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Chiers
03-25-2006, 12:37 PM
Another project for painters only. No filters, effects, plugins, cloneing or paintovers please.
Here are you images from the WC library. Paint On!
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Mar-2006/23771-glass_marbles_by_mustcreate.jpg
by mustcreate


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Mar-2006/23771-glassapple.jby_jocelynsart.jpg
by jocelynsart


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Mar-2006/23771-goblet_vase_n_roses_by_Weezy.jpg
by Weezy

justjean
03-25-2006, 01:22 PM
Great choices Sherry :clap:

Elvira
03-26-2006, 09:27 AM
Started this last night, using mainly the acrylic dry brushes, the photo grain brush for some texture and a couple custom brushes from a Fine Art Collection, Filbert A Bristles FN and Dry Scrub Rough. When I put it away last night I guess I couldn't see it anymore as this morning it don't look to awful. I decided to post it as a WIP before I really ruin it LOL. And by the way I'm using the Intous brush tip I just love it!
edie

LadyAlba
03-26-2006, 09:58 AM
Looking good! :thumbsup:

Elvira
03-26-2006, 11:45 AM
And I now call it done, if I play with it anymore I'm sure to ruin it!
Edie

justjean
03-26-2006, 01:18 PM
Edie this looks wonderful :thumbsup:

Elvira
03-26-2006, 02:18 PM
Thank you Jean it was a fun challenge!
Edie

leofaerie17
03-26-2006, 04:02 PM
:wave: :wave: :wave:

Edie, this is brilliant great glass:clap:

LadyAlba
03-26-2006, 04:13 PM
Fantastic finish Edie! I love the reflections! :thumbsup: :wave:

LadyAlba
03-27-2006, 12:04 AM
Here is my start on the marbles I am using the digital airbrush only on this painting on the canvas all freehand which accounts for some of the not so round marbles so far LOL you would not want to play with these! ROFL
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Mar-2006/29951-WIPmarbles1.jpg

Elvira
03-27-2006, 12:06 AM
A great start!!
Edie

Chiers
03-27-2006, 02:21 AM
Edie, terrific job on your glass apple. The reflections in the glass, and on the table are great.

Marge you have a good start on your marbles too. It might be easier to use a selection to get your marbles round. I figure its the equivalent of using tools like stencils, rulers, protracters and such. I don't even attempt a straight line without a ruler, and then I mess it up. I must say though your marbles look pretty darn round already! You are getting good transparency in that blue one so far too.

justjean
03-27-2006, 08:41 AM
Marge your marbles are looking good

Here's an oldie I did this one awhile ago LOL and all freehand so if they are a bit wonky just ignore please :D It took a lot of putting on and taking off to get them to this stage :lol:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Mar-2006/36920-marbles.jpg

TxAggieDarlin
03-27-2006, 09:50 AM
wow, Elvira, that ended up great...........I have to try this...love glass......AND I have done the last one already hehehe...Jean, you have done great on this....I love doing marbles with all the colors...great pick.

Lady, I know you and this is going to be awesome

wooohooo...........I like the idea of this sub forum....Great IDEA

TxAggieDarlin
03-27-2006, 12:01 PM
Just had to run go do that apple.......really enjoyed it.
Done in Painter with a general outline of where the apple and reflection were and then painted with oil, air and blender...I may give it another shot with other medium if get the chance

LadyAlba
03-27-2006, 01:40 PM
Jean...Those are great and you got those cat eyes! :clap: :clap: I finally gave up on mine! LOL

Aggie...You are so sweet and have more faith in my ability than I do! :wave: LOL Your apple...Fantastic!!:clap: :clap:

Here is my finale on the marbles this is as good as it is going to get...you don't realize how close this thing came to the trash bin. LOL It probably would have made it if I had not posted a wip. :lol:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Mar-2006/29951-marbles.jpg

TxAggieDarlin
03-27-2006, 02:17 PM
AND..............I was right, Lady, they turned out great....:thumbsup:

Chiers
03-27-2006, 04:36 PM
Very nice Marge!

Elainepsq
03-27-2006, 11:39 PM
Good job, apples and marbles all!
Here's my playing around with this. I'm not much for painting glass objects and reflections.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Mar-2006/42008-glass-apple.jpg

LadyAlba
03-28-2006, 12:32 AM
Your too hard on yourself Elaine :wave: I think you did a fine job on this and those reflections are there! :thumbsup:

Chiers
03-28-2006, 02:45 AM
Here's my playing around with this. I'm not much for painting glass objects and

I think you did a good job on this Elaine.These projects are a great way to practice the things we have a hard time with and might otherwise avoid aren't they. Thats what I like about the WDEs too.

justjean
03-28-2006, 08:55 AM
Marge, Aggie and Elaine .. what a great bunch of marbles to shoot at those lovely glass apples :thumbsup:

Here's mine, Painter IX, oil pastel and airbrush (outlined the round part of apple :) )


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Mar-2006/36920-glassapple.jpg

LadyAlba
03-28-2006, 09:46 AM
Good one Jean :thumbsup: seems like that apple is popular :wave:

Elainepsq
03-28-2006, 10:18 AM
:thumbsup: Wow, Jean, I'm really impressed with your glass apple!
I was trying to stick with a more realistic acrylic style, and just can't help going back to watercolor, even digitally! I was pretty weary after fighting with this last night, it looks better to me this morning.
Thank you Marge and Sherry for your confidence! Actually, when I look thru my folder, I have done SO much that was outside my comfort zone a few years ago- It's amazing! and it is all of you folks and your challenges and encouragement that I have to thank!:clap: :clap: :clap:

TxAggieDarlin
03-28-2006, 11:03 AM
awww Jean. That is wonderful

Elvira
03-28-2006, 09:31 PM
Nice apples everyone!

Here is my lates WIP.
Screenshots of how I'm working this one. I started by setting up my canvas with a gradient similar to the backgound of the photo. I then sketched the elements and placed it on the top layer. I then paint on a layer between the sketch and the canvas, I use the sketch to check positioning periodically. For this one I have zoom into to about 200% for both the reference and the painting. The first screenshot is my whole desktop.
The second is where I'm working and the third shows the sketch layer.
Edie

Chiers
03-28-2006, 09:44 PM
Jean terrific apple! And the reflection is just as good.

Edie, wow, which is real and which is memorex????? Looking great!

Elvira
03-29-2006, 07:34 AM
Thanks, I just hope I have the patience to finish what I've started. I only get an hour here and there to work on it.
Edie

LadyAlba
03-29-2006, 09:54 AM
This looks like it is going to be a beauty :thumbsup:

justjean
03-29-2006, 05:54 PM
Edie this is just gorgeous :clap: :thumbsup: :clap: , looking forward to the finish

TxAggieDarlin
03-30-2006, 08:54 AM
Elvira, It is looking wonderful..that glass is just perfect..........

I HAVE A QUESTION....about the way you have Painter set up. How did you get just one toolbar at the top and where is the rest? ALSO? How do you get the two pictures side by side and where is the pallet when you work...is it all streched out together, do you have two pictures and the pallet all up at same time?

Elvira
03-30-2006, 09:27 AM
Elvira, It is looking wonderful..that glass is just perfect..........

I HAVE A QUESTION....about the way you have Painter set up. How did you get just one toolbar at the top and where is the rest? ALSO? How do you get the two pictures side by side and where is the pallet when you work...is it all streched out together, do you have two pictures and the pallet all up at same time?

First off I have dual 19" monitors, on my right I have all my paletts/tool bars and also irfranview so I can have a complete view of my reference, on the desktop I'm painting on I have the ref and the painting sideby side zoomed to about 200, this isn't the way I always work but to learn how to do the glass I need to be able to see in detail how the colours work off each other.

Also my husband has built me an extremely fast computer with enough memory to run Painter Irfranview and I usually have MSN running in the background when I'm painting.
Thanks for the comment.
Edie

Elvira
04-02-2006, 08:29 PM
the WIP where I am at so far. I'm finding I can't tell if I've actually been able to caputre what I want until a day after I have worked on it. It seem that glass is one of those things that you can't see after looking at it for too long a time. LOL
Edie

Chiers
04-03-2006, 04:12 AM
Edie this is looking terrific. The glass is great but I like the roses even more.

barryt
04-03-2006, 04:46 AM
That's coming along brilliantly, and I liked your explanation of how you work.

Elvira
04-05-2006, 07:14 AM
Thank you for commenting Sherry and Barry. I probably should have finish this by now but lately I have found myself rather tired when I get home from work and don't seem to have the concentration I need to do much painting, I have this to finish plus an acrylic on canvs stilllife on my easel waiting to be finished LOL. Oh well I had to determined to finish them both before I put them away unlike so many others laying around my harddrive and home half finished. LOL.
Edie

Elvira
04-06-2006, 01:47 PM
I know I'm slow but here is where I'm at today. Edie

Chiers
04-06-2006, 02:10 PM
Edie this may be taking a while but you are doing a terrific job with it! We can wait for the finish.

barryt
04-06-2006, 02:13 PM
Keep going Edie! It's looking fab

LadyAlba
04-06-2006, 05:01 PM
Just got back to this and it is coming along beautifully! :thumbsup:

Elvira
04-06-2006, 07:22 PM
Thanks so much for looking, hopefully I'll get it and an an analogue painting I working on finish by the end of this weekend.
Edie

Elvira
04-07-2006, 10:06 PM
I am going to call it finished as I'm afraid if I do anything more to it at hte momment I'll ruin it.~ LOL

Edie

justjean
04-07-2006, 10:13 PM
:clap::thumbsup: :clap::thumbsup: :clap: :thumbsup: :clap: :thumbsup: :clap::thumbsup: :clap:

LadyAlba
04-08-2006, 12:02 AM
Edie.....WOW...Outstanding!! :clap: :clap: :thumbsup:

barryt
04-08-2006, 04:45 AM
Excellent Edie, one for anyone's wall.

Skinny
04-08-2006, 06:50 AM
Wow Edie, you ACED that one! :clap: :thumbsup: :clap: :thumbsup: :clap:

Elvira
04-08-2006, 06:26 PM
Thanks everyone Here is a detail and a small movie made using my iterative saves.
Edie

justjean
04-08-2006, 07:44 PM
Beautiful Edie :thumbsup: , just a couple of questions :) , did you trace the outlines or use a sketch thingy and what is iterative saves?

Elvira
04-08-2006, 07:49 PM
I use tracing paper function in painter so I have a guide to help in the placement of the colours. Interative save is a function of Painter that allows you to save as you go and I try to save every few minutes so that I do loose stuff should Painter go Poof. I had 27 saves for this image.
Edie

Skinny
04-08-2006, 07:50 PM
COOL! That movie thingy is neat. :cat:

Elvira
04-08-2006, 08:00 PM
COOL! That movie thingy is neat. :cat:
Thanks Skinny, I couldn't get the Painter one to work so I took them into PSP and use Animation shop to make it.
edie

justjean
04-08-2006, 10:25 PM
Thanks Edie I'm always learning there is so much more to learn :)

Chiers
04-11-2006, 01:10 PM
Edie, bravo! Terrific finish.:thumbsup:

nhkitty
05-09-2006, 08:17 AM
WIP-marbles. OK going to give it a go.Using PSP 8.Looks like there is going to be a lot of little dabs and smudges.How many more marbles to go!!!!!!So
far using airbrush/reg brush/smudge brush/lighten darken brush.Going to
try using the opacity to build up layers to get the glassy look.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-May-2006/68081-wip_marbles.jpg

nhkitty
05-09-2006, 08:23 AM
Wonderful!!!!

nhkitty
05-09-2006, 12:17 PM
TG got the last marble done.Now trying to put the shadows in then a few
marble touchups.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-May-2006/68081-wipmarble2.jpg

nhkitty
05-09-2006, 02:29 PM
Marbles done and just before I lost mine.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-May-2006/68081-marbles_done.jpg

nhkitty
05-09-2006, 04:53 PM
Trying the goblet.Know this can never surpass Edie's version which was wonderful but she inspired me to at least try. Using PSP8 and mouse. Got
this far for now.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-May-2006/68081-goblet1.jpg

digistyle
05-09-2006, 06:14 PM
nhkitty
Nice work on the marbles. Very convincing!

Elvira
05-09-2006, 06:54 PM
Trying the goblet.Know this can never surpass Edie's version which was wonderful but she inspired me to at least try. Using PSP8 and mouse. Got
this far for now.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-May-2006/68081-goblet1.jpg
Try having the reference beside your painting and zoom in on both for the specific areas so you can actually see how the colours interact. I posted a screenshot of my workspace when I was doing this one, http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=315617&stc=1&d=1143599424

I see I don't have the same area zoomed in the screenshot but that is how I was able to get it the way I did. I used the trace to make correction when I go thing out of place.

Thanks Sherry and nhkitty for the compliments!

Edie

Annie*M
05-09-2006, 11:05 PM
These are wonderful. Glass is so difficult. The marbles are very realistic.

nhkitty
05-10-2006, 12:58 PM
Got this far with the goblet.Starting to look a little glassyI think.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-May-2006/68081-wipgoblet.jpg

Elvira
05-10-2006, 01:07 PM
Nhkitty you sure are getting the glassy look. One thing I discovered I had to do with these was to quit working on them for awhile in fact sometimes I thought I had totally screwed up, I'd put it away and the next day I'd be amazed at what I had done.
You are doing just great!!!!!!!!
Edie

nhkitty
05-11-2006, 11:29 AM
Goblet and vase done.Whew!!Didn't bother to texture the background.This
was as close as I could get-can't spend the rest of my life dabbing at this.
Great exercise in doing glass though.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-May-2006/68081-goblet.jpg

nhkitty
05-11-2006, 08:33 PM
d---t now that I look at it the stupid flower to the lower right doesn't
look exactley right

nhkitty
05-11-2006, 08:36 PM
I think it is the leaves

LadyAlba
05-11-2006, 11:24 PM
Beautiful reflective glass work! ;o)

Elvira
05-12-2006, 10:33 AM
nhkitty, you aced this!
Edie