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Bobbie
02-04-2001, 10:24 AM
Hi, All,
I know there's been a lot of discussion about pastels but can't remember if anyone has mentioned problems w/Senneliers. Sometimes they seem so scratchy and gritty & don't deposit all the color they should. Would the Art Spectrum primer help this? Is it the paper I'm using(Art Spectrum) A wonderful artist here in Denver Metro Area, Terrie Lombardi told us she only uses Art Spectrum & Wallis. She loves her Terry Ludwig pastels. I did try a couple of them and thought they were great. BTW, Terrie is a great artist as well as instructor. Any other Denverites out there?
I am wondering how Art Spectrum are & Great American. Has any one tried these?
Thanks.

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Regards,
Bobbie

Roan
02-04-2001, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by Bobbie:
I know there's been a lot of discussion about pastels but can't remember if anyone has mentioned problems w/Senneliers. Sometimes they seem so scratchy and gritty & don't deposit all the color they should.

Can't help but agree here. I find them very gritty.

Would the Art Spectrum primer help this? Is it the paper I'm using(Art Spectrum) A wonderful artist here in Denver Metro Area, Terrie Lombardi told us she only uses Art Spectrum & Wallis.

You're using Art Spectrum? That already has the primer on it, Bobbie. I've not tried it -- I've two sheets here I just bought but have yet to use them. The surface feels very close to Wallis, which is what I normally use.

I've found that Sennelier grits on Wallis as well and if I use them, it's the dark, dark colors and either in very few places or someplace I don't intend to touch with another brand. None of my other pastels will blend in with Sennelier very well. The grit seems to repel them and I've even seen lines form where I've tried to mix in some Schmincke.

She loves her Terry Ludwig pastels. I did try a couple of them and thought they were great. BTW, Terrie is a great artist as well as instructor. Any other Denverites out there?
I am wondering how Art Spectrum are & Great American. Has any one tried these?

I've got some Ludwigs -- love them too :P I've not tried Art Spectrum or Great American pastels. Next time I place a pastel order, tho, I intend to try out a few AS ones.[/B]



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LDianeJohnson
02-05-2001, 07:02 PM
Hi Bobbie,
Yes, there are a few colors that Senellier tends to have more hardness. This is usually due to more binder being used than needed. I don't know which colors you're having trouble with, but I find the very dark greens have the biggest chronic problem.
Diane

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sandge
02-05-2001, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by Roan:

You're using Art Spectrum? That already has the primer on it, Bobbie.


Roan, I believe you can buy the stuff that goes on the surface of Artspectrum papers in pots, too. So you can paint it on to a surface of your choice.

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Roan
02-05-2001, 10:43 PM
Sandra:

Yup yup, have three right here :P From what I understood of Bobbie's post, she said she was already using Art Spectrum paper and then asked about the Art Spectrum primer.

Hey, Bobbie, correct me if I misunderstood, please.

Anyhow, I don't like the primer in the jars too much. It's probably me. What is everyone else applying it with and how many coats are you using?

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<FONT face="Script MT Bold"><FONT COLOR="#AB4835"><FONT size="5">Roan</FONT s></FONT c></FONT f>
<FONT COLOR="#8A1010">Nan danadh mo lmh mar a dh'iarradh mo shil!</FONT c>
-- <FONT size="1">If my hand could do as my eye would desire!</FONT s>
RoanStudio.com (http://RoanStudio.com) &lt;-- pastel open stock vendor sources & reviews!