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05-23-2006, 10:56 PM
Thought I would post this, because I still have a lot to work through on it. I'm working on the eyes now...still some adjusting to do there. Also, the hair is def. the biggest challenge for me, so I thought that I would post it as a WIP. I'm drawing it on 19"x24" hot press bristol board. Usually I use only mech. pencils , but for this drawing I'm only using wood case pencils.....they force me to deal with a softer edge instead of trying to outline everything, (a big problem that Iv'e had in trying to render hair). I'm also working more with negative space. I have my trusty ebony pencils out to get those rich darks that I like in my drawings:D thanks for looking and your comments.....this one may take a few days so I'll be posting a few updates.............thanks again.
05-23-2006, 11:14 PM
No comments yet but I'm gettin' a front row seat.
05-23-2006, 11:38 PM
Move along Al - make some room for me!!!!
Doesn't look like you are having any problems with the hair at all!!!
05-23-2006, 11:52 PM
:lol: Anita-we may have to take the second row-the guys---you know:wink2:
Stunning Roger-those eyes!...that hair....fantastic already!
Roger, never a surprise, always a delight! Looks like one eye might off slightly but honestly I am atributing it ti the time of night and also that more renderliciousness is still to come. I am sitting behind Anita and Judi so I can dip their hair in the inkwell!
05-24-2006, 12:12 AM
No-no- not the INK!
This do be coming along nicely Roger. I'm glad to see some one else is using alternatives to graphite for the rich blacks. I also love charcoal and carbon pencils for my blacks. Haven't quite mastered them yet, but you seem to be getting the hang of them. I'm watching this closely.
can't wait for more.
JayD, didn't we talk about the ink well thing a while ago? You know about using a brush instead of dipping the hair!
05-24-2006, 03:50 PM
JayD.....your perception was correct about the eyes.....they do need adjusting. I don't use a circle template or guide to render the eyes in my portraits. Unfortunately though, I'm not very good at drawing circles freehand:D .
Well, here is a small update. I finished her hair in the top right corner, but I still have a long way to go. Thanks again everyone for your comments and for looking.
05-24-2006, 04:50 PM
Roger, I don't see that you have any trouble rendering hair. It is looking beautiful. I am certainly looking forward to your updates.
05-24-2006, 06:45 PM
Roger, this is not just a sultan's delight, but a pleasure to see this great drawing of your's come to life. Great start.
05-24-2006, 07:46 PM
I pulled up a chair on the other thread, do we have stereo surround sound, too? Isn't that hair gorgeous?
05-24-2006, 08:34 PM
Her hair is amazing! So glad you're doing this as a WIP!
05-25-2006, 01:57 AM
Well I've had a late night....sick child:o . Since I couldn't sleep I decided to work some more on the drawing. I blocked in some shapes for her hair on her right side and did some more detailing to her face for a more realistic look......it's funny how a small shadow placed just right on the eye can make a difference.....well thanks for your comments and for looking....another update coming soon....
05-25-2006, 07:05 AM
Judi - I'm not moving to the second row for any guys! I want to watch this from the front - besides you know how they fidget and I wouldn't want to miss anything!
Roger - the hair is AMAZING!!!! YOu're conjuring a wonderful air of mystery here!
05-25-2006, 04:32 PM
Thanks for the comment Anita:) ,
Well here is another small update......I'm about to "pull my hair out" over this hair. Why couldn't I have just drawn her wearing a hat:o . Less frustration....I dunno, I guess that I'm just an impatient person.:rolleyes: .
05-25-2006, 04:41 PM
Oh boy! What are you talking about, trouble with the hair?? It's looking amazing! I am so taken aback by the talent here. It is turning into a gorgeous picture!
05-25-2006, 05:08 PM
Hi, Roger your harem girl is looking very enchanting :) I really like the way your rendering her veil.
05-25-2006, 07:41 PM
Fabulous updates! I love that we can see how you are handling her hair and doing a Wonderful job at it! Look forward to future updates!
05-25-2006, 07:51 PM
05-25-2006, 08:10 PM
Roger, this is fabulous. I haven't been on in a few days so I got to see all of your updates at once. I am glad I didn't miss this. The eyes are captivating and the hair is beautiful!! :clap: :thumbsup: I can't wait to see the hanging sequins on her veil!
05-26-2006, 03:59 AM
Looking great Roger, the hair will be worth it in the end. You may be bald but it will be a fantastic drawing.
05-26-2006, 07:35 AM
Roger - you really are succeeding with the hair so stop worrying so much. Whatever it is you're doing, it works!!!! :D
05-26-2006, 05:00 PM
Thanks again everyone for your comments,
Well here is another update....I've been working on small and subtle details...still more work to do on the veil and and the coins. Over the weekend I will try and finish her hair....then spend a couple of days rapping everything up.......thanks for your patience
05-26-2006, 05:14 PM
This is a very beautiful piece of work you have here. It's stunning.
05-27-2006, 02:59 AM
Well change of plans.....I did some more work on her hair. I think this will be my last update for a couple of days.... I gotta enjoy this weekend with the wife and kids, so that means putting my pencils down for awhile................see ya with another update next week:wave:
05-27-2006, 11:43 AM
Wow-she is looking amazing Roger! Enjoy your break!:)
05-27-2006, 07:43 PM
This is a gem! Enjoy your weekend! Looking forward to your updates next week!
05-27-2006, 08:10 PM
I am amazed at the amount of fine detail in this! And those eyes! Awesome work.
05-27-2006, 08:16 PM
I am gobsmacked by the hair! Superb!
05-27-2006, 08:42 PM
I love the intricate patterns you weave into all your drawings! This one is just wonderful in all ways.
05-28-2006, 03:32 AM
Beautiful work Roger.
Believe me she looks much better with hair, than with a hat on.
05-29-2006, 11:29 AM
Hey guys thanks for your comments:) ,
Thought that I would post another update. I worked more on her veil and concentrated on more detail all around. I'm planning a final push on her hair to finish it. Well, got to pack the family up and slog off to the old traditional family, memorial day picnic:rolleyes: . Then I'll go and plant flags on my granfather and uncle's graves...both veterans of war ( WWarII and Vietnam). Thanks again for looking.
P.S. I noticed that for some reason my image is being squashed somehow when I upload it ..so I've adjusted a few settings now it looks normal:)
05-29-2006, 12:21 PM
Amazing! Just amazing! I love the detail of her hair!
...and she's....so.....hoooot! :eek: :heart:
05-29-2006, 05:10 PM
This is by far one of your most brilliant pieces. I think what appeals to me most is the way you have captured credible movement. I will try to explain what I mean:
The eyes are captivating, as is her hair, which appears as if she just tossed her head from side to side, bobbed up and down, and also bent over forward and backwards (as a slave would do for her Master). It even looks like the front strands are clumped together as if moist from not only sweating from the exertion of the motions itself but also from the nervousness of performing in front of him and wondering if he will accept her performance.
The veil, oh my, that veil is so exquisite and very glittering. The way you have the intricate weave drawn illustrates the movement of her swaying, as does the jewels in her hair really is credible to the viewer.
This gives me the impression that we have zoomed up close to her, right after she has performed a gratifying dance to the Sultan. We get the view he gets as she finishes her dance kneeling at his feet looking up to him for His approval.
It is apparent she is a pleasure to Him. So appropriate is the title for this rendering. :thumbsup:
Oh and thank you for signing my guestbook and the nice words, I really appreciate them coming from a creative and extrodinary artist as yourself.
05-29-2006, 07:33 PM
This is beautiful and Her eyes are stunning. Great work.
05-29-2006, 07:33 PM
This is beautiful and Her eyes are stunning. Great work.
05-30-2006, 03:47 PM
Wow! She is very lovely and the work you have put in has been well worth it. An extraordinary piece I look forward to the finish.
05-30-2006, 06:35 PM
Roger, this is such an incredible piece...leaves me speechless!
05-30-2006, 10:12 PM
Well, here is the finished piece. I know there are bits and parts of it that I can make improvements to. I'm really trying hard to master the elusive art of realisticly rendering different kindes of textures:o . I guess I'll put it away for a few days so that I can come back and look at it with "fresh eyes":) . I have learned some lessons with this drawing and I look at it as a stepping stone for my next drawing....maybe one day I'll be where I want to be in my abilities....................thanks again.....
PS can some one give me some info on a past thread on rendering hair....I remember reading one last year sometime and picking up some tips from it, but I can't seem to remember just were, and in what forum the thread was in? I told someone in another forum I would try and get a link to it for them......thanks again everyone.
05-30-2006, 10:39 PM
Roger-I think she is so-o-o stunning!:clap: :clap: The amazing detail and the darks are wonderful. And the veil! And the tonal values...and the...everything.
There are a couple on hair that I remember-I think Ken (SparrowHawk7) has one in Class 33---somewhere-but not sure. I tried to find it last week without luck. Maybe someone else will come along that will remember for sure. Maybe pm him. If you find it-can you put a link here as others may be interested as well.
05-31-2006, 06:39 AM
This is a spectacular drawing. There is one very small place that seems to catch my attention so I'll point it out to you - take it for whatever it's worth which isn't much. :) It's where her head band with the gem enters her hair on the left side. The hair doesn't appear to part or lay down to make room for it ... the band seems to simply stop at the forest of hair.
I did a post about hair in class 33 as Judi mentioned. If it's any help to your friend, the link is http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4367026&postcount=1542
05-31-2006, 05:10 PM
Sp much for the eyes to appreciate and enjoy. I watched this over in Portraiture and feel you've really outdone yourself! Beautiful work.
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