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LilKitten
01-28-2002, 04:55 AM
Hey all :) I've been lurking for a while and just dropped 8 bids on Ebay. now this is my first time auctioning anything on Ebay, and hope I've done everything right, but was wondering if someone older 'n wiser could check a bid or two out and let me know?

I do know the first one has a couple of spelling errors in it :rolleyes: but I think I've cleared that up in the revised editions. I have about 30 more pieces to post and was hopeing to get some sort of general consensus.

Thank you VERY much :)

LilKitten :angel:

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=carolinetigeress&include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=25

sportpony
01-28-2002, 10:14 AM
Checked several listings and don't see anything obvious. The large/ bright red type on some of the listings were more difficult for me to read (had to scroll down) but that may be my personal preference. Like to look and read everything at once.

The only thing I noticed was on the first one "full sheet" WC was stated but couldn't find the actual size. Would non-artists normally know what size this was?

kjsspot
01-28-2002, 10:24 AM
Hi ya from a fellow Ebay Sisters member!! =) I see Rocky got first dibs on your painting. She only bought from a few of us so far, so congrats!! <g> BUT I hope she gets outbid, because THAT painting is worth a LOT more than your opening bid!!

I see you've placed several out there at once. That's a good thing. Buyers like to see multiple auctions. Also, if you have any photo software on your computer, I'd recommend cropping your photos. The other stuff in the photo is distracting and you want your full space online to be photo only.

I don't know how long that first picture took you but it sure looks like it took a while. I'd hate to see it go for that low.

kjsspot
01-28-2002, 11:25 AM
Oh! And a minor technicality. <g> You didn't drop 8 bids, you listed 8 auctions. <g> They BUYER does the bids. <g> Just an FYI. ;)

tammy
01-28-2002, 11:46 AM
In regards to the red print I agree with sportpony. I've heard from many people that if they even see print that is of a color they have a hard time reading that they will not even finish looking at the auction, much less bid.
Another tip I've learned is you could put the photo of what you are selling up first and then the description etc under it. People usually would like to see what your selling more than the description of it.
You do have some bids. Congratulations.

LilKitten
01-28-2002, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by kjsspot
I don't know how long that first picture took you but it sure looks like it took a while. I'd hate to see it go for that low. [/B]

20-25 hours. I'm just happy to have gotten bids!

LilKitten
01-28-2002, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by sportpony
The only thing I noticed was on the first one "full sheet" WC was stated but couldn't find the actual size. Would non-artists normally know what size this was? [/B]

That had been brought to my attention, that's why from now on I'm putting the measurements down on every piece. I'm finding it's about learning about what to include and let the art speak for itself...

LilKitten
01-28-2002, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by tammy

Another tip I've learned is you could put the photo of what you are selling up first and then the description etc under it. People usually would like to see what your selling more than the description of it.
You do have some bids. Congratulations.

I do, and was elated! How do you put the picture above, btw? I didn't see how to do that...

CarlyHardy
01-28-2002, 01:22 PM
If you want the images to show at the top of your description, you will need to link <img src> to an image that is stored somewhere else on the web. This link goes into the html for the description.
All images that you put into the ebay pics will appear at the bottom of the description.

If you have a personal site, you could put your images there and link to them...but you cannot link to a page...only to an image. Ebay doesn't allow linking to websites in the description...unless the page is to show more about the item listed. It cannot have other paintings on the page or information about other sales. Of course the page could have a link to your home site!

There are also other image hosting sites on the internet where you can pay a small fee storing images. Check some of the other auctions and you'll see links on some of them that will take you to their services.

carly

LilKitten
01-28-2002, 01:28 PM
Thank you, I know my home server has space, and I'm in the process of getting a domain/online store going, so I'll have space there, but didn't quite know where to put it :)

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Applause!ks again!

tammy
01-28-2002, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by LilKitten


I do, and was elated! How do you put the picture above, btw? I didn't see how to do that...
I'm sorry, I noticed that you were only using their form and not using html. What I do is write in html (a web page in text form, sort of). It's a form for my auctions which includes a link to my photos (as Carly described above). I save it to my desktop on my hard drive. That way I can put in only the photo and descriptions where I want them and only change the title, description for each new auction. I then copy it and paste it into eBay sell your item form where the description goes.


To see how to do it right click your mouse and click view source on any web page.

Sumafra
01-29-2002, 01:10 AM
Lilkitten, I liked your watercolor florals and sunrises very much. You opening bids are really low. Hope you got more for them than that. They're worth more.

I agree with the others about the red print and about cropping your photos. Otherwise, everything looks good and you already have bids. You're on your way!! :clap:

LilKitten
01-29-2002, 01:12 AM
I thank ya'll for your kind help :) I'm getting there, step javascript:smilie(':cat:')
Smiley Cat!by step...

CarlyHardy
01-29-2002, 11:29 AM
#1 As mentioned before, you should improve your graphic images! I'm sure they don't do justice to the color of your work. Almost all of the images I viewed were really washed out...(don't use a flash when taking your photos)...and crop all the background out of the image.

#2 Simplify your titles for the auction. Use Watercolor in your title and Floral or Still Life or Landscape. Those are key search words that viewers use to find work they are interested in. Also, you should shorten your name in the title to just Tigeress or CTigeress (it would take up less space and still serve as a search term for your clients). You can use the name of a flower (like rose, tulips, etc in the title) but don't use the "name of the painting" in your title. You have the name of the painting in the description and folks don't search by a name of a painting.

#3 The red text has already been mentioned...but if you like colorful text, then think about changing the color when you change subject, or just use red to emphasize certain things you want to 'pop out'.

These are ideas that I've learned from more experienced ebay sellers and they work! My other most important advice is to be professional with your response to the client and your shipping!! When the customer receives that package...it's the first tangible impression of who you are!! Make it a good one.
carly

LilKitten
01-29-2002, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by CHClements
Almost all of the images I viewed were really washed out...(don't use a flash when taking your photos)...and crop all the background out of the image.

shipping!! When the customer receives that package...it's the first tangible impression of who you are!! Make it a good one.
carly

Okay now this is a serious question I had about shipping - how do people ship their paintings?

I talked to my shpping people (a mail boxes etc), and they were kinda clueljavascript:smilie(':)')
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smiley a display folder (one of the big ones kids use for science projects), put the painting in that (it is acid free), bubble wrap the painting, and then paperwrap over that. I wasn't real pleased with that, but they were clueless and so was I.

The smaller ones we'll just put into padded mailers or the acid free photomailers. They are to be marked as fragile, for obvious reasons. Do they need additional backing for stiffness?

The ones with mattes and such are very sturdy (as the mattes have a nice backing to them). For them, I have a nice mylar envelope for - then the bubble wrap - then the outer covering.

Of course a full invoice will be provided, and a thank you letter (probably one of my cards there too - get some additional sales) and maybe a nice sample extra card or something like that - thoughts?

Thanks again for all of your help :)

CathyD
01-29-2002, 08:33 PM
Hi, Lilkitten, boy are you going to be busy when your auctions end!!!! Shipping and contacting everyone is time consuming.

I send my paintings priority mail. USPS provides the boxes, envelopes, tubes for free!!! Of course the bidder pays for the shipping. I shrinkwrap my paintings and make sure I have a pretty sturdy cardboard backing.
Damage can occur if a big box lands on your package or whatever during shipping. So keep in mind that packages get tumbled about despite the fact you that you put fragile on it.
I had one client mention that their box was punctured but because I had put a corrugated wrapping paper around it, the painting wasn't damaged. Another I had sent a print to in an card board envelope and it was bent but not folded but the print was fine. Whew!
I try to make sure things are well packaged before shipping. That's the only problems I have had so far. Everyone else I have sold to have received theirs in perfect condition.
I agree with Carly, be professional and timely in contacting your winning bidders and ship things out when payment is complete. After the Anthrax scare I had one painting delayed because they closed down the Washington DC postoffice. It wasn't very pleasant to get an email from the bidder saying "WHERE'S MY PAINTING!!!" It took 11 days for a Priority sent package to get there. It should have taken 2 - 3 days. After that experience I started adding Delivery Confimation to my shipping for .40. You can track it online and it is very nice to be able to tell your customer that it arrived at the Dallas TX USPS hub on Sat, Nov. 26 at 8:00 am!!! (That was another one going to Texas). It really calms the customer down. They know you at least shipped it!

I love your bright colors! It is great that you have so many auctions going. I hope you get high prices worthy of your work!

Cathy

LilKitten
01-29-2002, 08:51 PM
Wow...I wouldn't have thought to use USPS, will have to get some more information from them. I know to do it all privately is not cheap, and by multiple layering my artwork I hope to keep it dry and clean. I know sources for large mylar bags and I'm hopeing to get more of those so I can really get protection.

Thanks again :)

LK

CarlyHardy
01-29-2002, 10:25 PM
A lot of info that you might want to take a look at is already located in the business forums....do a search for Priority Mail or USPS or SHIPPING PAINTINGS. Any of those should turn up some good info!

Check out the www.usps.com website for free boxes, tape, and labels that you can have shipped to your home free of charge!
carly

Sumafra
01-30-2002, 01:46 AM
Lilkitten, in my opinion, you have 2 things to worry about: moisture and bending. This is what I do: I buy corroplast (a corrugated platic) at the local lumber yard. I cut it to the same size as the painting I'm shipping (I'm talking unframed now). I put the painting on the corroplast and wrap in cellophane. I then put a piece of cardboard on top of the painting, just in case. The cellophane protects against moisture, the corroplast against bending. This stuff is impossible to bend, it's really good protection, and it's very cheap to buy. The other piece of cardboard is just in case of something puncturing the package. Then I wrap the whole lot in brown shipping paper. It's easy and it's cheap, and it works. I even shipped a framed painting by putting coroplast on the top and on the bottom, followed by cardboard all around. It was very safe. My feedback said: incredibly well wrapped. That says it all.

LilKitten
01-30-2002, 02:28 AM
Thank you, very much. I'll go look for corroplast, and give a few phone calls :) Can you use something like saran wrap for the cellophane?

Thanks agian,

LilKitten

arlene
01-30-2002, 09:40 AM
I haven't done ebay yet...but i've shipped close to 300 pieces in the last 4 years...all go priority mail...and it's alot cheaper than Mailboxes, Etc.

I shipped three framed (with glass) pieces out last week, insured it for $2,500 total, had a delivery confirmation, and I think I paid under $35....but I'd have to look to be sure.

I strictly use USPS...and as others said, they have their own boxes, etc.

What I do is if the piece is framed, I'll put a piece of foamcore cut to size on top of the frame, covering the glass, and then use drafting tape to hold it to the sides of the frame. Over this I'll put several layers of bubble wrap (this can be found in Office Depot, Staples, etc.), and use clear packing tape to seal it so, as sumafra said, there's no way moisture can get to the artwork. I'll then tape the invoice (already paid for) to the top.

This then goes into a box (if small enough I use one of the Postal service boxes, otherwise I have some I've bought from Staples) and from there stuff the corners with newsprint.

If it's unmatted, I'll use two two layers on each side of foam core to protect the print. That will go into one of the padded (with bubble stuff) envelopes, that I buy myself. I make sure to buy the tyvek ones, since that is waterproof.

Everything gets shipped with a delivery confirmation, or if it's being sent to a business a return receipt, and everything is insured for the actual amount.

I have never had a problem with anything I've shipped. (course I shouldn't have just said that...LOL)

Sumafra
01-31-2002, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by LilKitten
Can you use something like saran wrap for the cellophane?


I would think that you could use saran wrap, or even a plastic bag for that matter, as long as you protect the work against possible moisture.