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laudesan
11-27-2005, 10:36 PM
The EPSON 2200 or EPSON R2400


I am going to buy one of these, has anyone got any experience with them???

Any and all advice please..:)

leofaerie17
11-27-2005, 10:50 PM
:wave: :wave: :wave:

Hi JJ im looking to do that soon also so will be interested in the answers u get .

Just thought Id say Hello hope u are well :cat:

jhercilia
11-28-2005, 11:23 PM
I have the 2200 and it's great. The R2400 is the upgraded version to the 2200. I love this printer's quality. Go for it!

laudesan
11-28-2005, 11:30 PM
Hi Bev, Yes I am fine. A big Hello to you too. :wave:

Janet, what paper do you use in your printer??

What is the largest size you print?

Have you tried a roll of watercolour paper in it?

Does anyone know how the rolls work, and what weight?

jhercilia
11-28-2005, 11:35 PM
I have used canvas, watercolor, velvet fine arts, etc. (from Epson). There are other papers from other companies too, but make sure they are made for this printer as to preserve its archival qualities.
Here you can fine a list from Epson for this printer:
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/pamPaperFinder.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&printer=53540920

Max print sheet size is 13x19. If using a roll, you are only limited by its width (13"). The printer comes with a rack that you install for the rolls. Its pretty easy to setup. This printer is very economic. Inks last a long time. It also uses two types of black ink (one photo and one matte) that you change depending of the media you will print on.

laudesan
11-28-2005, 11:53 PM
Thanks for the link. I wonder where here in Australia I can buy these papers.

I shall ask my Friend Jason, he is going to get me the printer he can find out..

I read somewhere that the matte in was best???

jhercilia
11-28-2005, 11:56 PM
I wouldn't say that matte is the best. It all depends on what you are printing, the purpose, or the end result you want for a piece. Then you would choose the media.

You will probably find the papers at the same place where he is getting the printer from. If not, check with Epson, I am sure they have stores in that side too. LOL

jhercilia
11-28-2005, 11:57 PM
Got to Epson.com and choose your country.

laudesan
11-28-2005, 11:58 PM
He is getting the printer from a wholesaler, I shall ask him..

I shall be printing prints of my watercolour paintings..

Thanks Janet you have been so helpful.. :)

jhercilia
11-29-2005, 12:01 AM
He is getting the printer from a wholesaler, I shall ask him..

I shall be printing prints of my watercolour paintings..

Thanks Janet you have been so helpful.. :)
Your are welcome.
If you will be printing watercolor paintings, they I would use their watercolor papers.

laudesan
11-29-2005, 12:07 AM
Thanks, I have been told that some of these printers don't like wc paper.. I use Arches 140lb cp.

Do you have any tips, tricks, hints??:)

Elainepsq
11-29-2005, 01:20 AM
I've often use canson mi-tentes paper. It is acid free and has a texture similiar to watercolor paper. I used it with my Epson, I have an HP printer now and it does well printing from scans of my watercolors, colored pencils and digital work. I too can print up to 13 x 19, but I have various paper sizes set, and cut the canson paper as needed.

laudesan
11-29-2005, 02:13 AM
Thank you Elaine. I shall make a list of the papers that are suitable and why you folks like them..:)

barryt
11-29-2005, 06:16 AM
I use an Epson 1290 which prints 13" x 19". I use a matte heavyweight paper, 'Somerset enhanced', which has a nice velvet texture. It is 100% cotton acid free. This printer is superb so I should think the ones you are thinking about will be out of this world.

jhercilia
11-29-2005, 07:55 AM
I've often use canson mi-tentes paper. It is acid free and has a texture similiar to watercolor paper. I used it with my Epson, I have an HP printer now and it does well printing from scans of my watercolors, colored pencils and digital work. I too can print up to 13 x 19, but I have various paper sizes set, and cut the canson paper as needed.
Technically, you can use any paper your printer will accept through its path as long as you precoat it with InkAid precoat. This will help preserving archival quality (waterproof print and lightfast) that it's granted when using papers specifically made for this printer.

laudesan
11-29-2005, 08:14 AM
Technically, you can use any paper your printer will accept through its path as long as you precoat it with InkAid precoat. This will help preserving archival quality (waterproof print and lightfast) that it's granted when using papers specifically made for this printer.

How do you precoat the paper?????

jhercilia
11-29-2005, 05:10 PM
How do you precoat the paper?????
Well, it is like sizing the paper. There are two clear inkAIDs: semigloss and gloss. Both can be applied to absorbent and nonporous papers/surfaces but to apply gloss to an nonporous surface, you must also apply a coat of inkAID adhesive. A good paper to use is Strathmore Aquarius II synthetic watercolor paper since it doesn't stretch or shrink when moisted. You just apply the coat with any soft sponge.

This is what companies do with their papers, they apply sizing to their papers to prepare them for their printers.

You can find this inkAids through danielsmith.com

there is a bunch of information about this in the book: Digital Art Studio by Karin Schminke, Dorothy Simpson Krause, and Bonny Pierce Lhotka.
ISBN# 0-8230-1342-1 Hope this informations helps.

laudesan
11-29-2005, 08:54 PM
Thanks Janet so much for that info!!

Wow I just recieved a price from my friend $AUD1530.00 hmmmmmmmmmmm

justjean
11-29-2005, 11:29 PM
LOL, I know I was following this thread and thinking I needed a new printer so went looking ... saw the price and I think I will be thinking about thinking it over for awhile :eek:

Wow I just recieved a price from my friend $AUD1530.00 hmmmmmmmmmmm

laudesan
11-29-2005, 11:43 PM
LOL, I know I was following this thread and thinking I needed a new printer so went looking ... saw the price and I think I will be thinking about thinking it over for awhile :eek:

It is not that expensive in the States, only around $800.00 I think.

Someone will tell us..:)

justjean
11-29-2005, 11:59 PM
But I don't live there, here it is about 1250.00 :)

laudesan
11-30-2005, 12:18 AM
Oh Jean Ouch..

Yes Canada is not much different from us..

jhercilia
11-30-2005, 12:51 AM
Yeah, in US it costs $849.99.
Can you have someone buy it and ship it to you?
I think that even with the shipping the price will be cheaper than buying it outside US.

leofaerie17
11-30-2005, 12:56 AM
:wave: :wave: :wave:

Wow my Printer dreams are on hold for a while LOL

JJ i knew Janet:angel: would come to your rescue she's really up on all this,info stored for future reference,thanks guys:wink2:

laudesan
11-30-2005, 01:00 AM
Janet that is a good idea.

I wonder if I should buy it online??

jhercilia
11-30-2005, 07:09 AM
Janet that is a good idea.

I wonder if I should buy it online??
Let me tell you that I buy everything online and had no problems at all.
Maybe you should contact Epson and ask them about the shipping. I don't see why there would be a problem.

This is Epson Australia, maybe you should contact them through email.
http://www.epson.com.au/

laudesan
11-30-2005, 07:14 AM
Thanks again Janet, you are verrrrry smart!!! :)

barryt
11-30-2005, 07:41 AM
Here's a link to a review

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/printers/Epson2200.shtml

justjean
11-30-2005, 11:09 AM
Janet it just ain't so :( I bought some cp stuff and the US price was 120.42 by the time I paid the exchange and delivery stuff it was
Cnd 204.00 :crying:

Yeah, in US it costs $849.99.
Can you have someone buy it and ship it to you?
I think that even with the shipping the price will be cheaper than buying it outside US.

jhercilia
11-30-2005, 06:51 PM
Janet it just ain't so :( I bought some cp stuff and the US price was 120.42 by the time I paid the exchange and delivery stuff it was
Cnd 204.00 :crying:
That's really sad!!!! :crying:
Maybe the $AUD1530.00 ain't that bad after all.

leofaerie17
11-30-2005, 08:46 PM
:wave: :wave: :wave:

Independant review may be of interest

http://www.renderosity.com/index.ez?viewStory=12427&Form.sess_id=1971036&Form.sess_key=1133397683

laudesan
11-30-2005, 10:01 PM
Thanks for the review Bev!!

Yeh that is what is worrying me, the exchange rate..:(

justjean
11-30-2005, 10:32 PM
I could at least buy it here so no boder costs so it would be about 1250.00 total but as my stuff isn't good enough to archive I think I'll go for a cheaper one that does a half decent job :D

jhercilia
11-30-2005, 10:43 PM
I could at least buy it here so no boder costs so it would be about 1250.00 total but as my stuff isn't good enough to archive I think I'll go for a cheaper one that does a half decent job :D
Well, if anyone plans to sell their artwork (good or bad), having an archival printer is a must.

laudesan
11-30-2005, 10:47 PM
Well, if anyone plans to sell their artwork (good or bad), having an archival printer is a must.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After all practice makes perfect. Your artwork will be great in no time.

barryt
12-01-2005, 09:42 AM
Well, if anyone plans to sell their artwork (good or bad), having an archival printer is a must.

Janet you don't really need an archival printer. You need archival inks and archival paper. I have an A3 Epson photo 1290. I do not use the Epson dye based inks I use Lysonic pigment inks and 100% cotton acid free paper heavyweight. You have to adjust the color profile (the ink comes with one). You can then probably use a slightly cheaper printer.

jhercilia
12-01-2005, 01:54 PM
Janet you don't really need an archival printer. You need archival inks and archival paper...
Yeah, I know. Maybe I didn't express it right. It is the inks and paper what makes archival possible, but the printer needs to be prepared to accept this type of ink. That's why I said "archival printer". Sorry if it created some confusion.

nancy_ellen56
12-01-2005, 02:22 PM
I have an HP1220c deskjet printer and can print multiple sizes and thicknesses...It has been working great for me...matter of fact have used canson water color paper to print on with it, also canvas, and thicker card stock that doesn't like to bend as much...it has multiple directional feed for the paper...It was well worth the money I spent on it...