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11-12-2005, 04:20 PM
This is a commission. I'm doing a blue underpainting for a certain look & depth. 8X101/2 on Art Spectrum paper. I've tweaked her alot more....getting close to being done. what do you think of the eyes & nose? The photo ref. was really bad for the eyeballs.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Nov-2005/3341-Ashtoncrop22WC.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Nov-2005/3341-Ashtonlab7.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Nov-2005/3341-Ashtonlab7eyes.jpg
11-12-2005, 04:51 PM
I've looked at my reference & some others more & tweaked the eyes. Does it look like eyelids now?
11-12-2005, 06:33 PM
Its certailnly a huge improvement over the ref pic, you've picked a real difficult one, black and white are both very hard - I've come to the conclusion that hte secret is finding (or inventing) colours that are within the black - blue is a good choice - my feeling here is that the highlights look to be created with a flash, these can tend to look a little odd if copied too slavishly so I think you are on to a winner by using other refs alongside this one - coming along well
11-12-2005, 07:06 PM
I tried to take an outdoor photo but the dog wouldn't co-operate outside & had to resort to inside with flash. I made the eyes more round & tried to keep the outline. Anything you see that needs adjusting any where in the painting?
11-12-2005, 07:18 PM
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I think you are doing a wonderful job! I really love the bg, but take a look at the tongue it looks peach next too his teeth. It also could be my monitor. I really like the blue highlights in his fur.
11-12-2005, 08:11 PM
Maybe these can help you with the eyes... shot in natural lighting of my parent's black Lab. The eyes tend to be lighter next to the pupil and darker near the edges.
11-13-2005, 03:51 PM
Its looking good to me! :clap :
11-13-2005, 07:45 PM
Thanks so much Cathy for the extra pics. They're really going to help with the eyes. Here's an update of this dog. I haven't worked on the eyes today or much on the tongue. I've darkened the whole thing & tried to have less contrast with the highlights. I know I need to adjust where some of the darks are but I've been painting 3 hrs. Going to let it rest til tomorrow.
This is beautiful and you've really made some improvements. Cathy those photos are incredible, the perfect thing to help with this. Your photography is as awesome as your art!!!
Tammy for my own paintings I like to put brownish highlights in a black animal rather than all blue, I think it looks a bit more realisitic. Black coats often get a bit sunburnt leaving them with a warmer, reddish tinge and they get dirty, etc. Blue highlights are good for places where the body curves up and away from us such as the top of the head or back, where it reflects the blue of the sky. In Cathy's photos, you can see how the planes of the dog that are more facing us, have warmer highlights than the top of the dogs head, etc.
Keep up the good work on this one though it's really turning out great!!
11-13-2005, 08:23 PM
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tammy this is looking really beautiful! Can't wait too see more!
11-14-2005, 10:58 AM
You are doing a nice job Tammy! I will check back!
11-18-2005, 01:03 PM
I just keep reworking her black. Tried adding some brown & burgundy. I worked on her tongue but need to shade the back more. I've been waiting on doing the eyes more until later. The camera added the pink on the top. :rolleyes: What do you think of this version?
11-18-2005, 04:45 PM
I've worked on her eyes. I tried to make them look like some of the photos in the thread but they almost look bugged-out & I'm not sure why. are the highlights in the pupil too white?
I think I've got the right contrast between the highlights & the rest of the black fur now.
What do you think?
11-19-2005, 02:50 PM
Hi, Tammy! If it were me, I'd darken the highlights a little and also make them a little smaller, also would darken the back of the tongue. Good job!!!! He's beautiful!
11-20-2005, 05:23 PM
I just can't seem to do the eyes to please me. I've tried to unround the eyes, make the pupils bigger, highlights smaller to get rid of the bug-eyed look. It's hard because they're small - the whole painting is just 8x10. Hard to get two colors in the iris, the pupil & the iris...I do one & mess up another. :( Have I succeeded yet? I think they're getting better.
11-23-2005, 11:08 AM
Well done you've improved this well! :clap:
11-23-2005, 05:51 PM
I followed some advice in the pastel forum & made the highlight a little smaller.I'm finally pleased enough with it. I'm hoping to show it to the client tomorrow after Thanksgiving dinner. This is it matted. I'll try to gaze at it & think about it at least today.
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