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Becky-Bob
08-18-2005, 10:22 PM
Browsing the acrylics forum I find a wonderful WIP presented by Nitsa. And here is the link: http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=288896

I told her that I haven't done glass well for ages because I've forgotten how to do glass....and my Mucho Grande Tipple will attest to that! So, she said, join in....and I decided to...but of course it will be watercolor, and it will be here. Here's my start.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Aug-2005/4536-P8170051.JPG

Its not an exact copy of the picture that was used, but that's me. I wish I knew how to attach pictures, that would be easier. I've gotten above half-way through this. I'll post the rest as single posts, I guess.

Becky-Bob
08-18-2005, 10:26 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Aug-2005/4536-P8170052.JPG

Becky-Bob
08-18-2005, 10:27 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Aug-2005/4536-P8170053.JPG

Becky-Bob
08-18-2005, 10:29 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Aug-2005/4536-P8170054.JPG

Now, I have part of the martini glass masked off, but I'm stumped about background...and I know, yes, I know, I KNOW!! LOL I was thinking just white...but....achhhh!

And I have part of the stem masked off part of the foot, or whatever you call that...and parts of the rose. Can't decide what color I want it, as you can see...thinking I'm going with yellow, not sure.

Cattleprod Karl
08-19-2005, 12:10 AM
Geez, if that's what it looks like not knowing how to paint glass, then sign me up! Fantastic job.

As for the background - allow me to be so bold as to suggest? - what about an orange'ish terra-cotta kinda coloration? Might go well with the leaves in front of them. I dunno. Looks great in the white. ha.

Becky-Bob
08-19-2005, 12:24 AM
Well, thank you Cattleprod Karl....ouch! LOL What inspired you to come up with that name? I thank you for your input, and I think that that actually might work...but, I'm not sure. I'd like to give it to my sister on her birthday on sunday....and I'm just not sure. I'm wondering about a cherry wood table....but, I want somebody else to do it. Want to volunteer? LOL I'm scared!

I apologize. I placed this in the wrong forum. It should have gone in the Watercolor Studio Forum. Could somebody move it please. I've asked clicking on that little thing up there, but have had no reponse so far. Thanks much! ;)

Yorky
08-19-2005, 02:48 AM
I moved it, Becky.

This is coming along great, the glass reflections are well done, but take a look at the top of the glass, the left side doesn't look balanced with the right side, it seems further out. Maybe it's the masking fluid doing it, but it will be an easy fix at this stage before the background goes in.

The leaves are excellent!

Doug

laudesan
08-19-2005, 03:05 AM
Becky this is coming along nicely. I do really like the reflections of the stem of the rose in the stem of the glass..

The glass look terrific.. The rose leaves look really good too..

I do think you could work on the rose bloom more tho' add more colour to the centre.. Have you converted your paintign and your ref pic to greyscale and compared them??

As for the background, well why don't you try out some colours on photoshop, or what ever photoediting program you use.

This paianting is going to be a winner wwhen finished.

Did you try uploading your pics using the mountain/yellow sky icon in the reply window.

Strangly your pics don't say attached, but theya re not showing up in the reply window either????

Nitsa
08-19-2005, 04:59 AM
I can see it in the reply window fine! :confused:

Thanx for PM-ing me Becky.

Your leaves are looking amazing! Rose is coming along nicely too, I found the right side much warmer than the left.
You are off to a great start with your glass but before you go any further just check your proportions....The flute looks unbalanced and I think a small fix in the stem top will remedy, also the base looks a little small a little rounding off should rectify that though.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Aug-2005/18769-becky_s.JPG

Re: background, remember, what ever colour you choose will alter the shades in the glass, all of your values will take on new hues, so long as you stay with your 3 tones of which ever colour you select you should be fine.
Be careful of a terracotta background, you will lose your orange highlights in the glass stem. ;)

laudesan
08-19-2005, 05:08 AM
Well it must be those wc gremlins, because those pics did not show up for me in the reply window before. Very strange indeed.......:confused:

They do now tho'..;)




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stephie20
08-19-2005, 05:13 AM
Nitsa....this is coming along lovely.......your glass is spot on, must agree about it being a little off though....I would stick to something soft in the Bg, something washy.......played around a litlle...hope you don't mind.......

JJ.......shows up for me as well....

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Aug-2005/36255-4536-P81700541.jpg

laudesan
08-19-2005, 05:24 AM
JJ.......shows up for me as well....

Read my post above..;)


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stephie20
08-19-2005, 05:30 AM
:) JJ........must learn to slow down when reading...

Becky-Bob
08-19-2005, 08:25 AM
Thank you all for your input. I LOVE the blue....that made a beautiful change. I would put some of that blue in that clear triangle area of the martini glass, right?

Ummmm...Steph, I'm not Nitsa, this is a challenge that Nitsa very kindly made because I said I just can't do glass anymore. :)

I just thank you all for your suggestions. I haven't finished the rose yet, haven't decided, but think I'm going yellow. I'll finish that today, and do the background.

Nitsa thanks for looking. You've got such a good eye for prospective...me, not so much. LOL So I truly appreciate you looking.

JJ, thanks for reminding me of those things!! Why do I always forget to go greyscale....too excited I think to get things moving along. I WILL do that now. Thanks!

All of you, I just appreciate your C & C so much. :)

Uschi
08-19-2005, 08:31 AM
Coming along beautifully Becky, lots of good advice above. I hope the masking on the rose won't give you grief when you take it off (sharp edges), I personally find it easier not to mask.
Will be watching!
Uschi

Becky-Bob
08-19-2005, 10:15 AM
I think I fixed the foot, and the right side of the bowl. I'm working on the rose right now...and not pleased with myself. And contemplating the blue. A light colbalt blue, do you think? http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Aug-2005/4536-P8180055.JPG

Suggestions on the rose? Thanks!

olika
08-19-2005, 10:34 AM
I think a light cobalt or ultramarine would look nice. As far as the rose goes, I think as you add more detail and range of tones you will like it better. Nicely done so far! :D :D

Becky-Bob
08-19-2005, 12:45 PM
Slowly coming together here. I find myself at such a loss to know how to continue with this rose. I just don't know. http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Aug-2005/4536-P8180056.JPG

The background is colbalt blue, so this somewhat green blue that shows is just a touch off...no green looking to it.

olika
08-19-2005, 01:06 PM
Are you using a reference photo? If so, can you post it here?

CharM
08-19-2005, 01:26 PM
Hi Becky... you've tackled two difficult subjects in one composition!!! Good for you... Your glass really looks good and those rose leaves are perfect... both in colour and shape...

As Gerri mentioned, perhaps you could post your ref image so we can help with your rose... it, too, is looking good though...

Becky-Bob
08-19-2005, 01:32 PM
Here we go....though I'm not much for following after a reference picture after I have the drawing done...but, I certainly could use some help.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/RefLib/showphoto.php?photo=47470&cat=500&ppuser=9169Whoops, let me post the actual reference. Well, that didn't work...just got the thumbprint. http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Aug-2005/4536-9169matiniandrosie01.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Aug-2005/4536-glass_and_rose.JPG
And as you can see, I tend to add and subtract a lot.

laudesan
08-20-2005, 03:46 AM
Becky this is coming along beautifully.

If you look at the base of the glass i the ref pic, and the base of the glass in your painting, you will see yours still needs to be a bit bigger and flatter on the table..

The rest looks very good..:)

Becky-Bob
08-20-2005, 10:48 AM
Thanks for that tip JJ....yes, I noticed that yesterday, just hadn't posted the final here. http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Aug-2005/4536-P8190060.JPG

And I'm done. Thank you all for your input....invaluable! :)

laudesan
08-20-2005, 10:15 PM
Just lovely Becky!!!

Nitsa
08-21-2005, 11:19 AM
Becky you have done sooo well! :clap:

Just one small thing that I can see ...The white in the centre of your glass bowl should be background colour, if you re-check the ref image the highlight is on the left the centre takes on the background colour. This will make your highlight POP! ;)

Becky-Bob
08-21-2005, 08:48 PM
Hey! Thanks. :) You know, I was thinking that myself, and yet I didn't do it. I've now as I said....well, had it framed, matted and gave it to my sister for her birthday today. She's in love with it, so we'll keep it our little secret. And, my other sister gave me a commission! So, I'm hyped....family members giving me commissions. :clap: I never thought I would see the day! :) :)

Thank you for inviting me on that challenge. It really helped me, I think (we'll see :rolleyes: ) to gain some prospective on painting glass. And I'm anxious to do some more.

Many thanks to all for your help!

Nitsa
08-22-2005, 07:34 AM
My lips are sealed Becky! ;)
CONGRATULATIONS on the commission!!! :clap:

Becky-Bob
08-22-2005, 10:51 AM
Thank you! I would LOVE to do a challenge with you again sometime. It was lots of fun, and I see now how motivating they can be. :)

Nitsa
08-22-2005, 11:00 AM
Anytime Becky! ;)
I'm over on the acrylics forum painting another glass piece right now actually...a bottle and glass this time with some demon checked fabric. :evil: LOL!
You are most welcome to join me! :)

Becky-Bob
08-22-2005, 11:39 AM
Well....I shall check it out! Thanks Nitsa! :) :)