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03-25-2006, 05:53 PM
Welcome to week 13 of Classical Art Journey. If you have any questions about what to do, just ask, we pretty much find someone to do a study from, may not even know who it is, but we are working at our skills, and sharing a good time learning about classical art.

If you need help in finding someone to study just ask.

Tyree likes the art at ARC, they have listed 225 out of over 5,000 of the top names in all of art history viewed on their site: http://www.artrenewal.org/articles/2...ns/museum1.asp

PushingPixels has been studying Dore’s work from the Divine Comedy; Here is a link she has about the artist: http://dore.artpassions.net/ , and one on his life http://www.antiquemapsandprints.com/gustave-dore.htm .

Last week Fish <>< studied a John Constable portrait, Maria Bickell, from1816.

Rhysyllanfair chose to do a homage to his favorite poet, Ranier Maria Rilke after a portrait by Helmut Westhoff. Here's a link to the original: http://www.oskarmariagraf.de/rilke.htm

Last week I was still challenged by my study from week 11 of my blended Roman Ladies. http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4448859&postcount=17

If you would like to join us this week please do. Everyone here is very friendly and helpful. Size and media is your choice. A link to your artist is appreciated if you have one. A little background on the artist or time period is good too! Hope everyone finds something this week to excite and inspire us all!

Your pal, Nickel

For your viewing pleasure :)


By Domenico Quaglio, German

Reims Cathedral, France, 1225-99,
part of the High Gothic Style in Architecture.

*Early Gothic, High Gothic, Classic High Gothic are terms used to describe styles, not time periods.

Dommenico Quaglio came from a North Italian family of artists active in Germany over eight generations (from the seventeenth century to the early twentieth).

They worked as fresco painters, architects, decorators and view painters, with several – including Domenico the Younger - providing stage designs for the court theatres at Mannheim and Munich.

In 1819 Domenico turned to drawing and painting landscapes and thereafter he travelled through central Europe painting such famous monuments as the cathedrals of Strasbourg, Cologne and Reims

In the 1820s he also painted views of Munich which record the city before it underwent Ludwig I’s architectural changes.

From 1833, he was commissioned by Crown Prince Maximilian II of Bavaria to oversee the restoration of Schloss Hohenschwangau.

Reims Cathedral west view (photograph)

Very nice and large picture at this link.


03-25-2006, 05:57 PM
Here is a nice link to some pretty faces from Reims!




03-25-2006, 06:47 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Mar-2006/65063-dame.jpg hi nickel...great start to this week!!! this was a pic i took in paris, 2001, from the top of Notre Dame this gargoyle was....tyree:wave:

03-25-2006, 08:46 PM
Cool link to Reims, Nickel! Thanks!

Tyree - That is a fantastic picture! Thanks for sharing it!

03-25-2006, 10:51 PM
Hi folks!

Anita just posted a thread http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=336097
on a new program in the drawing channel. Sounds like good information we as artists can use:thumbsup:

Susan, I love your picture of the gargoyle :clap: :clap: :clap:

It looks so big when compared to the building crane in the background. WOW

I just love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:) :) :)

Great photo, bet you had a greater time in Paris:heart:

Hi Keith, whatca got cooking this week????????:)
Are your classes you are teaching fun????????:)

:wave: Nickel

03-26-2006, 01:43 PM
Heya Nickel! Thanks for that link. Those classes look pretty interesting. I'll have to nose around and see if I got time to join in. Never can can too good at drawing you know. :D

My drawing classes are off and running! Wel, not really running quite yet. :) It's a slow start as only had 1 person sign up these time around but we're having a good time and talking a lot about the basics. It's fun! Wish I had started doing this a long time ago.

I have no idea what to do this week. :( I'm going to go nose around A.R.C. and see what catches my eye. I'll check in with you guys and gals again later!

03-26-2006, 04:11 PM
Keith, it is good to have fun and your classes will grow as more people learn of your work. I can't wait to see who you find for us this week. :)

I am for sure going to check out the drawing class, always something to learn! I don't get a lot of time to join in but I like to see what is going on!

Have a nice Sunday!:wave:


03-26-2006, 07:50 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Mar-2006/65063-rap1.jpg Raphael, Italian Renaissance,,Portrait of a Nude Woman. 1518-1519..graphite, koh i noor woodless coloured pencils, background black pastel..From the ARC files...tyree:p

03-26-2006, 10:09 PM
First thing I said, "Who is that?"

Pretty Susan, she is a very mysterious looking lady!!!!

I love it!!! :thumbsup:


ps, yes, dog paws, wolf-wolf :lol: :)

03-27-2006, 12:35 AM
Nickel Thanks for the links... oh Susan those Gargoyles fit right in with the stuff I've been doing lately. Fish glad you are enjoying your classes. I am very fortunate to work with a very talented bunch of young people and it is very rewarding to share what we have been doing here, I work for the Air Force and alot of the people I work with are in their 20's.

well here is my weekly assignment --- Man with a Turban by Giovanni Bellini 1430-1516


03-27-2006, 02:57 AM
Barbara cool guy with a turban!!!!! I like him! He looks just like someone you could meet today! I like his eyes and the curls in his beard. Nice hat too! You did a great job! :thumbsup: Glad you liked the Gargoyles, the photo by Susan is awesome! Must be nice to be with a group of twenty something young people. They are fun! Love them myself! So you work for the Air Force, that sounds like a great job! :wave: Nickel

03-27-2006, 08:32 PM
barb...your portrait has a neat dark, mysterious look to him..well done!!!! tyree:clap: :wave: :thumbsup:

03-27-2006, 11:20 PM
Tyree - Great portrait! I really like the colors! Beautiful!!! :clap:

Pixel - Cool drawing! Great work! :clap:

I couldn't find anything that really "inspired" me on my trip through the ARC this week. :crying: So, I decided to experiment a little. I have a little book about Vincent van Gogh. I'm asuming you heard of him so I did not dig much into the artist this week. I took his chalk drawing of Peasant Woman Gleaning, laid out a little 6 x 8 block to draw in, and did an ink drawing. I then decided the black and white wasn't cutting it so took some charcoal dust and sprinkled it over a masked surface and ... viola!


03-28-2006, 08:05 AM
Fish, that is simply terrific.


03-28-2006, 08:02 PM
I agree with Robert! Simply terrific:thumbsup: vanGogh was very good at drawing, an excellent person to study! Did you see the mom Dave hosted on him in the oil channel? I think Richard aka Gallery Orlando found posted to online drawings by vanGogh. :wave: Nickel

Sept 05 MOM http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=292286

03-28-2006, 08:09 PM
:wave: keith....agreed, excellent work!!!! tyree:clap: :thumbsup:

03-28-2006, 09:13 PM
Oh this journey, I want to introduce you to someone special and very nice.


03-28-2006, 11:44 PM
Thanks for the comments everyone! I even surprised myself at how well it came out! :)

Nickel, Thank for the link. I have always wanted to get involved with the MOMs but have never really had a chance. Time and space are a problem for me with 2 kids when it comes to oils. I just might have to break them out for that though. We'll see....

03-29-2006, 08:54 AM
I guess Van Gogh's a little bit out of the 'classical' mainstream, but I thought some might be interested in this. Purely by coincidence, after seeing Keith's drawing, I was reading something last night about Van Gogh's drawing by the writer John Berger. A brief excerpt:

". . . for him (Van Gogh) the act of drawing or painting was a way of discovering and demonstrating why he loved so intensely what he was looking at . . . And from this nakedness of his, which his contemporaries saw as naivety or madness, came his capacity to love, suddenly and at any moment, what he saw in front of him. Picking up pen or brush, he then strove to realize, to achieve that love. . . (his drawings) were maps of his love."

I think that is beautiful, and speaks to something in each artist - not simply the desire to paint or draw or sculpt something, but the desire to express his or her love and passion for life around them.

I've done a fair bit of reading of and about Van Gogh, and I've come to believe not only that he was a great artist but that he was one of the greatest human beings who ever lived. It's hard to put your finger on just why, but it has something to do with this incredible empathy he had for the world he lived in.


03-29-2006, 12:04 PM
I think historically vanGogh is Post-Impression. Offically, we can do Impression here in the classical fourm. I just found that out. :D I like vanGogh and post-impressionism and a lot more. I am ok on the journey. We can't help what we see all the time:thumbsup: This means we can see Anders Zorn, John Singer Sargent, Joaquin Sorolla, Fechin, Winslow Homer, Thomas Eakins, Henry O Tanner, Rodin, Monet, James Abbott McNeill Whistler, Degas, Morisot, Mary Cassatt, Monet, :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:


03-29-2006, 03:19 PM
:wave: Been MIA for a bunch of reasons, among them, a good friend of mine died this week from a freak accident that happened over a month ago. You just never know.......doing my best to remember to stop and smell the flowers. Also, trying like crazy to catch up.

Nickel, thanks for all the great links.

Great gargoyle, Susan. And beautiful Raphael study.

Barb, wonderful Bellini study.

Keith, your Van Gogh study is simply stunning! I keep going back to look at it. Wonderful texture and tonal values. Great movement. I just love it.

Robert, that's a wonderful quote about Van Gogh. He is definitely up there with my favorites, and was no doubt misunderstood.

03-29-2006, 04:21 PM
Here are my latest two offerings. The first should have been entered in Week 11, but I wasn't able to finish it until yesterday. The second was painted last night.

Albrecht Durer: Hands, 1506

My study--8"x10" graphite on 70lb drawing paper:

Albrecht Durer: Hare, 1502 (One of my longtime favorites of Durer):

My study--8"x10" colored pencil on Stonehenge Rising Board

03-29-2006, 08:48 PM
Eileen, sorry about your friend ((big hug)) to you. It is nice to see you back, you are having some unexpected events, you inspire me, you just keep on going...you set a good example.

I love the hare first, it is my fav hare of all. Don't you just want to add some Easter eggs? I love it. And of course, who better to study than Durer for hands. You've caught the planes very nice. :thumbsup: I enjoyed seeing both of them. Nickel

03-29-2006, 08:53 PM
Here is another hare, hares wishing you all a starry night :wave:

03-29-2006, 09:14 PM
Thanks for your lovely comments, Nickel. Love your Happy Hare. :thumbsup:

03-29-2006, 09:44 PM
Hi guys!

Nickel those starting posts when you start a thread is just so cool. Love to read your introductions to the new week.

Good to hear about how your class going Keith. Mine like yours is slow too. There are people signed up but for differente days and different times and the owner of the place wants at least 3 per class to start. So she is trying to get them at the same time. I agree with Nickel that once people start seeing what you do and how you do, others will come. I have it all set up to start. Lessons, exercises and all. Meanwhile I keep painting and drawing as usual. I want to have this experience first at least with the first class to see how are people really interested about art and then If I really think it is good, I may start advertising it. I have all set for that too. But I better wait and see. Good luck and enjoy your adventure! :thumbsup:

Susan such nice and warm colors. Very Raphael for sure. Bravo! :clap:

Hey Barb, cool sketch!:clap: :) I found today something about Belini. I shall try to find the link and post here. Those drawings you guys do is so inspiring that I did one myself this week.

Keith, that is awesome! :clap: Pen and INk? I should get some grey watercolor to tonning some paper and try some ink. I think it is ink, right?

Robert thanks so much for sharing that bit with us. That is so lovely. When I stopped by Van Gogh website saw those lovely drawings of him really got me thinking about the way he saw life through art. Amazing isnt it?

Nickel dont say again those names... lolol. I have a reference from another lilac painting from Manet. One of this weeks I squeeze that one in here. :D
Eilleen how wonderfull drawings. Did wonderfull job on the hands. And how cute that rabit. :clap:

Eilleen what does MIA means? Sorry to hear about the recent events. I hope you feeling better now. :heart:

Ok inspired by all of your lovely drawings. You guys do wonderfull job with them. Here I am. I sat to read The Painter's eyes by Loomis and this drawing from George Grosz really interested me to try a sketch of it. First thing I thought was: I never heard of this guy. But his drawing is so classic and beautifull. So just for fun I started it which took me about 30 minutes or so in a paper that is 5 1/2'' X 8''. Just my cheap sketchbook. It turned out quite decent and nice that I decided to post. I hope you guys like.

Figure with Shawl after George Grosz 1938

A little about the artist:

He was German. He studied in the Royal Academy of Art in Dresden. Now that is the interesting part that took me by surprise.
''While in the Academy he specialized in graphic art and started to co-operate with satirical magazines as early as 1910. In 1912 Grosz (then Gross) joined the graphic art course at the College of Arts and Crafts in Berlin. In 1913 he spent several months in Paris at Colarossi's studio. The main subjects of his drawings of the period are crimes and orgies, erotic subjects; his cartoons find publication in "Ulk", "Lustige Blätter" and other periodicals. He also did his first book illustrations and began painting in oils.''
I think it surprises me, because most impressive artists have great knowlege and drawing skills which I think has nothing to do with the style they choose to paint or devote their life. When I was so ignorante about art I used to think that certain styles were so primitive and showed no skills at all. But I was wrong. Picasso, Van Gogh, and so many others which choose to express their art in different ways but again were great artists and knew well how to draw for instance, but they choose to paint different from those who rather have a more detailed or realistic painting. George Grosz is no exception. Grosz lived in a very turbulent time in Europe and he used his art to show about the reality of his days. At that period he participated in the Dada movement. Later in his life, he ended up moving with his family to USA where his life and work changed dramatically and he started teaching.

That was a lovely time I spend in the last couple of hours. Reading the book, stopping to sketch this drawing. Reading this artist biography and come to share with you guys about my week journey. Really enjoyed the trip. Thanks.

03-29-2006, 10:41 PM
Robert - Thanks for that little side bar. I agree completely. I know he is not often associated with the classics but I definately consider him a master when it comes to his art. I chose this sketch because it was one of the few Van Gogh references I had on hand that really demonstrated his drawing ability.

Eileen - Sorry to hear about your friend. We'll keep you and yours in our thoughts and prayers. Thanks for taking the time to share your works though! I really like the hands myself. Very Escher-ish. :) Thanks for you comments on my study.

Rose - Great sketch! You've really captured a lot of depth in the shawl! Bravo! :clap: My sketch was done pen and ink as an under-drawing. I dusted it with charcoal to give it the grey tint. Thanks for your comments as well!

03-30-2006, 07:16 AM
Hi Rose! MIA means 'missing in action.' In other words, I haven't been able to be around WC much lately.

Thanks for your nice comments on my pieces.

Your Grosz study is quite wonderful. I must say, I'd never seen this side of his art. Grosz is one of my favorite artists. When I was in my 20's (many years ago), I was very interested in the Dada movement, and involved in Dada type art 'happenings' at that time. 'Happenings' were what later came to be called Performance Art Events. It was very interesting and lots of fun. Those were great times for me.

03-30-2006, 09:40 AM
". . . for him (Van Gogh) the act of drawing or painting was a way of discovering and demonstrating why he loved so intensely what he was looking at . . . And from this nakedness of his, which his contemporaries saw as naivety or madness, came his capacity to love, suddenly and at any moment, what he saw in front of him. Picking up pen or brush, he then strove to realize, to achieve that love. . . (his drawings) were maps of his love."

That is beautiful Robert thanks for sharing!

on another note - boy you guys have been busy...
I just love all your offerings this week and I'm inspired to hit the paper so to speak.

for bard.. yep I too used to think modern artist were either unable to work classically or unwilling but when studing art it opened my eyes to just how an artist will push himself an evolve - and that is what I have come to appreciate about all of you here. We truly are on an excitng journey - although at times an internal one :)

03-30-2006, 12:21 PM
Rose thanks for the nice words!
I really like how your sketches are fuller and more complex. The passion is flowing in your work! Thanks for the nice introduction to George Grosz :wave:

I agree this journey is so much more, it is a benefit to me to read each comment and view each work; thanks for each and everyone of you! :wave:

03-30-2006, 11:15 PM
nickel...im a little confused:confused: are we able to do the paintings and drawings of the impressionists and post impressionists in our art journey, or just those that drew in the classical way??? eileen...im terribly sorry for the loss of your friend, please take care and do take time to stop and smell the flowers...the hands you drew this week, are wonderfully rendered...but the hare is terrific, great muted colour and simplicity...rose...a very well drawn and quite moving study...tyree:wave:

03-31-2006, 09:04 AM
Thanks for the nice comments, Keith. Escher-ish, eh? I'll have to check that out. Been a long time since I've looked at his art.

Thanks for your comments, too, Susan. Yes, stopping to smell the flowers is very important because too often we take life for granted. My friend was a vibrant, healthy, loving person who slipped on the ice one morning while on her way to class, sustaining a very serious head injury. She had brain surgery and lay in a coma for several weeks, but lost the fight in the end, alas. It's very hard for all of her friends to take in, even now.

Creating art is very healing, though, so I'm very grateful for this project.

03-31-2006, 12:10 PM
Susan, nickel...im a little confused are we able to do the paintings and drawings of the impressionists and post impressionists in our art journey, or just those that drew in the classical way??? lol, I am good at confussing, sorry, I tried but post impressionist are no, impressionist yes, realistic yes, from life yes, anything that is not copywritted we can study, realistic, not that it has to look like a photo but real not like a camera and I feel I am mudding the water more, anything you got in mind, show me, I am not too worried about what we see, how bad am I, did you see that guy streaking by, he was naked.:) not nude. Try and explain nake and nude to a four-year-old child. My daughter, she still don't understand, but she loves her momma. :) So I am trying, but I don't know I am doing so good sometimes.:) I think I saw your wde, didn't you do one with the bikes resting on the wall of a house. That is good, it would be good here. Roses' flower studies are good too! An orginal after Rembrandt is good too. I am much more loose so to speak than controling. How big a problem, I don't know, I love art. I don't think the creative process should be controled. Sound practice in making art should be followed. Fat over lean, those kind of things. This is real life so we do the best we can. I love my friends on this journey. And I love what they show me.:wave: Eileen, another ((big hug)) we never know do we? when the last day is coming.

03-31-2006, 01:02 PM
First of all, Eileen I'm very sorry to hear your sad news. I hope you and your friends can focus on the good memories of your friend as soon as possible.

There is absolutely no excuse for this contribution to our journey except (1) it's clearly classical and (2) I just wanted to have some fun on one of the first really beautiful spring days we've had.

This is a quick (for me) 3-hour version of a little dance scene embedded in Pieter Bruegel the Elder's "The Magpie on the Gallows." Here's a link to the original:


You'll have to zoom in and look to the lower left to see the detail. I think it is amazing to find this energetic fun in such a macabre scene, but that is Bruegel for you. Mine is oil on canvas, about 6"x6". I wasn't really trying to copy as much as I was trying to capture the mood and motion. C/C welcome. I hope you enjoy.



03-31-2006, 07:32 PM
Robert, you definitely captured the mood and the motion. Excellent study. I love Bruegel. I had an enormous print of his 'Peasant Wedding' on my dining room wall many years ago.

Also, thank you so much for your kind words.

03-31-2006, 07:35 PM
nickel...you have streakers in the north pole?:lol: :evil: robert...very playful and nice, so tiny too!!! tyree:clap: :wave: :thumbsup:

03-31-2006, 08:23 PM
Quite a piece you did Robert. You sure achieved what you were after. :)

04-04-2006, 09:01 PM
Robert what a happy painting:clap: I really like it! It makes me smile! Nice to share the view of a spring day!

Hi Susan, I don't know if there are really streakers, I covered my eyes, I just heard them whiz by :D

Hi Eileen, Hi Rose!

I forgot to link to week 14 and post.

week 14 is here http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=337637

Here is my girl.

She may be finished. I know the faults, but I just haven't been back to work on her. :o


04-04-2006, 09:06 PM
Oh Gosh, I love this one, Nickel. She is so aloof (or is that shy?) and elegant. The colors you used are just gorgeous. And the background is beautifully done. Excellent! :thumbsup:

04-04-2006, 09:19 PM
Thanks, what a smile you gave me Eileen! :)

She certainly has given me a royal pain :) :):)

04-04-2006, 09:27 PM
She is coming along beautifully Nickel. What lovely colors. Bravo!!! :) Lots of clapps for you!!! :)

04-04-2006, 09:46 PM
Thanks Rose!

04-04-2006, 10:13 PM
She certainly has given me a royal pain :) :):)

You crack me up, Nickel. :lol:

But I understand completely. I'm going through that kind of pain trying to do this Arab and his dog in color. Sheesh!

04-04-2006, 11:17 PM
Hey Robert! Great work! Especially for the size! Bravo!
Nickel - I agree with the other comments! Beautiful colors on this! I really like the way you've handled the texture in the background. :clap:

04-05-2006, 10:30 AM
Lol Eileen, you crack me too, recon we should get some royal bee crack-up menders! :)

Hey Keith, thanks, I liked the green in the background, that was fun to paint!

04-05-2006, 04:52 PM
My apologies for posting this again, but several people have noted that my images have been very small. With the help of Nickel and Barb, I'm trying to solve the problem and want to test a solution here. I was successful posting to the Oil Painting forum. This is a repeat of my Bruegel painting from last week.


04-05-2006, 05:08 PM
Robert much better size for sure. And nice painting btw. Thanks for reposting again and giving us a chance to see it better. :)

04-05-2006, 05:50 PM
robert....even better...thank you...tyree:clap:

04-05-2006, 07:10 PM
Robert :thumbsup: Bravo! Lovely painting! Two in a row bigger is good! It will be nice to see your work larger. :clap: :clap: :clap: