer of black shadows goes on. Quite powerfull effekt it has, but don't worri, it'll be toned out:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2007/70378-9.jpg

Crimson lake is used to tone down that black layer:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2007/70378-10.jpg

Again another layer of crimson lake:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2007/70378-11.jpg

Black's the next layer:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2007/70378-12.jpg

Dark violet and crimson lake's put on a couple of places:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2007/70378-13.jpg

And last but not least, the finished version. Here I'm using the white to make highlights, and some more black to deepen the darker areas. Also I've added som crimson lake and dark violet in some spots:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2007/70378-14.jpg

I hope that explains how I do the tongue. I'm not sure I've finished it totally yet, maybe I'll correct some more on it later :)

PaulaT
01-21-2007, 07:17 AM
Hi from a long time lurker, I had to come out and say a huge thank-you for this wip. You have just given us the most detailed and understandable WIP I have ever seen. I have so far done three pieces two on velour and one on suede. I have one of my german shepard with her tongue hanging out and I have been done with it for quite some time but it just sits there waiting to get framed. I now can work on her tongue, which I struggled with so much and make it look a little better. Your wips help us newbies so much, they are so detailed exactly what we need. If I can be really really greedy I would love to see a close-up wip on how you do your fur and make it so realistic. Again thank-you so much for your wip. I will keep watching as I am sure many are. Paula:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

dbjs
01-21-2007, 07:35 AM
Well, thank you PaulaT for those kind words! And yes you can be greedy, I'll make sure that I get some shot's of the fur building prosses next! I'll proberly have them, for you to see, tomorrow. :)

Thank you again! :D

dbjs
01-21-2007, 10:08 AM
So how do I build the fur. I've got 4 steps to show you how I do it.

I start of with the black color and make sure that it's sharpend quite well, try and make it as sharp as possible. The with the black I make small lines. Here it's from the nose out. Remember to make the fur "flow" in the right direction. take a carefull look at you ref photo to get the fur's direction.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2007/70378-1.jpg

I just put lot's of small thin black lines on the "upper lip" area and note that I don't fill it all out. I have holes where you can see the paper:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2007/70378-2.jpg

Then I take the white pastel pencil and do the same as with the black. This time trying to hit the spots where the paper can be seen.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2007/70378-3.jpg

Last but not least I take the black and put on another layer of thin lines till I'm satisfied with the result:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2007/70378-4.jpg

That's how I do it.
If you would like to se how I make the black areas of fur please tell me. I'll post some wip's of that to. :)

watergirl
01-21-2007, 02:07 PM
I am going to use pastel pencils now-have been using softies and not getting this detail. Stunning and thank you so much for your WIP.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2007/43083-darrins_puppys_eyes.jpg

*Violet*
01-21-2007, 02:46 PM
you are generous and truly kind indeed to share the secrets of your skills and ability ... thank you so much ... you inspire us ...

dbjs
01-22-2007, 01:31 AM
Molly, that's a nice looking dog you posted, and thanks for the kind words.

Violet, you know me, I love sharing. :) Can't help myself! I love to se how other people do with what I've learnd. Thank you for looking!

dbjs
01-22-2007, 11:33 AM
So it's time again for a wip. :)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Jan-2007/70378-wip6lille.jpg

watergirl
01-22-2007, 08:13 PM
Dorte, Thank you for comment on my dog. Just wanted to show you the lack of fine detail I have been getting. Definitely going to try your method!

Jean270
01-22-2007, 08:40 PM
Hi! just loving the WIP you are doing on Anton! He is just coming to life before our eyes. Thank you so much for showing us your tips!
I have posted my "first ever pastel" of my dog "Bobby", would love to hear your comments. Jean:wave:

CindyW
01-22-2007, 08:51 PM
Beautiful work!!
and a sweet face, too. :)
Cindy

nvcricket
01-23-2007, 01:29 AM
Dorte,
Here's proof I follow all of your posts!!!

The one thing that frustrates me using the pencils is that I have to keep sharpening them. I don't have a good sharpener at home, so have to take them with me daily to work to use a great sharpener there. How do you sharpen yours? Are you shaving them to points/ sanding them to points, or using any sort of special sharpener?

Also, when you layed your first colors on the tongue, were you using the flat side of the pencil. I am amazed you get so many controlled layers in that tongue! It's like watching a master at work!

Thanx lots
Carol

dbjs
01-23-2007, 01:48 AM
Molly, I hope you show me what you make! I would love to se how you do. :)

Jean, what a lovely dog Bobby is!!

Cindy, thank you! :D

hehe ^^ Carol I don't doubt you do!
Well I use a Stanley knife. But not just any little one. Here's what I use:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Jan-2007/70378-1.jpg

These knives you can buy in any DIY store. Remember to get extra blades, as you use them up quite fast. And change blade often. Pastels are very hard on the sharpnes of the blades!

I hold the pencil like this and push the knife with my thump. Be carefull the blade dossn't slip.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Jan-2007/70378-5.jpg

I sharpen the pencils quite often, and they are this sharp:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Jan-2007/70378-6.jpg

About the tongue layer I use the flat of the sharp pencil and put on the layer using a little pressure, sort of like this:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Jan-2007/70378-7.jpg

Hope that answers you questions Carol, if not..... well you know what to do :lol: Thank you for looking. :thumbsup:

Jean270
01-23-2007, 07:06 PM
This is soooooo good! :clap: I don't think I have ever seen a better WIP!! You are very generous with your information! I have learned a lot from this post! Glad you like my "Bobby" I will post "Laddie" next who is Bobby's Half Brother, he is not as sweet as Bobby, he is a little Terror(not Terrier):evil: I have several more dogs that I did as Commissions, but I don't want to post them all at once. Thanks again for sharing your expertise!
Jean:wave:

nvcricket
01-24-2007, 02:59 AM
AH HAH!

I wonder if I can trust myself to whittle those sticks... Such a fine sharp point. As with everything else, with practice it will come to me...

I am thinking about buying a set of Nupastels, I read that others use those like a pencil. They sharpen them to fine points. After all pastel pencils have hard pastel in them.... I'll save the dust in seperate containers to use as underpaintings like Deborah Secor suggests. I love your pictures showing all the details in your explanations. Thankyou for answering my questions!
MORE MORE!!!
Carol

dbjs
01-24-2007, 07:21 AM
Jean and Carol Thank you both so much! I'm very glad you like the wip's and that it helps you. :D

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/24-Jan-2007/70378-wip7lille.jpg

I hope to get this drawing finished today! :)

Rose Baggs
01-24-2007, 08:37 AM
Your painting is coming along great and the Wip is very informative. Excellent job Dorte!

dbjs
01-24-2007, 02:57 PM
Thanks Rose. :D

Now, I've worked on it today, and given it the big haul, so now it's finished!! :D So here's Anton:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/24-Jan-2007/70378-antonlille.jpg

Thanks to you alle for watching and commenting on the wip's! :wave:

DebbieGS
01-24-2007, 03:17 PM
Wow...Your work is beautiful! Thank you so much for this WIP!

Jean270
01-24-2007, 05:14 PM
He looks like he can jump right out of the computer! :D Great looking dog! About 15 years ago we had a Norwegian Elkhound, he had that same look. Very Powerful dog! I'm not sure if its the picture on my computer or not but on your ref there is a little white in the ears and on the sides of the head
Jean:wave:

pequan
01-24-2007, 06:09 PM
WOW, you do gorgeous work!! thanks for sharing it with us... I am going to print it out and save it for a day I get brave enough to do a pooch portrait ..... did you use blues and purples in the fur? Or do you use straight black? The painting is so smooth and pretty....do you blend at all?

Molly: Your fur is thick and lush, and very gorgeous as well.....I don't know why you would want to change your style...... I would use Art Spectrum soft pastels and then use pastel pencils to finish the painting and put in the fine lines and details.... of course I have never tried this (yet)!!!!!!!

palettetalk
01-25-2007, 12:03 AM
This has been an amazing instructional, thank you so much! Stunning art work and FINALLY a method to sharpen those pesky pastel pencils! I have pulled my hair out trying to sharpen pastel pencils, using all kinds of sharpeners to no avail...
I'm off to purchase a big old Stanley retractable knife!
Bye (and thanks so much),
Susan

Bhavana Vijay
01-25-2007, 12:36 AM
Oh my my my! WOW...this is incredible! Breathtaking! Loved looking at all those step by step pictures...thanks so much. I have never tried an animal before but I know where to come look if I need to.

willG
01-25-2007, 01:57 PM
Thanks for the info, great work, just wonderful to watch, isn't the 21st century technology just fantastic , well done Will

MarciaJane
01-25-2007, 02:30 PM
Thanks for taking us through this lovely WIP. It has been a real learning curve to see this develop and the end result is just wonderful. I don't doubt a few following this thread have been truly inspired... including myself. Thanks again for sharing such beautiful work !!

Mike_Beeman
01-25-2007, 02:41 PM
Beautiful work...enjoyed viewing the process..thanks for sharing!
Mike

dbjs
01-26-2007, 01:34 AM
Thank you Debbie, Jean, pequan, Susan, Bhavana, Will, MARCIA and Mike for the support and kind words. I really have no words to discribe how glad I am for your support! THANK YOU!!!! :)

dbjs
01-26-2007, 01:40 AM
did you use blues and purples in the fur? Or do you use straight black? The painting is so smooth and pretty....do you blend at all?

I used a little blue in the fur, no purple this time. But mostly it's black and white. No I never blend. :)

Merethe T
01-26-2007, 10:29 AM
Dorte - awesome work!!! Every detail is perfect, and your WIP has been so informative. Thanks a million! :)

PaulaT
01-27-2007, 09:35 AM
Thank-you for the awsome WIP it was so very helpful, you are a very talented and giving person. Paula

NancyPH
01-27-2007, 12:22 PM
Hey Dorte, glad I could find you here! You already know that I simply love Anton. Such a beautiful job on him, as you do on ALL of your paintings!! :clap: :clap: I may need to rework a cute little mutt I did a couple of years ago and see if I can get her tongue to look like this. :