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02-21-2000, 02:32 PM
Hello, All! Does any know anything about the Gordon School of Art's drawing program? Any suggestions for learning to draw?
Thanks in advance!
02-21-2000, 10:43 PM
Look and look. Draw and draw and draw and then draw some more.
Visual skills basically stop at age 6 for most people. We have a lot of catching up to do.
Ther are a lot of books out there, but the best teacher is the object. Start small. take a leaf and study it and draw it and then draw it again. have fun.
try reading a book on drawing by federick franck.
02-23-2000, 07:29 PM
Thanks for answering my question. I know it's time to get busy with pencil and paper. I've been oil painting for several years now, but it feels incomplete to me because I don't know how to draw. I want very much to start with a good drawing OF MY OWN and paint from there! Wish me luck!
02-24-2000, 08:13 AM
It's always good advice to suggest studying objects and drawing as a way to learn to draw, but I always think this is akin to learning to play piano by starting with J.S. Bach. I too have received this advice, and I got no where with it. My most productive approach was to ask instead, "When I go to draw, what am I supposed to be learning?" "What does it mean for a drawing to look real?" "What do I have to give the viewer so that he says, 'That looks real?'" I figure that I have to achieve the following goals for the viewer:
Indicate the components of the object. Eg for the hand say, indicate where all the digits and joints are located.
Indicate what is in front of what. It the case of the hand, you can use the edges of the joints to "go in front of" or "go behind" the other joints.
for each object, unambiguously indicate which sides of that object you are seeing, top left right....
Make certain that each object vanishes to the same horizon line.
To me, the best way to study for this is to develop a mental mannequin like model of whatever you are drawing-- I use little light ovals that indicate the sides-- and then draw over this. This is a layered approach. First indicate volumes, and relation to the horizon line, then indicate details, by drawing in the overlapping edges. Anatomy is a great way to learn about the details for human figure drawing, but you don't have to be a doctor. With anatomy, I found it best to learn about insertions, because that is what creates the lines that indicate that something is in front of or behind something else. Learning to draw for me was a treasure hunt, where you need to know what treasure you are looking for before you start looking!
[This message has been edited by dhenton (edited February 24, 2000).]
02-25-2000, 12:52 AM
utzpa...I believe many life-drawing classes help..I found quick gestural drawings very liberating and less demanding than lengthy 30 minute studies.
Just draw often..as often as you have time. One of my favorite classes was expressive drawing..it seemed to open doors..I was VERY hard on myself for years..always wanted display that sought-after draftsmanship. The more you draw, the more confidence you will build. The fun begins when (well, for me anyway)...you move away from the academics of the classroom..are begin to truly draw what you FEEL about the things you see or experience. Of course a foundation..to include basic structure..VALUES (thank you Bruin70!!!!!)..are learned over time.
Harry Carmean (who taught classical figure drawing at Art Center)..was a big influence for me..his line...volumes..shapes....his classroom studies were just great.
utzpa..hope this helps you a little.
02-25-2000, 05:06 PM
painting is just drawing value; mass drawing with some color thrown in. if you think of it this way you'l realize you have been drawing all along. some people relate to drawing better in masses and some like line work.
you don't necessarily have to work with a pencil. get out the charcoal and paint with it!
03-10-2000, 04:48 AM
I agree with the suggestion of gesture drawing. there is no substitute for this. no time to think or to stiffen up. get someone to pose for you - any way they like, nude if they have the courage. draw them in 6 seconds. not one second more. get them to pose again. 6 seconds only you have to draw. do this over and over. move on then to 30 seconds. this will seem like eternity. 1 minute? far more time than you need to catch all that the pose has to offer you. do this every day. 6 seconds, 30 seconds and 1 minute. get a huge pad of newsprint and draw big. use charcoal or a very soft pencil. you will soon know the human form better than those who have studied anatomy books their whole lives.
07-03-2002, 03:44 PM
TinTin's idea could work wonders. I would also imagine that going to a park, and quickly working out those sketches of people would be another way to develop a quick and dirty feel for the human form (quick and dirty because people are most likely going to be shifting and moving).
There are however people at the parks who are sitting, reading, lying down, talking with others.
This is a valuable learning method that I will approach and work with.
A few here suggested life drawing. That is great advice! Anyone who seriously into drawing will tell you that there is no substitute for drawing from a life model. I'd begin by asking art clubs, art supply, or universities about some in your area and take as many as you can stand and then some. The teacher and students will give you good advice and lousy advice, try it all so you can find out which is which. The main thing is to learn to "see", and life drawing is like boot camp for that.
07-03-2002, 11:40 PM
There are some really helpful drawing tutorials on line here. Check them out and see what you come up with. I found them tremendously helpful.
The other thing to do is post your work in the drawing forum and ask for people's suggestions.
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