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dk_art
03-31-2006, 02:42 AM
Here is a sketch I made in Painter 8.1 using just a 2b pencil using my new Tablet PC.

http://www.dkingdesign.com/computer_art/2006_mar30_house_hill.jpg

I used to do a lot of graphics at my desktop with a graphire tablet but the Tablet PC always seemed like a neat idea for doing computer art. Also I developed a strong dislike of being stuck to sitting at the desktop computer which affected me physical. Moving about to different locations and drawing directly on the screen is extremely liberating. Also being able to rotate the tablet PC around to take advantage of the hand's natural arc is great and natural (something that bothered me about the stationary graphics tablet at the desktop where drawing arcs in certain directions felt weird ).

I got the Acer Travelmate C312XCi "convertable" tablet PC.

http://global.acer.com/products/tablet_pc/tmc310.htm

It is 1.7 GHz and has 512megs of RAM and still did pretty good with some Painter brushes even with my drawing at 2400 x 3000 pixels. Still it needs another 512megs as adjusting multiple photos can be a drain.

Heres a review of it working with z-brush

http://www.highend3d.com/articles/reviews/21-1.html


Doing this sketch was really a great feel. Drawing directly on the screen is so natural.

I wrote this post in handwriting which was Converted to text". Even so, swiveling the screen into "laptop" mode to use the Keyboard probably would have been fasted and made fewer things to be corrected.

I think I'll keep adding to this sketch to make some they more finished.

Skinny
03-31-2006, 05:59 AM
You can use a Painter with a tablet? Oh my!...I imagined that tablets were limited to very crude programs. Hmmm, does a tablet fit into a Christmas stocking? :cat: I'm off to check out those links!

Mr_Pen
03-31-2006, 06:26 AM
Dar David K

Great! I had the Tablet PC(NEC world lightest), and went to the Zoo to nature drawing. It was very fun. I completely agree with your opinion. But when I did that, I felt two probs. One is screen brightness, second is battery life time. Please give me your opinion, because I'll buy new laptop for outside drawing.

Yako
03-31-2006, 07:09 AM
Wow! i like very much this! Like the limited palette you used. A playful scene.
It's a unique style. Bravoooo!:clap: :clap: :clap:

justjean
03-31-2006, 08:34 AM
Looks like it would be great fun :thumbsup:

JCoop
03-31-2006, 12:25 PM
David, you must be on top of the world! Your drawing is turning out great. Don't forget though, that the canvas in Painter can freely rotated for painting odd angles on your desktop setup.:)

dk_art
03-31-2006, 05:36 PM
Thanks for the comments. I'm hand-writing this reply whilst lying on the couch with the Tablet PC propped up against my bent legs like a large book ( "write-os" are when the text recognition sees what you write incorrectly while typing typos are keys near to each other. I had to correct some text but I think when I type I make as many typos haha). I could just swivel this and use the keyboard which would probably be faster. This is a totally new approach to what a computer is (can you tell I'm excited about this thing). Here's how the work looks now including my current Painter8 setup for it.

http://www.dkingdesign.com/computer_art/2006_mar30_landscape/landscape_stage2%20.jpg

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Yes Skinny , Painter8 seems to work well. Even my rather large image size of 8"x10" at 300 dpi has virtually no brush lag with acrylic brush sized up to 80 or so on the slider. Some brushes make lag but that's true many times when working on print-sized images with large brush sizes.

I'd like to set a stick of 1024meg ram for it :) as 512 just barely covers things.

" does a tablet fit into a Christmas stocking?"

umm ... depends on the size of your feet I guess haha!


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"One is screen brightness, second is battery life time."

Well, I haven't used it outside but I know the screen is brighter than my 5 year old LCD desktop monitor. I just took it into the daylight on my balcony and it seems pretty decent. Colours with bright daylight around would be way off for fine colour correction but for line sketching , it would be good.

At full CPU speed and monitor brightness my battery life is about 3.5 hours of work ( tablet PC models vary of course. My screen is 14" but 12" LCD screens will use less power). You can set to different power management schemes and make custom ones. So now I have it to "word precessing" and the screen isn't as bright and CPU speed is 40%. I work a lot with it plugged into the nearest wall power plug G it can recharge. Because I like to rotate the whole PC around like a notepad when painting ( I also do this a lot with my acrylic canvases... I guess it's because I have geometric arcs and shapes in my work) , it's better when a cord isn't there.

You can put a second battery in a bay in the underside for up to 8 or be hours of continually use.

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"Don't forget though, that the canvas in Painter can freely rotated for painting odd angles on your desktop setup"
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That's true... but it is really neat just to turn the while Tablet*PC around to get the perfect arc for the hand. It just feels really natural .

Anyway, here is a photo of it on the couch with Painter on screen. It's a bad photo (low light level). It looks too square due to the photo angle . You can also press a button to change to "portrait orientation".

http://www.dkingdesign.com/computer_art/2006_mar30_landscape/painter_on_tablet_pc.jpg


I just really love this while technology . I really love the ability to not be stuck sitting at a desktop. Doing things at the stationary desk/chair position aggravated a nerve in my left leg , often made me feel really anxious after longer use and generally was bad for the body. Check out this page about "sitting" and discussion about health issues.

http://users.chariot.net.au/~posture/

dk_art
03-31-2006, 05:36 PM
oops ... posted twice

Skinny
03-31-2006, 05:46 PM
How much does it weigh?

dk_art
03-31-2006, 06:14 PM
apparently it's 6.4 lbs . If someone used one where they were standing jotting down notes a lot (medical or construction use for example) a 12" screen and lighter model would be better. For most art uses, I don't think standing could be an issue but you could feel the weight if you were sitting with it in one arm.

Not all use wacon pressure sensitivity. A couple makers don't have any pressure sensitivity while other's use another type where the pen has a battery.

There we a few types of tablet PC. Mine is a convertible with the swivelling screen that folds on top of the main Pc/keyboard body.

Slates have no keyboard while Some variations can hare a detachable keyboard or docking station.

Check out these links;

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/tabletpc/default.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/tabletpc/default.mspx

http://www.dolcetechnica.com/blogs/peter/archive/2004/10/14/2541.aspx

http://www.tabletpclounge.com/

http://www.tabletpctalk.com/articles.shtml


Tablet PC + art message posts


http://www.tabletpcbuzz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16849

http://tabletpcbuzz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3610

http://tabletpcbuzz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7953

http://tabletpcbuzz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1540

http://tabletpcbuzz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13083

http://tabletpcbuzz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13191

Skinny
03-31-2006, 07:36 PM
GREAT info, dk....thanks! :p

Yako
03-31-2006, 09:35 PM
Woooooow! i liked your dreamy drawing!.....:) :thumbsup:

And.....loved the little toy you used to do it...hmmmm...its very probable i'll buy one to paint in my coach.:D :D :D

...thks for all the links you gave us.....

Mr_Pen
04-01-2006, 04:05 AM
Thanks, David K:thumbsup:

omniartz
04-01-2006, 10:02 PM
Some cool stuff here, better than Krickel on a Palm Vx!!! :lol: I think your pics of the tablet with your image on it is so great and you've given us a lot to research! Thanks! :D