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Roan
03-19-2001, 09:58 AM
Although I've been busy with cleaning et al, and have been neglecting my mail and WC!, I HAVE been making sure I paint for at least 45 mins every day!
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This was originally intended to be a Fresian, but I personally don't care much for painting black horses -- I find them rather boring. That's just me :P

Anyhow, think of it as a "fresian-type" horse (as an aside, Fresians CAN be non-black, but you can't register them. Only black is accepted in the modern Fresian). I've been mucking about, changing this and that and not sure where I want to take this fella. Most of this is a tonal Nupastel underpainting, the brown I just recently added and I sorta like the effect of the brown with some grey showing through. I had intended to add a lot of hair definition, fixing the layers as I go along (as Diane mentioned she did for her dog portraits in the "Dog Day Afternoon" project), but I really wonder if I want to go that route at all.

What do you guys think? Keep with the brown? Leave some grey showing? Go palomino? Dun? Add hair texture and definition? Dunno!

Oh, please ignore the hooves. When I do horses I constantly redraw as I go along and I haven't been concentrating on them at all.

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<FONT face="Script MT Bold"><FONT COLOR="#AB4835"><FONT size="5">Roan</FONT s></FONT c></FONT f>
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animal
03-19-2001, 04:47 PM
Roan, I like the way you do horses. I especially like the colours you have used in this one. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

LDianeJohnson
03-19-2001, 08:01 PM
Hi Roan,

The first question is, is this painting for yourself or for a client? If for yourself, then you know horses best. Paint the surface with the combination that you prefer.

But you have a great start. The left hoof in particular, in the shadows is wonderful to keep the attention at the head. I would also recommend the background (I realize you've just laid in your base layer) could bring more depth to the drama of the horse if it is treated with layers of values.

Whatever route you decide on, black or brown horse, just keep it all consistent throughout.

This is a powerful pose.

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Roan
03-19-2001, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by Artistry:
The first question is, is this painting for yourself or for a client? If for yourself, then you know horses best. Paint the surface with the combination that you prefer.

Hi, Diane!
It's just an experimental fun piece and I'll probably put it up for sale if it comes out okay.

I honestly dunno what I prefer :P I'm trying to expand my techniques and learn something else other than that thick "painterly" style I seem to have adopted. I'm starting to think that, for this painting anyway, simpler is better. I don't want to get bogged down into too much detail for once.

But you have a great start. The left hoof in particular, in the shadows is wonderful to keep the attention at the head. I would also recommend the background (I realize you've just laid in your base layer) could bring more depth to the drama of the horse if it is treated with layers of values.

It's amazing and wonderful how you can get different ideas, opinions and help if you post in multiple forums!

Okay, so keep the left hoof and leg toned down to give it distance and shadow, layer the background to give it more volume and depth. Pick up the head and make it prominent. Gotcha!

Whatever route you decide on, black or brown horse, just keep it all consistent throughout.

This is a powerful pose.



I will and thank you! You don't think it leans too far to the left? Someone in Critiques suggested I change the light source to the right side rather than the top right, but doing that invalidates my lost edges. I dont want to lose the drama of this piece. People like horses and drama.


Thanks Diane!




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<FONT face="Script MT Bold"><FONT COLOR="#AB4835"><FONT size="5">Roan</FONT s></FONT c></FONT f>
<FONT COLOR="#8A1010">Cuir a-mach an Sasannach, thoir a-staigh an c, 's tog an teine gu math . .. bidh oidhche fhuar ann a-nochd.</FONT c>
-- <FONT size="1">Put out the Englisman, bring in the dog, and stoke the fire well . . . it will be a cold night tonight.</FONT s>
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Ohju
03-22-2001, 06:16 PM
I like this Roan, like Diane said " very powerful". I agree.
I wouldn't change a thing. Also the hoofs are just perfect, in my opinion. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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The best way to predict the future is to create it. Peter F. Drucker

Roan
03-22-2001, 09:28 PM
Thanks, Ohju :P

I haven't touched it much of late -- too busy -- so I've just been fiddling here and there. I think by the time I'm ready to finish it I'll have to scrap layers of pastel off :P

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<FONT face="Script MT Bold"><FONT COLOR="#AB4835"><FONT size="5">Roan</FONT s></FONT c></FONT f>
<FONT COLOR="#8A1010">"Bu shoilleir a dhreach, 's bu luath
Shiubhal: Sith-fada b'e ainm." --</FONT c>
<FONT size="1">"Shining his coat, and speedy
His pace -- Si-Fada his name."
Si-Fada = "long pace"</FONT s>
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