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khia
12-02-2005, 09:28 AM
I was wondering if any of you also use only Photoshop. I've seen that many use Painter, the results are quite different, well, to me anyway, because Painter has brush types that imitate pretty well real brush strokes.
The point of my question? To find tips to better use Photoshop, compare techniques used, learn... I'm a graphic designer, so Photoshop doesn't hold too many secrets from me, but when it comes to "painting" that's another story! Thanks! :clap:

Skinny
12-02-2005, 10:42 AM
Hmmm, you probably won't find many who use ONLY Photoshop, though many who do some touch up work in Photoshop.

Elainepsq
12-02-2005, 10:55 AM
I use mainly photoshop, since that it is my comfort zone. I started doing manipulations, and worked into complete painting. I've only gotten into Painter because of this forum. I've had Painter for years, but just found it to have too many palettes, and too hard to predict what the brushese were going to do. Now I tend to start in painter for the looser underpainting, and then go into Photoshop where I feel I have more control.
Although there's lots of tutorials for Photoshop on the web, I don't think many deal directly with painting. My advice would simply be pick up a wacom and paint. The Challenges in this forum, and doing the WDEs has helped me alot. Just forcing me to try new subjects has made me come a long way!

Einion
12-02-2005, 05:50 PM
Hi Steph, there are many digital artists on deviantArt that paint in Photoshop and there are quite a few how-tos on the site. It's a little difficult to navigate so here's the link to the appropriate section: click me! (http://resources.deviantart.com/tutorials/ps/)

There are also a huge selection of custom brushes (http://resources.deviantart.com/applications/psbrushes/) and textures (http://resources.deviantart.com/textures/) posted which can be useful for creating work that looks a little more 'organic'. You might also like to have a look at the patterns (http://resources.deviantart.com/applications/patterns/) section for Photoshop.

Einion

jhercilia
12-02-2005, 06:40 PM
You can find a bunch of Photoshop tutorials here:
http://www.steeldolphin.com/tutorials_photoshop.php
http://www.photoshoplab.com/
http://www.photoshopcafe.com/

You could also benefit from the book:
The Photoshop and Painter Artist Tablet Book, Creative Techniques in Digital Painting
from Cher Threinen-Pendarvis - ISBN#0-321-16891-7

In the book Cher explains how to build brushes and how to use the brushes to mimic the brushes in Painter.

leofaerie17
12-02-2005, 07:29 PM
:wave: :wave: :wave:

Steph check out this forum its great and they use Photoshop a lot most of the tuts for painting are photoshop or PSP
http://www.innographx.com/forum/index.php

khia
12-03-2005, 11:15 AM
Hey, thank you all for all the info! You guys are great, I don't have painter, but that's not a problem for me, I'm quite happy with Photoshop, especially now i have all these links!

Smokin
12-03-2005, 03:33 PM
There are FAR more tutorials for PS than Painter, so you shouldnt have a prob finding more. But the programs are really similar and the tuts can really be followed by both users most of the time.

Jet
12-05-2005, 06:08 AM
Steph, Hi!!
I use ONLY PhotoShop too..

Please take a look at my help thread Tips and tutes for Digital Art (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192439) for many many links to PhotoShop Tutorials.:)
Or
Go to Innographx's PhotoArt tutorials forum (http://www.innographx.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=5), with many creative step-by-step tutorials. I am the Mod. of that forum .:cool:

Pieces made from those tutorials can be found at my Digital Art gallery (http://www.pbase.com/jet_liera/galleries) .- You're welcome to take a peek.... ;)

You'll have your hands full for quite a while...:D

Kind Regards
:wave:

cricket in malibu
12-06-2005, 08:39 PM
I use only Photoshop. IME, it does a better job of rendering realistic water colors than Painter (I do have Painter, but rarely use it).
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Dec-2005/18881-bejeweled.jpg

Cricket

jhercilia
12-07-2005, 12:32 AM
I use only Photoshop. IME, it does a better job of rendering realistic water colors than Painter (I do have Painter, but rarely use it).
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Dec-2005/18881-bejeweled.jpg

Cricket
Did you paint it with a brush or did you use a filter for the watercolor look?

Skinny
12-07-2005, 06:21 AM
WELCOME, Cricket! That IS a very good watercolor look...:)

cricket in malibu
12-07-2005, 11:16 AM
Did you paint it with a brush or did you use a filter for the watercolor look?

I used the pattern stamp/brush. The pencil lines I did using the photocopy filter. Then I painted using the pattern stamp.

Cricket

Einion
12-07-2005, 10:20 PM
I'd echo that, very good watercolour effect Cricket - and nice painting too :)

Einion

licia0912
12-07-2005, 10:50 PM
I dont use anything for painting but Photoshop. Illustrator makes some interest pieces with an art deco feel...but for painting...photoshop all the way!! You can make some brushes that similate watercolor, oils, acrylic....just need to know the right settings...or experiment!

khia
12-09-2005, 05:32 AM
Gosh, thank you all for the links and info! I have a lot of reading to do now!

@Jet - Thanks for all those links, and yep, you are rihgt, i'll be doing a lot of reading in the next couple of days!

@Cricket - great watercolor effect, i'm going to have to try and learn to do that, thanks for explaining!

@Licia - I think I'll have to experiment a bit, I've never made my own brushes, well at least not for paint effects.

artesplasticas
12-10-2005, 10:15 PM
I'm new to Digital Painting and use only Photoshop up to this moment. I decided to really learn it first before trying another one. And I still have some troubles, for instance to make convincent trees (mainly their branches and coconut trees). Also to blend the colors without using the smudge tool. I've heard some persons say not to use the smudge tool very much but I still find it difficult to blend colors simply with the brush tool.
Maria Ester

cricket in malibu
12-11-2005, 01:08 PM
I've heard some persons say not to use the smudge tool very much but I still find it difficult to blend colors simply with the brush tool.
Maria Ester

You can get the colors to blend in a convincing way by putting the different colors on different layers and then changing the opacity.

Cricket

Skinny
12-11-2005, 06:28 PM
What a great tip, Cricket! Thanks.

artesplasticas
12-12-2005, 02:18 PM
You can get the colors to blend in a convincing way by putting the different colors on different layers and then changing the opacity.

Cricket
Thanks. I'll try as you suggest. Let's see.
Maria Ester

tomnackid
12-12-2005, 06:05 PM
I use Photoshop only. I tried out painter and I hated it. If I want something that looks like an oil painting or a watercolor I would paint in oils or watercolor! Beside I think what comes out of Painter--with a few exceptions--typically looks like a poor imitation of natural media (IMHO).

jhercilia
12-12-2005, 06:23 PM
I used the pattern stamp/brush. The pencil lines I did using the photocopy filter. Then I painted using the pattern stamp.

Cricket
Thanks. Looks very good.

jhercilia
12-12-2005, 06:26 PM
I use Photoshop only. I tried out painter and I hated it...
LOL, that's funny! Your comment doesn't doesn't go along with your signature quote.

At the beginning, when Painter came out, I used to hate it too, but it wan't until I spent the needed time that managed to get the results I wanted. Don't give up!

Hisart
12-19-2005, 10:51 PM
I use only PhotoShop Elements 2.
Here is a piece (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4153326#post4153326)I did on the Fantasy/SciFi art channel.

I do have Corel Painter Essentials 2, but I never use it ... too plastic painter for me.:D

Elainepsq
12-19-2005, 11:04 PM
Tomnackid, I have to agree with Janet, when I first got painter I was frustrated with it too. I still am back on painter 4, because I want to feel real confident with that before spending money on the upgrade. I've gotten into using it by following this forum and trying some of the challenges. Keep trying. As I said early on in the thread, there are some things that Photoshop will do, that I can't do in painter. But the opposite is true also.

Jet
12-19-2005, 11:50 PM
I use Photoshop only. I tried out painter and I hated it. If I want something that looks like an oil painting or a watercolor I would paint in oils or watercolor! Beside I think what comes out of Painter--with a few exceptions--typically looks like a poor imitation of natural media (IMHO).
Tom, hi!!

To be fair, you can easily get great results in Painter, so good that some have been posted at the 'oils forum', being taken for real oils; That until some digital artist has caught the difference and telling about it!!

There are some links to great tutorials posted by Jin all over this forum, and you can try The Digital Library (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=331)

:o...Oops, This is getting out of topic now....let's get back to PhotoShop ...aahem!!.:angel:

Regards
:cool:

digitaleyes
12-20-2005, 11:25 AM
I work mostly with PhotoShop, since that is what I started with. There is a serious misconception that PhotoShop is only for photo-manipulation. It is a fully developed program that allows for creativity and innovation. PhotoShop fits my creative needs and my ever-growing collection of custom brushes works well for my abstracts.

DeviantART (http://www.deviantart.com) is a good place to get inspiration as well as to see impressive experimental digital art.

Grafico
12-20-2005, 02:14 PM
I've learned one thing after all these years; use that who you feel most comfortable with. For me that turned out to be Photoshop.