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03-11-2006, 05:05 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Mar-2006/39040-hi.gif Welcome to week 11 of Classical Art Card Journey. :wave: If you have any questions about what to do, just ask, we pretty much find someone to do a study from, may not even know who it is, but we are working at our skills, and sharing a good time learning about classical art. If you need help in finding someone to study just ask. Everyone here is very friendly and helpful. Size and media is your choice. A link to your artist is appreciated if you have one. A little background on the artist or time period is good too! Hope everyone finds something this week to excite and inspire us all!
Your pal, Nickel:)

03-13-2006, 10:57 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Mar-2006/65063-gerom.jpg Egyptian Water Carrier...1882..Jean Leon Gerome...French Orientalist painter...1824-1904...graphite on vellum...most of my sketches have been from the ARC 225 most popular artists site that was provided by our hostess NICKEL...There are alot of interesting paintings by Gerome, if you do check out this site!!! Tyree;)

03-13-2006, 01:48 PM
Very nice Susan, I like the way you have her sketched. She is like she is coming out of the darkness, and she got caught! :D Either that or she is giving me the eye cause I haven't paid for my water yet:lol: I like her alot. You have a beautiful way of showing emotion in your sketches. She is lovely! :) Great JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup:


03-14-2006, 05:33 PM
Oh it is not week 10th anymore it is the 11th!!

Cool drawing Susan. I will check out Gerome. Infact I think I had a book I downloaded on him, not sure where I left it. I will try to find the link. You guys may like checking it out.

Nickel's have converted me to florals after Valentine. So I am not sure I will continue with landscapes. I loved Knight's work, but have to admit his paintings are with lots of work and work on small support does not help. Maybe on day when I have a chance to get my hands on good books 19th artists, I may get a good chance to get that one studied again.

Not sure yet though what I will study this week. Lets see!! :)

03-14-2006, 09:24 PM
Lol, Rose, Nickel could almost be a flower child, hehe, now you!!! :) Welcome to the posey club or peonie club, your choice. :wave: If you figure out what posey is from down in Brazil, you are not so far away from southern folk. :lol: I guess you are more southern than I am. So let's see you paint a flower for week 11! :wave: Nickel ((ps, hope you feel better))

03-15-2006, 12:13 PM
Lolol Nickel. Yep I have a pretty good clue of what to paint for this week. Hang on I will be back. :)

03-16-2006, 09:45 AM
Good morning, everyone.

Week #11 has proven to be a real challenge to me. A friend gave me a set of colored pencils and oil pastels, and I decided to try my hand with the pencils first. The attached is my attempt to copy Titian's Venus Anadyomene. A link to the original can be found here:

I don't have a clue what I am doing, so please bear with me. I started with a very faint grid and sketched the image in with a #2 black pencil. I then began laying in some middle values and worked from there to darks and lights. I had twenty colors to work with, and drew on a Mead sketch paper I have for drawing. I have no idea about the quality of the pencils. My greatest difficulty was getting any density in my colors, particularly the darkest values. I tried to use what I have learned about color in oil painting to establish shadows and skin tones, which may or may not be the way to go. At any rate, I've got about four-to-five hours in this and I'm going to put it aside for now. It probably should be a WIP, but I'm calling it finished. I'll try the pencils again after I've studied some. Also, the scan is pretty unforgiving of the errors I've made.

Thanks for looking, and I welcome any advice or criticism.



03-16-2006, 08:12 PM
robert...shes a beauty..dont touch a thing....tyree:clap: :wave: :clap: :thumbsup:

03-16-2006, 09:20 PM
Did you enjoy the cps Robert? I really like them when I want to relax, they are the ones I take to use in front of the tv. It is like kids time, but you still can produce niice works of art. Hope you liked your first endevours. I am not expert, but a thing I have learn with cps it all depends on the type of the paper you use and all about layers. I keep trying out this paper, that paper to find out what kind of effect I like more. Good luck playing around more with the new medias. You did well with you art card. Well done!! She is lovely.

I have started the block in of my floral painting after George Latour today. I used liquin so should be ok to start working with opaque colors tomorrow or day after. Hope it turns as nice as Latour did his. :)

Where is the rest of this gang?? Hope you all doing well this week. :)

03-16-2006, 09:36 PM
Hi Rose, Hi Susan, Hi Robert, I don't have a clue about color pencils and do use them the same as you, using what I know from painting. Check out this thread in the classical channel, wip, you will enjoy seeing her work. http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=321675.

Your Venus is very nice and I think you did a great job!!!!!!!:thumbsup:
She is beautiful! Very nice proportion.

Rose look forward to seeing your floral. I have dragged my feet on my art journey, been working on my study of Leighton's style. Robert would get a smile out of this; I gave my girl a name! :D I understand more about Leighton's composition, it is ok, interesting, I will have to wait till the end to form an opinon.:)


03-17-2006, 09:05 PM
Tyree, I love your study of this piece. Beautifully done. And thanks for introducing me to this artist. I love his subject matter. I'll be doing some studies from his work for sure.

Robert, you did a fine job on your study. Very lovely! Rose is so right about cps--your paper probably didn't have enough tooth. But even if it did, it takes many, many light layers to build up color. A person can spend many, many hours/days on just one piece.

03-17-2006, 09:15 PM
Robert I really like what you have done. It looks pretty true to form as far as colored pencils go. Very well rendered. Many people will layer strokes side byside or do pointalisim to mix the color so the eye can do the rest. Colored pencil also is great when used with opaque water color as a texturizer. Good job.

Susan your woman is very interesting... I like it.
Maybe I get something done tonight... maybe.
Take care barb

03-18-2006, 12:29 AM
This is my Roman Lady, I will be working more on her.


My study reference



03-18-2006, 12:03 PM
I have thought of sketching out some sculpture pics. They do seem to make good studies for light and shadow. Maybe to find cheap ones around down should be cool too.

Nice practice Nickel! I am still working on my study after Latour. I can see now that my lilacs are too warm and may a glaze of purplish color would help? I am not used with so light bg. This is desaturated color with lots os white.

How do this colors read to you guys? I dont know. Do you think that is just the fact of the warm color in the lilics the problem or is there something else?

George Latour Painting Lilacs cropped


03-18-2006, 01:27 PM
Hi Rose, your lilacs make me smile, thank you!!!

You asked about color, I think I have seen lilacs that shade, ((I think))
But I have seen then too the darker shade.

I think to come closer to George Latour feel, maybe what would you think about grayer greens? I don't know for sure, I see a little more gray green in his. But I don't know if I would change yours to match his. Yours has more a Brazilan feel :D

03-18-2006, 01:34 PM
Thanks Nickel. Now you put the smile on my face. I am still need to work a bit more I think, not satisfied yet. Thanks for the suggestion of the green grey. I may add a bit more of darks there. I have lost it between some leaves. :)

03-18-2006, 01:37 PM
Tightened up, maybe too much too soon,


She is also part of this painting, but mixed with Faustina. This morning I was told she has a "marcel" do:p

A Roman Lady (La Nanna) of 1859
Frederic Leighton


and here is an image of Faustina on a Roman Coin


Faustina the Elder
Marble, second half of the 2nd century CE


03-18-2006, 05:28 PM
Love how you using it on the painting. It does give a touch of yourself. What is a Marcel Nickel?

03-18-2006, 06:53 PM
Lol, Rose, a touch of me, how sweet! Bumbs, and warts, and all! :D

You will get a kick out of "marcel" look about half way down the page link


Week 12 is here you hearty travelers http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4449511#post4449511

:wave: Nickel

I found this site too, it tells hair trends and explains how to spot them.


03-18-2006, 07:19 PM
nickel...a very classic roman pose, well done... you pick such different and interesting studies each week.. im thinking about trying some egyptian work!!! thanks for the inspiration...rose...vivid beautiful lilac...my mother had lilac in her backyard in kentucky..it was a soft violet with a medium dark foilage,,,in springtime the colour and smell were wonderful!!! tyree:wave:

03-19-2006, 01:38 AM
I finally finished my sketch for week 11. I took it from "Dante's Divine Comedy"
better known as Dante's Inferno. This sketch he finds himself walking through a forest of Harpies in the Forrest of the Suicides.. yuck I know. But it was a challenge. Here is a link to the story.. http://danteworlds.laits.utexas.edu/utopia/index2.html
the art originally was an etching by Gustave Dore


03-19-2006, 01:04 PM
Thanks Susan, I enjoy our journey!

Barbara, you are rocking good. :thumbsup:

Which level is this?

Scary story, but I love your sketch!

Great job with the values, love the darks!!!!


03-21-2006, 10:43 PM
I'm playing catch up now. :rolleyes: Got pretty sick over the past week so I am trying to get some posts up that are "past due." :lol:

I don't have a link to the ref as it was from a library book, but I studued a little from J.M.W. Turner. Here in Shade and Darkness: the Evening of the Deluge Turner was experiementing with Goethe's (a German poet) theory of color. These "minus" colors of blues, blue-greens, and purples, in Goethe's theory, representled "restless, susceptible, anxious impressions." I can kind of get the sense of that in what I'd come up with. :p
Here was my week 11:

03-22-2006, 08:36 AM
Keith, this is a fascinating piece. What size is it? I'm going to do some Turner research to try to find the original, and read a bit about Goethe' theory. Thanks a lot.


03-22-2006, 09:40 AM
Wow Barb, Dore's work is definetely something. Good job on the drawing. :)

Keith sorry to hear you were not feeling well. Glad that you are better now. That is quite interesting about Turner experience with color. Nice piece!

03-22-2006, 11:22 AM
Keith nice synergy! Bravo on your study, as you have a Turner effect.

03-22-2006, 10:04 PM
Keith, this is a fascinating piece. What size is it? I'm going to do some Turner research to try to find the original, and read a bit about Goethe' theory. Thanks a lot.


Robert - My piece is about 10 x 10. I'm not sure about the original. The book I found this in was from the Tim-Life Library of Art titled "The World of Turner." They have "The World of..." for a ton of different artists. It would be great to add to you library, but I just went to the local branch. :D

He also did a "sister" piece to this called Light and Color: the Morning after the Deluge. It used Goethe's "plus" colors of reds, yellows, and greens which were representative of warmth and happiness. If I can come across anything on the net, I'll let you guys know. ;)

03-22-2006, 11:45 PM
barb...a very haunting image!!!! keith...an interesting work, like the bold colour!!! tyree:clap: :wave:

03-23-2006, 09:56 AM
I found a couple of links for anyone who wants to read a little about Goethe'' theory of color.

The first link is kind of limited stuf but still interesting. There's a link at the top right that clicks over to some info about Newton's experiments too.http://webexhibits.org/colorart/ch.html

The second is pretty in depth and I'll admit that I didn't read this one. At least not yet.

Oh, And try this to see Turner's originals: http://www.victorianweb.org/painting/turner/paintings/evening.html

03-23-2006, 04:42 PM
Thanks for the link Keith. I enjoyed the tour on the first link very much. Lots of good info there too. :)