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Kathryn Wilson
08-29-2005, 08:14 AM
:wave: Good Monday Morning Everybody -

Kate's father-in-law passed away this past week and she needed someone to fill in on the Scumble this week - so here I am. Most of you know that this is where we discuss our daily lives - families, work, pets, children, home and hearth problems.

This morning the weather is upper most in my mind today - I hope and pray there are many large and small miracles in New Orleans this morning. I've been through some pretty bad hurricanes, but Katrina is hitting a city today that has feared a direct hit for many years.

My thoughts and prayers are with Kate's family this day - and thinking about our members who are struggling with health issues - small and large miracles there too.

Not much going on in our household lately - finishing up re-doing our bathroom, working hard at the antique mall, and I'm hoping to finish up my Bryce Canyon painting this week.

I am off to work today, so hope to see lots of wonderful messages when I get back. :)

Piper Ballou
08-29-2005, 10:58 AM
Good morning. I was so busy last week I did not post in the scumble, I did finally go through and read last week's scumble last night.
It is hot and dry here in Arizona and hard to imagine the weather in the south, but our TV has been turned the news all yesterday and will be today.
Sending lots of prayers and hope to those in Katrina's path.
Kate, Our thoughts and prayers are with you also, I am sorry to hear about your father-in-law.

My class at school is getting into a routine, I started this year with only 1 new student, the rest are held overs from last year. Already have had some suspensions, a probation officier visiting my room and one student that is in jail. Interesting start for us, I have hope with the routine in my room and that the kids feel safe with start to change and everyone with settle down more.

Have a good week.

08-29-2005, 11:18 AM
I'm watching the hurricane on the tv and hoping and praying that all those in this monster's path survive and avoid losing everything...right now it looks doubtful on the latter part of that. I can't help but grieve about the countless animals, livestock, etc. left to this storm's mercy, as well. This makes me glad all we have to worry about here is the occassional blizzard!

I'm sending my best wishes to Kate and her family and Sandy and everyone else here who is battling one thing and another...sometimes life sure does seem like struggle!

08-29-2005, 11:30 AM
Kate - I'm sorry to hear about your father in law. I am sending a hug across the miles to you and your family. Do take care.

The hurricane seems so hard to imagine. We are so landlocked here and while seeing some of the destruction of Hurricane Juan in Halifax last sumemr (and that was a ywear after it hit), I can only imagine what it will look like there. I am trying to picture Alan Flattmann's paintings of that gorgeous French Quarter and transforming themin my head to picture them after a hurricane hit. It's impossible to imagine.

This weekend was really nice. Saturday, we had our VPON WDE paintout and had so much fun. Then Cam and I cleaned our house (which it desperately needed). My parents came down on Sunday and brought us a deep freeze (combined b-day/xmas gifts for Cam and I) and we all went shopping and for lunch - then got a cake to celebrate cam's birthday a week early with them.

This week is going to be pretty busy. Cam's mom is in town for the day on Thursday, so we will be having dinner with her and then we are gouing camping in Jasper starting Friday night (so we have to find time to for preparations). And I am itching to paint so I will be finding some easel time too :)

Hope everyone's week is filled with sunshine and light!

Bill Foehringer
08-29-2005, 11:38 AM
Hello all! Today is bright and sunny. I'll be able to go out at lunch but have to do some banking instead of painting. Weekend was beautiful here. Daughter is getting into the school groove, it's so nice when they're older and don't need or want as much help with the routine stuff. Next year daughter will be 16, yikes! Time to drive and time to get a part-time job to help pay for it. I'm in the insurance business as my 'day job' so I know how atrocious the young driver premiums can be.

08-29-2005, 01:54 PM
Kate-I'm so sorry to hear about your Father-in-Law, you and your husband are in my thoughts and prayers.

So is everyone in Katrina's path, I've been checking the progress on T.V. every hour or two since I woke up this a.m.

Of course Sandy, you will continue to be in my prayers.

There is a lot going on for sure! Hang in there everyone.

As for me, I'll be working at home on a parent library project for the school I used to work at, and have a meeting this afternoon with the director to go over progress. There is not much else going on this week, hopefully I'll get in a few mornings of painting. We are still waiting for our house to sell, we had a couple more lookers this weekend and will be meeting with the realtor to talk about whether or not we should lower the price again or not.

Take care and have a good day!

08-29-2005, 02:57 PM
Kate, I am so sorry about your father in law!

SOunds like everyone is getting back into the school gig this week. I knw grandson wil be starting on Wednesday...I think this is the first time they have gone back before Labor Day but the holiday is late and they end up missing snow days and going so late in June I guess they decided not to mess with it. He says he is ready...he seems to like school, which is nice. He starts 4th grade....I can hardly believe it.

My sister in law just emailed and said my niece is starting IV steroids so it sounds like they are kind of assuming she has MS. I know they will not officially diagnose it as such with just one eposide but I also know the sooner they start treating it the better.

My mother is still in the hospital being monitored but as far as I know nothing new has happened. I think she is feeling alright and able to speak fine...as fine as she waas before anyhow, which was sometimes slightly slurry and an occasional "word loss" but generally okay. SHe usually is able to make herself understood quite well.

WE are planning on going down to Mass. on Wednesday morning and hubby will stop in at his office for a bit and then we will go into Boston to the doctor appointment at 2pm. AS it gets closer I get antsier....but I do have periods I am able to putter and get a few things done. My grandson was here with me yesteray and we started a big puzzle...I worked on it a bit more today. Plus I have been reading some junky book...anything for a distraction. The cough comes and goes but I can't say in the scheme of things I feel awful or anything. I don't. I'm mostly just stressed...I wonder why?!?!

Let's hope this week goes better for everyone and that is ends on a positive note. I hope anyone who is in the hurrican's path stays safe and sound.


Pat Isaac
08-29-2005, 03:10 PM
Thoughts are with you Kate as well as with everyone who is in Katrina's path. I'll be thinking of you on Wednesday, Sandy. I'll be out of town until next week so take care and hope the news will be good for all.


Kathryn Day
08-29-2005, 04:21 PM
My thoughts are with you and your husband Kate. Hope everyone has a good week. Ask lots of questions at your appointment Sandy.

08-29-2005, 04:51 PM
I'm so sorry for your and your husband's loss, Kate; even if expected the death of a loved one wrenches our heart and leaves a void. Prayers, and thoughts are with you.

Katrina simply boggles my mind. Thank Heavens there was time to evacuate entire cities, but what devastation and loss the people will return to.

Sandy, Keep on keeping on hanging in there. You know all our prayers and thoughts will be with you especially on Weds. Whatever the outcome we will be with you.

It seems on this board and art cafe there is an inordinate spate of heavy hearts. Keep faith. I have to believe all things come in cycles and better times will return.

My own life is running smoothly right now, which is a rejoicable novelty after a number of years of running life's rapids. I do keep my ear cocked for the roar of another rapid around the bend, however. Art is such a compelling force for me right now and is also a very steadying force. I am busy cutting mats and putting paintings into frames a freiend gave me, as well as having ordered some other frames. I'll have work in the Associations's September gallery show--not judged, as well as in a County Fair which is judged, then into our November judged show. It's been hard to decide which pieces to put with which show. Our show has small cash prizes, the county fair just gives ribbons. Either way I get exposure and have fun.

I do pray this week has some rainbows for folk--and sunshine to ease the spirit.

Kathryn Wilson
08-29-2005, 07:46 PM
Well, my day didn't go any better - I arrived at the antique mall to find we had been robbed during the night. The front door and side panels were smashed, but the only thing gone was the cash register (and the minimal money that was in it). Thank goodness we have a speedy security system and a huge alarm that probably scared the bejeebers out of them and they left everything else alone.

Have been feeling antsy all day with a sense of impending doom. Not sure why - just a feeling in my gut that something horrible is about to happen. Stay tuned.

08-29-2005, 08:05 PM
Geez Kat, that's lousy. I'm glad nothing else was taken...and especially glad no one was hurt. But who needs it...and now they have to repair the damage the jerks did.


Kathryn Wilson
08-29-2005, 10:35 PM
Ya know, I had this feeling last night that I should take my dog to work with me - it might become a real possibility.

My thoughts are with Carly and Paula tonight - they are now the next to feel the effects of Hurricane Katrina. It looked like Atlanta was experiencing tornados and Paula will be getting some heavy rain and wind.

08-30-2005, 12:20 AM
Kate, my deepest sympathy on the death of your father-in-law.

Best of luck to everyone in Katrina's path. It's looking pretty grim on the news tonight, but I guess it will be less severe now as it travels northward. I hope so, anyway.

Kyle, I hope your feeling of foreboding turns out to be just jitters. Being robbed is enough to give you a case. I know it can be a very disturbing experience. By all means have your dog at work with you if they'll let you. A friend of mine who owned a frame shop used to bring his dog in every day, and the customers loved her.

Sandy, my thoughts are with you as you wait. I'm glad your mother is holding her own, and I hope if your niece does have MS it will be a manageable type.

Well, compared to some of you, my week has been great. Bathroom renovation almost over. Sink and toilet working today. Tomorrow the shower. Hooray! The only thing is I'm going crazy not painting. I can't believe it's the last week of August. My daughter goes back to university on Friday. This is positively the last household project I take on this year. (The money's all gone anyway. :D )

08-30-2005, 11:56 AM
I can hardly believe that it is already the end of the month! August has gone by so quickly.

I thought I'd pop in here and let you all know that we are having a critter night paintout tonight over on VPON. Sooz is hosting and we will spend a couple of hours painting our favorite critters. If anyone is interested in joining us (you only need yahoo messenger to participate...if you have a webcam then we can watch you paint too, but you don't need one to view the webcams we do have).

If you haven't joined us yet, feel free to click the VPON icon in my sig line and join up! It's alot of fun!

K Taylor-Green
08-30-2005, 12:01 PM
Hi all! Just dropping in between family duties.
Thanks, Kat, for stepping in here. :angel: It made one less thing to worry about.
And thanks to all of you, for the support and sympathy. Jess and I really appreciate it. It's great to have so many friends reaching out with caring.

When I asked Kat for help with the Scumble, I thought the service would be on Monday, as he passed away this past Friday. But because of family in Nebraska,
services will be tomorrow morning, with calling hours this evening. Back to Chillicothe we go for another overnight stay.
My father-in-law was a very loved man, and will be greatly missed.

I have been trying to keep track of what is going on with Katrina. We have friends in New Orleans, and no way of finding out how they are faring!!
It is raining here, as I guess it is all over. I just hope we don't get the violent weather that has been forcast. The next couple of days are going to be stressful enough, without having to deal with that too.

Sandy, I am sorry to hear about your mom. I hope she is doing better, and yourself as well! So much to have to deal with. Take care.

To anyone having a safe and healthy week, enjoy it!!

Kathryn Wilson
08-30-2005, 07:28 PM
I've been watching the unfolding horror in New Orleans - it just is unfathomable the misery these people will be going through in the next weeks and months. It will be years and years before anything approaching normal, if even that is possible. The few times we have had a disaster here during the summer months they were just intolerable in the heat and humidity, lack of water, ways to keep food cold, and the look of devastation of everyone's faces around you.

Wish we had some good news! I just sent my hubby out for gas before the gas prices jump again!

Gotta paint tomorrow to keep my mind off these things -

08-30-2005, 10:46 PM
I'm watching the news coverage, too. It's almost unbelievable that a city can be devastated so completely by an act of nature. I see that Duane Keiser is donating the proceeds from today's painting to the Red Cross for aid to New Orleans. Here's the link. http://www.duanekeiser.blogspot.com

Sandy, best of luck with your visit to the specialist tomorrow.

Kathryn Wilson
08-31-2005, 12:04 PM
Well, that sense of dread I was feeling on Tuesday was a mother's gut feeling something was wrong - my son was in an 8-car pile-up on the freeway - car is totaled, he is okay. What is there about a mother's instinctive feeling - anyone else get heebee jeebies and then find out it came true?

Thinking about Sandy today -

08-31-2005, 04:03 PM
Oh Kat, I'm so grateful for you that your son is OK, what a frightening experience for him and you. Yes, I think Mother's have a finer tuned intuition system. It happened with my Mom and me all the time. Because I was frequently a care taker for her, the intuition went both ways. At least this time, the prayers we offer up will be ones of thanks and not suppliction.

Pat Isaac
08-31-2005, 04:20 PM
So happy to hear that your son is okay. Scary situation. That happens to me at times and I'm always so glad when I'm wrong.


08-31-2005, 04:25 PM
I decided admidst all the heavy hearted news to share my simple walk this morning on the river. Although the thunderheads pile up in the afternoon and the air is humid the rains of the summer season have slacked off and the ground has begun to dry out and river to return to its polite meandering ways. Foxy has missed going there; it is her favorite place in all the world. Because it has run high and swift I have kept her from it so she has missed her swims there. She was full of puppy like delight as we turned onto the river pathway and all but giggled as I unleashed her to let her dive into the one pool. A little further on I was glad she was on leash as she got caught in a fast moving current briefly. She would have been OK as it emptied into another quiet pool but still---. I have lived on this river for 12 years and for the last two have paid special attention to its changing cycles so was eagar to see the effects of the floods. I'm not sure floods are correct as what mostly happens is the waters just fill the original broad channel to some depth. Whenever I enter the cottonwood's and willow's shade I always feel I've entered some secrete garden. Today that was especially true Only the bird calls and the gurgle of the river broke the stillness. Wildflowers bloomed thickly, the grasses untrammeled having had a respite from human feet. There were ripples in the sand, changes in the river's contours. little spots of soggy quicksand and others where drying mud made interesting curls. Everywhere were stacked treelimbs 12 to 15 feet braced against standing trees to form fences and dams. This is heavily trafficked route for illeagal emigrants from Mexico, so I was hoping the flood waters would have swept away the trash, but atop every "dam" was a caught pile of shiny water bottles. For more than a year a pair of trousers and a shirt have stayed draped on a branch hanging over the river. I was surprised to see it still there, a bit more tattered, while further downstream a beaver's dam was washed away. Beavers have recently been released on the river hoping to restore some of the historical ecosystem. This one is young, alone and inexperienced so hadn't built well. I hope he rebuilds. Before 1887 when a major earthquake forever changed water tables, this was a navigable river filled with beaver. It nourishes one of the five remaining cottonwood willow forrests in Arizona. There are only 20 such forests remaining in our country now.
I love living near this fluctuating trickle of water and my access to this lovely woods where I delight in its small treasures. Sunflowers are blooming, datura wave their white trumpets, wild morning glory twines in the grasses. It's my sanity in this crazy world. I thought to share some of it with you amid all this heartbreak.
Peace in this day.

Kathryn Wilson
08-31-2005, 05:49 PM
Thanks Pat and TJ - I needed that virtual hug.

TJ - as you walked along the stream, I walked with you. I could feel my shoulders relax and a sense of calm came over me - whenever I walk along water, I feel the same way. Thanks for the moment of silence and sanity.

Pat Isaac
08-31-2005, 05:59 PM
Thank you, TJ for your wonderful walk and reflections.


K Taylor-Green
08-31-2005, 06:56 PM
The devestation from Katrina continues to prey upon my mind. I cannot imagine the beautiful city of New Orleans that I have known in the past, so destroyed as she is in the present. The horrors will be a long time in forgetting.

Kat, so happy that your son is ok. Just the thought of that kind of accident......
well, he was being looked out for.

TJ, After the few days that I have had, your walk sounds heavenly.

We laid to rest a wonderful man this morning, with full military honors. My father-in-law, Jesse J. Green Jr, was a WWll veteran, fighting in Europe.
The ironic thing is that next month is the annual reunion for his regiment and division. We always attend, and this year, our family is hosting it in Columbus, Ohio. I have worked hard this last year putting this huge gathering together. I guess it will now turn into a last memorial for our dad.
The president of the 314th regiment reunion organization lives with his invalid wife in New Orleans. We are worried sick as there is no way to find out how he is and if he evacuated in time. These people are in their mid 80's. I just pray that he took her to family early. They have children in other states.
I know that this situation is common at this time, and I feel for others feeling this same helpless worry.

08-31-2005, 07:42 PM
Thanks, TJ...your walk sounds wonderful...we all needed that, I think!
Hugs for you and your family, Kate.

My update is not as informative as I would have liked, but on the whole I am feeling a bit more upbeat.
The doctor was really nice, very approachable. Hubby and I both felt very comfortable with him. Unfortunately, the stupid cd they gave me from the hospital up here in Maine didn't work!!!! The poor doctor went all over Mass. General trying different computers and couldn't get it to work.
ANyhow, he looked at the exray, which he says is lousy quality (surprise! it was done at the doctor's office) but says, yes he can see something there. He did not want to read what the radiologist wrote because he did not want to be influenced but basically sounds like he is leaning in the same direction...that it is probablly some old scar tissue or something in the right lung. Apparently there are calicfied bits in it and that means it is has probably been there for a long time. He thinks. But without seeing the CAT scan he can't say for sure. We have a new copy we are sending him plus they are sending him the actual films so he can get a better look at it.
IN any case, he says that he would really like to see an old chest exray to see if this ever showed up before so he can compare it. SO I will try my hospital at home tomorrow and see if there is anything. Frankly, I cannot remember when I have had a chest exray.
He says if it is something old and he is absolutely sure there is nothing else going on then that is obviously good..and maybe we would just do a CAT scan again in 3 months to make sure it looks the same. If there is any question then we will do a needle biopsy and then no matter what, very likely it would be a good idea to have it removed. He says I am healthy now and my lungs have good capacity and I would not miss a little chunk of my lung. And he says that the arthroscopic methods would not be the best...even though you could do it, it would be better to actually go in and see what is there and be sure to remove it all.
But...we are not there yet.
I do feel less worried. He did not say that he definitely doesn't think it is anything more lethal, but he obviously is thinking it is less serious. He thinks it is very likely this is something that has been there for years and co-incidentally I had a pulmonary infection which caused the cough and tiredness. But we'll have to see.
That's it for now...sorry I don't know more. It will probably be the middle of next week before he has everything and we hear from him.
So....here I am. I guess I am doing the final outdoor art show on Friday. And then we will pack it up and go back to Mass...and come up on the weekends, rather than me staying up till COlumbus Day since I will have to probably go in for more tests and stuff.
Whew...sorry to be so long winded but that's the scoop.



08-31-2005, 09:23 PM
Oh my....Kate, Sandy, and Kat....
my heart goes out to you all for having to endure such times as these.
May your heavy dark skies turn to breezy blue warmth and relief.

09-01-2005, 01:18 AM
Sandy-well I'm sure glad your Doc was nice and feels optomistic, and glad you are feeling more at ease too. I hope everything continues on that vein as you wait for the further results. Waiting is certainly hard and I will continue to pray for your situation.

Kat-Glad to hear your son is o.k., my husband get "feelings" before something bad happens often. He has been wrong a few times, but for the most part when he gets a feeling, something does happen.

Kate-Your Father-in-Law sounds like he lived an admirable life. I hope your friends in New Oreleans are o.k.

What a tradgedy from this hurricaine, It's hard to imagine a whole city being evacuated and it sounds as though it will be virtually unlivable for quite a few weeks, if not months. But, my prayers are for all those poor people who couldn't get out of the way and may have died, trapped in their homes or apartments. The families must be worried sick. I wish their was more I could do to help, but I realize I'd just be in the way, thanks Agnes for posting the website for donations to the Red Cross. I feel quite selfish, I've been having a bit of a pity party for myself lately, and then something like this happens, and I realize how truly blessed I am, and how often I take for granted everything, like clean drinking water, being able to lie down in a comfortable bed at night, feeling safe and secure.

09-01-2005, 02:14 AM
Sandy, it's sounding much more optimistic for you. Although there will be niggles your mind must feel more eased--at least I hope so for you. Painting IS the thing for you now. I have a friend who is battling metastizized cancer. She says that every painting she does is a prayer, a prayer of thanks for what she has had, a prayer asking to just to be able to keep painting. I like that thought. The Native American's have a similar attitude to their art.

Kate, I know well the poignancy and sadness, mixed with celebration of life that is yours and your family's right now and please know that I am holding you in my heart as you go through this goodbye. I pray your elderly friend and his wife made it out before the storm hit. I imagine before this is over there will be only a few in our country that is not personally touched by this tragedy.

Folks, I am genuinely touched and pleased that my little meditation on my walk was helpful, as I meant for it to be. When all seems crazy and senseless we need a small bright spot we can recognize as sane. It sometimes bouys up hope.

Peace to all your hearts.

09-01-2005, 03:21 AM
Sandy, I think we can cautiously call that good news you got from your doctor. After all you've been through, imagining the worst, old scar tissue and an infection don't sound too bad. It must be frustrating to have the tests you took be so useless, but that's technology, isn't it? We once had all the doctors and nurses on a hospital floor squinting at a faxed copy of an ultrasound to see if a number read "1" or "4" because there were horizontal lines all through the printout. Faxes are great, but you have to be able to read 'em.

Kate, TJ said it all about what you're dealing with. It's very uplifting to know that our loved ones lived a full and wonderful life, but that is just what makes it so hard to part with them. I hope your friends in New Orleans made it out.

Kat, I'm glad your son is okay, and you can relax now. I don't seem to get these feelings of foreboding, at least not accurate ones. Most of the calamities in my life have struck out of a clear blue sky, without my suspecting a thing. On the other hand, once I was going to New York and I had a strong foreboding that I wouldn't be coming back (not because I would be having too much fun and decide not to return, but because something bad would happen to me), but it turned out there was nothing to it, so I don't place any importance on such feelings anymore. I know it's not the same for everybody. Some people have really finely honed instincts, especially around their children and other close family. I think I prefer not knowing, except in cases where something can be done to prevent the tragedy. I wonder how many people in New Orleans had a bad feeling about that hurricane?

Kathryn Wilson
09-01-2005, 07:39 AM
Sandy, at least the little bit of information has eased your mind somewhat - I think doctors tend to err on the side of caution these days, so this does sound optomistic.

Thanks for all your good thoughts for my son - it really was an extraordinary feeling, but I've had them before - just not that strong. I was actually in tears, my chest and throat hurt in anxiety - a really bad feeling - and it occurred at the time it was happening without my knowing.

My sorrow for the victims in New Orleans and Mississippi has now turned to anger - I guess hindsight at it's best - but why did they let this situation go on for decades without more preparation and thought into what would happen if a hurricane hit. No communication, no plan to fix a levy if it breaks, no evacuation plan for people who had no way to get out - it seems a lot of things went lacking by officials. They are spending an untold amount of time and money on rescue when those people could have been herded onto buses and gotten out of the city beforehand. They had plenty of time - just no thought for people who were sick, the elderly - just what were they thinking?

I deal with this every time a hurricane heads to Florida - my mom is stubborn and cannot phathom how bad it can get - so she will not go to a shelter or leave town. In a way, I hope she has been watching this on TV so that she will get a clue.

Gee, this has been a gloomy week - I promise to find something more cheerful and positive to talk about when I get back from work tonight - :)

09-01-2005, 08:09 AM
Yikes....I missed that about your son, Kat....I know exactly about that feeling myself...I am so glad he is alright. That must have been so scary for him and for you. Whew!


09-01-2005, 07:50 PM
Sandy, your news sound much more hopeful. From what I understand, bad masses don't have calcified bits in them as a rule, so sounds quite upbeat to me. I know you'll be happier when you hear the doc's final word on it, tho. Try to enjoy your art show and so on...and I don't envy you that move back south again! :D