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bruce johnson
12-09-2006, 08:48 PM
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second attempt/Final ??
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/94919/tn_Art_group_1_030_edited.jpg

You're welcome Rick.. this is coming along well .. only thing that stands out at the moment is the lips look a bit red.. popsicle lips I call them.. tone them down a little with the same colours you have used for the rosie cheeks.. doing great.. :clap:

bruce johnson
12-09-2006, 08:51 PM
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Still working on mouth and eye
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/83008/tn_Julie4a.jpg

Doing well Arleenie.. the skin tones look very equal in value. Look for some lighter values... you've already started on the far side of the mouth.. great job :clap: :clap:

bruce johnson
12-09-2006, 08:55 PM
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My second try
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/94287/tn_DSC00057.JPG

Much better Retha ... If you look at developing the eyes now and make them look a little more open the portrait will start to pop. Top stuff:clap: :clap:

bruce johnson
12-10-2006, 02:06 AM
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Final update
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/17761/tn_Pastel_study_of_Julie_025.jpg

When I did the shirt I allowed some of the white paper to show through.. this gives the image of texture in the shirt and doesn't look like such a block of dark..

bruce johnson
12-10-2006, 02:10 AM
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Final update
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/17761/tn_Pastel_study_of_Julie_025.jpg

I'm not happy with the dark shadow under the eye, Ill adjust this when its dry.. I've sprayed the painting with fixative..

Sunflwr1
12-10-2006, 10:53 AM
Bruce,

Your Julie is just wonderful! :clap: :clap: :clap: There have been so many wonderful Julies posted! Congrats to everyone!:thumbsup:

Thank you so much for sharing your time, patience, and talent so generously throughout this entire project! It's been a real learning experience. Since you made no comments on my last post... I'll behave and just briefly mention that I do hope you'll do another in the future. :)

I've been sick this week and haven't felt like painting, but I will finish my Julie and post it as soon as I can.

I would like to ask one more thing... How do you determine what color/colors you will use for a background?

Again, thanks so much!
Marcia

Rose Baggs
12-10-2006, 11:03 AM
Thank you so much Bruce. I don't have words to say how thankful I'm to be part of this wonderful experience. I've learned so much with this project. I can't wait to start another portrait...Thank you!!!!!
Your finished portrait is great!!!

bruce johnson
12-10-2006, 06:04 PM
Hi Marcia

Another project you say... hmmmmmm....ok :lol: :lol: Maybe a toddler portrait.. some artists find it difficult to get the age right in a portrait. I'm open to suggestions.. I think this format worked quite well..once I got myself sorted out that is..:rolleyes: Having everyone paint the same image made it easier for me, coz I could paint the same portrait and solve a lot of the issues that you guys were experiencing. Be a lot more difficult with everyone painting something different.. Maybe you could start another thread and see how many artists are interested... I might have scared everyone off.. :lol: :lol: :p


With my background colours I will normally look at going with complementary colours to make the portrait sing.. I will at least have some complementary colour in the background even if its not the dominant colour.. Sometimes its just a gut feeling .. I know a lot of artists experiment with BG's on photoshop before they commit to paint.. :thumbsup:

bruce johnson
12-10-2006, 06:10 PM
Hi Rose you're very welcome I'm pleased you had fun... Marcia has bullied me :p into doing another project, so if you're interested... maybe a toddler this time.. :clap: :thumbsup:

Pat Isaac
12-10-2006, 06:48 PM
I like that idea, Bruce. I am still planning to finish up this project in Jan. Sorry, there is just no time this month as we are traveling next week. I'll catch up.

Pat

bruce johnson
12-10-2006, 08:32 PM
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Julie - Done?
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/30113/tn_julie_12-10a.jpg

HI Marcia

this has come out very well. Its a lovely radiant portrait. The only little thing I notice is Julies right eye is squinting a little too much.. it needs to be opened up a little ... don't worry about the likeness at this stage, that will come with more practice.. just remember that a likeness is achieved at the drawing stage, thats why with difficult portraits I develop the line drawing more than most portrait artists... an inaccurate line drawing with colour added will still be a poor line drawing, just prettier...:thumbsup:
And write on your xmas list.... buy more pastels :lol: :lol: well done :clap: :clap:

bruce johnson
12-10-2006, 08:34 PM
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close-up
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/30113/tn_12-10_close.jpg

Add a few little darks in between the highlighted strands of hair.. this will give the hair a more layered look...:clap:

bruce johnson
12-10-2006, 08:43 PM
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even tho i've signed it ...
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/46454/tn_julie_wip_10_sm.JPG

Top job violet.. very well done indeed.. with the background I would extend the light blue to the edge of the paper and then lay in some pthalo blue in the top right hand corner and blend it into the lighter blue... this will give the impression of deep blue sky over head... you may even want to blend the lighter blue into some olive green right at the bottom of the painting to indicate grass.. your background has created a halo effect which a lot of artists try to avoid.. :clap:

lisilk
12-10-2006, 08:46 PM
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even tho i've signed it ...
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/46454/tn_julie_wip_10_sm.JPG

This is super! Well done!:clap:

Sunflwr1
12-10-2006, 09:17 PM
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even tho i've signed it ...
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/46454/tn_julie_wip_10_sm.JPG

Hi Violet!

Love the way you did her hair and you really achieved a likeness! Wonderful!!!

:clap: :clap: :clap:

Marcia

Sunflwr1
12-10-2006, 10:05 PM
Hi Bruce:wave:

Thanks for the comments... I've worked a bit on Julie's right eye and added some subtle darks to her hair, but I think that's it. I could keep tweaking forever!:lol: :lol: :lol: I've signed it and am going to try and get a pic of it in the daylight tomorrow. Will then submit a final entry!:clap:

Marcia has bullied me into doing another project, so if you're interested... maybe a toddler this time..:lol: :lol: :lol: Hey! I'm no dummy... I know a good thing when I find one... and you are the greatest. Not only super talented, but a great teacher! I've already been looking in the RIL and I think I've found a few contenders for the next project.:D however, I'm willing to give you a break. This time of year gets pretty nutty for most of us. How about after the New Year? Would that work for you, Bruce? I think this format worked great and I agree about all of us using the same reference again. I also have a few other suggestions that I'll check with you about later. Let me know how you feel about it...

and as always THANKS!!!
Marcia

*Violet*
12-10-2006, 10:21 PM
Thank you very much bruce, li, and marcia ... !! .... i might just bite a bullet and try the blending suggestion, bruce ... by top right corner do you mean making that corner only darker blue? or almost across the top of the page but down moreso on the right? ... and the green ... a medium green to just above the shoulder? ... as for the hair, marcia ... it was causing me a lot of grief until near the end if you check my earlier pieces !!! ... :lol: ... turning green in places ... looking red/pink in places ... but i think it covered well with tamer colours ...:D ... and as for a likeness ... i will admit straight out that i used photo manipulating software to create the outline i worked from ... tho i guess it is possible to lose it when painting... so thank you very much !! ... in the end i'm pretty pleased with it and feel good that others like it too ... well, bruce ... i did a mock up with a paint program to see if i grasped what you meant ... how would something like this work? ...
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Dec-2006/46454-julie_wip_10_xsm_w_bkgrd.JPG

binkie
12-10-2006, 10:23 PM
Bruce, your finished Julie is simply extraordinary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

I am having trouble keeping up with each individual portrait, so will just say that the completed Julie's are all great! I just love seeing all the different interpretations. This is such a wonderful project. :clap: :clap:

Bruce, thank you so very much. You have been a wonderful instructor and I have learned so much. This is the first portrait I've done that actually looks like an actual person. Although I know my portrait attempt could be much better, I am happy with what I have accomplished so far under your patient direction.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

binkie:wave:

pequan
12-10-2006, 11:16 PM
Wow is all I can say Bruce.... your portrait of Julie is magnificant.....and because of looking at yours, I of course, had to go back and touch up mine, even though it was signed....the eyes were still bothering me, and after looking at your work, I figured it out and went ahead and fixed mine and I will say it looks much better!!, but I am not going to post it, I have done enough of that........ never could have done it without you!! again THANKS
Binki, Violet, Marcia and Rose you are all doing so well......AMAZING STUFF...

Striver
12-11-2006, 02:56 AM
Hello all
Just another quick browse thro no time to hang around and enjoy myself with all your talent. Spent a little time on mine but ended up in the fast lane of life. Been taken over by Aliens I think. So will call mine done as is altho unfinished I feel. Will take photo tomorrow and post as the final.
Bruce and all, it's been great and have learned a lot, count me in for next project whatever, new year of course. Expect to be away for most of Jan and hopefully can sign in when I can.
Many thanks Bruce, will have a beer for you as I sail thor the Tamaki Strait. Tui or DB perhaps both.
Cheers all, enjoy Xmas and the season
Ho Ho Ho
Les

*Violet*
12-11-2006, 03:05 AM
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I'M DONE! (I hope)
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/81946/tn_completedJulieproject.jpg

nicely done pequan ! ... the treatment of her hair is very nice ... good job on the ear and earring too ... i understand you did more and you said you weren't going to post again ... but you *must* !!! ... post in the *post final images* part !! ... we've all got to get into that gallery and we'll miss you !!!

*Violet*
12-11-2006, 03:18 AM
out of curiousity, bruce ... has julie been following these? ... what is she thinking of having herself immortalized on wetcanvas! ?

AnnieA
12-11-2006, 01:09 PM
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even tho i've signed it ...
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/46454/tn_julie_wip_10_sm.JPG

Wow! This is just terrific, Violet!!! :clap::clap::clap:

You clearly have a talent for portraiture. The likeness is excellent - Bruce was right when he said you really captured that pixie look of Julie's. Good job! You ought to do more portraits.


...and a question :D for Bruce: As it looks like most people have now completed the painting, how will you be handling the stragglers (like me) who haven't had time to work on this in a bit? Will we still be able to get feedback from you, or are you calling this thread finished?

bruce johnson
12-11-2006, 06:00 PM
:wave: :wave: Morning guys, thanks for all the nice comments.. :clap:


Annie. I will keep the Project going until everyone has finished so no panic.. :thumbsup:

I'm contemplating doing another portrait project in the New Year, it will be a portrait of a toddler (small child). So if anyones interested let me know.. or if you have another idea for a project.. :thumbsup:

A Tui would be perfect Les.. after 20 years in the RNZN I know the Rangitoto Channel backwards.. and all the surrounding fishing spots.. OMG waves of nostalgia :lol: :lol:

Violet.. Julie lives in NZ, she doesn't get onto the internet, but she is coming to stay with us in Feb, I'll walk her through the project then.. :wave: I just saw your final update and its super, the background looks great. :clap: :clap:

Linda... you have to post in the final update... or I'll come looking for you.... :lol: :lol:

You're very welcome binkie.. hope you didn't get too much dust in your fur...:lol:

And Marcia.. you're very welcome.. I've enjoyed doing the project so thanks for the idea, :clap: :clap:

Pat Isaac
12-11-2006, 06:08 PM
Thanks so much for continuing this to the end and I'm sure I will be the end. Absolutely no time this month and we will be away for a few weeks at the end of the month into the first few days of Jan.
You have done an amazing job on this project.

Pat

bruce johnson
12-11-2006, 06:14 PM
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MY JULIE
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/completed/81946/tn_FINAL.jpg

Hi LInda... you've done so well with this portrait, I originally had some misgivings about the diffuculty of the ref, but everyone has tackled it in their own way and stamped their own individuality on the portrait. I think that in the future I will just select first class ref images and not worry about the level of artist as you all rise to the challenge and grow as artists. I know you definitely have. My advice to you now is to practice your drawing accuracy and you will step up another level again.. keep a pencil and pad with you at all times and when you have a spare moment draw something, anything... 30 minutes a day. the doctor orders...:lol: :clap:

bruce johnson
12-11-2006, 06:16 PM
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Julie by Violet
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/completed/46454/tn_julie_wip_11_sm.JPG

Yip it works Violet, great job... :clap: :clap: you could even go deeper in the corner with the pthalo blue if you wanted, but its fabulous... :clap: :clap: :clap:

bruce johnson
12-11-2006, 06:22 PM
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Progress?
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/34440/tn_JULIE_PROJ_NEAR_DONE_121006.jpg

HI binkie.. both backgrounds look good, the portrait gets a little lost in all the blue coz your skin tones are a little on the cooler side .. I would add some lemon yellow to the area in the front of the face and then blend it all in... great job though.:clap: :clap:

PaintingMum
12-12-2006, 07:35 AM
I'm contemplating doing another portrait project in the New Year, it will be a portrait of a toddler (small child). So if anyones interested let me know.. or if you have another idea for a project..

Hi Bruce,

Count me in on a toddler portrait.

Thanks,
Jaana

pequan
12-12-2006, 09:28 AM
thank you Bruce a pencil a day will keep the doctor away???? hahahah I will practice........count me in on the toddler portrait too....

Piper Ballou
12-12-2006, 10:01 AM
The new pastels have finally arrived and I have some watercolor paper, so will get restarted on Julie this weekend....even though I am not posting a lot I am still following everyone's progress.....great portraits
piper

*Violet*
12-12-2006, 10:08 AM
again ... great job on hosting this project bruce !! ... i too look forward to the next and doing a toddler ... that would be a great experience indeed .. and again to everyone's efforts doing julie ... great jobs ... !! ... so interesting to see the individuality in them ... there's something to glean from each one i think ... everyone should feel proud of their accomplishments ... and many thx for the lovely comments on mine ... they were truly appreciated ...

Alecto
12-12-2006, 03:37 PM
I haven't finished my Julie yet, but you can put me on the list for toddler. Thanks for all the hard work, Bruce!

bock
12-12-2006, 07:26 PM
I just went back to catch up and they all look fabulous! :clap:
Looks like many are finished so have some catching up to do. Hope to finish mine tonight. Well, are we ever finished?

Bruce, I agree toddlers are a great challenge. It's difficult not to age them and get that soft delicate skin. I would also be up for that one. Thanks, hope you have been enjoying this as much as we have.
Pat

bruce johnson
12-13-2006, 12:23 AM
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Making progress
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/45744/tn_Img_1068.jpg%28600%29.jpg

Excellent job Pat.....:clap: :clap: beautifully rendered hair.. and the tonal range is great.... my only critique would be the back teeth seem slightly large and don't quite follow the upper jaw line.. they should dip slightly... very small thing though... :thumbsup: top job all round:clap: :clap:

bruce johnson
12-13-2006, 12:26 AM
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JULIE DONE?
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/34440/tn_JULIE_DONE_121206.jpg

Yip you're done binkie.. time to sign it... fabulous effort.. and I'll see next year in the toddler project... :clap: :clap:

bruce johnson
12-13-2006, 12:31 AM
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Julie 2
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/82968/tn_julie_2.jpg

Hi Paul the structure of the hair looks very good... although tonal values are very much on the high (dark) side.... I would add some lemon yellow or cool yellow to the hair to give it more punch...note how the sun touches certain areas of the head like a sphere in light... try to indicate the sperical shape of the head by using tonal value in the hair... going well... :clap: :clap:

bock
12-13-2006, 01:02 AM
I see what you mean. Boy, missed that completely. Don't know if I can fix it but will try. Hope I don't put gaps between them. What about the nose? I had lots of trouble there. Don't know if it's the shadows around it or the colors on the tip but something seems off.
Thanks Bruce you are wonderful to be so encouraging yet pushing for more.
Pat

bruce johnson
12-13-2006, 01:53 AM
Hi Pat haven't you heard the saying that 'behind every successful woman stands a man'.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :evil:


The nose looks fine, but I would like to see you push the dark inside Julies left eye a little more... start very gently with some burnt sienna and then add tiny bits of blue violet to gradually cool the hue to the value.. the effect you are looking for is shadow that you can see into..

*Violet*
12-13-2006, 02:46 AM
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Making progress
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/45744/tn_Img_1068.jpg%28600%29.jpg

nice job all around ... esp the hair tho ...

bock
12-13-2006, 10:14 AM
Hi Violet. Thank you. :wave:
Bruce, I think I learned that saying differently, but like yours much better!:lol:
Thanks, will try to use your advice to the best of my abilities.:lol:
Pat

bruce johnson
12-13-2006, 06:12 PM
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daylight pic
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/45744/tn_Img_1070.jpg%28600%29.jpg

I love this portrait Pat.. I quite like the background so don't change it too dramatically... :clap: :clap:

bock
12-14-2006, 12:43 AM
Thanks Bruce, I know it can be better but it may be one of those "with something funny about the mouth" portraits. :lol: I worked a little tonight but still see it's not right so will take a break. Changed the background some.

Have our "Winter Celebration of the Arts" tomorrow night at school so won't get a chance to get back to it until Friday or Saturday.

Thanks for all the help. How do we get so blinded?? Mouths are always a problem for me.
Pat

bruce johnson
12-14-2006, 01:45 AM
Hi Pat...don't appraoch it as a mouth, just imagine the teeth are shapes that you are arranging.. you'll be surprised how much easier it becomes... :thumbsup:

binkie
12-14-2006, 01:53 AM
Thanks again so much, Bruce! When I stare at my Julie portrait which I set on the hearth I see a number of things that aren't quite right. If I have a few minutes to spare in the next few weeks I am going to fix them.

I'll be there for the toddler project. I'm looking forward to it!

binkie

paul444
12-14-2006, 11:29 AM
Hi Bruce,
Just caught up on reading all the posts so far. You sure have put a lot of time and effort into this project and I would personally like to thank you.
I hope you have enjoyed it as much as we have.
Well done to everyone, some great portraits here. I hope mine comes up to these high standards.
Just to let everyone know this is me.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Dec-2006/82968-paul.jpg

bruce johnson
12-14-2006, 05:53 PM
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JULIE FINISHED ... AGAIN
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/34440/tn_JULIE_EL_FIN_121306.jpg

Yip time to leave this one alone binkie and move onto another portrait of your own choice... employ all the things you've learnt from this portrait and discover your own methods as well. Try new things. don't just rely on what I've said, discover why things work and don't work, especially color theory, understanding colour temperature has been the greatest step forward for me.. I've always been able to draw after a fashion, but adding colour to the drawing has really kick started my career in art..

I've had a blast with this project and learnt a lot about what artists see when they look at a subject... I've discovered that not everyone sees the same thing.. sure the subject is identical but some artists see more than others and interpret things differently... hence one of the reasons why all the portraits have come out differently..

The enthusiasm you guys have shown on this project have really given me food for thought and I'm thinking that I'd like to continue in a teaching role and may look at providing art instruction locally.. Oh dear another poor artist with the b*m hanging out of his pants.. :lol: :lol:

Keep growing.. :thumbsup: :clap:

bruce johnson
12-14-2006, 06:19 PM
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trying
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/45744/tn_Img_1091.jpg%28600%29.jpg

Ok.. put your hands in the air and step away from painting.. .:lol: :lol: you've got the mouth spot in.. yahoooo:clap: :clap:

What I do now at this stage is step back and look for things that would enhance the 3D image... I study all my edges and check the ones away from the face and see if they are too hard and crisp.. I notice on your painting the the lines of the shoulders have a strong focus... I would sroften these a tad, particuarly the furterest shoulder. I also brush some backgound colour into my hair at the back to fade it in a little.. with the lighter halo effect you have in your background this wouldn't work but its something to try in the future.. great job on the hair ... awesome portrait...:clap: :clap: :clap:

binkie
12-14-2006, 07:28 PM
Thanks for the advice, Bruce. I really need to spend time learning color theory as it's still somewhat of a mystery to me. You'll make a great teacher - go for it.

HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO YOU AND YOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BINKIE

lisilk
12-14-2006, 09:14 PM
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trying
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/45744/tn_Img_1091.jpg%28600%29.jpg

I agree with Bruce! Step away, she's perfect. Well done!:clap: :clap: :clap:

bock
12-15-2006, 09:33 PM
Yeah!! Thanks Li and Bruce. I posted my final image.
Hi Paul, nice to meet you.
Will watch for the toddler project and join everyone again for more fun.
Happy Holidays to all!:wave:

Pat

bruce johnson
12-17-2006, 05:37 PM
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Almost There
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/83008/tn_Julie7a.jpg

Beautiful Job Arleenie.. the skin tones are excellent... and the blending on the face is perfect.... my only critique is the fine strands of hair at the back of the head should be a little softer than the hair in the fringe at the front. This gives a more 3D effect... The likeness is good, you may have made Julie a little fatter in the face..I like the colour of the shirt it blends in better with the portrait... great job..
:clap: :clap: :clap:

Alecto
12-21-2006, 01:59 PM
I posted my drawing in the Gallery Exhibit section. It's not finished, but I found myself getting angry with it, so I took a step back, told myself it's just practice, and decided that I'm not going to work on it anymore. Period. I've chalked the whole thing up to experience (worthwhile experience!) and am now taking a break and patiently awaiting the next Pastel Challenge (if you decide to do it, Bruce -- no pressure). I consider it to be a laudable -- if incomplete -- effort for a first pastel portrait.

Thanks for your help, Bruce. Even if it's not done, I wouldn't have made it this far without your help. Kudos!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/index.php?cmd=view_image&entry_id=57673

*Violet*
12-21-2006, 06:14 PM
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not finished, but I am
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/completed/88719/tn_pastel.jpg
i think you're very hard on yourself ... overall, i think you did really well ... portraits are definitely within your grasp ... this one had difficult areas to work with and that's what it was all about ... you should feel very proud of your final piece !! :clap:

bruce johnson
12-21-2006, 08:00 PM
Hi Alecto .. I don't agree with your criticism of your portrait, I think you've done a great job.. probably the only small thing I agree with is the eyes are a little to dark and sinister.. this would be easily fixed by deepening the shadow inside the eye sockets to push the eyes back more.. I think the hair looks realistic and a little complementary colours reds, greens and blues, would make it shine..

Your skin tones and modelling of the face are amongst the best of the project submissions... top job... :clap: :clap: :clap:

and you're very welcome:wave: :thumbsup:

Jo Castillo
12-21-2006, 10:17 PM
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not finished, but I am
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/completed/88719/tn_pastel.jpg

This is very good. The colors are right on for the skin. As you say it is only practice, but you did well. See you on another project. Good work.
Jo

Alecto
12-22-2006, 06:40 PM
Thank you Violet, I wrote my comments to the final portrait in a fit of irritation. I feel a little better about it now. :)

Thanks so much for the words of encouragement, Bruce. The eyes were probably the main reason I stopped. I would draw to define their shape, then draw to define their shadows, then draw to define their highlights, then step back and realize that in the process, I had lost the original shape. So I'd step back in and draw to define their shape, then draw to define ... well ... you get the picture. The eye area has so much pastel that it won't lay down anymore.

I think my big issue is that I have trouble finding sharp spots on the pastels that will do details. Just when I think I've found a sharp bit and attempt to use it, the bulk of the pastel obscures my positioning of the sharp bit on the paper and I end up with a line 1/4" from where I intended to put it. You should have seen me drawing this thing -- you would have laughed. I don't know how many times I positioned myself so that I was looking at the paper edge-on to ensure that the sticky-outiest part of the pastel touched the paper at the right angle to prevent unintentionally wide and displaced lines. My medium of choice is graphite, and I was really bemoaning the lack of a needle-sharp point on these things. It was like trying to thumb through a book while wearing oven mitts -- there's no way you're going to end up on the right page. I know that you can sharpen pastels, but I tried to do that with sandpaper and ended up rubbing for long minutes without making the sticks appreciably pointier. All I had when I was done were seemingly monstrous piles of (expensive) pastel dust and much shorter sticks. Is it easier to find a sharp bit on square-shaped sticks? I can't be the only one with this problem, right? :o

Thanks Jo, I'll be back for more punishment later. See you there. :)

Striver
12-23-2006, 02:10 PM
Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year all, thank you for your company in 06
Peace and enjoyment to you all
Les

Arleenie
12-24-2006, 03:16 AM
It has been such a busy few weeks, I finished a watercolor I was doing for a Christmas present, so hope to get my pastel finished next week. Hope you all have a VERY Merry Christmas and a Wonderful Prosperous Happy New year!!!!!:wave:
Arleenie

bruce johnson
01-07-2007, 06:13 PM
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Hair done
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/61532/tn_Hair800x600.jpg

Hi Stu

A great start on the hair and yes its starting to look like hair...it still requires some work on the value range... if you numbered your values from 1 -10 where 1 is pure white highlight and 10 is the darkest black, you have only used value ranges from about 2 -6. In the ref image the values in the hair range from 2 to 9... you need to push your darks more... take some ultramarine blue deep or pthalo blue.. and lay it into the darkest areas (ie the hair parting) .. just use a little bit as it is quite an intense colour... blend some burnt umber into the blue just to warm it up a little.. value should stay in the 8 -9 range and gradually reduce to 5-6 as the hair moves into the light...Follow my steps on the project forum and you will see what I mean..

Going well so far... :thumbsup:

bruce johnson
01-09-2007, 11:11 PM
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Almost done
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/83008/tn_Julie8B1.jpg

This looks great Arleenie., I wish I had painted the top brown it looks so much better.. skin tones and shadows are awesome... well done.... :clap: :clap: Post in final images now... :thumbsup:

bruce johnson
01-30-2007, 04:12 AM
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Getting to the end?
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/33616/tn_juljan2.jpg

HI Deirdre sorry for delay in getting back to you on this one... excellent portrait and very interesting to see you use Wallis paper...

My observations are ...

Eyes are excellent... well done..

Hair is great... be careful using dark tones for individual strands of hair as they stand out and look stark...

skin tones are beautiful. and very well rendered..

Shadows are a little cool under the chin and there should be a little more reflected light on Julies jaw..
The shadows under the hair line should be a little warmer as well, tending to wards red violet...

The shirt is probably a bit too dark and some lighter areas would help to make it look more natural

An outstanding job though... post it in the final images and be very proud of yourself... :clap: :clap: :clap: :thumbsup:

Jo Castillo
01-30-2007, 01:57 PM
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Getting to the end?
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/33616/tn_juljan2.jpg

Diedre,
Very nice. The eyes and the teeth "sparkle" for me. You should be pleased with your results.
Jo

DavidF
02-06-2007, 09:35 AM
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http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/2718/tn_Prog02Hair.jpg


Hi,

If there is still anyone out there, I've joined the project a little late! (ie everyone else seems to have finished). I am taking the 'unlimited' entry timescale literally. I hope to get feedback, but if not I shall still proceed and try to learn from existing comments to other offerings.

I have dabbled on-and-off (more off than on) for a few years, but apart from a fair amount of pen and ink line drawing and some painting in acrylics, I've never got down to much specific. However, I have just signed up to a couple of portraiture classes and hope to develop accordingly, or at least have fun!

Hope to here from someone, :wave:

Regards, DavidF

*Deirdre*
02-06-2007, 12:07 PM
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Getting to the end?
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/33616/tn_juljan2.jpg

HI Deirdre sorry for delay in getting back to you on this one... excellent portrait and very interesting to see you use Wallis paper...

My observations are ...

Eyes are excellent... well done..

Hair is great... be careful using dark tones for individual strands of hair as they stand out and look stark...

skin tones are beautiful. and very well rendered..

Shadows are a little cool under the chin and there should be a little more reflected light on Julies jaw..
The shadows under the hair line should be a little warmer as well, tending to wards red violet...

The shirt is probably a bit too dark and some lighter areas would help to make it look more natural

An outstanding job though... post it in the final images and be very proud of yourself... :clap: :clap: :clap: :thumbsup:
Thank you Bruce...but I'm really embarrassed! I brushed her hair off...and forgot to put it back!!:o :o :o :o I'll rectify that shall I?:lol:

Jolanta
02-06-2007, 12:25 PM
Dee - I love what you did here and you should finish this. Her eyes are so beautiful. They are sparkling:thumbsup: :clap: Love skin tones too:D
Put the hair back. This is too good to leave it unifinished:)
Jolanta

bruce johnson
02-06-2007, 05:40 PM
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Hair Pt1
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/2718/tn_Prog02Hair.jpg

Hi David....this is a very good start,,, I love the great use of colours in the hair... it shows that although the hair is actually straw blonde you can use reds, blues and greens to bring the hair to life and make it shine.

One thing to be aware of is the tonal value of the hair... look at the ref image and see how the light strikes the hair... imagine the hair is a sphere and adjust your values and highlights to show the shape and form of the head... This is done by pushing your darks and punching your highlights..

Great work so far:clap: :thumbsup:

DavidF
02-07-2007, 01:03 PM
Bruce,
Thanks for your advice. I'm not absolutely sure what you mean by 'punching' the highlights, but I think I get the general idea. And thanks for your welcome in the PM. I shall now study your post no 188, and wait at least until tomorrow for daylight, before moving on.
Thank you so much.
Regards, David

bruce johnson
02-12-2007, 01:46 AM
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Julie - first shot at neck and shoulders
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/1072/progress/2718/tn_Prog4Dwg.jpg

Hi David

Interesting idea to paint in the roll neck and the cardigan.. not sure it goes with the bright sunny day... :) Julie would be feeling the heat I'd say...

Ok.... the painting so far.. you need to study up on warm and cool colours, particularly yellows... and how they give impact to a painting when laid down side by side.. A warm yellow tends towards red (more orangey) and a cool yellow tends towards green.. for outdoor shots I generally use a cool yellow for the highlights and a warm yellow for the skin tones that are in shadow. To get the correct shadow colour I add the complementary colour to the yellow base... Depending on the temperature of the shadow I will add either red violet or blue violet..
Varying colour temperature will also help in creating a 3D effect...cool colours come forward and warm colours recede...

The tonal values you have on the face need more variation to create a 3D effect. When I use the term punch.. for highlights.. I mean add white or similar value to indicate strong light hitting the surface..

Teeth.. .. its very important to draw the teeth accurately otherwise the personality of the mouth will change... study Julies teeth closely and see how they interact with each other, I don't draw in the gaps in the teeth as it draws to much attention to the mouth, I prefer to have the viewer look at the eyes..

Its a very good attempt first time up, I'd like to see you join in more of the portrait projects and get more experience.. as my mentor tells me practice practice ...practice.. and when my fingers are bleeeding practice some more.. :lol:

Cheers Bruce