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08-17-2006, 11:47 AM
This artist may not be that obscure (while getting ready to post this I discovered he has a whole page on wikipedia)- but I had never heard of him until recently:

Willem Drost - Dutch Painter and student of Rembrandt:

One of the best nudes I've ever seen
Bathsheba receiving a letter from David: (Which in my opinion is superior to Bathsheba by Rembrandt)


One of the best portraits I've ever seen: (very minor nudity)

Anybody else want to contribute ?

08-19-2006, 02:00 PM
Hi Granby, welcome to the world of artist's obscuredom.....:)

I'll see if I can find someone, shouldn't be hard, for every artist we know too much about there are hundreds we hardly ever hear of online.

here is a link to one you may find interesting

Isack van ostade

Bleeding the Pig


I think one of the names they use for obscure is second-tier artists.

08-19-2006, 07:34 PM
Thanks for sharing these paintings. I've learned of a new artist.

I find wonderful but underappreciated artists all of the time.

I’ve also found that it is good to look into who these artists. I’ve often found that the painter was very influential at the time, even if we haven’t heard of them.

Here’s some of the Drost’s paintings that I found in a quick google search.

Willem Drost, Portrait of an Officer in a Red Beret, 1654,


Willem Drost, The Vision of Daniel (c. 1650)

Self-portrait by Willem Drost


Barb Solomon:cat:

08-19-2006, 07:36 PM
Also, this painting was popular when I was growing up. At the time, they thought that it was a Rembrandt, but historians now say that it may be by one of Rembrandt’s students. I can see the similarities to Drost’s work.


Barb Solomon:cat:

08-19-2006, 07:59 PM
Nickel - Hmmm, Ostade is pretty impressive too. He seemed to have something against pigs, though!:lol:

This page from the National Gallery in Washington, DC has some nice closeups.

A Winter Scene, c. 1645. Oil on wood, 48,8 x 40 cm
National Gallery, London

Pig-Killing, 1642. Oil on oak, 39,8 x 53,8 cm
Museum of Fine Arts, Budapest

Barb Solomon:cat:

08-19-2006, 09:49 PM
Ah yes, Winter Scene is one of my favs :)

I see you have one of your favs too here Barb :)

08-19-2006, 09:55 PM
Trust me I am not looking for these types of paintings Granby
I did so enjoy your wip from some time ago.


Rosa Bonheur
[French Realist Painter, 1822-1899]

08-19-2006, 11:03 PM
How’s this for a fantastic but hardly known artist?

Paris Bordone

(Here’s a link to the Web Gallery of Art’s website to see his work.)


Allegory. 1558-60. Oil on canvas, 110 x 131 cm. The Hermitage, St. Petersburg

Venus and Mars with Cupid, 1559-60, Oil on canvas, 118 x 130,5 cm
Galleria Doria-Pamphili, Rome

Here are two that I found the other week!

“Cherubs with Garland of Flowers” or “La Guirlande de Fleurs “
by Carlo Maratta (1694)

Fortune with a Crown
Guido Reni (ok, he’s obscure to some and very well known to others!)

Barb Solomon:cat:

08-19-2006, 11:16 PM
ah the last link tells me my cookies are eaten. lol.
Venus and Mars with Cupid,
Galleria Doria-Pamphili, Rome,
Allegory. The Hermitage, St. Petersburg
Resembles Ruben's style to me.


08-19-2006, 11:20 PM
LOL!!! More pigs, Nickel?:D

The sky and trees in the Winter Scene are so excellent!

I find Rosa Bonheur's work incredible. She's quite a story!

Couching Lion
Oil on canvas

Weaning the Calves, 1879
Rosa Bonheur (French, 1822–1899)

A Limier Briquet Hound, ca. 1880
Rosa Bonheur (French, 1822–1899)

Barb Solomon

08-19-2006, 11:31 PM
I looked at Bordone’s work and thought Titian, but Rubens makes sense too.

Ruben’s copied his share of Titian’s work too.

And both artist make great role models!:D

Barb Solomon:cat:

08-20-2006, 12:31 AM
Hi All:

Nickel: You seem to be interested in this whole swine theme I had. I recommend the following book if you can find it at the library.
"The whole Hog: exploring the etraordinary potential of pigs", by Lyals Watson.

Also, I suggest tackling an original classical representation of Atalanta and the Calydonian Boar to fuel your inspiration :)

(Well - actually I seriously pondered that idea for a bit but decided to try a big copy of 'The Choice of Heracles' by Matteis while I await for Ingres to roll around in the oil forum MOM project)

08-20-2006, 04:51 PM
Granby - I like the idea of both “Atalanta and the Calydonian Boar” or “The Choice of Heracles” as a subject of a painting! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I’m glad to hear that your looking forward to the Ingres MOM! I thought that it was a great choice!


08-20-2006, 05:13 PM
Hi all

there some great stuff here already

Thought I'd do the patriotic thing and share with you one of Scotlands most celebrated painters Sir Henry Raeburn. Big name here but not sure he's known outwith UK. In his day he was top dog in the portraiture world- his stuff still really does still grab you

Sir Henry Raeburn 1756-1823


Mrs Downey circa 1787-90

Oil on canvas
support: 2375 x 1499 mm

This one is really famous here in scotland- its design was used exclusively in the design for the new Scottish parliment building




08-20-2006, 06:09 PM
Hi Ryan! I went looking at the different paintings of Raeburn and it was really hard to stop! He has so many wonderful paintings!

Young Girl Holding Flowers, 1798-1800

Portrait of Sir John Sinclair, 1794-95

Portrait of Miss Eleanor Urquhart. c.1793.

I thought that this one was unusual and interesting!
Portrait of The Reverend Robert Walker Skating. 1784.

For those who love this artist, this link should be worth exploring!

Barb Solomon:cat:

08-20-2006, 10:13 PM
Thanks Granby I'll check them out! :)
My little dog looks like a pig, sounds like a pig.:rolleyes:
I keep reminding him he is Mexican.
Guess that is why I like them ((grunters)).

Barb you found some great paintings by Raeburn & Bonheur :)

Ryan, he's a really neat artists!
It is good your country is proud of him. :)
A great choice to introduce here.
Portrait of The Reverend Robert Walker Skating is just the best