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K Taylor-Green
09-26-2005, 11:44 AM
Good morning everyone!! Welcome to the Scumble, our weekly chat thread, where we can talk about ourselves. Here we discuss our families, kids, jobs, and pets. Come on in and visit with us!

Today I feel light hearted, not only because all the work and worry of putting this past weekend's reunion is over, but because of what transpired there.
I'm not usually too long winded in here, but I hope you all have a drink, cause this one could get a bit long!

A lot of the group, including us, arrive on Thursday. It makes it easier to get settled in and for older people to rest before the festivities begin on Friday.
So, while Jess and I tallied the final numbers for the caterer's office, people started arriving, checking in, and getting settled. I think the farthest away attendees were from Texas. Most were from Kansas, Wisconsin, the Eastern seaboard, and down South. The Western side didn't make it this year, though we have several members from there.

Friday, more people arrive and register, receive their name tags, and settle into the Hospitality room to talk and generally get caught up on their lives.
It is amazing how much alcohol these old guys can go through! While their wives explore a bit and go shopping, most of the men stay in the hotel and just talk and drink! I had to go in and clear the room out Friday evening, 20 minutes befor dinner! :eek:
Usually, our secretary/treasurer, J J Witmeyer, says a few words, introduces people, and is our all round MC. This year that job fell to yours truely, as J J is still at the mercy of Katrina's aftermath. He couldn't be here this year. So I made my welcomeing speech, we had a great buffet dinner, the DJ played great music from the 40's, 50's, and a few modern songs sprinkled in.
These people, what is left of them, used to really heat up the dance floor. Now, very few get up to dance, but they really enjoyed the music.
Saturday is pretty much a repeat of Friday, but the dinner is a formal banquet, every one gets all dolled up, and we have a couple of speakers and a raffle. I raffled off a painting of mine, and a portrait commission of the winner's choice of subject.
More music and dancing, pictures taken, and a sense of relief that it all came together. I helped make a lot of people happy.
Sunday morning we hold a Memorial Service, and read off the list of this past year's fallen comrades. This is a very emotional event, made more so for my husband's family by the loss of my father-in-law last month.
So many fallen heros. I read that we lose WW ll Vets at the rate of 1000 per day. How sad for our country, to lose it's heros.
But what made this year's event really special, was the arrival of a man and his wife, Steve and Kathy Kjer. This was his first reunion, having only just learned about them. He is about mine and Jess's age, early 50's. He came searching for info about his father, who had died when Steve was nine years old. All he knew was that he had been in the war and had been in the 79th
Infantry Division. That covers thousands of men, and I didn't hold out too much hope after the deaths of so many of our members.
But he found what he was looking for. Thanks to the detailed records of one of our members who has kept them as a history of her father, Steve found out that his dad had been a prisoner of war along with Carin's dad. He found places to go for more info. It was really something, and I held this man while he cried.
He found a connection to his past, and we made new friends. It made the whole year of work and worry worth it.
Next year, Charleston, South Carolina. :clap:

09-26-2005, 12:03 PM
Wow, Kate. This sounds like such a powerfully emotional weekend for you. I can only imagine how that man felt on hearing about his dad. My own father got out of the military about a month before I was born, so I never really had much of a connection with the military, other than knowing that everyone in my dad's side of the family had served. When I was 23, I had the opportunity to attend a medal ceremony where all of the UN peacekeepers from the previous 30 years were honoured and my dad was among them. It is a really emotional experience to watch your father receive an award of that calibre.

This weekend, I had the chance to attend 2 VPON paintouts and to head out to Confederation Park to do some plein air.

If you guys want to see the painting I did at the park, it is in the plein air forum. Just follow this link: http://wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=297131

The VPON paintouts were so fun this weekend. We had peoplef rom all around the world - literally. On Friday Alex (stonewhiteclown) joined us at 4am (his time in Ukraine) so he could paint too. And Sunday afternoon, we had members from Brazil, Ukraine, Norway, the US and Canada. Later on Sunday we even had 2 new members join that are from Pakistan and New Zealand! If you haven't had a chacne to yet, please check out the thread on the Sunday paintout. We had about 14 people and 8 cameras going! So much fun!

Piper Ballou
09-26-2005, 12:10 PM
Dear Kate,
Thank you so much for sharing. You did a wonderful thing this past weekend, I am so grateful you shared it with all of us. How wonderful that a son could make the connection with his father, this story has really touched my heart. I cannot help but sit here and cry too, for the joy that Steve must have received. My father was a WWII vet also, he is passed on now, but I am grateful today for the service to our country and the sacrifices so many have made. Today is my sister's birthday, I decided to ditch school today (I am sounding like one of my students) and take her to lunch and spend the afternoon with her, now, after reading your story, today will have extra meaning and thankfulness for me. Thank you so much.

09-26-2005, 01:05 PM
Kate, what a moving weekend for you, though it certainly sounds busy! Mine was busy too, though *nothing* like yours. It is sad to be losing all those vets every day like that. My dad was only 17 when WWII ended so he missed that, but did join the US Army at age 18, in 1946 - to earn GI Bill money, and served in Japan for a year. Later he joined the ROTC when he was in college for extra money, and ended up being called up for active duty as an officer when he graduated from school in 1951. Every now and then he tells me stories of his Army years, and lately I've taken to trying to write them down as a family history, and just wish I had started years sooner! So many stories I've forgotten.

Saturday was a a glorious day weatherwise, and I went into NYC to have lunch with my son and daughter-in-law, as well as a lovely stroll along the Upper East Side. I participated in VPON paint-outs on both Friday night and Sunday afternoon. Wow that Sunday afternoon session was busy, with about 7-8 webcams active at once. I see I need a much bigger monitor.

My biggest news is that I agreed to be in an art show for a fundraiser held at the local Women's Club in October. The theme is "Red" - the interpretation of which is left up to the artist. :)

When I agreed to do it I thought it was a show for local amateur artists, but now I find it is a bigger event than that with professional artists from all over the area participating, so of course I'm now getting terrible Cold Feet and wondering what on earth I've gotten myself into! Suddenly all my stuff looks so primitive to me.

Oh well, it's all a learning experience I tell myself. If I don't push myself I'll never get anywhere. Nothing else too exciting in the future that I know of, at least not yet.

Deborah Secor
09-26-2005, 01:17 PM
Totally cool, Kate! Loved the details--thanks! My dad was a vet too, having served as a mature man of almost 30 in WWII, doing cleanup patrol in France and other parts of Europe towards the end of the war. Brutal business, that, trust me. He rarely spoke of it, except when he was in his cups and morose. He was a melancholy Dane!

Debbie, go for it! Red--you can do red! Have fun, stretch out. Here's a nice heating pad for your feet... :D

VPON is really taking off for you. Have a blast, Cori and all!

Piper, say Happy Birthday to your sis from us too! :)

I'm off to plan this week's drawing class. What am I doing teaching drawing? eeek! It's fun, though. I have a nice group of enthusiastic people.


09-26-2005, 01:42 PM
Kate thankyou for sharing such a stirring happening in the midst of an already special event. What an emotional weekend for you, but such positive feelings too. How wonderful for Steve to have connected with someone who knew of his Dad. My Dad contributed to the war effort not in the military but in civil engineering working in and with war plants. I recall when he got terrible phosphorous (can't spell it) burns on his leg. My step Dad was in the Burma China theater where he was awarded the medal of honor which he refused. He was Japanese and his family was interned. In his last hours he was talking in his delirium about General Stillwell and Merril's Flying Tigers. It is sad to be losing these fine soldiers, yet they have lived out long years, and there are new heros--sadly, for we seem to not yet have learned how not to need them for war.
Debbie, do keep writing down the stories so they are kept to remember. I wish I had written the stories of these two men, both of their lives and their war experiences before they and I had forgotten the details. Don't worry about all those other artists, Just paint red and enjoy yourself. It's great fun to see your work hanging on exhibit. And you get your feet wet without risk.
Boy, Cori, VPON has really taken off. It's so great for those without a local art network. Great job getting it going and now it's an international event!
What do you "eek" Deborah? Drawing is the fundamental skill and I know you have it down pat. Lead these students well.
After pushing since last October totally compelled by art, like the sorcer's apprentice, I have reached a place of needing an art break of sorts. I'm still compelled, but need to do something else as well. That tells me I'm feeling confident in my art and can risk setting it aside for a small spell without fear of it dying on me again. We have our annual Art in The Park this weekend. I'll be sitting in the Member's Booth to hand out info and tell people where what is. I'm going to be looking hard at how folk exhibit so I can know what I'm doing next year with my own booth hopefully. It's getting hard to get in now as we have over 300 vendors now.
I'm off to the big city to pick up my first set of Giclee Prints. It's a big outlay of money but I think will garner a return, besides making me feel professional.
Great week to all

09-26-2005, 02:14 PM
It's been a fun journey to get off the ground. Everyone has been wonderful about helping out, scheduling paintouts, agreeing to be moderators, participating in paintouts. Now that we are getting more and more members, we might end up with more varied start times for paintouts and that will make it easier for more people to participate. I've got my fingers crossed, but this is turning into Wet Canvas Live!!!

Kathryn Day
09-26-2005, 08:57 PM
Kate: Your reunion sounds like quite a success. And a lucky person got one of your paintings too.

Cori : I have yet to check in to your VPON, but will in the future. Your plein aire painting is lovely.

Debbie: Paint something striking in red!!

Deborah: I think I may concentrate on doing some drawing while I have down time. I am sure your class will learn lots.

Tj: good luck with your show.

I haven't been around as much as I would like and now it will be even less. My mother is at the point that she needs fulltime care. My sisters and I are going to care for her at her home, since she wants to stay there. I will get my work done here, mon-wed, then go to Mom's on thur,fri and sat, leave sun am to come back home. I am going to take a sketch book and pencils and draw, when Mom is resting or asleep. Free time will be scarce, so will not be online much. Hope to catch up with everyone later. Don't forget me!!! I have my other heart tests on Wednesday before I go. I am feeling better now that I am sleeping with oxygen. Everyone take care and I will try to check in on occassion. :wave:

K Taylor-Green
09-26-2005, 09:07 PM
Debbie, I wished that someone had written down some of Dad's storys. He only told the humerous ones, or the ones about comradship. He never talked about the things he was compelled to do. He could never watch explicit war movies.
He was good natured and loving, more of a dad to me than a dad-in-law. He always said that I was the best thing to ever happen to "that boy".

Deborah, I don't think any of them really liked talking about it, well, maybe a wierd few. You know the type. Dad was young when he was in the war, part of the 314th Infantry Division.
BTW, I love teaching drawing! Wish I had more adults, though. I love the kids, but the adults really make you think.

TJ, Yes, it was very moving, and Steve and his wife are really fun people. She used to be in radio broadcasting, but now works for her hubby in his accounting firm. We intend to keep in touch.

Cori, Sounds like this V-Pon thing is getting bigger and bigger. You must really love it, as we don't see as much of you in here as we used to. (Cori? Who's Cori?) LOL!

Been a quiet day, just what I needed. I plan on not thinking for a week! So, don't ask me anything hard. :p

K Taylor-Green
09-26-2005, 09:12 PM
Kathy, hi! We cross-posted! Too bad about your mom. You are good daughters, to care for her so. I know how hard that is. We won't forget you.

09-26-2005, 10:30 PM
Cori, Sounds like this V-Pon thing is getting bigger and bigger. You must really love it, as we don't see as much of you in here as we used to. (Cori? Who's Cori?) LOL!

lol - nah - that is just my office location at work...right next to the bosses office and a boss who likes to pop his head quickly around the corner and say "Hey what do you think of THIS idea!" lol. VPON is gret, but the paintouts are just once or twice a week at this point!

We took the dog to Nose Hill park tonight and I wish I'd brought my pochade along. We were just going for a quick run with the dog, but we went to this different area of the park (this park is MASSIVE - a natural preserve). The area we were in had sand cliffs and beautiful rich colours. It was really too windy to paint, but I will be going back on the weekend...

Piper Ballou
09-27-2005, 01:25 AM
I had such a nice time with my sister today, we did not leave until early afternoon and went to Laughlin, Nevada about 35 miles from here, we ate at a buffet at one of the casinos and then gambled, I did gamble a little - 5 cent machines and my sister gambled a lot, after all it was her birthday, anyway, I came home with $100 more then I went with because my sister won big (add a zero to my 100) and gave me the 100..I was only down $10 so I came home ahead... :p (whinning still works with her) Overall we had a fun day.
Back to school tomorrow, my students are going to ask where I was...I am going to tell them I had decided to ditch...little will they know.. :evil:

K Taylor-Green
09-27-2005, 02:40 PM
That sounds like a lot of fun, Piper.
I got lucky at the horse races once. Won enough for dinner out!

09-28-2005, 09:20 PM
That does sound like a very fun day, Piper. It's always fun to win big (even if it is inadvertently).

The scumble is quiet this week..where is everyone??? I went back to that spot at nose hill park last night. I had to paint it and i couldn't risk the leaves having fallen by the weekend :D The painting is posted in the studio, if anyone wants to see.

Piper Ballou
09-29-2005, 01:56 AM
Went to the art show at the college, our local art guild is having an art show there right now. I have four paintings hanging and was quite pleased to see them with other paintings. Kinda funny, I can handle a classroom with rough and toughers all day, but, put me in a room with people looking at my artwork and I sure did not know what to say. It is a good thing my husband has the gift of gab...over all it is a nice show, we donated some mats so that one of the schools here could mat some their artwork and the kids were really having fun.

09-29-2005, 09:06 AM
Whew! I'm late here.

Kate, what a moving story! You write so well it makes it all seem like I was there.

Good luck with your show, TJ. I understand about sometimes needing a break too....but don't stay away too long!

Piper, sounds like you had a good time...you work hard enough with those kids you surely deserve a break now and then!

Hey Debbie...red is fun! Have a ball with it!

Kathy, I surely do understand how hard it is and what you are going through. Good for you that you are able to help and let her stay at home.

I am still in Maine. It's been a weird week but hubby will be up later today so I am lookng forward to that. I have done a little painting but not nearly what I had hoped. I've just been busy or frankly not in the mood. I know I will look back later and wish I had done more but so it goes.

My mother is also not doing so well. She is at home but my dad is having a tough time.
I had this in an email from my sister in law yesterday:

Ralph saw your parents today and he said they are
like a couple of dead people. Your father is exhausted
and your mother is very weak. He said at one point
she almost fell b/c her legs buckled while holding onto
the walker. They caught her. I think your father had a
doctor appointment this afternoon for himself. Your
mother was sitting there saying "don't bring me
back to that place" ("that place" is the nursing home")
It is all pretty depressing and there is just no good answer. SHe really should be in the nursing home but obviously she would rather be in their apartment. They could have help in but they don't really like someone hanging around them. Even when I am back hoome in Mass. I am not so close that I can run out all the time and even if I could, there isn't much to be done anyhow. The nursing h ome is in the building right next to their apartment. It is really a nice place...as long as you don't have to be there I suppose. It's very sad to watch. All I can tell myself is that they have both had very excellent, long lives. It is only recently that things have deteriorated to this point. They were healthy, they lead rich, fulfilling lives. They travelled. Their kdis and grandkids all live nearby and they have gotten to enjoy them. Even now, in the scheme of things, they are uncomfortable, but not really in terrible pain. They can afford to live in a wonderful senior complex. Their kids are still basically around. But if my father had his druthers, he would love me to move in with them. WEll, it isn't going to happen. I'm sorry. I know there are people who would do that. ANd the truth is, he wouldn't really be happy then either. All their friends are dead or dying. All their relatives are mostly dead. It is awful. What a strange and scary time of life. I know some people seem to "handle" it better but I doubt I will. We sometimes joke that if there is no answer there must be no problem...so maybe there is no problem here. Hmmm.....bad joke. Sorry for the rant...I know there are a lot of us here dealing with this on some level.

Otherwise, I am still in my own limbo. I go on Monday back to the doctor and get my report. I had the CAT scan earlier this week. I am feeling much better and pretty hopeful.....but afraid to be too hopeful! At least I should have some answers on Monday.

Enjoy the weekend!


09-29-2005, 10:37 AM
Sandy, don't feel guilty about not moving in. My mother & grandmother were best friends....visits went great. But when they moved in together it didn't go nearly so well as they thought. I know now that some of it was just Nanny's dementia starting. But she would accuse my parents of not loving her, of making her stay in the bedroom all the time....none of it true. It wasn't all bad but it was not nearly as nice as they thought it would be. This is a difficult time of life. Sometimes I just wish that family & me would go suddenly & avoid the long downhill slide with the sad mental & physical disabilities. My heart is with you & the others who are dealing with aging parents.

09-29-2005, 10:48 AM
Sometimes I just wish that family & me would go suddenly & avoid the long downhill slide with the sad mental & physical disabilities.

Yeah....I know it would bring it's own problems, but it sometimes seems like the best thing would be that at a certain point you would just not wake up. But, then that is what everyone wants for themselves and their loved ones....no suffering.
I do believe that in some way the suffering in life is what makes up appreciate the good parts, but when you are in pain or watching your friends and loved ones going through it, it is hard. You want it all to be wonderful, but of course life doesn't work that way. It sounds trite to say life would be boring if it were like that, but I suspect it would be. No suffering, no disagreements, no anything but sunshine and roses. Well, it would be nice for a while anyhow!
Honestly, I can't say I feel "guilty" so much as I feel badly. I know it would make no sense for me to move in. It is a small place and I do have a spouse who would not appreciate it. ANd frankly, my father and I would probably end up killing each other! :D Well, not that bad, but talk about nerve wracking. And I don't have the right set up in my house for them. Besides, I know they wouldn't want to live with us either.
Waht he really wants is for me to be available for him at all hours of the day to run over whenever he needs or wants it. I think that is what he really wants. Hubby and I should drive out and have supper with them every night. It just isn't feasible. So we go when we can. WE try to make a judgement call when he does call and determine if it is necessary for me or us to go. It's just tough to see because they were so independent and active. But this is what happens. And everyone handles is differently.


09-29-2005, 04:12 PM

A little medical update. I had my 2nd C.T. scan on Monday and they finally called to say the radiologist says the issue is "partially" resolved. It should still be monitored but it is definitely smaller.
I am going back to the pulmonary specialist at Mass. General on Monday where he will hopefully concur after looking at the films.
So for now, that is pretty good news. I am hardly coughing and feel much better than I did a few weeks ago. Hopefuly this was some foolish infection and is going away!



09-29-2005, 06:42 PM
Sandy, I'm so glad you got some good news...I hope it keeps getting better & better.

K Taylor-Green
09-29-2005, 09:54 PM
Sandy, That's great news!! Too bad about your folks, though. Really puts you between a rock and a hard place. My thoughts are with you.

09-30-2005, 11:44 AM
Lordy knows I can chime in on the conversation about dealing with aging parents. .Couple that with one's own attempts at retaining a life and identity can lead to some pretty heavy mental fatique. I now have sitters in the house min of 4 hours a day to help with my dad. I literally went through a period of mental and physical shut down for about a week,,,,,stress made me sick, and being sick stressed my system.

Two paintings of mine were juried into a regional art show that opens next week...the same time my solo exhibition here in town opens.....Iwill have works hanging in 2 seperate shows at the same time.

My portfolio was submitted to the Okeefenokee Regional Heriatage Center's Art Show Committee for consideration of one of their show slots in the upcoming year. This would be a feather in my cap 'cause if selected, they take care of the press releases in all the area papers, invitations, and reception.....and encourage sales. As I was leaving the director stated. "A couple of other committee members have already seen some of your work and were very impressed" Not sure if I should try to read anything into that ,,,,but I am keeping my fingers crossed.

I have addressed so many invitations that my fingers were sore last night (not used to writing, since going computer) but with luck, they will get in the mail today only 1 day late....lol

09-30-2005, 12:39 PM
Congratulations, Preston. SOunds like you are sure busy with the exhibits. Good for you!

Yes, I know you have had your share of elderly issues. And yes, you have to some how strike a balance. It is hard, no matter what you do.
I did talk to my father again last night and he was more upbeat. But who knows what the next conversation will be. And frankly, I can't say that I blame him. He is old and tired himself, he doesn't want to put my mother in a nursing home, she doesn't want to go, but at this rate they will end up there together! Or, they'll manage. WHo knows!

Enjoy the weekend everyone!


09-30-2005, 01:20 PM
Preston, wonderful about the show! And Sandy, I'm glad about your medical update. A shame these things take so *long* and keep us waiting and fretting.

I sure hear everyone with the elderly parent issue. My folks moved to North Carolina near my sister when my dad had to take early retirement at 59 to spend 24x7 watching my mom who had Alzheimer's disease (her symptoms first started when she was a year older than I am. Scary thought!) and they could no longer afford to remain in NJ. I was sorry to see them go, and even though my sister urged them to come down there she now claims it has made her life Hell the last 15 years. She said she spent 15 years watching our mom die. My dad refused to put her in a nursing home, but kept her at home and tended her himself, eventually with the help of several women who came in daily to assist him, but she finally passed away last year the week before Christmas. It was getting harder and harder for my dad, and my sister would get made and bitter at *me* claiming she had all the burden and the work of keeping an eye on them and I didn't, and that she had to help get them to medical appointments and I didn't. But it's hard to provide much "hands on" help when you are 550 miles away and working full-time, though I tried to help as much as I could remotely, but that's not enough unfortunately.

Now my dad is having some health problems as well and since there is limited decent medical support in his small community my sister has been taking him to appointments in Raleigh which is three hours away. They think he may have something called "nph" which is water on the brain, and the only treatment that can work, and it's quite high risk, is installing a permanent shunt in the brain to drain the fluid. Even this is causing an issue. My sister is adamant that he needs to think about the shunt, and says that if it were her she would far rather die on the operating table than slowly get worse and worse as the pressure increases, and has no patience with my dad who is terrified at the thought of having a hole drilled in his head, and is insisting that I need to come down for some of these medical visits too. She gets mad at me when I say that I can perfectly understand his fear of the surgery, and has no patience for anyone who might hint that perhaps they would rather *not* die on the opertaing table. So hard to deal with when you are 550 miles away, and a trip to the doctor with him essentially means taking a week off from work for me!

Next week he is going to see a neurosurgeon at Duke, one of the country's top specialists in this shunt procedure whose name I found on the internet, and who the neurologist agrees is the best man to see. Again my sister will be taking him. She thinks I should be there too, but I have few days left at work and she also feels I need to be there if he has the surgery, and I would like to be there too if that is necessary, so I'm trying to save what days I have in case I need them for that!

Phew, sorry for the rant. Anyway, I'm trying to stay calm here, and paint as much as I can. Painting always helps me emotionally. It's a very calming thing to do. I'm still agonizing a bit over what to put in the "Red" art show I've committed to entering, but that's a fun sort of thing to do, and it will be good to get my feet wet in letting other people see my stuff. So far only the WC community and my sisters and a few close friends have seen any of my stuff.

09-30-2005, 03:09 PM
Rant on Debbie,,,,,,the great folks here have listened to me for the last 3 years,,,,,It is amazing how similar so many of our personal lives are. It helps me to get a better view of he big picture when I can dump on others,,,,,,,I agree about art saving what little sanity I still have!!!....lol

Deborah Secor
09-30-2005, 05:36 PM
I can sure relate to the aging parents issue. I'm an only child, so there's no one else to blame or expect to help... My mom is 94 and insists on living an hour away from us, though we have offered to have her live with us and remodel a part of out house for her. She lived here for a little bit a few years ago. She hated it!! She moved to a senior apartment, where there's no care provided, and with gas prices near $3 I can only get over there once a week. I figure for now I'd rather have her on her own, which is what she wants, until it becomes medically necessary to have her here. She made it clear that as far as she's concerned she won't be moving again until we either tote her out in a box or she's so mentally incapacitated she won't even know where she is! It's an interesting position to be in, having a mom who'd rather be dead or a vegetable than live with you... Ya just gotta laugh. I think when the sense of humor goes I'll be in some major trouble! I, too, am glad for the place to rant! :D Still laughing...


09-30-2005, 05:49 PM
WEll a sense of humor does help, Deborah. But Debbie, I have to say, I don't envy you. At least my brother and his wife do help out and although we all have our moments, no one resorts to the blame game.
I'm sure it doesn't help to say it, but it sounds like you are doing the best you can so try not to let your sister's attitude bother you. My guess is that is is just frustrated with the situation and you are a good scapegoat. Too bad.
Well, I always say, getting old really sucks...but it does beat the alternative! And having just gone through a few weeks where I seriously wondered whether I would have the opportunity to grow old, I think I will put up with the difficulties. Of course, you may have to remind me of that when I get to be 90! :D
It is tough though. ANd althoug humor helps, when they are so unhappy and in pain it is hard to see.


09-30-2005, 06:26 PM
I feel I need to add here that my caretaking duties aren;t all negative experiences. I could write a book that would keep the reader in stitches......example....I told Daddy onen night thatn we were going to town, drop off my paintings and eat dinner, so he took a bath before retirnig.....The next morning, his sitter herded him into the shower before he had a chance to say he had already taken a shower. (bath time tends to become an issue with some eldrly)...Anyway, after his ordeal he knocked on my bedroom door and asked, "You getting up today?"...I said yes and he replied. "Then act like it!"......lol I woke up laughing in tears!

Deborah Secor
09-30-2005, 06:36 PM
Well, Sandy, I wouldn't make light of physical pain and suffering, of course! I hope you understand that.

I have to chuckle at MY mom, who is healthy and relatively happy, if a bit frustrated now and then. If I didn't keep that perspective I'd become angry or sad, neither of which help me deal with her. When I see the humor I can let it all go. So forgive me if you thought I was laughing at something inappropriate.

The other day Mom told me to go away because she wanted to swear! I spent the first 18 years of my life getting my mouth washed out with soap or apologizing for swearing, now this! (Admittedly, I'm over that problem.) Then she told a story at the dinner table with my son and his sweet, innocent 18 year old girlfriend that contained a four letter functional word. What can ya do? Wash her mouth out with soap? I'd blow up--if I didn't laugh!


09-30-2005, 06:56 PM
Well, Sandy, I wouldn't make light of physical pain and suffering, of course! I hope you understand that.

Oops! The downside of posting like this....I wasn't referring to you at all, Deborah. I meant myself. I absolutely think you have to keep a sense of humor abut all this...and it is true that we could all write books on the crazy things that happen. I just didn't want anyone to think I was making light of it either.
So...I would have to say we are all on the same wavelength here....sorry if you thought I was upset with you!


10-01-2005, 01:40 AM
Kate-your story deeply moved me, how wonderful for Steve that you were all there, and that he was able to find some information about his father.
TJ-Congradulations on your upcoming shows, I'm sure you will do very well with them both.
Sandy-I'm so happy you have good news about your health, it's been a long wait for you, and I'm very grateful that your results look good!!!

Everyone sure seems to have their plate full recently. I am not quite there with the aging/sick parents, but I want to encourage you all to hang in there! I'm sure there are quite a few difficulties and blessings involved, I agree with Deborah and Sandy about keeping your sense of humor, the alternative just seems so grim. It's got to be awfully hard watching loved ones deteriorate before our eyes.

Hope you all have a good weekend.

Deborah Secor
10-01-2005, 07:43 PM
Just had to run in and hold up my copy of The Artist's Magazine! Do you see it? They put a blurb about my article on 'Painting After Dark' on the COVER! I'm so glad... :D <happy dancing>

Marc Hanson is in this article, as are two others I met online, Don Jusko and Arthur Barnes. Not all pastelists, but well represented. I love the look of this article and I'm just pleased pink that they used it!! The sidebar is about how to paint in the dark--and in January I'm going to do a demo of this at the Pastel Society of New Mexico meeting...

Okay, I'm calming down now... :)


K Taylor-Green
10-01-2005, 07:48 PM
Congratulations, Deborah!! Happy dancing with you! Can't wait to get my copy. I love it when I can say I know the writer of the great articles!

10-01-2005, 08:06 PM
Congrats, Deborah. Good for you! YOu can be excited...it's exciting!


10-01-2005, 08:33 PM
Deborah, I feel a jig comin' on!!! CONGRARTULATIONS!!! Now I can brag at the bookstore check out about knowing you....I just love doing that...But seriously, hard earned recognition is worth dancing over!

10-01-2005, 10:13 PM
Funny - and when I say it - they look at me like I've gone bonkers! :D Congratulations, Deborah! I'll keep my eye out for when it hits newstands here.

10-05-2005, 11:33 AM
CONGRATULATIONS, DEBORAH!!!! Worth being excited about. I'll have to look for it too.

10-06-2005, 08:54 PM
Just had to run in and hold up my copy of The Artist's Magazine! Do you see it? They put a blurb about my article on 'Painting After Dark' on the COVER! I'm so glad... :D <happy dancing>

Marc Hanson is in this article, as are two others I met online, Don Jusko and Arthur Barnes. Not all pastelists, but well represented. I love the look of this article and I'm just pleased pink that they used it!! The sidebar is about how to paint in the dark--and in January I'm going to do a demo of this at the Pastel Society of New Mexico meeting...

Okay, I'm calming down now... :)


WHich issue is this? I just got my November one today and it's not in there!
Am I behind or ahead of everybody else? :confused:

Paula Ford
10-06-2005, 10:21 PM
Yippy Deborah!! I'll go out and get a copy tomorrow!!