View Full Version : "Shade" [Progress pics]
02-01-2002, 09:57 AM
Finally back to sculpting. I ordered some Winterstone two months ago. I designed this sculpture titled "Shade" specifically for the Winterstone medium. Winterstone works much like clay. Today I hope to apply my first coat of Winterstone to the frame. Here is a look at my armature progress
More to come soon......
02-01-2002, 11:57 AM
I just finished the first coating of Winterstone. It took me about an hour. I will let this sit for about 3 or 4 hours and then I will begin to build up and begin to create the final shape.
More to come soon.....
02-01-2002, 12:07 PM
This should be a very interesting piece - visually it's got a lot of action taking place. Also, I just visited your website. Boy, I really like that 'Inside' piece you're doing. I'm sure it's going to turn out great. Are you going to stain the wood, sand it, or just leave it rough? Keep up the great work!
02-01-2002, 12:28 PM
Hi Yielding, hey this looks really great I was hoping you'd do something with the Winterstone. What a proper looking armature you have here it looks very stable. :cool:
The Winterstone looks fiberious does it go on pretty easily or have you had to fight it. :evil: How many coats will you need to apply to reach the effect you want? Or is it a decide as you go? Is there much odor, and did you have to wear rubber gloves?
Can't wait to see the next progress images, thanks for shareing with us. :clap:
Post Note: About your images not showing I've had that happen to me also. I think it might be the quanity/size of the images allowed per page. I'll ask Di or you can too, shes pretty savey on what and what cannot be done on these threads.:D
02-01-2002, 12:46 PM
Glad to see you are back to sculpting. This is going to be terrific! Thanks for posting all the progress images. Before I forget perhaps I can help you with the image problem you are having. They changed the WC format a while ago and now if you use the IMG thing you get links. If you want the pics to show up in the post (and we do!) use the "uploader" link located at the top of the page. You upload then copy & paste into your thread. You can use it for one pic...or for multiples just hit the back button on it and upload your 2nd image etc. You could could always go back into your earlier posts with the edit link and fix them if you want the pics to show.
Now for my question. Are you cutting the grooves in the piece so that the next layer will have something to bite into? It's necccessary with other mediums so I'm curious if it helps with winterstone also. How do you like it to model with? What's the texture like? This is looking great and I can't wait to see what the next pics will bring.
02-01-2002, 06:15 PM
Jeff - Thanks for the comments, wanted to say welcome to the sculpture forum too. I have seen your post over the past month: I am not that big on nudes but you most definatly have the talent to scultp - keep up the good work! - I just moved so the "inside" piece will take me some time to get back too. I am not going to stain, I am trying to get away from staining wood, I want to keep it as natural as possible. Also I am going to keep it rough with the wood carving strokes.
Kathy - The armature worked great, thanks to seeing what you used on your horse. THe wintestone is a bit messy, well very messy. I gets all over you hands and tends to stick unless you keep some water near by to keep things a bit wet. I am making this right by the sink so I have plenty of water when needed. But when it dries a bit that is when it is more like clay. You can spray it with water and then smooth things out with your fingers. I have coated it twice now (see second coat pic below) and I will more than llikly put two more on. The edges still need some thinkcness. I need 1/8 thick above the armature and wire mesh. The thicker the better than I can begin to carve on it and make the final shape I want. But I am making deciosn as I go too. No oder and I did not wear gloves. It says to if you have sentivive skine. I really dont but my fingers look like I have been in the bath tub for an hour or so. Pruned up!
Di - Thanks for the tips on the images - got it now. You turn your head for a month around here and they change it on you. I did cut groves in the piece for that reason - but I found now that I have put on the second coat that I can make the groves after it dries more - I have up 5 to 10 hours where I can make groves, carve or what ever I want. After 24 hours it is hard as a rock. But you can still add layers after it dires all the way.
So far I really like it, the texture is like very fine sand, it has a gritty feal to it. But you can sand it down and give it a polished surface when it is all dry. I am not really to the model part, just layering so far, but from what I can tell it will model well.
All - Here is a pic of one more layer and some work on the base.
Thanks for all the coments and questions - keep them coming.
02-01-2002, 07:42 PM
Hi Yielding boy your not wasting any time good for you:clap: Thank you for answering all my questions:D looking forward to following your progress. Glad to hear it doesn't have an odor!
Glad you got your images showing in the thread isn't that Di a ace!:angel: :clap:
02-01-2002, 09:51 PM
When you say, "hard as a rock", is it durable enough to be used outdoors? And is it heavy?
02-01-2002, 11:07 PM
It can stay out doors. If out side all the time with wind rain and snow it will last about 100 years.
02-04-2002, 10:38 AM
What an interesting piece - and it looks like you're having fun with this Winterstone.
Will it stay this white after it's dried hard?
Can you color some of it as you work with it and give it a marble look?
02-04-2002, 11:02 AM
Hey Jeff, that thing is looking pretty sweet!! Any chance we can get some more angle on that? I really like the movement in that piece. Looking great!!!
02-04-2002, 11:47 AM
Surfinia - yes it will stay white - but you can add metallic mixtures to the WS mix to add color. Will try that later.
Jason - what do you mean by angle? (picture angle?) if so I will post more pics tonight - did a little more on Sunday.
02-04-2002, 04:59 PM
Yeah, I'd love to see some more photo angles of that thing!
02-04-2002, 08:10 PM
Ok.... here is a bunch of views. I have put a few more layers on. I am not finished yet. There is still parts of the sculpture I'm not happy with ( part of the top needs some shaping). After final shape I will begin sanding it down to a smooth finish and then finally polish. As always comments (good or bad) welcome.
Would like to know what you think it looks like?
02-04-2002, 08:42 PM
Yielding..great start and thanks for all the insight on how you went about the process. Questions: for the armature, is that expanded aluminum wire; does Winterstone carve, sand with normal tools; is it very much like cement or more like plaster to work?
I attended a workshop several years ago on cement sculpting. It didn't seem like something that I would have much success with but the winterstone might be the answer. I have several abstract sculpture drawing ideas (about 5 or 6 years ago) and was always put off with the cement and know that plaster will not weather. 100 years might be too long for one of my works to hang around though:D
02-04-2002, 09:22 PM
Giant mixer blades with white icing---yummy! :D
02-04-2002, 09:26 PM
Thanks for posting the different view. I have a better idea of what it is now. Love the shape and all the curves.
02-05-2002, 10:43 AM
Questions: for the armature, is that expanded aluminum wire; does Winterstone carve, sand with normal tools; is it very much like cement or more like plaster to work?
I used wire for electric fences that I purchased from a farm and fleet store, this works great. Then I have some small wire too that I use if needed.
You can carve and sand with normal tools. You let it sit for about 3 hours and then your can carve into it. I guess you could just make a big glob of it and then start carving into it you wanted. You have up to 24 hours to carve. You can extend this time if you keep it wet After in dries you can sand and use files if you want.
Cement or plaster? Lets see.... I would say a mix between the two. It does have Portland cement in it and other stuff. I will look at it tonight and send you the ingredients.
Hope that helps.
02-05-2002, 11:41 AM
WOW you've been busy while I was off here all weekend! This is looking goooood! You know...this reminds me a little of the inside of one of those small spiral shells I used to find along the riverside years ago. This has some really great planes and lots of places for the eye to dance around!! Looks like you are enjoying the Winterstone very much.
For anyone interested in carving cement-like materials have you tried making "Hypertufa" (a combination of cement, perlite (garden supply) & peat moss)? I taught several workshops on this in the past and it's great fun to work with. Like this though, if you want to carve it you might want to fill a lined box etc and take it out after hardening slightly to carve. The Winterstone is easily smoothed it appears.
Anyway I just wanted to say how lovely this piece is going to be Yeilding. Keep up the good work! :clap:
02-05-2002, 01:16 PM
Yielding, congratulations this is really looking nice can't wait to see it finished and polished (will it look kind of like marble?). I especially like the flowing lines the first image reminded me of an abstract dancer rotating in a flowing gown. Yeah I have a good imagination!:cool:
Thank you for sharing your progress with us!:clap:
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