View Full Version : An angel watches over me

03-30-2005, 03:24 AM
No need to tell you where I got this from, although the likeness isn't quite right. Leonardo's glazes seem to have gone to pot, so who knows what the original colours were.



03-30-2005, 04:37 AM
Oh Mikey, So far I am truly amazed! Anxious to follow you on this interesting journey! :wave:

03-30-2005, 08:29 AM
Hi Mikey....this is looking so lovely...the hair has a real dimensionality to it....and your features just keep getting stronger and stronger...looks to me as if you're getting quite the master at it.... :D
cheers kim

03-30-2005, 08:35 AM
Hi Mikey,
I can feel the "Époque" in this painting already.
Leonardo's glazes seem to have gone to pot, so who knows what the original colours were.
Not sure what you mean :confused:

Anita Murphy
03-30-2005, 08:47 AM
as usual another wonderful painting unfolding.

03-30-2005, 12:26 PM
Off you went to a good start !

03-30-2005, 03:10 PM
Thanks Lisa, I'm amazed myself. It seems I have to go through those periods of struggle, which are part of learning, then move on again.

Kim, I have known for a long time that what happens in the shadows is more important than the highlights as regards tonal painting. I am now appreciating that more and more. Bougie has taught me about doing the turns and how the shape of them affects the structure.

Hi Linda, I've checked the UK National Gallery photo since they have the original painting. It is still very much monochromatic in the flesh tones with brown and yellows. The gold lining of the Madonna's cloak seems to be quite intense, although I wouldn't know if it has been restored. But historically I'm looking for red under the blue and that would have been symbolically important to the Renaissance painters. This causes me to think that Leonardo used a fugitive Carmine or crimson for glazing.

I am tempted to leave this one as monochrome, but it would be interesting to think what Leonardo's original colours might have been. The Azurite (replaced by Manganese or Prussian Blues) and Ultramarine seem to be holding up quite well. Maybe the National Gallery would help me. It's of historical interest at least.

Thanks KA, although I'm not sure where to take this one.

Hi Gilberte, thanks for your encouragement. Let's see what I can make of it.

BTW, you'll appreciate that this is a poor flash photo.


04-02-2005, 03:59 AM
I preferred it as it was. Leonardo's colours are getting me a bit perplexed, since I want to see actual flesh colours. I'll add some more contrast and try to improve the face. I'm not particularly interested in his method as far as this painting goes since it will not be the way I intend to go.



04-02-2005, 05:52 AM
That left eye (the angels) is still wrong and it way off Leonardo, but personally I'm not too displeased with it, although in some ways I prefer the first stage you see here.


04-02-2005, 06:22 AM
Hi Mikey....this is really looking good ......the lighting on the face is glowing....I like the detail in her hair...very effective...
cheers kim

04-02-2005, 11:06 AM
Thanks Kim. I'm not sure I can do anything more to the face now.


04-02-2005, 01:28 PM
Could it be the difference of the two eyelids that disturb me instead of the left eye itself ? :wink2:

04-02-2005, 03:37 PM
Hi Gilberte, thanks for mentioning it. Coming to think of it both eyes are wrong. I was using size 10 and 14 filberts brushes with worn out points. My small rounds are splayed out.