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crazymommy4
07-06-2006, 04:13 PM
Hi, i hope someone might be able to help me. I took some of the photos and manips i have posted to a local printer to get them printed. They used postcard paper, it has a bit of a shine to it, not much though. Unfortunately the photo's came out much darker than what i saw on the screen here at home. How can i fix this? or can i fix this? Should i use regular photo paper instead? will this make a difference? I really like what i did on the programs i used, but so dissapointed :crying: they did not come out the same way. Any help would be appreciated, thank you

Paula

Yorky
07-06-2006, 04:17 PM
You need to calibrate your monitor so that the screen image matches the printed image Paula.

There is some advice and a free calibration print available at Photobox (http://www.photobox.co.uk/static/colour.html) which should help.

Calibration is important, and many photo manipulation programs such as photoshop elements and paintshop pro also have gamma calibration tools to help get the on screen image correct.

Doug

Windy
07-06-2006, 05:59 PM
Paula you might need to go ask them to turn off their colour management too. (I got postcards printed at a local store and they ahve their machines set to warme everything up, this did not look good on images which should have been cool blue lol)
But Yorky has it right your monitor needs to be calibrated.
You could also print something at home that looks right and take it in with you so that you get a good match. If they are a god printer they will work with you.

crazymommy4
07-06-2006, 07:12 PM
Thank you Yorky and Wendy for your help:) . I was so dissapointed in what i saw at the printers. I felt like i had failed. I will ask the printers about their colour management.
Yorky i read the info on the link you added, but i'm afraid i do not know what do with this. I'm just starting out in this so i am still learning. How do i calibrate with this print out.
once again thank you for your help:wave:

Paula

Windy
07-06-2006, 07:41 PM
Paula do not calibrate with your print out, you calibrate so that you monitor shows true colours.
What you should be seeing on your monitor is a true blue, green and red and a full range of black to white.
Then maybe ask the printers to print with no colour management on, which means it should come out the way you see it.

DesertDarlene
07-06-2006, 07:44 PM
ooo! ooo! Educate me, too!

Oh, I started this before Windy gave the answer.

crazymommy4
07-06-2006, 08:56 PM
oh , okay thank you Wendy. I will try again tomorrow. Hopefully they will know what to do, if not i will look for another printer. i know we have three in town. Once must know what to do. once again thank you.

Paula

Windy
07-06-2006, 09:43 PM
Here is a thread where Monitor Caibration was discussed.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=298070

Interesting reading on color management
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Learn/color_management.htm

This one is a bit more complicated but still an interesting read(try and take the time to do so)
http://normankoren.com/makingfineprints1A.html

Basic CRT Monitor Setup here (I think this one is extremely useful)
http://homepage.eircom.net/~bot/paint/monitor.htm

http://epaperpress.com/monitorcal/index.html

http://epaperpress.com/psphoto/index.html

You may find your printer wants you to save with a certain ICC profile here is an interesting page on them (at the moment my husband computer has a strange ICC profile and everything is coming up hot pink, if we click ignore it, it comes up ok, so I will have to look at that shortly)
http://dx.sheridan.com/advisor/icc_profiles.html

Yorky
07-07-2006, 02:46 AM
Hi Paula,

The simplest way is to send for the calibration print and also download the image file.

When you get the print and load the image file in your program, then adjust your monitor so that the on screen image is the same as the print. Now when you subsequently load other images say from your camera, and adjust them on screen so they look right, they will at least be properly adjusted for brightness etc when you save them.

That's one half of the battle :rolleyes:

If you print them yourself and have set up the printer correctly the print should match what is on screen and the original calibration image. Remember printer settings are important as is the paper quality. The same image file printed out on plain paper will be vastly different than one printed on photo glossy paper. Most printer drivers allow you to have custom settings for brightness etc so that when you finally get everything to match you can save the settings.

I'm afraid a lot of trial and error is involved here. There is equipment available for setting up monitors, but it is pricey, it just depends on how far you wish to go with it.

Doug

crazymommy4
07-07-2006, 01:31 PM
Lots of information Wendy, perfect!! thank you so much. i spent a lot of time reading and taking notes.

Yorky thank you i will send for one. according to what i read lastnite i do need to make adjustments.

Paula

Windy
07-07-2006, 06:00 PM
Paula I used to think I had calibrated my CRT monitor as well as I could and I had great results, then I got my laptop. It has a smaller screen, which I thought I would never get used to, but it is just about as perfect as I can get it (without the expensive calibration solutions). The only downside is that it is so sensitive that when people do corrections on their photos (especially in the darks) they are glaringly obvious :( The great thing is that what I see on my screen is extremely close to what I print and also extremely close to what I get from my Printer (Not the supermarket one)

crazymommy4
07-24-2006, 08:52 PM
Wendy, i went to all the print shops in town and i did find one who could give me what i saw on my monitor. Sad news though is that they want to charge me 14 for each print. I thought i bit over priced. After doing the math i figure that maybe i should just get a printer and do it myself. I did some research on them and read the thread here on which printer to get. I wish i could afford the better quality epson( one day) for now though i purchased an HP photosmart D7360. I have been working very hard on selecting the photos for the showing and i need to print them. Toursit season is going to start soon here and i think this would be the best time to show my work not later. I hope i made the right choice in printers. I did print one of my photos and it looks great. I am looking for a spider to put on my monitor, no one in town knows what i am talking about though. I'll have to go to the nearest city someday soon. Thank you for all your help Wendy.
Paula

Windy
07-24-2006, 10:30 PM
The spider is a very expensive piece of gadgetry unless you are in pro mode.
However look here and see if you could order one.
http://www.colorvision.com/profis/profis_view.jsp?id=581
MOst printers these days give a pretty good lokk, I hope it does what you want it to as well.

Yorky
07-25-2006, 03:23 AM
Here's a link (http://www.bodoni.co.uk/colourmanagementmonitorcalibration-c-38_44.html?source=adwords) to a monitor calibration site which shows a cheaper version The Pantone Huey which I saw reviewed recently.

I suggest you do a Google for Pantone Huey review.

Doug