View Full Version : My first post at Wetcanvas 2007 : Christmas 2005
01-01-2007, 05:34 PM
First at all, I send all you a very Happy New 2007 year.
Some of your friends tell me to post my first original post here at Portraiture.
Well, this oil on black and white I finished on Christmas 2005, any comments/oppinions/suggestions/critique will be appreciated. Original post is at new users.
One of my 2007 goals are to integrate with you at WetCanvas receiving/sending feedback. Remember, as many hard your critique I will more appreciate it.
I am about 3 years painting at weekends and some hours at morning or night.
01-01-2007, 08:31 PM
I really like this portrait and the monotone color adds to the overall feeling of the painting. I would like to see more of your recent works.
01-02-2007, 09:03 AM
Thanks pencilcrations, But any comments/oppinions/suggestions/critique to improve my works ?
Here I send another work, it is oil also, it is 50x70 cm also as the first. Who recognize it :rolleyes: ?
01-02-2007, 01:30 PM
A suggestion would be to look very objectively at your subject and only paint exactly what you see and not what you THINK you see. Look at the nose on your female model, for instance. It is quite crooked and one nostril is much larger than the other.
With the light coming from approximately 4 o'clock, the shadow on the lighter side of her face is too dark. The concept of the painting is lovely, I very much like it. But overall, it looks very hurried in some aspects.
I'm not familiar with the gentleman in the second painting although he looks familiar. I'd say his collar is much too white and there aren't enough highlights on his face. His eyes and nose are very well done but the mouth doesn't seem to 'fit' the rest of his face. Perhaps the area between the bottom of his nose and the top of his lip is too long. The suit looks rushed as well and could either be just brushed in or completed. Seems like you couldn't decide quite what to do with it.
Welcome to WC and please post some of your recent works also! Thanks for sharing this with us.
01-02-2007, 04:19 PM
I agree with Dana. Also on the first portrait, which is very interesting in itself, it would help if you correct her left eye (our right) which seem much darker then the other. This eyes is the one receiveing more light, so it can't be darker than the other. By the way, welcome to WC.
01-02-2007, 10:22 PM
Hello Dana: Very thanks at your response
You are right. The girl is somethig wrong at nose and the shadow you say. At nose I have detected a bit before sending it, but not detected the wrong shadow. Isn`t permitted a backlighting ? You are right, it was hurried to finalize it.
Question: It can be categorized it as magic realism ?
Resume: Correct some light/shadow innconsistences and face aspects without lose his lovely aspect.
The getleman: you are right, the collar is very white, and the face fails in tridimensional aspects as you say (highlights), about the mouth and thei distance to the nose, you are right, I have not the original photo here but my brain remembers that is not so large, I will search the photo and review it,
Resume:Correct Shadows/highlights and review proportions.
General Resume: You are right, for this type of painting we fail as you say: "only paint exactly what we see and not what we THINK we see", and this is my personal opinion ( I am wrong ?) "unless we want to express, explicity an exageration/effect/thing/etc" , for example: as the platforms the female has from the neck to the shoulder , that I now see can be also improved.
Regards Dona, and thanks newly.
01-02-2007, 10:32 PM
Thanks for your response.
I will review their eyes in respect to study daqrker / lighter zones.
I am interested tu receive now comments about backlighting in this portrait, and in general what is permitted / not permitted in backlighting in portraits or in general, with some images if you can.
Regards at all, interesting themes are arriving.
01-02-2007, 10:38 PM
Yes, backlighting is important in the girl's painting. However, the form or the nose should still be there whether it is very light or very dark. Magical realism is the perfect description of this lovely painting. You should leave it alone and paint something new.
As far as painting what we see, any artist has license to paint their impression of a person whether it is an exaggeration, a special effect or anything else that strikes your interest. That's what makes us artists. No one paints identically. Paint to enjoy yourself!
01-02-2007, 10:46 PM
I feel you are online now.
I dont understand about you say "You should leave it alone and paint something new".
1.- What you suggest ?
2.- Correct this ?
3.- Start the same but in another canvas ? Make a new theme ?
I hear a bit, let this at is, and start a new paint....
What you recommend ?
01-02-2007, 10:52 PM
The most important thing is to please yourself in regards to expression, unless is a commissioned work, then you would have to please the customer... up to a certain degree only.
01-02-2007, 11:03 PM
You are right jhercilia.
In this case, it is not a commisioned work.
I have now options to take free way how to treat this piece of art ( It likes me very much, and I treated them very inspired, not about who is the female ( that is another person of fame in this land, as the gentleman, but about the expression it has, and I contributed with my own expression also ) )
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