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Nickel
12-30-2006, 07:22 PM
Classical Art Journey 2007

We love art!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Dec-2006/39040-david_teniers_o_jovem.jpg

David Teniers, The Younger

Welcome to a new year! Out with the old and in with the new!
Last year we started this journey with the intent to make
Art cards, 52 of them. As the year progressed, some of us just
Couldn’t see that size and we changed the rules as we saw fit.

Some members came when we first started for a while and
Then moved on to other things.
Some came later in the year, stayed awhile
And moved on.
Some of us have been here from the start.

The purpose has been to learn about art and make art.
Some of our work has been originals.
Other works have been studies of artists.

Sometimes we have used a new medium.
Sometimes we have extended ourselves
To draw or paint something.
But overall, we have learned by our journey about ourselves.
We have learned how art is made. Who made the art?
Why this or that art was made at this or that particular time.
It’s not been a structured program. We have chosen whom
We wanted to study, when we wanted to study them and
What we wanted to share with each other.
We try to help each other in a kind way.

Not everything you will see on the journey is perfect.
You may not feel that anything is perfect on our journey.
However, we consider this a learning lab.
We are not here to make perfect copies of someone else’s work and
If we do that is ok too.
We study the composition, the color, the time period, the history,
The medium, etc, and we have a good time.
We even have our own Classical Art Journey Gallery.

Any member is invited to join us. If you are a visitor just reading
Us on the web, please think about joining us. It’s going to be a
Great year!

In the past year, the Classical Fourm has had some
great workshops with John Cox and WF Martin.

We have a great workshop going on now
RENAISSANCE ITALIAN PAINTING WORKSHOP
hosted by David Rourke.

If you check out

Our Classical Hall of Fame,

you will find some specific threads on
technique and the subject of Classical Art.


There is more to come.

Nickel
12-30-2006, 07:26 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Dec-2006/39040-Teniers.jpg

David Teniers, The Younger

Große Dorfkirmes mit dem tanzenden Paar
Antwerpen, Brüssel


Netherlands Dutch Flemish Baroque Era Painter


1610-1690

A little more about him can be found on these two links.

http://www.artcyclopedia.com/artists/teniers_the_younger_david.html

http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/art.asp?aid=2694

Nickel
12-30-2006, 07:30 PM
A Happy New Years To You All

May It Be A Great 2007!

“Auld Lang Syne”1

ROBERT BURNS

Should auld acquaintance be forgot,
And never brought to min’?
Should auld acquaintance be forgot,
And days o’ lang syne?

Chorus
For auld lang syne, my dear,
For auld lang syne,
We’ll tak a cup o’ kindness yet,
For auld lang syne.

We twa hae run about the braes,2
And pu’d the gowans3 fine,
But we’ve wandered mony a weary foot,
Sin’ auld lang syne.

Chorus
For auld lang syne, my dear,
For auld lang syne,
We’ll tak a cup o’ kindness yet,
For auld lang syne.

We twa hae paidled I’ the burn,4
From morning sun till dine,5
But seas between us braid6 hae roared,
Sin’ auld lange syne.

Chorus
For auld lang syne, my dear,
For auld lang syne,
We’ll tak a cup o’ kindness yet,
For auld lang syne.

And there’s a hand, my trusty fiere,7
And gie’s a hand o’thine;
And we’ll tak a right gude-willie waught,8
For auld lang syne.

Chorus
For auld lang syne, my dear,
For auld lang syne,
We’ll tak a cup o’ kindness yet,
For auld lang syne.

And surely ye’ll be your pint-stowp,9
And surely I’ll be mine;
And we’ll tak a cup o’kindness yet,
For auld lang syne.

Chorus
For auld lang syne, my dear,
For auld lang syne,
We’ll tak a cup o’ kindness yet,
For auld lang syne.
1. Lang Syne. Long ago
2. braes. Slopes
3. gowans. Daisies
4. twa…burn. Two have paddled in the stream
5. dine. Dinner
6. braid. Broad
7. fiere. Friend
8. gude-willie waught. A big swig
9. be your pint-stowp. Pay for your pint-cup


Robert Burns 1759-1796
The National Poet of Scotland.

Nickel
12-30-2006, 07:33 PM
Now for one of our new adventures


Twelve Monthly Challenges

First member to post in the first week of the current month’s thread gets to submit
A challenge to other members. You got to try and meet the challenge if you can.
Each Month’s challenge will have it’s own thread.


I'll start the thread. Who ever is the next poster gets to pick our first
challenge :D :wave:

Here is the link to the Twelve Monthy Challenges

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=391181

Sincerely Nickel

Nickel
12-31-2006, 02:34 PM
Now for one of our new adventures


Twelve Monthly Challenges

First member to post in the first week of the current month’s thread gets to submit
A challenge to other members. You got to try and meet the challenge if you can.
Each Month’s challenge will have it’s own thread.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/31-Dec-2006/39040-loldog.gif


Hey what'd I do, my post don't count as next. Really!

Here's some of the things we have talked about doing.

One idea for next year might be to compose an original drawing or painting using a borrowed sculpted figure as the main character. I have read that one of my favorite painters, Francisco Hayez, used several Canova sculptures as the base models for his paintings. Just an idea.

Classical subjects in a contemporary age

Animal & Wildlife Classical approach & technique

Artwork from Life Classical
(painted from life)
(from photographs)
(adding imagination)


The artists who paint what they see are also conveying a sense of their private world, their culture and time.

Bodyparts

Bird of India

Greek mythology

Book of Kells

Browse images of manuscripts


"Book of Hours" from Library of Congress Rare Books on line collection.

drapery

I stumbled across this link and thought all you lovely ladies might be interested in it. It is a classically designed, peacock themed dress designed by Christian Dior.

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/god...53.40.5a-e.htm

Also, at the bottom of that page is a link to he costume department at that musuem - it has some really awesome photos of different clothing that would be really fun to draw. It never occurred to me that a musuem would have clothes in it

I mean how would you go about this....I have an affinity for ink and letters( roman and chinese) and would welcome a nudge in that direction......

...my avatar was my creation for the halloween contest this year ....its a scary artist....tyree

Unlike the French phrase nature morte (literally "dead nature") or the term "still life," which is its closest equivalent in English, the Spanish term bodegón does not imply death or immobilization, but instead relates to the pantry, or bodega, where the objects pictured in these canvases were commonly kept.

And like that space, the traditional bodegón was infused with humility and a sense of the everyday, though as the genre emerged during the Counter-Reformation, these qualities were often coupled with a profoundly transcendental value.

In works by pioneers of the genre such as Juan Sánchez Cotán, humble fruits, vegetables, or baked goods are set against an inky black background, enabling sensations of spatial timelessness to intersect with the contradictory impressions of temporal brevity aroused by objects whose precise and minutely described materiality seems to transform them into dramatic reminders of the transience of beauty or the notion of perishability.

This tension distinguishes the Spanish bodegón from the sumptuous spreads of the kitchen tables of Flanders, or the expressive burlesque of the figures appearing in Italian pictures of the same time.

I think it could be a good idea to try everybody the same study.. nevertheless I also like the freedom of this "journey "! ... I'd really like to continue it ! A good idea could perhaps be to suggest a subject to study freely ... do you remember the "peacock week " (week 39)

attempting the 'verdaccio' method of underpainting, but I must have gone wrong somewhere

once a month organized activity rather than weekly

good to practise with your own face as you are more tolerant of your beginning efforts The background is imagined but loosely based on Botticelli type of framing/composition

I'm trying to learn to appreciate a good still life, but as far as making one I'm clueless

'Passion Fruit' by Alex Gotfryd, Photographs by Alex Gotfryd

June, there are 133 images in ARC and I am posting this link
http://www.humanitiesweb.org/human.p...p=c&a=s&ID=188
Rogier van der Weyden

I have a few ideas for projects I would like to do which might be added to a list we could make of ideas and then we could pick one from the pile for the current week.

1. animals in a composition
2. illuminate a poem or myth
3. try an allegory painting
4. different shapes of supports

Like an illustration to a Pre-raphaelite poem, e.g., Christina Rosetti http://www.textetc.com/theory/painting-models.html

I was looking at round compo's last night and thought it'd be fun to try. I don't know much at all about blogs, will look to see how they work. I think they are like journals or something were you connect or link to other journals.

the idea of the blog is nice .. I'd like to keep in touch with all of you.. we are a great group, and these weekly journeys are fun , although I also agree with Granby when he says it's hard to keep updated with the work and the threads

grisaille

Art and Fear by Bayles.

....i think that would be neat nickel..having a drawing that we all would work on...and still do our weekly posts also

tyree
12-31-2006, 03:45 PM
happy new year everyone!!!!! Now lets see...i guess im first????? How about the first challenge being a self portrait, done in the baroque period, any medium, any size...you may put yourself in one of the masters paintings, if you like...hope this might be interesting to you all!!!! tyree:wave:

Nickel
12-31-2006, 04:10 PM
This sounds cool! Great Challenge!
Susan, I'll copy and paste this to the Challenge Jan. Thread.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=391181

Thanks for starting us off to a great NEW Year!Sincerely Nickel

PushingPixels
12-31-2006, 10:04 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baroque_Period

well to jumpstart me and my poitrait I'm off to find out just what typifies Baroque... anyone have enlightenment to share...

favorite artist or style?

this is gonna be fun:cat:

Nickel
12-31-2006, 10:58 PM
I look awful wordy in this thread :eek: :o

One example of Baroque:

Caravaggio~Look for some of his work and the way he uses

Chiaroscuro~intense light and deep shadow

Emotion & Drama~think theatrical poses & emotional expressions.

:wave: Happy New Year! Nickel

artbyjune
01-01-2007, 03:15 AM
Well, I love this weeks blurb...really I do!! Because it starts with monkeys and Robert Burns. As a Scottish monkey fan...just up my street.

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE.

As for baroque style...I will need to do research on that too. Caravaggio, I know.

azulparsnip
01-01-2007, 09:29 AM
This sounds like fun, putting ourselves into an old painting:lol: and we got a whole month to dig around This is shaping up to be a great year.:p

I"m going out, sitting in the car (it is raining) to draw the uptown Confederate Veterans statue for the first Monday of the month.:rolleyes: (looking up at the rain)

msue
01-01-2007, 11:31 AM
I just looked in on this thread for the first time today. After reading most of the posts I grabbed my handy dandy copy of "The Art Book" for a definition and examples of baroque. (my first thought is what I learned about baroque music--it spirals). Anyway thought you'd like to read a bit of the definition. It comes from the Italian word barocco meaning bizarre or zany. Other artists listed are Bernini, Cuyp, Gentileschi, Guercino, Kalf, Rembrandt,Reni, Rubens, Sanchez-Cotan, Velazquez, Zurbaran.

Hope that was of some interest to everyone. I'll give some thought to joining in these adventures (however right now I can't seem to finish the piece I'm trying to do for a major show, a local art league challenge, or anything else:rolleyes: )

artbyjune
01-01-2007, 12:19 PM
Bizarre or zany sounds good to me.

I had a look for more of the monkey paintings and there is one by Tenniers (whom I'd never heard of til this morning!) of monkeys dressed up and gavorting in a town square. Maybe baroque can also cover surreal?

I like the Dutch art of this period..Rembrandt, etc.

Its shaping up to be a really interesting project!!:clap:

tyree
01-01-2007, 01:38 PM
I myself am thinking of putting myself in a Vermeer painting....how presumptuous!!! I always think of baroque period as being dark and dramatic....glad you all like the idea...thanks to our Nickel for all her work..with all these new ideas!!!! tyree:wave:

tyree
01-01-2007, 03:04 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Jan-2007/65063-vermeer-lady_writing.jpg how about this one...i may change the yellow...not one of my colours:lol: tyree:p :D

artbyjune
01-01-2007, 03:15 PM
That looks good. I'm looking forward to seeing this as your self portrait, Tyree.

I like Rembrandt's works and Caravaggio, but I find Tenniers fun-style art with all the monkeys and cats rather whimsical and enjoyable and fun.

So I may go either way...serious and dramatic, or fun and laughter!!

Has anyone else decided?

What medium are you thinking of using Tyree?

tyree
01-01-2007, 03:44 PM
hi junebug!!!!! im thinking of pastels on a darker paper.....tyree:wave:

tyree
01-01-2007, 06:45 PM
nickel....should i have put the painting im thinking about doing in the twelve month challenge thread????? this thread is still our everyweek journey thread...or am i getting confused? tyree:confused:

Nickel
01-01-2007, 06:52 PM
Hi all, hope your first New Year Day has been great!

June, glad you like the monkies & Burns.
I thought it was interesting he was of the Romantic era
So his thoughts are very appropriate to here in the classical forum.


Hi Msue, welcome, hope you can join us too! And thanks for helping us
on the definition. It'd be great to see your work for sure and talk about
what you find interesting in the various arts. The journey for me has
helped to give me a push when I have a block in finishing something.

Susan, great choice of Vermeer, I giggled when you said yellow wasn't
your color. Cute.

June, I haven't decided but I did do some more reading and sexual innuendos
and violent subjects are part of this period. I think I like the zanny too.

Azulparsnip you are off to a great start. It has been a wet, gray day! I did start my sketch. I need practice. :wave:

Sincerely Nickel

Nickel
01-01-2007, 06:55 PM
Susan, that would be great to post your Vermeer in the twelve challenge thread.
But it's nice here too.
I think I came up with so many things to do my head is swimmy. :D
I did make a chocolate cake today. HAHA, didn't even burn it.
I guess I can start that diet I need to be on when the cake is gone. :evil:
:wave: Nickel

Mony G
01-02-2007, 08:27 AM
Hi and Happy New Year!

A lot of interesting and challenging stuff, the idea of the Advent calendar appeals to me although I hadn't understood whether the works have to posted in at Xmas time or thoughout the year, and the Monthly Challenge is fun ... I love this first hint... putting ourselves into an ancient painting... ummm... sounds difficult ... and is this the usual weekly journey ? there are so many things that I'm getting confused... I'd love to go on with our usual thread!... I have some "classical stuff to start posting

Could Nickel have the patience to explain me further?:confused: :o

Bye for now!

Mony

Nickel
01-02-2007, 09:17 AM
Hi and Happy New Year!

A lot of interesting and challenging stuff, the idea of the Advent calendar appeals to me although I hadn't understood whether the works have to posted in at Xmas time or thoughout the year, and the Monthly Challenge is fun ... I love this first hint... putting ourselves into an ancient painting... ummm... sounds difficult ... and is this the usual weekly journey ? there are so many things that I'm getting confused... I'd love to go on with our usual thread!... I have some "classical stuff to start posting

Could Nickel have the patience to explain me further?:confused: :o

Bye for now!

Mony

Hi Mony, Happy New Years! :wave:

About the Advent Calendar,

I thought it would be good to start work on one now,
it takes some time to reflect and pick your subjects and
then make the art.
I think as we get a painting/drawing made or a wip,
it'd be good to see them as they progress.
I'm planning to do crops, it's a lot of pictures to make. :eek:

Or you can post all the pictures at the beginning of December.
It can be like an opening to your exhibit.

It's really however you want to do.

I really want to make a nice one to pass down in my family,
one day I may have grandchildren.
I've been told, haha, one day but not today.
It would be a nice tradition to do one.

Don't worry I am a little dizzy from too much information overload.

There is so much, just pick and do as you can or want to.
I was thinking that I'd try to work some of my sketches, and,
challenge, and journey, and Advent as one piece. Or pieces.

That way I can work them all or a lot of them but together sort of,
does that help? I am sorry, I know it is still not really clear.

I don't have enough time to do each and every thing and
the journey is still the same.

Just find an artist or style (((our own art too)))
you have an interests in and work it,
classical, traditional, impressionistic, realistic, romantic
in your chosen media and try to do something each week.
Then we share like before.
You all are the best at introducing artists.
I've learned so much.
This week just has a lot of different things to talk about.

We also still have to think about our own
artistic vision. We want to strengthen it and
pull it to the fore front of our art too.

That means I've got to get busy today, or my vision stays in my head and not visual.;)

If I am still jumbles, just ask, I'll try to do better. :angel:
Sincerely Nickel

Granby
01-02-2007, 02:23 PM
Hi Everybody,

Happy new year..

So the weekly thread just continues along just like we used to do it - correct?

My effort for the week is painted version of my drawing last week - I posted it to the rennaisance thread.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=345325&stc=1&d=1167750803

Yikes - a baroque self portrait :eek: - thanks Tyree - I suspect this should be very interesting.

Nickel
01-02-2007, 07:57 PM
Hey Granby, your girl is very pretty! You did good :)

N

found this a little while ago speaking of portraits
hope you enjoy the little movie.

http://www.museeduluxembourg.fr/presentation1.asp

bye

Mony G
01-03-2007, 04:25 AM
Hi everybody!

As it now seems quite clear that everything goes on on this thread as usual , this is my first entry for the year ... still inspired by the just past Christmas season!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-Jan-2007/77963-File0641zip.jpg

It's the light-hearted angel from "the Rest during the Flight from Egypt" by Caravaggio , the one Nickel put as an introduction in the last thread of 2006 ... I love this angel , it's one of my favourites !

I'm also glad to know that we'll still keep this this journey going on... it's really good to keep practice going!

Bye- :wave:

Mony

Granby
01-03-2007, 09:56 AM
Really nice drawing Mony,
I tried to draw this angel also (did not turn out well). The lower legs were super tricky - you did a good job on those, and you got the body mass balanced well on the legs. Those wings gave me fits - Did you notice that those those wings seem to sprout out under the angels right shoulder rather than being centered on the angels back ?

artbyjune
01-03-2007, 01:47 PM
Money, superb angel drawing. It is a really nice one in an interesting pose.

Nickel
01-03-2007, 07:46 PM
Mony, your angel is terrific!
Really! :clap: :clap: :clap:

Nickel

tyree
01-03-2007, 09:10 PM
granby....that is a beautiful job done on that head...so expressive....mony...excellent work on that body of the angel..especially the legs!!! very very nice....glad you all are going to try the self portrait in baroque period....i think it will be pretty interesting!!! tyree:wave: