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Chiers
05-25-2006, 01:00 PM
Frank I mentioned a book to you and much of the work you have done recently reminds me very much of this guys work. This guy, being Paul Davis. I thought you might like to see some of it.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-May-2006/23771-Paul_Davis_1.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-May-2006/23771-Paul_Davis_2.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-May-2006/23771-Paul_Davis_3.jpg

Annie*M
05-25-2006, 03:16 PM
These are brilliant. Thank you for showing Chiers:)

Yako
05-25-2006, 09:03 PM
Wow! what great portraits!

maria_khurram
05-25-2006, 09:54 PM
Gorgeous portraits.

Smokin
05-26-2006, 09:40 AM
WOW Chier thank you so much! I am so flattered that my work reminds you of this guys, he is good! I was hopinh I could find more of his work, unfortunatly i couldnt, but these three pics make me feel better. I see even he has trouble rendering out some of the female actresses. Meryl Streep does not scream Meryl streep to me, I also i know I prob couldn't do any better :P.

I didnt mean to sound overly dramatic about rendering a likness. Im happy with the prgress ive been making, but feel like I need to jump a hurtle with likness. Some people are harder to render than others, thats a given, but still I was thinking about what i could do, different ways of seeing people, to aid rendering their likness out. In my lil Brainstorming I was thinking maybe seeing what books are out there on cartooning, or caractures are availble. Maybe studing that. I know Im capable of rendering what i see pretty close, but maybe it will be worth while to try to learn different ways of looking at my subject. I was thinking maybe its more about seeing a type of face or feature and exagerating it a lil.

Just thinking out loud really, eh, cant hurt to se what characture drawing is like. Might be fun.

TxAggieDarlin
05-26-2006, 10:28 AM
oh these are cool........Don't you love Jack Nicholson? Cannot beat those eyebrows LOL.. Thanks for sharing

Chiers
05-26-2006, 04:41 PM
I had a hard time finding just this one Frank but if you are interested there is a piece about him and the red # under his pic are links to a few of his paintings. HERE (http://www.aiga.org/content.cfm?contentalias=pauldavis)

I think caricatures are done by picking out the most prominate features then exagerating them. As far as a close likeness, you probably already know that the smallest varience can make huge differences.

Jin
05-26-2006, 08:33 PM
Smokin,

Artist Jeff Wong does some great drawing, including but not limited to caricatures, and there's a thread at In Depth Arts in which he shares some drawing class sketches done with fantastic and great exaggeration of physical features. A bit too exaggerated for what you want to do but Jeff is a master at giving critiques and his range of drawing styles is impressive to boot. When he gives a critique (requested by the artist), he takes plenty of time, and gives an objective critique based on his knowledge of composition, perspective, color, etc, not biased toward his own drawing and painting styles. As to his credentials, among others, he works for Sports Illustrated magazine and painted the Sports Illustrated 50th Anniversary cover (four page spread), a take off on Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel ceiling but with sports figures instead, September 27, 2004 Volume 101, Issue 12.

Here are links to some good example threads at IDA:

Caricatures for the Chicago Tribune - Bill Murry & Gollum (http://www.indeptharts.org/showthread.php?t=635&highlight=drawing)

Caricature drawing of a friend - My friend Kay [Painter] (http://www.indeptharts.org/showthread.php?t=3078&highlight=drawing)

Not caricatures but an example of Jeff's range of drawing styles - Some recent drawings from life... (http://www.indeptharts.org/showthread.php?t=73&page=1&pp=10&highlight=drawing)

Nudity, possibly offensive to some, from life drawing classes -

More Life Drawings (http://www.indeptharts.org/showthread.php?t=1884&highlight=drawing)

In the thread linked below, Jeff says the short pose sketches took 1 minute for each figure and the more finished sketches took from 10 to 60 minutes each.

Nudity, possibly offensive to some, from life drawing classes -

Blame Paulo (http://www.indeptharts.org/showthread.php?t=1878&highlight=drawing)

Last but not least, the Sports Illustrated 50th Anniversary Cover:

Sports Illustraded's 50th Anniversary (http://www.indeptharts.org/showthread.php?t=1525&highlight=drawing)

For anyone who doesn't feel like taking time to read the whole 11 page thread linked above (do read Jeff's initial post as it explains how he got the job and how long it took to complete), here are some links to the Sports Illustrated 50th Anniversary cover painting:

Post #13 - "....sample that got me the gig." said Jeff (http://www.indeptharts.org/showthread.php?t=1525&page=2&pp=10&highlight=drawing)

Jeff Wong's Sports Illustrated 50th Anniversary Cover Illustration - Front Cover Only (http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/tennw/sports/w-baskbl/si-50thanniv/si-chapel-cover-full-web.jpg)

Jeff Wong's Sports Illustrated 50th Anniversary Cover Illustration- Four Page Spread (http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/tennw/sports/w-baskbl/si-50thanniv/si-chapel-full-web.jpg)

Jeff Wong's Sports Illustrated 50th Anniversary Cover Illustration - Selected Panels in Greater Detail (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/magazine/09/22/1/)

Post # 35 - "...you can compare just about all of the original images to the ones I reworked and see how I tried to retain the compositions and poses:" said Jeff (http://www.indeptharts.org/showthread.php?t=1525&page=4&pp=10&highlight=drawing)

If you visit In Depth Arts (http://www.indeptharts.org/) and ask Jeff to critique your painting (or paintings) explaining your goal and any areas you're finding problematic, though you may have to wait a bit if he's busy, I think you'll find he's a great resource, generous, and will give you some very helpful tips.

There's a critique forum (Everyone's a Critic) but if you post first in the Painter Can - 2D Studio forum you might get some attention more quickly as that's probably the most active forum.

Personally, I think your work is great, but you're the artist after all, and need to feel happy about your work even if everyone else is already.

Best wishes! :)

Jin
05-26-2006, 08:35 PM
Sherry,

Thanks for posting the links and examples of Paul Davis' work. I love it! :)

Also agree that Smokin's work is very similar to the three Paul Davis examples posted in your message.

TWTom
05-27-2006, 06:59 AM
If I could learn to draw like Paul Davis, I could die happy tomorrow. Wow!

Smokin
05-27-2006, 08:31 AM
Jin OMG, thank you for sharing! I just started looking through the links and am having a blast!

Thank Chier, I had a blast looking at pauls work too.Thank you for taking the time to find that link, I actually came across that one myself, but was conviced that wasnt the same paul we were taking about. Glad you pointed it out, seeing more of his work is inspirational.

Hope Im not the only one all stimulated with all this info about portrature and caracatures. I just find it amazing at how much there is to learn and so many difffernt ways to look at/render , things. Well I have a new found energy and direction I know Ill enjoy with portrature, thanks again :wave: !

Yako
05-27-2006, 08:58 AM
I had a hard time finding just this one Frank but if you are interested there is a piece about him and the red # under his pic are links to a few of his paintings. HERE (http://www.aiga.org/content.cfm?contentalias=pauldavis)



Went to the link and wow there are some fascinating images, like the color palettes and compositions of links 6,7 and 10 (under the author's photograph)

TWTom
05-27-2006, 10:34 AM
Jinny,
Thank you for all that research. I'm poking through all those links. Love it.

Jin
05-28-2006, 01:06 AM
Smokin and TWTom,

You're most welcome! Happy to hear you're enjoying the links.

TW,

I know you probably saw Jeff's long thread about his Sports Illustrated 50th Anniversary Cover painting already, but it's fun to read it again and especially to see the entire cover (four page spread) and details of some of the panels.

Smokin,

I hope you'll continue to find inspiration from these links and are able to get some good critiques from Jeff. Remember to be patient since he's a busy guy.

barryt
05-28-2006, 04:51 AM
Thanks Sherry and Jinny for those links. What a great forum we have here. Likeness has fascinated me from an early age, and I used to do cartoons of fellow pupils for a college magazine. I think Joel made a very pertinent observation when he said it was v important to get the shape of the face right.