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jageo
10-18-2006, 01:00 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Oct-2006/7674-mulder.jpg
This is my dog, Mulder. Illustrator CS2
My main goal with this one was to define the whole picture with shapes, and not rely on a top-most layer of line-work as I usually do (as I did here: http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5041240&postcount=26)

What I am missing is colour - the hidden, the unexpected colour. Sure..he's orange, so I put blues in the shadow areas, but I want to find the greens, the purples, the reds - the stuff that makes it come alive. Would love to know how to cut loose and get those colours in there.

What I like - his nose, his right eye, his left ear.
What I don't like - his fur on his right side of neck. I started to get fussy bits and made myself stop.

All critique/comments welcome.
JA

barryt
10-18-2006, 11:19 AM
I like it JA, though I don't know much about vectors so I'm no help. I'm not sure about the shape under the jaw? Could you add shapes of colors at low opacity so that the underlying color comes through?

LadyAlba
10-18-2006, 12:44 PM
Good job on this and I agree with Barry about the part under his chin. ;o)

TxAggieDarlin
10-18-2006, 01:53 PM
Very pretty. I don't know illustrator, so don't know what it is capable of as far as his fur. Can you just get a thin brush and work those colors in?

jageo
10-18-2006, 10:46 PM
I'm not sure about the shape under the jaw?
Without the original photo, I can see now that the shadow under his chin is irrelevant. Nothing else says "there should be a shadow here". So I'll knock that out to just the underside of his jaw. Thanks.

Could you add shapes of colors at low opacity so that the underlying color comes through?

That's how I've built the whole thing - so an emphatic yes! I think of it as digital watercolour - layers and layers of transparent washes.

This isn't my favourite example but Sargeant's style here (http://www.jssgallery.org/Paintings/Miss_Eden.htm) is my inspiration. The sleeves of her dress, or her hair are just what you're saying - shapes of colours at low (or varying) opacity.
But what is the secret to see those colours?

Can you just get a thin brush and work those colors in?
Yes, but not too thin - I don't want fussy hair.

Thanks folks; Let me try some stuff and I'll re-post
JA

jageo
10-22-2006, 10:10 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Oct-2006/7674-mulder2.jpg

I admit, it's not much, but I knew it just needed some splashes. I got some good advice in the watercolour forum. To find those colours, think of your subject under different lights - sunlight, fluorescent, incandescent - to help find where they might come out.
I think, too, that trying some filters in photoshop is an easy way to see then pop out. The coloured pencil always seems to find colours I had never thought were in there.
I reshaped the chin shadow as suggested, and also messed a bit with the backdrop to add a little dimension.
Anything else?

JA

justjean
10-23-2006, 03:07 AM
A beautiful dog and a lovely painting , I like the freedom you have acheived with this :)

barryt
10-23-2006, 05:28 AM
A good outcome, JA, excellent picture of a lovely dog

jhercilia
10-23-2006, 09:31 PM
It looks much much better now and the light effect on the background works really well.

JCoop
10-25-2006, 10:27 AM
Daaaaaawg! Nicely done Jageo. That's no easy feat in Illustrator.:thumbsup:

Maybe a touch of a catchlight in the eye?

jageo
10-25-2006, 12:26 PM
Thanks all.
Joel - can you explain the physics of the catch-light? Where does it catch from, and where...generally... does it appear?
JA

ArtofAndrewDaniel
10-26-2006, 03:01 AM
Nice clean illustrative presentation!

bluemoonstar
10-26-2006, 10:57 PM
Very nice! The background gradient really pops the image. I work in Illustrator, too. Only suggestion I have would be to reduce the redness of the right ear, back like the original, which I think is more harmonious with Mulder's the overall color.

KathyJB
11-14-2006, 12:38 AM
hey Jag this is very well done,
I saw your shadow today on my PM buddy list and had to track you down and say how far yopu have come with your talent, bravo GF

Kathy

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Oct-2006/7674-mulder.jpg
This is my dog, Mulder. Illustrator CS2
My main goal with this one was to define the whole picture with shapes, and not rely on a top-most layer of line-work as I usually do (as I did here: http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5041240&postcount=26)

What I am missing is colour - the hidden, the unexpected colour. Sure..he's orange, so I put blues in the shadow areas, but I want to find the greens, the purples, the reds - the stuff that makes it come alive. Would love to know how to cut loose and get those colours in there.

What I like - his nose, his right eye, his left ear.
What I don't like - his fur on his right side of neck. I started to get fussy bits and made myself stop.

All critique/comments welcome.
JA

jageo
11-14-2006, 10:44 AM
Kathy, you're too kind. But always nice to have you track me down now and then. ;) If you venture back this way, I would love your opinion from a watercolour point of view on the layers and washes.
BlueMoonStar - another Illustrator, hooray. Start posting. There's not nearly enough vector work around here :D
Thanks again all for looking and offering advice. Much appreciated
JA