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09-30-2006, 02:18 PM
Hi and welcome to week 40 of classical art journey!
Any media is welcome.
Show us what you've studied, worked on, classical traditional art.
Come and join us!

We had a blast last week. Lots of new people and places to see.

let's get going!

Who invented the fire hose?????

lol, of course this artist :D

Jan van der Heyden


Black Pig Inn



09-30-2006, 02:23 PM
The big news this week:

Jan van der Heyden (1637-1712), the greatest painter of cityscapes in the Golden Age of Dutch painting, from September 16, 2006, through January 10, 2007.


The exhibition Jan van der Heyden (1637 –1712) is the first monographic exhibition of Jan van der Heyden’s art to be mounted in seventy years and the first show ever in the United States.

Greenwich, Connecticut

09-30-2006, 02:26 PM
The catalog is sure to delight those looking for details on painting technique.



09-30-2006, 02:30 PM
For the classical rocker ;)



09-30-2006, 02:36 PM
A fork in the road, which way do you go?

turn to the left.........:)


Luminist Horizons: The Art and Collection of James Suydam (1819–1865)
September 14 – December 31, 2006


The first major exhibition in a quarter century to explore luminism in nineteenth-century American landscape painting, Luminist Horizons: The Art and Collection of James A. Suydam.

or turn to the right :)

July 5 – December 31, 2006


Italia! Muse to American Artists is an extraordinary visual journey by 51 American artists who have worked in Italy from the nineteenth through the twenty-first centuries.

09-30-2006, 02:45 PM




A story of a young man, an artist, who leaves his home and everything he knows in order to escape a world he no longer recognizes.

World Premiere


:wave: Nickel

10-01-2006, 02:37 PM
nickel :grouphug: what neat beginnings for our week!!!! thank you :heart: Whats everyone up to this week????? Im on countdown:evil: 30 days!!!!!! tyree

10-01-2006, 11:36 PM
Hello All,
Hi Tyree - I'm glad you liked the Rosetti drawings; I'm looking forward to seeing yours if that is still the plan.

I liked the peacocks last week. Not sure if I'll have time for a study this week but I did finish up this painting I've been dabbling on for a while for my wife. This was a just fun no stress painting, no critical details and no figures: hooray. Sort of inspired by this online painting lesson from John Hagan.


I'm sure the ornithologists will keel over at the flamingo anatomy. Looking forward to seeing evryone's work. Take care.

(Nickel - thanks for the hard work you put into starting these threads.)

10-02-2006, 09:50 AM
Hi, :)
29 days......I already can't wait for you to come back. Susan, make sure to take a diary to sketch or make notes for us. Photos good too. I am soooo excited for you. It's getting cool here and the dogwood trees are starting to change into their fall colors. Found my camera at last, hidding in the car. Now need to charge batteries.

Granby, nice water. Looks like late day. Bet your wife likes this painting very much.
Hagan has the best demos and instructions.
Thanks for the link.:thumbsup:

Since I've been in a landscape mood here is a nice exhibit on
John Constable



includes his sketches and has a download preview from the catalog.

How do you think the two compare? Jan van der Heyden to Constable to the Luminist? Which do you like better? Each are beautiful to me in their own way. Can you tell I like everyone to have their way :)


Talk about big, this is a six foot painting!!! Big for the orginal exhibit.

Hey Granby, can you see the pink flamingos in this painting?
You did good.


10-02-2006, 08:34 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Oct-2006/65063-rossetti_1.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Oct-2006/65063-rossetti_2.jpg dante gabriel rossetti ...sweet tooth...1828-1882....tyree

10-02-2006, 08:40 PM
hi all!!! Thank you granby for the lovely reference...as you can see i tried..didnt get the tilt of the head quite...or the satisfaction of eating chocolate look:p but it was fun....your painting is just wonderful...especially that water...wow!!!!! nickel...i think i like the pig pic better...not sure why...maybe the contrasting dark foreground and light sky....im so glad you found your camera...im on the search for one now!!!! im so excited:wink2: :wink2: :wink2: there are so many sites this week to check out..which one first:confused: tyree

10-02-2006, 11:27 PM
Susan you did good with the Rossetti, I like the blush on her cheeks, you gave her a sweet personality. Nice interpretation!!!
It's interesting about landscapes, I like them to have life (action) in them. Cows, pigs, water, all good. :)

10-03-2006, 07:09 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-Oct-2006/65063-winter_bird_2.jpg i did this one for the d/s this week...its mech pencil on smooth bristol..a little winter bird...:o thanks nickel...for your always kind comments...i wish i could have gotten her look a little better...maybe i should try it again sometime:( well..i have some pretty good news...i paid off my house!!! no more house payments:D now to check on some more of the neat sites you provided us ....i like that art cyclopedia....tyree

10-03-2006, 09:45 PM
Tyree - I think you did really well on the Rossetti sketch. The expression is really,really close. An expression like that is hard - in fact I'm suprised Dante pulled it off - he's really good at scary glares and more intense things. I always get the angle on heads wrong also - I straighten them up everytime. (I always thought it was a Freudian thing - there are many people in my life whose head I would like to straighten out. I'm sure they think the same of me though.) Sometimes if I'm trying to do it really well I just start on a piece of scrap paper so I can screw it up and get it over with.

A random thing I noticed recently in many great old paintings is that people always have their heads tilted and angled all over the place: its rather amusing to look for it. I don't think people do this in real life nearly as much.

Anyway - I like it - for whatever thats worth. Good bird also.

Nickel - I'm not sure which landscaper I like the best. (edit: landscaper is definitely not the right word ) I think I l lack the refinement necessary to appreciate a good landscape - maybe it will come someday. I'll vote for the last one with the cows because I like the flock of birds rising from the trees in the background.

(Thnks for the kind comments on the flamingo's everyone.)

10-03-2006, 10:13 PM
Susan, what a neat little winter bird. Looks just like one!!!!:thumbsup:



on paying off that last payment on the house

offical happy dance ;)


Granby, you rock, keep learning, so am I......what makes a good landscape?
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. :)

10-03-2006, 11:39 PM
speaking of bob dylan:D i use to debate a girl in high school on who would remain in immortality...bob dylan or wilson picket....i liked the wilson picket..."im going to wait till the midnight hour"....liked some of early dylan but not the later stuff at all...i was always the doors, and stones type:evil: tyree:p ps thank you guys for kind comments and thanks nickel for that rockin' baby..

Mony G
10-04-2006, 06:15 AM
Tyree...! the girl's expression is really much the same.. you were good in rendering that which isn't easy at all to do, although the head isn't tilting properly and thus the whole thing seems too stiff, I'm afraid,, but she has a shy look the original hasn't got, at least it seems to me she's even sweeter than Rossetti's!
I prefer the little bird , though, which seems so ready to fly away and so lively and sweet!

And Grandby's flamingos are really nice.. I love the ripples ... they are hard to do .. the J Hagan website is interesting too.. thanks !

Talking about expressions, I'm struggling myself with a face in a photograph my 13 year old daughter who studies graphics brought home from school the other day... it is a rather difficult homework and so I am trying to do my own version of it ... it's sort of challenge between me and her!
Face Expressions aren't easy at all!

Hope to put in something classical this week, but I am working on three drawings at the same time !

Good-bye for now

Mony G

10-05-2006, 07:57 AM
I haven't been doing much classical study but I did a quick study of a sailboat/catmaran on water from the WDE (a photo reference). I'll post it as we are looking at water and landscape.

This little work is representational just not what I'd call 'classical'...well maybe, I don't know really. :confused: Oils, 6 by 8 ins on canvas.

I had the reflections under the catamaran sharp at first but smudged them with my finger so they would not compete with the sail. Maybe I should have left them sharp? Anyway, just a preliminary sketch. I could go over it later or do it bigger, not sure which yet. Enough blethers....:lol:

Here it is.


:D I'm going to interact more fully with your previous posts in the next box, folks!!:wave:

10-05-2006, 08:14 AM
:thumbsup: What an interesting list of links to look at for us Nickel. I have never heard of Luminists..I'll need to check the link. I do admire the work of Dutch landsacpe artists like van der Heyden and also the English master Constable.

Constable's work is extremely impressive IRL. I saw a great big one in the Scottish National gallery a few years ago (before I took up painting). My mouth actually fell open when I looked at it. It was sooo good. I felt as if I was out there in his landsape, not in a dark old stuffy museum!! The clouds in particular were wonderful.

I need to look at those links you provided. Where do you get the time to do all the work??

Granby, I love the water in your flamingo study. Especially the feeling of sand under the nearest water waves. I haven't ventured into moving water yet! I like the flamingoes. Beautiful birds.

I also like the work of Rosetti and the pre-raphaelites. (Eclectic in taste. )

Tyree, your study of 'the sweet tooth' is wonderful. Especially the hands and mouth which look spot on to me. The tilted head is something I've never tackled.

Your little bird is gorgeous...is it a thrush?

Oh yes...great dancing baby, Nickel. Made me smile.:wave:

10-05-2006, 09:53 PM
hi all!!!! Mony is right...but not making the tilt of the head it does make for a stiff figure...oh well...i was pleased with the right hand...i usually end up with paws:evil: June...what wonderful reflections in that water...well done on the small figures too!!! the painting has an impressionists feel to me..which i love!!!! tyree:wave:

10-05-2006, 11:15 PM
Just wanted to make you all aware we have scheduled some server maintenence for tomorrow. We will likely be down for approx. 24 hours starting sometime after 10am (ET) tomorrow, Friday the 6th

This means eat ice cream, go shopping, sleep in, or paint......

I'll be looking for you all when we come back online. :wave:

10-05-2006, 11:21 PM
Lovely painting June, think I'll take a spin on the sail boat tomorrow!
Great colors!!!

Susan, you did do good with the hands, I meant to mention that too!:)

10-06-2006, 07:04 AM
I redid my catamaran in a larger size, 8 by 12 ins, to get more detail in the figures. Tyree, I think at the moment my landscapes are coming out kind of impressionist, because I don't want to do too much detail at this early stage of learning! (great excuse).

I think this kind of picture could be done using classical methods, e.g., underpainting in grisaille, and I might try that next time. Well, the sail was an excuse to use pure colours this time around. I'm at the 'finding my way' stage in landscapes.

See you all later:wave: :D
have a great weekend!!

10-06-2006, 07:04 AM
I redid my catamaran in a larger size, 8 by 12 ins, to get more detail in the figures. Tyree, I think at the moment my landscapes are coming out kind of impressionist, because I don't want to do too much detail at this early stage of learning! (great excuse).

I think this kind of picture could be done using classical methods, e.g., underpainting in grisaille, and I might try that next time. Well, the sail was an excuse to use pure colours this time around. I'm at the 'finding my way' stage in landscapes.

See you all later:wave: :D
have a great weekend!!

10-06-2006, 09:05 PM
June, you did this so fast!!!!! What medium are you using? And I love the colors, the water looks on fire, nice effect I think. Rich and bold, with a very nice view to the shore I think. True you could do this composition in a layer format but it would not have the same energy. I like it. You have the boat firmly sailing in the water. Good job!

10-07-2006, 04:30 PM
Hi Nickel, its oils. I use them in a sketchy fashion here. So fairly fast.

10-07-2006, 06:16 PM
Cool! I think it is good, and like I wrote, has energy. I think sometimes when I stress over a picture it winds up tired. Reminds me of a baby crying when it has been held too long and fussed over.
Here is one I did, not much fussing over, and it could have used a little more fussing.


She hangs on the frig next to the scales, that's why there is a tape measure. :D
I may exercise and firm her up sometime from her impression state.:p

10-07-2006, 10:07 PM
nickel....has a wonderful surreal feel..i like the mood she portrays...i wouldnt touch it!!!! i like it!!!! tyree

10-07-2006, 11:20 PM
lol, yep, She's moody! Thanks for making me smile. I know the more realistic people shake their heads. I do work at it. ;) I try not to shake it up too much.Rocks in the road.