Working on rocks.... [Archive]

bypick

06-14-2006, 09:58 PM

viking57

06-15-2006, 10:36 AM

Hi Byron,
So far this looks to be an excellent painting in the making. I love your color work in your paintings....they always are so dramatic. The foam looks great so far but I have to admit, at first I thought that was massive clouds above the water and wondered about the shape of the waters top....Then I read the text. haha.
I have your video and I"ll probably buy this one too when it's available. Wonderful work!
Ron

bypick

06-15-2006, 10:56 AM

The foam looks great so far but I have to admit, at first I thought that was massive clouds above the water and wondered about the shape of the waters top....Then I read the text. haha.
Ron
Thanks Ron! Your first impression to the foam tells me that I have softened it too much. The feeling of "heaviness" in that rolling water is not there. I need to work on it some more.

This will probably not be a finished painting. Several problems in composition have already become evident. ( True confession time:) ) LOL, I will probably cut out the corner and frame it up as a 9" x 12" and sell it as a rock study. Did you ever do that? :o

Ron, you do a marvelous job of C&C, as well as painting. I wish you many happy days of painting ahead.

Byron

dreamz

06-15-2006, 07:04 PM

bypick

06-15-2006, 09:00 PM

It's difficult to contemplate c&c'ing someone with your talent. Like Ron, I saw clouds even AFTER reading the text but that doesn't mean you need to crop it, how about pushing them further back , perhaps as storm clouds and redoing the foam?

Hi dreamz - I did something I never have seldom done when I started this piece. There has always been the pressure to produce a finished painting, family et. al....often that resulted in my setting aside the learning process or allowing things I didn't like to just sort of slide by. I've always and forever said that I would someday sit down and simply work on whatever technique I wanted. Well, for a moment at least that time has come. :)
I'm looking forward to putting something down and bouncing it around for better or worse. Thank you for the C&C. I respect you all very much and enjoy reading what you have to say.

Byron

Shane Keene

06-16-2006, 02:35 AM

viking57

06-16-2006, 03:00 AM

Hi Byron,
Thanks for the kind words. To answer your question, I came really close to doing that with one of my drawings...an image of a pony pulling a cart. I loved how the horse came out but the background was emmense for stippling and I was never happy with the end result of that part of the drawing. I thought about just cropping the pony and cart and making prints of it but ended up waiting about 10 years and just reworked the sky till it looked good to me...now it is complete.
I guess if I ever get around to doing a show in the park and someone asks me how long it took me to do that drawing I'll have one heck of an answer for them! hahaha.
I agree with Shane here....I think the perspective, as well as the colors you will use, would make this an outstanding painting and I'd lean to finishing it....it would take a lot of talent but you have plenty of that Byron.
Ron
Ron

Marty C

06-16-2006, 08:38 AM

Like all your work, Byron, this is outstanding in execution, and I must say it's nice to see someone of your caliblre struggle a bit with composition too. At least I know even the greats don't get it right all the time!

It's been mentioned a couple of times that the foam looks like a cloud bank in a somewhat stormy sky, and at first galnce that does almost seem to be the case. The problem I think is one of scale. The line of foam in the lower right, together with the undifferentiated foam over the rocks, makes the rocks appear very much bigger than they are, and in turn the eye interprets the further foam bank as a cloud mass, trying to scale the piece to what are first thought of as cliffs rather than rocks.
The whitish rocks at lower right are the biggest offender in terms of scale. The foam seems distant as it is not detailed - steaking, rivulets etc, and so the eye sees large rocks at a distance.
Some work on the distant foam will help too. I have no doubt at all you will transform this into another gem, Byron!

bypick

06-16-2006, 10:11 AM

I actually think the foam works quite well. I love the illusion of light you've created through the use of warm color. I'm thinking that maybe the confusion is caused by the below the horizon perspective which I personally find quite interesting but which might be catching others off guard at first. Looks good to this seascape novice.
Hi Shane,
Thank you for your thoughts. I am happy with the warmer colors and in the original they do give the illusion of being light and airy...one of the reasons for viewing them as clouds. Actually, the image is only a about a quarter of the actual 20" X 30" size of the canvas and does have more of a background sketched in. LOL, I guess I should show the entire image and let you really see what a mess I can make! :( :crying:

The "below the horizon" perspective is one that I have used often through the years and is really fun to try.

Thanks again for the C&C.
Byron

bypick

06-16-2006, 10:41 AM

Like all your work, Byron, this is outstanding in execution, and I must say it's nice to see someone of your caliblre struggle a bit with composition too. At least I know even the greats don't get it right all the time!
Marty, I gotta tell you, I don't feel great at all. I gulp twice when I see some of the accomplishments of other artists here and wonder if there's any hope of my "getting there." As far as struggling? A bit? :lol: If I were a cursing man....I'm not....(my mamma would have used the soap and maybe even the dish as well)...it would appear something like this on paper:
**@@***//^^...with a few extra expletives added for good measure. I do struggle - a lot! Here's some of the things I have problems with: achieving depth, use of warm and cool colors, overworking, and just flat out ignorance of techniques in general.
It's been mentioned a couple of times that the foam looks like a cloud bank in a somewhat stormy sky, and at first galnce that does almost seem to be the case.
You know, having done the work, it took me several minutes to get the foam in perspective as clouds. Then I saw the huge standing wave with the clouds behind. That also would explain your next observation.
The problem I think is one of scale. The line of foam in the lower right, together with the undifferentiated foam over the rocks, makes the rocks appear very much bigger than they are, and in turn the eye interprets the further foam bank as a cloud mass, trying to scale the piece to what are first thought of as cliffs rather than rocks.
Yup, how true it is! :)
The whitish rocks at lower right are the biggest offender in terms of scale. The foam seems distant as it is not detailed - steaking, rivulets etc, and so the eye sees large rocks at a distance.
Yeah and forsooth! Excellent observation. Now let's take this one step further and I'll show you the "mess" I was referring to...

The lower right corner has another rock....so, I threw this one into total light with water running off. Now the painting is completely disjointed. Water pouring off the lighted rock and distant undetailed perspective on the left. Not to mention that the rock at the right is waayy to bold and over-lighted.
)More expletives and a lot of piddling with the brush until it's totally overworked.)
I'll make some changes and then give you all a view of the total canvas. Maybe you all can help me get this thing together yet.

Thank you, my friend, for the warm and accepting C&C! :wave:
Byron

howyadoin

06-16-2006, 08:08 PM

Wow, great job on the lighting in that first one.

bypick

06-16-2006, 09:05 PM

Wow, great job on the lighting in that first one.
I'ma doin' fine, howyadoin...
Thank you for the kind words. Not sure I've seen you around the Marine Art Forum before...but then, my old mind doesn't remember a lot. :o
You have a great day!
Byron

PaulSV

06-17-2006, 01:11 AM

Hey ByPick!

Boy, do you know what I would give to be able to make a 'Mess' like that? Looks great! I agree with Marty's analysis as to the cause of the 'Mass of clouds' illusion with the first one, but I think the effect is exacerbated by the fact that, when one first sees it, it is as a thumbnail instead of having been posted with the image uploader. Upon opening the link, the eye is already looking for clouds and cliffs because in that diminuitive format it looks (to me) like highlighted cliffs in front of a blued-out (e.g. Blue Ridge) mountain range with the latter shrouded in snow peaks or clouds. But, in any event, that is some fine painting. I got your video today and I've watched it twice already - wow, what fun! I can't wait to get up to my armpits in oil paint again! Except for the fact that you used a knife to do your rocks! That is trickery of the highest order. I've been tempted to go at my canvas with a knife many times but not in the fashion you did on the video!

Seriously, I'm really glad to see you back at the canvas again. I honestly think your best works are yet unpainted. And plus, how am I ever going to get one of your originals if you don't flood the market with them, thereby driving down the cost? HA!

Keep up the great work and, if you do another video, I will personally nominate you for an award of some sort (preferrably in the 'Best Second Instructional Seascape Video Produced by a Male Resident Of Western Oregon With The First Name of 'Byron'' category - in the "Over 65" division, of course!). Double HA! Sorry about that, just trying to get even for you hitting me over the head with my crooked bottle in 'Still Life'! :):D:):D

Take Care!
Paul

howyadoin

06-17-2006, 03:57 AM

I'ma doin' fine, howyadoin...
Thank you for the kind words. Not sure I've seen you around the Marine Art Forum before...but then, my old mind doesn't remember a lot. :o
You have a great day!
ByronThanks. I'm a new kid here. Just signed up a few weeks ago. I do have a thread or two on this particular forum, though. I think the titles were "Sea Turtle" and "Little Boats".

ripvanblair

06-17-2006, 05:55 AM

Tremendous looking I always look forward to opening one of your threads Byron, always inspiring------------well done----------Alan

bypick

06-17-2006, 10:27 AM

Hey ByPick! Boy, do you know what I would give to be able to make a 'Mess' like that?
....and....while I complain and gripe a lot, I do appreciate the fact that I have been one blessed enough to be able to make a good living in art. I want you to know I am very thankful.
Except for the fact that you used a knife to do your rocks! That is trickery of the highest order. I've been tempted to go at my canvas with a knife many times but not in the fashion you did on the video!

uhhh, yeah, I know about the knife and scissors routine. :smug:
The only way I've ever found to get the hard edges on the rocks. No matter how I try, brushes seem to round out and blur the edges.
Keep up the great work and, if you do another video, I will personally nominate you for an award of some sort (preferrably in the 'Best Second Instructional Seascape Video Produced by a Male Resident Of Western Oregon With The First Name of 'Byron'' category - in the "Over 65" division, of course!). Double HA! Sorry about that, just trying to get even for you hitting me over the head with my crooked bottle in 'Still Life'! :):D:):D
I'm honored! Looks to me like a very prestigious award. And coming a talented artist and great father makes it all the more exceptional!
Have a great weekend Paul! :)
Byron

bypick

06-17-2006, 10:30 AM

Thanks. I'm a new kid here. Just signed up a few weeks ago. I do have a thread or two on this particular forum, though. I think the titles were "Sea Turtle" and "Little Boats".
Glad to have you aboard the good ship "Marty"....Best dern moderator on the whole forum!
:clap:
Byron

bypick

06-17-2006, 10:32 AM

Tremendous looking I always look forward to opening one of your threads Byron, always inspiring------------well done----------Alan
Hi Alan,
I'm honored to be sure. I've enjoyed opening your threads as well. I always find inspiration there.
Byron

blondheim12

06-17-2006, 11:57 AM

Byron,
Your paintings are sheer poetry.
Love,
Linda

bypick

06-17-2006, 07:11 PM

Byron,
Your paintings are sheer poetry.
Love,
Linda
Wow! Maybe I better look at them again! Thank you love, you are very kind.
Byron

Marty C

06-17-2006, 08:00 PM

Glad to have you aboard the good ship "Marty"....Best dern moderator on the whole forum!
:clap:
Byron
Now Byron, shame on you, you are makng my face go a terrible red, clashes with my eyes.:lol:
And thank you for your kind words too!

bypick

06-17-2006, 08:26 PM

Now Byron, shame on you, you are makng my face go a terrible red, clashes with my eyes.:lol:
Hmmmm...red eyes huh? Turps? Sea spray? Too much sunlight on white canvas? Let's see.....what else? :cat:

laudesan

06-17-2006, 10:36 PM

bypick

06-18-2006, 11:30 AM

Wow intersting thread as always Byron..

Love your work..

I am not going to critique it has all been said.

II had a look at your mini movie for your DVD..;) You have a lovely voice and from what I saw that DVD is a must!!!!!!!!!

It is on my wish list!!!!!!!!!!

Cool idea about the E-Book too. That is on my wish list too.

Roll on September..:p I am commited financially July going to New Zealand to catch up with family. August going to a Joseph Zbukvic workshop.

I need to find my muse and get painting I think and find some buyers :D :p

:) JJ
Hi JJ,
Sounds like your muse is waiting for you.....your schedule looks full. Have fun at the workshop and love to the family in New Zealand. Wow! Looks like a great summer ahead!
Thanks for checking in on the "snippet."
Great voice, huh?
"Ahem!" ***the old pilgrim clears his throat and sucks it in*** :lol:

laudesan

06-18-2006, 08:12 PM

heheheheh It is winter here..;)

But we am still looking forward to ou NZ excursion even tho' they will be sub zero temps..:p

JJ

Bill Wray

06-18-2006, 11:43 PM

Requests for another Video have prompted me to begin struggling in preparation for one on painting rocks. It's been awhile since I've been seriously involved with the easel, so here's one for a start. I'd like to post a few from time to time for your C&C. This is a foreground hunker, sharp and distressed from constant beatings. I've changed the color from my usual black-gray to a brownish hue. Still not enough sky reflection and color built in. I'm hoping that will come with time.

I also have been experimenting with the rolling foam (at the top of the image) that moves forward in the breaker zone after the wave has broken. I did add more color here, including light sienna and pinks to highlight the shadowed area.

Thanks for checking in.

Byron

Your choice of cropping the view so there are no scale reference seems to be the hill you have made for yourself to to climb. Technique is almost flawless of course, but even brilliant painter can be stumped by a painting were you need to pull the camera back.
I never was in doubt as to the view , but I was slight bothered by it. I'm slight bothered by the main foam not quite transitioning into the wave water below, but that may very well be the small scan loses the subtly so it somehow separates a little. If you could put something on the rocks that would give scale you can pull this together to meet your high standards. God knows we would all be happy to have your problems.

bypick

06-19-2006, 12:44 AM

Your choice of cropping the view so there are no scale reference seems to be the hill you have made for yourself to to climb.
Good observation, I've wiped out the right rock and am working on getting another, less intrusive, placement. When I get that done, I'll get a complete image. It isn't quite fair to show it in parts alone.
I'm slight bothered by the main foam not quite transitioning into the wave water below, but that may very well be the small scan loses the subtly so it somehow separates a little.
That's a great observation...no, I haven't finished that area with any patterns. I certainly need them to tie it all together.
God knows we would all be happy to have your problems.
Thanks Bill, you're very kind. As I said before, I've seen many remarkable presentations on the forum. You all are very inspiring. I'll go to bed and count my blessings.
Byron

bypick

07-08-2006, 10:30 AM

Sooo....so here it is finished. It took awhile. I finally worked on it at a local arts and crafts fair for about 3 hours. That's the first experience in demonstrating in front of an audience since I quit teaching about 10 years ago. A little nervous at the beginning, but it got better as the day wore on.

This started out as a study of rock techniques, (the original images.) I did recapture the use of the knife for sharp edges and the more brilliant highlights. Adding brushwork lost some of the detail. From my perspective, although the overall painting turned out "OK", I did not achieve what I set out to do. Somewhere along the way, I lost the depth that I intended. And I've overworked it, much to my wife's distress. I did add more color in reds, violets, and siennas.

So here it is for your final C&C. 20" x 30". Thanks for joining in.
Byron

howyadoin

07-08-2006, 04:43 PM

This started out as a study of rock techniques, (the original images.) I did recapture the use of the knife for sharp edges and the more brilliant highlights. Adding brushwork lost some of the detail. From my perspective, although the overall painting turned out "OK", I did not achieve what I set out to do. Somewhere along the way, I lost the depth that I intended. And I've overworked it, much to my wife's distress. I did add more color in reds, violets, and siennas.Personally, I could stare at it for hours. The variations in the foam alone are fascinating to me.

viking57

07-08-2006, 06:32 PM

Hi Byron,
Well, I can totally understand you feeling that the painting is in the "OK" state since you didn't arrive where you were intitially heading. Still, your "OK" state is fantastic!
I love how you keep that almost pale turqoise blue in the water giving it a transparent image in the wave and the sign of air bubbles in turbulent water. I also am crazy about your rocks....they have that Maxwell Parrish look to them which enhances the atmosphere in the painting. It's all excellent work from a Master Painter.
Ron

laudesan

07-08-2006, 07:38 PM

The foreground is really beautiful, I am not sure about the back rocks, they seem too light to me???

JJ

bypick

07-08-2006, 09:10 PM

....I am not sure about the back rocks, they seem too light to me???JJ
Hi JJ, thank you for your input. They probably appear that way because of the white glazed overlay behind the rolling foam. I'll sure check it out, though. I appreciate your interest! :)
Byron

bypick

07-08-2006, 09:13 PM

Personally, I could stare at it for hours. The variations in the foam alone are fascinating to me.
Thank you howyadoin! Howyadoin' today. I get such a "BANG" out of your handle...can't miss! Artistically original. :thumbsup:
Byron

bypick

07-08-2006, 09:18 PM

Hi Byron,
....they have that Maxwell Parrish look to them which enhances the atmosphere in the painting.
Ron
Ron, you couldn't have given me a kinder response. To have anything in my painting compared to Parrish is probably the height of chest beating, snoot in the air inspiration for the next two weeks. I'll be unlivable. :D
Your compliments are accepted with deep appreciation.
Thank you! Byron

Marty C

07-08-2006, 10:35 PM

Byron, your OK is what everyone else is aspiring to produce in their own work!

It's quite a high value piece, but it works in it's context, the net effect is an atmosphere loaded with air borne spray. Perhaps you lost your intended depth, but you instead gained a very atmospheric piece, high on movement, wonderful in it's complexity, and another majestic display of your inestimable talent.

In other words, its OK:D

Shane Keene

07-08-2006, 11:00 PM

Yeah Byron, what everyone else said. I'm with howyadoin on this one. I could stare at it for hours. I've spent a lot of time on the Oregon Coast and this feels like home to me.

bypick

07-08-2006, 11:00 PM

In other words, its OK:D
It works best if I hear it from you Marty...thanks!! :thumbsup:
Byron

bypick

07-08-2006, 11:04 PM

I'm with howyadoin on this one. I could stare at it for hours. I've spent a lot of time on the Oregon Coast and this feels like home to me.
Shane, there are times when I consider moving inland to be closer to some of the major hospitals...the need rises as we get older, but it's going to be a sad day when we have to leave the coast. Thanks for the lift, you're very kind.
Byron

Gillette

07-09-2006, 12:52 AM

Byron,
another superb painting, and everything that Marty said too!
Please don't move inland, I'm in the same boat as you, and to me to live near the ocean is a dream I've always had, and if I don't make it in the long ambulance ride to the hospital, well....so be it! I just trust my Maker to work it out in His time,and lie in bed at night hearing the winter surf roar, sometimes it sounds so much as if it's a tsunami, that I'm glad I'm a little way up the mountain!.
Just keep on with your inspiring painting,you have such a God given talent.
Jane.

Shane Keene

07-09-2006, 01:12 AM

Shane, there are times when I consider moving inland to be closer to some of the major hospitals...the need rises as we get older, but it's going to be a sad day when we have to leave the coast. Thanks for the lift, you're very kind.
Byron
Well that would suck for you to have to do that. I lived on the Coast (Cannon Beach) a couple decades ago now but was, unfortunately, not yet artistically inclined. It was my dream to move back someday but then I found the Umpqua River Valley and I'm thinking that I'll probably stay right here. I love to paint both landscapes and seascapes and I have the best of both worlds here, being only an hour or less from anything I want to paint.

Hey! You could move here. We have easy access to the coast and a major hospital to boot. And while you were here you could even teach me how to paint like you do :lol::clap::evil:. Sorry, couldn't help myself.

howyadoin

07-09-2006, 04:25 AM

I'm starting to see how many of us ended up postig on the Marine Art board - I've lived near the water my whole life, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

bypick

07-09-2006, 11:07 AM

...I'm in the same boat as you, and to me to live near the ocean is a dream I've always had, and if I don't make it in the long ambulance ride to the hospital, well....so be it! Jane.
Thanks Jane, in truth we have a fairly up-to-date hospital here with quick transference if necessary. We used to live broadside to the winter winds overlooking the ocean. When we retired, we moved about three miles inland on a beautiful acreage that is truly a haven. Less wind and fog, but the surf still roars in the distance. Thanks for your encouragement. Looking forward to seeing more of your work on WC.
Byron

bypick

07-09-2006, 11:15 AM

Hey! You could move here. We have easy access to the coast and a major hospital to boot. And while you were here you could even teach me how to paint like you do :lol::clap::evil:. Sorry, couldn't help myself.
Now that's a plan! Let's see, (haggle,haggle :evil: $$$$...$$$$$)
*****See greed settling in on old SeaPick.....:cat:*****
Have a great day!
Byron

bypick

07-09-2006, 11:22 AM

I'm starting to see how many of us ended up postig on the Marine Art board - I've lived near the water my whole life, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
It would be interesting just to get to know each other. We probably all have a lot in common. In 1980 I returned to Wisconsin for a visit. I felt claustrophobic the whole time I was there. I'm just three minutes from multiple beach accesses. Whew! Water! :)
Byron

MarciaJane

07-09-2006, 04:29 PM

I love the sea and am fortunate enough to live about 20 mins from it. I can't go too long without seeing it as I start to get withdrawal symptoms lol !

I really love your seascapes Byron and am always interested to see your postings. Wish I could do half as good as you ! :)

bypick

07-09-2006, 05:31 PM

I love the sea and am fortunate enough to live about 20 mins from it. I can't go too long without seeing it as I start to get withdrawal symptoms lol!
LOL, like all of us are drugged, huh? May well be.
Thank you MarciaJane...have a good day, hopefully at the beach.
Byron

howyadoin

07-09-2006, 08:31 PM

It would be interesting just to get to know each other. We probably all have a lot in common. In 1980 I returned to Wisconsin for a visit. I felt claustrophobic the whole time I was there. I'm just three minutes from multiple beach accesses. Whew! Water! :)
ByronWell, I'm a transplanted Newfoundlander. Lived all over Atlantic Canada before making the move to British Columbia in 1997. Fortunately, downtown Vancouver is on a peninsula, so I've got the somewhat polluted waters of False Creek just a block away. I don't hear much surf, but I still get salt breezes through the windows, some nights.

And there are plenty of boats docked at Granville Island, which I really ought to be doing paintings of.

bypick

07-09-2006, 08:52 PM

And there are plenty of boats docked at Granville Island, which I really ought to be doing paintings of.
I've only been to Vancouver a couple times, but I've thought it would be a great city. Sounds like you live in an interesting area. We'll be waiting for some works to show us around.

Me, I'm from the Northwoods of Wisconsin. I identify with the area where Larry has his abode - the lakes and rivers are grand. Went off to NYC after highschool to attend the Fashion Institute; graduated, worked a year and a half and then came west. The move to the coast was what prompted the seascapes...E John Robinson was my inspiration....showings in a local gallery.
It's been a good life for us here. I wonder if we can get some others to share. Come on Marty and Alan, and the rest. We need to know a little more about you fellows! What makes you tick et al.....
Thanks for sharing!
Byron

Shane Keene

07-10-2006, 12:21 AM

Well, I'll bite. I was born and raised in Portland, OR but have spent most of my life tramping around the backwoods of Oregon, mostly Mt. Hood National Forest and other parts of the northern Cascades. Spent some time bumming around Carmel and Monterey when I was a young(er) hippy and later in Cannon Beach, OR.

Two of my uncles and my father were (are) painters but I didn't personally become interested until I saw an exhibit in Carmel a few years back containing the works of both E. John and Vernon Kerr. Love those guys.

Anyway, long story short, I somehow made my way to the Umpqua River Valley here in Southern Oregon and fell in love and here I plan to stay, at least until I change my mind.

Who's next?

bypick

07-10-2006, 09:51 AM

Two of my uncles and my father were (are) painters but I didn't personally become interested until I saw an exhibit in Carmel a few years back containing the works of both E. John and Vernon Kerr. Love those guys.
Who's next?
Two very fine artists who shared their talent through the years. Kerr's death was a real blow to all his followers. The world lost a superb talent when he left us. He was terribly encouraging. E. John's demonstrations started me out in the 70s. Tried to bargain out cabinet work for private lessons in Oregon and Mendicino, :evil: but it didn't work. Not many West Coast seascapers back then, so the market was wide open.
Thanks for the pleasant reminder. :)
Byron

Jmag

07-10-2006, 03:55 PM

Good afternoon,

For me to criticize your work is impossible.
Comments are : "simply marvellous". I love your art, and it decide me to start painting.

I'm impatient to see your new dvd, and learning. Painting the rocks and the breaking wave foam are the most difficult for me.

Thanks for your work

Jean

PaulSV

07-10-2006, 05:09 PM

Hey ByPick!

Nice finish on your study - very "Byronesque"! Lovely color, grand rendering, palpable mood, all of the constants of your inimitable style are present in this piece. So glad to see you're swinging that brush again! Now, let's have another! :)

bypick

07-10-2006, 08:51 PM

Good afternoon, I love your art, and it decide me to start painting....Jean
Jean, If I was in anyway responsible for your picking up a brush and creating some beauty in this sometimes harsh world, I am thankful. We will be looking forward to your posts here on WC. My regards to you and your loved ones.
Byron

bypick

07-10-2006, 08:55 PM

Hey ByPick!

Nice finish on your study - very "Byronesque"!
Do you suppose that one will ever make the dictionary?
Lovely color, grand rendering, palpable mood, all of the constants of your inimitable style are present in this piece. So glad to see you're swinging that brush again! Now, let's have another! :)
Hmmm...not sure whether some of those are compliments or insults, but I will take them all for the best.....Thanks Paul, you're a real encouragement. Maybe the Lord will give me tomorrow for another one? :)
Byron

Shane Keene

07-11-2006, 01:41 AM

Two very fine artists who shared their talent through the years. Kerr's death was a real blow to all his followers. The world lost a superb talent when he left us. He was terribly encouraging. E. John's demonstrations started me out in the 70s. Tried to bargain out cabinet work for private lessons in Oregon and Mendicino, :evil: but it didn't work. Not many West Coast seascapers back then, so the market was wide open.
Thanks for the pleasant reminder. :)
Byron
Well, Byron, I agree very much that E. John and Vernon are both very fine artists. I still recommend to aspiring landscape or seascape artists (still an aspiring seascape artist myself) that they check out Vernon's WF book, "Land and Sea". That said, and not to sound like a simpering fan, anyone here who is familiar with E. John or Vernon's work would probably hold you in similar esteem. At least, I do. Having seen your work here on WC and on your website (http://www.pickeringstudio.com), I think that you are truly a Master whose work is comparable to either of these artists.

My two pennies anyway.

bypick

07-11-2006, 11:05 AM

Well, Byron, I agree very much that E. John and Vernon are both very fine artists. I still recommend to aspiring landscape or seascape artists (still an aspiring seascape artist myself) that they check out Vernon's WF book, "Land and Sea". That said, and not to sound like a simpering fan, anyone here who is familiar with E. John or Vernon's work would probably hold you in similar esteem. At least, I do. Having seen your work here on WC and on your website (http://www.pickeringstudio.com), I think that you are truly a Master whose work is comparable to either of these artists.

My two pennies anyway.
Hey wicked, :)
The quick freedom these artists enjoy(ed) were always a thing for me to envy. E. John has a mastery of knowledge of sea action which I will never hope to duplicate. The moods and presentation of both artists were a constant source of amazement to me. Thank you, though, for the comparison. I indeed am honored. :)
Byron