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Lady Carol
11-05-2006, 11:07 AM
Hi all - your new week's version of the thread for your uploads, viewings, comments - whatever!

Jimmy57
11-06-2006, 06:54 PM
I decided to copy a Picasso picture that I came across in a magazine as a break from trying to create my own masterpiece.

I started by making a photocopy and putting a grid on it to transfer the image to my canvas (12 x 16).

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Nov-2006/77564-Picasso_Grid_1_1.jpg

When I did this, I gained a new respect for just what a genius Picasso was. This may be "duh" stuff to other people but I was amazed at how everything lined up perfectly, all the curves moved seamlessly from one part of the picture to the next, etc. It was a real lesson for me.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Nov-2006/77564-Picasso_1_1_1.jpg

Here is the finished copy. I was amazed at just how much I had learned about mixing paints to try to match the original colours, how each of my brushed functioned, etc., etc. I now understand a little better why the traditional art schools had students copy the old masters. It was a great learning experience for me. So much so that I am scouting around for another picture to copy to see how much I can learn from my next project.

gnu
11-07-2006, 01:22 AM
cool idea, I might just have to do my fave as well! thanks for the inspiration, I love your masterpiece!!

gnu
11-07-2006, 02:05 AM
am having soooooo much fun making paint skins! I have paintings surplus, so I am playing....I will be applying the skins to designs similar to this...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Nov-2006/7242-IMG_7435_kaikoura_semi_abstract.jpg
Here's the first skin, this is the side with the white layer on top of the stripes
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Nov-2006/7242-allgator_stripe_skin_a.jpg
Thes best side, I applied the white ontop of the Atelier stripes(with binder added) and they wiggled and puckered! wow, what a neat unexpected effect.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Nov-2006/7242-alligator_stripe_skin_b.jpg
This was applie with knife in a pattern of pastel colours,
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Nov-2006/7242-blue_streak_skin_a-1.jpg
The flip side with bluesmingling together as applied with knife..
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Nov-2006/7242-blue_streak_skin_b-1.jpg
Strong stripes this is the white layer side...
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Nov-2006/7242-raimbow_skin_a-1.jpg
Here's the effect on first layer after applying white...
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Nov-2006/7242-rainbow_skin_b-1.jpg
Here's an awesome one, makes me think of Xmas and snow and sky..only side worth looking at...still drying...
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Nov-2006/7242-snow_sky_a.jpg

Marge Wms
11-08-2006, 10:01 AM
Wow, what a glorious effect in the skins... I would never have thought of that! Good going! Marge

gnu
11-08-2006, 02:06 PM
thanks Marge, it's amazing what you find to learn here, I don't believe it ever stops! welcome to WC, and I am glad acrylics is your fave medium, it's my preferred one also, with Coloured pencil a close second but too time consuming to pursue as actively

tamiboo
11-08-2006, 07:06 PM
Here is my latest, it is a 20"x24" painted with a knife. Has some deatil work yet to be done and the water fall still needs alot of work.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.:wave:



http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Nov-2006/9848-setrockcreekfalls.jpg

wintersrose
11-08-2006, 09:47 PM
Gil - Wow, I especially like that last skin! It definitely looks like a perfect basis for a snow scene. Very enchanting yet realistic feeling.

Tami - very nice so far. From the image on my screen it gives me the feel of an impasto.

Jimmy57 - I can appreciate your enthusiasm for copying the masters' works. In a class of mine in college we were required to choose a painting from a book and create a pointillistic version of it. I wasn't sure if I would like it but to this day it remains one of my favorites and I intend to do another in a similar style. Your's looks very good, by the way!

Jackie339
11-08-2006, 09:54 PM
Tami, I love it . I like impasto too. Are you very attachted to the bent tree? It just bothers me that it makes an X with the other tree. That's all I would change.

tamiboo
11-09-2006, 08:00 AM
Tami, I love it . I like impasto too. Are you very attachted to the bent tree? It just bothers me that it makes an X with the other tree. That's all I would change.


Thanks Jackie for the input. I am in the process of seeing what it looks like without that leaning tree and I think it is going to work out better....
Tami

Beautiful_Butterflies_Studio
11-09-2006, 08:58 AM
I would like to ask a question - how do people feel about using grids to transfer images???
I have always used this, and a few days ago was "attacked" (this is been nice about it) for using such a device. I never felt bad about it, but I was told this isn't a true artist's tool - just an "imitator's tool".
(please forgive me if this has been asked before)
I would just like to know your oppinion (sp?)
Thanks
Firehorse Australia

gnu
11-09-2006, 02:11 PM
Tami, well done, knife is both easier and harder than a brush! I like the leaning tree, perhaps, without it the painting would be a little more ordinary....???
Fire, it is always an advantage to be able to draw well in art, however what ever means you have to get the outlines onto canvas then paint is OK IMHO.
and using a grid to re check is a good idea for faces I would think...Ann Kullburg uses lines to check features of a face from the reference, If you want a true likeness, it's pretty good as a guide. Anyway, weren't some of the Masters meant to have used light projection to get their outlines/features.? same thing.
What I have found though, is if you draw freehand sometime, even if it isn't good, you never know what may come of it, an offbeat series even :)

wintersrose
11-09-2006, 03:25 PM
I would like to ask a question - how do people feel about using grids to transfer images???
I have always used this, and a few days ago was "attacked" (this is been nice about it) for using such a device. I never felt bad about it, but I was told this isn't a true artist's tool - just an "imitator's tool".

I think art is what you make of it and is intended to be a form of individual expression which should not be limited by "shoulds" & "should nots" or what someone else believes is right or wrong. In my opinion, if a work of art in the end fulfills the artist's intentions or desires, then the means of creating it are unimportant.

I, personally have done drawings both with and without using a grid and find a grid to be a very useful tool when accuracy is important. Creating and using a grid is one of the very first lessons taught in my college drawing classes!

I don't think it is fair to criticize how another creates art or even what the end result is. I've seen some things that were considered "great works of art" that I personally don't see fit to shake a stick at, but it is considered art nonetheless. Regardless of what I think, it is a form of self expression and I try not to judge whether it is right or wrong. Each person has his or her own idea of what art is, and just because something may not fall into one person's specifications, this does not mean that it is not art.

There are many methods used by artists which may be greatly contested....Photoshop, for example. I think it is a great tool to use for composition and creating certain effects that one may want to use as a reference. However, I'm sure there are many people out there who feel that this is "cheating" because it does not fall under their qualifications for how art should be approached. That is neither here nor there, but their opinions would not stop me from using it as a tool for what I wish to create.

Anyway, I don't mean to ramble on or step on anyone's toes...just trying to express my point of view so that you know that not everyone in the artistic community feels the same as this person you mentioned. Hope it helps! Don't get discouraged! :clap:

Jimmy57
11-09-2006, 04:04 PM
I would like to ask a question - how do people feel about using grids to transfer images???
I have always used this, and a few days ago was "attacked" (this is been nice about it) for using such a device. I never felt bad about it, but I was told this isn't a true artist's tool - just an "imitator's tool".
(please forgive me if this has been asked before)
I would just like to know your oppinion (sp?)
Thanks
Firehorse Australia

Whoever said this to you is an art snob. How DARE they criticize your creative process?

Thus began my long rant. As you can see from my Picasso above, I used a grid to transfer the outline to my canvas. Sometimes I use a grid, other times a value drawing (or is that cheating too? :evil: ). But, rather than go on and on with my rant, I will just give you a line from a book I am reading:

"(Kandinsky) and his fellow founders of Der Blaue Reiter....... were united by a sense that the artist should have free rein to find whatever form suited his or her need for self-expression." Thus, if it is good enough for Kandinsky to do whatever he wanted, it is good enough for the rest of us to do things our own way and to heck with art snobs!

Jimmy57
11-09-2006, 04:10 PM
And another thing.............

No, I won't rant again. However, the book I quoted from is one I picked up from the bargain table at Chapters Books called "Modern Art". It has about 200 two page spreads, one per artist and covers most of the 20th century modern artists. I have at least 20 pictures bookmarked to revisit to try to develop my own picture in a similar style. This book really gave a boost to my creative ideas.

tubbekans
11-09-2006, 04:20 PM
It's looking really good Tami! I am just not good at knife work, I can't even seem to cut butter straight. :o Just a few thots for you. On my monitor, it seems like the yellow hightlights are kind of all very similar values in the foreground and background at the moment. They kind of grab my attention and don't let me look back into the forest easily. So, if it was me, I might wipe a little blue tint over the far background by the head of the falls and see if it helps the area recede some. There's lots of good motion and action in the waterfall. I like your big rocks up front too. Just a thot from a tired stinker. I mean thinker. Geez. :)

Jimmy,
I totally agree with you, do what you need to do to get started. A drawing is just the start after all, the fun is in the painting. You might like to check out the oil forum for ideas on master paintings to copy also. They have a thread called MOM for master of the month. Some one picks a couple paintings by a master and the other artists paint it. Course they are working in oils but you might enjoy looking at the paintings they choose. There is usually a write up of the master's history and style presented also. If you did decide to do one in acrylics, you could always post it over here.

Recent MOM link on Modigliani (sp?)
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=368064&page=15

stevenbg
11-09-2006, 06:07 PM
Here's one that I started (actually re-started) this morning.
I had started it last week, but didn't like how it was going, so I gessoe'd over it and started again.
I used a different approach this time, and did a contour drawing first, followed by a neutral gray made of ultramarine and burnt umber.
I think I'm ready to start putting some color on it now.
So far, I like this version much better than the last, and have a good feeling about it.

"Pittman Jewelers"
16X20 acrylic on canvas.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Nov-2006/38431-IMG_2093small.JPG

wintersrose
11-09-2006, 06:38 PM
Jimmy & Paul-Thank you so much for sharing your sources for masterworks. I think it is always fascinating to see the work of others and also a great learning tool.

Steve-great start on this, I think it will be a wonderful painting. The detail in your underpainting is fantastic!

tamiboo
11-10-2006, 02:22 AM
Here is my latest, it is a 20"x24" painted with a knife. Has some deatil work yet to be done and the water fall still needs alot of work.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.:wave:



http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Nov-2006/9848-setrockcreekfalls.jpg


Here is an update on the progress of this one...I did some work on the trees and the waterfall, added the bush in the foreground and hopefully pushed some of the trees further in the back ground.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Nov-2006/9848-setrockcreekfalls1.jpg

Beautiful_Butterflies_Studio
11-10-2006, 05:56 AM
Jimmy57 - That is an amazing piece, think I might try a similar idea ;)

GNU - what exactly are "paint skins" and what do you do with them????

Tamiboo - WOW, what a beautiful painting this is becoming. I do have one thing that is bothering me... there is no water "colour" in the stream between the middle and bottom waterfalls, and it seems to look like the water is coming from underground in the bottom fall (hope that is as clear as mud???)

Thankyou for the advice about the gridding... makes me feel heaps better!

Steve - WOW, that is looking fabuluse (sp?) so far, looking forward to watching this progress.

Firehorse Australia

wintersrose
11-10-2006, 01:07 PM
Tami - This is looking great! Definitely an improvement. Great job receding the trees in the background. It has Sooooo much more depth now. I really like it! :thumbsup:

tubbekans
11-10-2006, 02:03 PM
Really quite an improvement Tami! There is definitly some nice depth to it now in the trees. The bush up front right is a nice addition too. The water does seem a little discontinuous between the falls and also after the bottom fall. I am sure you will figure out something to make to make it work though. Looking real good Tami!

You are welcome Rosalie :wave:

gnu
11-10-2006, 02:08 PM
Firehorse, here have a read, :) this is all about paint skins...
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Articles2/62215/588/

CSimchik
11-10-2006, 03:07 PM
Those that criticize seem to think they know everything about the arts...funny how it goes. Maybe someone who doesn't agree with using a grid is totally talented in the sketching of every detail and not so much in the details involved in the color placement. For one piece I did use a projector but have not thought it took away from my piece and the creative process of the details of color and shading.
Interesting but don't take it personally!

rmc
11-10-2006, 04:00 PM
Hi all - Gill, never heard of paint skins before - do they stay behind glass - can you lift them - so intrigued - love the effects you are getting.
Steve - I really like the feel of your street scene - maybe its the assymmetry in the perspective that makes it look particularly interesting - looking forward to the colour.
Jimmy, funny how people feel inclined to criticise drawing methods - when I first started I used to spend a whole day getting the sketch right- then I discovered that most people trying to get a really accurate 3 D image use a grid and that sped me up heaps to getting the image correct.
Once I started on faces I altered my grid to be focused on the features rather then a standardised grid to ensure I at least had the eyes/ nose / mouth aligned and most recently after doing exercises from Betty Edwards book, 'drawing on the right side of the brain' have been aiming to draw 100 faces freehand and am amazed at how much I have improved in the past month, sometimes drawing with images upside down.
So - very longwinded - but simply enjoy which ever and all methods - it's meant to be fun.

Patvk8
11-10-2006, 08:12 PM
wow, there sure are some talented people here at wc. Nice paintings everyone, and some very intersting info to boot.
Got some really good advice last week, so thought I'd post the update for any additional c & c's. It's an improvement I think, but still lacks something (talent perhaps :lol: ) so please point out anything obvious.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Nov-2006/89356-Img2613.JPG

nostalgia
11-11-2006, 10:51 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Nov-2006/76238-IMG_5073.JPG

First and last time I'm painting a glass. This is too difficult for me :( I like the grapes though..

gaykir
11-11-2006, 06:38 PM
Some great stuff !
Patvk8 - The changes work great. In the end I would just eliminate the barge on the left. It doesn't add anything. Your eye goes to too many places I think. But I love the skyline, the ferry and the foreground and the water is vastly improved!! Nice job.